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Three ex-army officers detained after Faiz - What's the matter? - Hassan Ayub's Big Revelations
"Imran Khan Ko Govt Say Kisi Court Ya Army Nay Nahi Balky...", Haider Naqvi
Public react to slow internet | Khawar Ghumman's Shocking Analysis
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Transcript
00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the program.
00:14Ladies and gentlemen, today in the program we are going to discuss a topic.
00:18It is a topic with which every Pakistani is somehow connected.
00:25The latest figures show that Pakistan has a population of 25 crore.
00:30The official statistics show that there are around 18 to 20 crore telephones in Pakistan.
00:36Around 12 crore smartphones are used by the people.
00:40This is an issue of the internet. We will talk in detail about this in the second part of the program.
00:44What problems are we facing? Why is the internet slow?
00:47What kind of businesses are being affected?
00:51What are the complaints of the small businessmen who run multi-million dollar businesses in Pakistan?
01:04What are the complaints of the small businessmen who run multi-million dollar businesses in Pakistan?
01:07Let's move on to our first top story.
01:12A few days ago, we received an official statement from the ISPR.
01:17It is clear that there was a bombshell.
01:20Former DGIS, General Faiz Umeed, former court commander Prashawar, was also there.
01:26Court-martial proceedings have been started against him.
01:29In 2017, there is a housing society.
01:31It was a matter of taking money from there.
01:33He used his official Asro-Hrasook.
01:36After that, he retires.
01:39Even after retirement, he remained busy in some affairs.
01:44The Army Act has been applied against him.
01:50Today, we have another press release from DGISPR.
01:54Three more officers have been arrested.
01:58Two brigadiers are said to be retired.
02:01One of them is a retired colonel.
02:05More investigations are being carried out.
02:10He is in contact with some political instigators.
02:14It has not been categorized yet.
02:18He is in contact with the Pakistan Muslim League and the Pakistan People's Party.
02:25We will talk about this in our first story.
02:28Over the weekend, you saw the Jashn-e-Azadi events.
02:35It was a weekend.
02:37We did not have a weekend in the media.
02:40General Asim Munir, the Army Chief, was invited.
02:44As per tradition, all his former colleagues,
02:47especially General Raeesh Sharif and General Kiani,
02:52the former Army Chiefs, were also present.
02:55His former course mates and senior officers.
02:58It was a very good gathering.
03:00They received each other in a very good manner.
03:03They had a good conversation.
03:06They were laughing and chatting.
03:09I have been in contact with these institutions for a long time.
03:13When former colleagues meet, they have a long conversation.
03:17From the time of their training, to the time of their PMA,
03:20to their onward career, and now after their retirement.
03:23Most of the people invited to this event are retired officers.
03:30Let's start the story.
03:32This is a big story.
03:35In the history of Pakistan, such a step has not been taken before.
03:39If you look at this development from any angle,
03:43nothing can be better than this.
03:45And what is the work?
03:47It is self-accountability.
03:49An institution is putting its former senior colleague in jail.
03:54He has some acts of omissions and commissions.
03:58He has made some mistakes.
04:00Whatever it is, because he is a witness of the eyes of Pakistan and Pakistan.
04:04He knows that he has done something wrong.
04:07So now he has to answer for it.
04:11This will be a big example, a bright example.
04:16I think in the coming days.
04:18He will be in the past or in the future.
04:25If he has done something wrong,
04:27then he will be accountable for it.
04:30And in the future, he can be put in jail at any time.
04:34This is not a small thing that the current military leadership is going to do.
04:38Hassan.
04:39The three people who were arrested today,
04:42they were all retired.
04:44All three had a very deep relationship with General Retired Faiz Hamid.
04:48One of them is Colonel Shahid.
04:50There are two Brigadiers.
04:52Brigadier Ghaffar and Brigadier Naeem.
04:54Brigadier Ghaffar and Brigadier Naeem are from Chakwal.
04:57And they were considered very close for a long time.
05:00One of them is a cousin of Brigadier Ghaffar.
05:03I am not too sure about their relationship.
05:06But they were very close.
05:07That is, they understood that they were accepted.
05:10And they were very trustworthy.
05:12So the allegation on these three is that
05:14they used to communicate with General Faiz and a political party,
05:17that is, Tariq-e-Insaab.
05:20This has not been said officially yet.
05:21It has not been said officially yet.
05:22But there is news that Colonel Shahid's name has not been officially mentioned.
05:26Neither has Brigadier Ghaffar's name been officially mentioned,
05:29nor has Brigadier Naeem's name been officially mentioned.
05:31So we also have some sources.
05:33The news related to this is available to me.
05:36Apart from this, you will be aware that
05:39Muhammad Akram Sahib, who is the Deputy Superintendent of Jail,
05:42has also been arrested.
05:44Now three more people have been arrested with him,
05:47who were employees of the Jail Khana Jat.
05:52He used to communicate with Bushra Begum from there.
05:56And the message was conveyed to Bushra Begum.
05:59And Bushra Begum was the one who used to convey those messages
06:01when she used to meet Bani Chairman Tariq-e-Insaab.
06:04During the hearings of various cases,
06:06she used to convey those messages.
06:09Along with this, it is important to note that
06:11due to this reason, Bushra Begum filed an application
06:15to shift from Bani Gala to Islamabad High Court.
06:18Then she shifted from Bani Gala to Adyara Jail.
06:22Because there was a check and check on Bani Chairman.
06:26There was no checking on Bushra Begum
06:29like there was on Imran Khan Sahib.
06:31They thought that she was a housewife
06:33and had nothing to do with him.
06:35But in reality, the entire politics was going on
06:38via Bushra Begum.
06:40And all the people you are asking Babar Malik Sahib,
06:42our correspondents who go to jail,
06:44whenever there is a case,
06:46both husband and wife are sitting very close
06:48and they are continuously whispering in each other's ears.
06:51If there is a 6-hour hearing,
06:53then their conversation continues for 6 hours non-stop.
06:56So this was the reason why you are laughing.
06:58But the thing is...
06:59No, no, husband and wife whispering in each other's ears...
07:01No, husband and wife...
07:03I was just asking that question.
07:05I am sorry.
07:26Viewers, when this development came to us,
07:29there was a lot of debate about it.
07:32When Malik Ahmed, the Speaker of the Punjab Assembly,
07:35was asked about it,
07:37what was his reaction to it?
07:39Listen to that.
07:41Whatever is the case of Jal Faiz,
07:43it is more of an institutional matter
07:45rather than of...
07:47If we talk about it in such a way
07:49that it will have a political dimension.
07:51There is a press release on this
07:53of the ISPR, which is very comprehensive.
07:55The financial matters
07:57of the housing society in Islamabad.
08:01We also talked about some of their post-retirement things.
08:04There are a lot of conspiracy theories
08:06about that post-retirement thing.
08:08Everyone is talking about
08:10getting some results
08:12according to their own purpose
08:14and their own desire.
08:19People are trying to get results
08:21according to their own purpose
08:23and their own desire.
08:25Mr. Naqvi, there is no doubt
08:27that if a person
08:29is associated with an institution
08:31or a political party,
08:33if he is a Pakistani,
08:35if he is a citizen of Pakistan
08:37and works against the interests
08:39of the state,
08:41then the law and the constitution
08:43have to act against him.
08:45There is no doubt about it.
08:47I am sorry to say that
08:49I just smiled at Mr. Sargoshi's ears.
08:51I didn't laugh.
08:53It's a very serious issue.
08:55There is no doubt about it.
08:57But an institution is repeatedly
08:59saying that
09:01we have started
09:03field court martial proceedings.
09:05Today, further developments have taken place.
09:07Two more arrests have been made.
09:09Instead of us waiting,
09:11the information minister
09:13has also held
09:15a long press conference.
09:17The Pakistan People's Party
09:19has also held a press conference.
09:21Mr. Sargoshi has given
09:23a judgment that
09:25this will be a death penalty.
09:27If someone has done this,
09:29I am speaking on behalf
09:31of the viewers of this program.
09:33If someone has done
09:35something against the state of Pakistan
09:37and his death penalty
09:39is being imposed,
09:41he should be punished.
09:43He is associated with any institution.
09:45There is no one greater than the state.
09:47Mr. Naqvi.
09:49Whatever is happening in the past,
09:51I speak in the context of the past.
09:53I never make any predictions
09:55about the future.
09:57The thing is that
09:59let's look at General Faiz's case
10:01in the context of the past.
10:03Let's forget that
10:05a soldier is being court-martialed,
10:07a left-wing general is being court-martialed,
10:09and the army is being court-martialed.
10:11Let's see what is happening
10:13and with whom.
10:15Malik Ahmed Khan said that
10:17he wanted to rule this country for 30 years.
10:19He wanted to remain in power
10:21until 2040.
10:23And everything was being implemented
10:25according to that wish.
10:27Then you will see that
10:29Imran Khan left the assembly.
10:31No court, no soldier
10:33finished his government.
10:35Governments are formed and finished
10:37by the assembly.
10:39But what happened after that?
10:41Imran Khan first challenged the European Union.
10:43It had a big impact on our constitution.
10:45Then he challenged the United States.
10:47It had a big impact on our relations.
10:49Then he challenged the IMF.
10:51It had a big impact on the money we were getting.
10:53Then he said that
10:55armies will be divided,
10:57Sri Lanka will be formed,
10:59Pakistan will become a defaulter,
11:01civil war will break out,
11:03people will die.
11:05These were all the wishes of Imran Khan.
11:07And Imran Khan, who was he?
11:09Obviously, when you try to
11:11implement your own selfish thoughts,
11:13you know who is standing behind you.
11:15So these people were standing behind you
11:17who have now been arrested.
11:19They had given support.
11:21This has caused the most severe
11:23damage to Pakistan in the last two and a half years.
11:25We went very far behind in economy.
11:27The biggest thing is that we went very far behind in unity.
11:29The unity in our ranks,
11:31the harmony with each other,
11:33the love to move Pakistan forward,
11:35we went very far behind in that.
11:37And it felt like we had become
11:39enemies of each other.
11:41We are ready to hold each other's necks
11:43and cut each other's throats.
11:45So this crime, obviously,
11:47this crime of the housing society
11:49is not so simple.
11:51This crime is very, very,
11:53very, very dangerous.
11:55It tried to hollow
11:57the roots of Pakistan.
11:59And thank God,
12:01this drama ended.
12:03Viewers,
12:05as far as Pakistan's security is concerned,
12:07no Pakistani can wish for it
12:09and neither should he
12:11nor will he be allowed
12:13to work against the interests of Pakistan.
12:15Obviously,
12:17a proceeding is underway,
12:19an investigation is underway,
12:21an investigation is underway,
12:23and whatever punishment should be imposed
12:25will be met.
12:27Obviously, there are dots connecting.
12:29As you saw,
12:31Hassan Ayub,
12:33according to him,
12:35Mr. Naqvi,
12:37has made a situation
12:39that he has been doing something.
12:41But anyway, this is something which has to be proven.
12:43And if it is proven,
12:45then the punishment should be met.
12:47Let's move on to the next story.
12:49Mr. Chaudhary,
12:51a very interesting debate has begun today.
12:53It is about the former Army Chief,
12:55General Bajwa.
12:57He is your friend.
12:59You don't even talk about him.
13:01But our Taha-e-Ab-Qaid party
13:03seems to be
13:05facing a lot of problems.
13:07As you know, Khawaja Asif
13:09is continuously making statements
13:11that General Bajwa
13:13was very fond of him.
13:15He wanted to get a third extension.
13:17He was hitting me behind my back.
13:19He was sending me messages.
13:21He also gave a reference to General Faiz
13:23that he came to me.
13:25He sat with me.
13:27He called me to his father-in-law's house.
13:29He said,
13:31we will give you the Punjab government
13:33if it is available.
13:35But recently,
13:37the speaker of the National Assembly,
13:39Malik Ahmed,
13:41the Punjab Assembly,
13:43has a very old relationship with General Bajwa.
13:45He admits that
13:47he has a very old relationship
13:49with General Bajwa.
13:51We have been meeting
13:53General Bajwa for a long time.
13:55What did Khawaja say
13:57during another interview last night
13:59about General Bajwa
14:01I think he expected
14:03that I should continue.
14:05We talked for 10-12 days.
14:07I got this indication.
14:09We wanted to get
14:11the first extension.
14:13But he kept on insisting.
14:15He said,
14:17I am dropping Faiz.
14:19You should also drop your choice.
14:21He also contacted my husband.
14:23He said,
14:25I will go to Punjab.
14:27I said,
14:29I used to travel
14:31on helicopter
14:33and go to Army House.
14:35The speaker of the Punjab Assembly,
14:37Malik Ahmed,
14:39is going to reach there.
14:41He will come and give a report
14:43to Shabaz Sharif.
14:45Now he is accusing
14:47one of his colleagues
14:49that he used to go on a helicopter
14:51and Malik Ahmed used to come
14:53with a message.
14:55Shabaz Sharif was the Prime Minister
14:57and he used to give messages.
14:59This was a routine matter.
15:01Today, I think,
15:03the level of patience
15:05has increased.
15:07Malik Ahmed
15:09has given
15:11an answer to Khawaja.
15:13The level of patience
15:15has increased.
15:17Our producer
15:19keeps on correcting me.
15:21Listen to what he is saying.
15:23The dates that Khawaja
15:25is giving in Punjab,
15:27in those days,
15:29General Bajwa
15:31gave a tour of America.
15:33In New York,
15:35General Bajwa
15:37clearly said
15:39that he is not taking any extension.
15:41When I met him,
15:43I asked him,
15:45you have explicitly denied
15:47there.
15:49He said,
15:51I do not want
15:53to talk about this.
15:55I have had my time.
15:57He said, old soldiers fade away.
15:59In National Defense University,
16:01in response to a question,
16:03he frankly said,
16:05there is no extension.
16:07I do not have an eye.
16:09I am not asking for it.
16:11For putting the right perspective,
16:13it is necessary to correct the context.
16:15He says that it is necessary
16:17to correct the context.
16:19He tells three incidents.
16:21General Bajwa said,
16:23I am not interested in extension.
16:25He told about NDU.
16:27He told about America.
16:29He had a personal meeting.
16:31Mr. Chaudhary,
16:33I want to know from you
16:35what is Khawaja Asif's
16:37special love for your friend.
16:39He is also your friend.
16:41We admit that he is my friend.
16:43He repeatedly
16:45brings General Bajwa's name
16:47from somewhere.
16:49He has retired.
16:51He is spending time with his family.
16:53Still, he is not satisfied.
16:55What is the reason?
16:57If you have any information,
16:59please tell us.
17:01Actually,
17:03he does not have anything to sell.
17:05You have put allegations
17:07on the former Prime Minister
17:09for 5-7 minutes.
17:11One day, in front of God,
17:13everyone will be presented.
17:15You will answer from there.
17:17You can come later.
17:19Today, there was a meeting
17:21of Noon League in Lahore.
17:23You do not have any information.
17:25We do not want to give you any information.
17:27Please give us information.
17:29The good thing is that
17:31they are thinking about
17:33the price of electricity.
17:35200, 300, 400, 500 units
17:37should be given relief.
17:39It will be good.
17:41Secondly,
17:43they are making up stories
17:45and making up stories.
17:47You should follow them.
17:49You are excited
17:51and energetic
17:53young people.
17:55We are not old enough
17:57to sit outside
17:59H block
18:01and see what news is coming from inside.
18:03I have just given you a hint
18:05that good news has come
18:07that they are giving some relief.
18:09It is possible that
18:11they will give up to 500 units.
18:13It is good.
18:15Secondly,
18:17you have been destroyed
18:19in the eyes of the people.
18:21You can do whatever you want.
18:23There is no going back.
18:25If you want to accuse someone,
18:27you can do it.
18:29You can catch two helicopters
18:31and hang yourself.
18:33I said the same thing long ago.
18:35But,
18:37if you are after someone,
18:39that is not good.
18:41Mr. Choudhary,
18:43all the accusations
18:45will be investigated.
18:47It was said in the first press release
18:49that they will get a lawyer of their choice.
18:51All the accusations
18:53will be investigated.
18:55Please comment on this.
18:57Mr. Choudhary,
18:59due to the arrest
19:01of General Faiz Hamid,
19:03Bani Chairman Tariq-e-Insaf,
19:05who is currently in jail,
19:07has high blood pressure.
19:09He is suffering
19:11from high blood pressure.
19:13If Mr. Choudhary
19:15does not want to hear
19:17this ...
19:19We have information.
19:21We have informed you
19:23that you are not
19:25a journalist.
19:27You are suffering from
19:29high blood pressure.
19:33He was bullied
19:35by a journalist
19:37He says that whatever the army is doing about General Faiz is a general matter and we have nothing to do with it.
19:42Today he is saying that he was the leader of the nation, not General Faiz.
19:45On one thing, you can see that there is a mental tension.
19:47Have you met him?
19:48Yes, today there was a report.
19:50He has had a conversation with his colleagues.
19:52So when he is talking, that old news too.
19:54When he said that there is nothing to do with it, then this is also old news.
19:57He is talking about the contacts of Afghanistan.
19:59Today he is saying this.
20:01Sir, one minute.
20:02Mr. Nagbir, you also complete it.
20:03Then move ahead.
20:04There are many other stories.
20:05Yes, you also complete it.
20:06Look, whatever I say, I do it on the basis of the statements that are on the record.
20:12I have never accused anyone or quoted anything wrong from anyone.
20:16Pakistan will take Sri Lanka.
20:18This is what Respected Imran Khan said.
20:20Pakistan will default.
20:21This is what Respected Imran Khan said.
20:22Pakistan will be divided.
20:24This is what Respected Imran Khan said.
20:25For the sake of Allah, stop lying and making false statements.
20:29Listen, listen, listen.
20:31What should I listen to?
20:33He said that this can happen.
20:35Do you want to stop him?
20:36He is telling the opposite.
20:38Then what should I listen to?
20:40He is saying the same thing for the third time.
20:41Sir, one minute.
20:42Mr. Nagbir, everything you are saying is in a context.
20:47You know that this has happened.
20:49Sir, what did he say?
20:52Anyway, let's move ahead.
20:53Let's go to the break.
20:54After the break, we will talk about the issues of the internet slowdown in Pakistan.
21:00We will talk about the issues of the internet slowdown in Pakistan.
21:02But before going to the break, let me clarify one thing.
21:05Viewers, the allegations and the investigations that have started,
21:10it is clear that the institution is telling us step by step that these things are happening.
21:14The information that will come from the institution, we will keep sharing with our viewers.
21:19It is clear that the ISPR is formally giving its press release on this.
21:23At least as a journalist, I will keep myself restricted to that.
21:27But like Hassan Ayub has his own information,
21:30like Mr. Nagbir said that these were the people who were proving them wrong.
21:35If this is proven, then definitely whatever punishment is made,
21:38Mr. Chaudhary has his own opinion on this.
21:40Let's go to the break.
21:41After the break, we will meet you again.
21:46Welcome back.
21:47Viewers, today the Standing Committee of the Senate is having a meeting on IT Information Technology.
21:52There, the government center, Senator Afnanullah, accepts that there has been a loss of 500 million.
22:04Let me tell you what has happened in recent days.
22:07The Standing Committee has raised the issue of internet social media apps being down.
22:12Senator Afnanullah is saying that there has been a loss of at least 500 million dollars due to internet slowness.
22:18This is related to the Pakistan Muslim League Noon.
22:21Many e-commerce forums are leaving.
22:27Before that, it is also being said that social media is not being downloaded and uploaded on WhatsApp.
22:33This was also said by Senator Afnan.
22:36Halal has come in the services of mobile operators.
22:40Secretary of IT, who was present there, accepted it.
22:43Business is being affected by internet social media apps being down.
22:49This is related to PTI.
22:51He said there that there is no capital already.
22:54In this way, the entire business will be destroyed.
22:57This is a problem on networks.
23:01It is not on Wi-Fi.
23:02The Secretary of IT said there.
23:05We have not received any complaints about the internet servers.
23:09This is the news given by the PTA officials there.
23:12Mashallah, what is the matter?
23:14They say that they have said something, but no one has come.
23:16People have been laughing for the past few days.
23:20The committee has asked for a report on the damage caused by the slowdown of the internet social media app.
23:25The committee has instructed to solve the problem of internet social media in two weeks.
23:29Two weeks.
23:30It is a big thing, sir.
23:31It is a big favor.
23:32They are going to work very soon.
23:35After that, if you look at the front page story of Dawn,
23:40Heightened surveillance blamed for cyber slowdown.
23:44The ISPs Association has claimed that our speed has decreased a lot.
23:49They say that the speed has decreased by at least 30 to 40 percent per second.
23:56It is the era of 5G.
23:58Respected Prime Minister has said.
24:00I don't know how many crores of smartphones are going to be given to the public in the last few days.
24:05I don't know if people are going to play Candy Crush and PUBG games on Tabs and smartphones.
24:11After that, the Internet Service Providers are coming.
24:15What are they saying about this?
24:17This is the unexpected result of the government's decision to increase security and surveillance.
24:25The Internet Service Providers Association is saying that the country's digital economy has been badly affected.
24:32In the past few weeks, the speed of the internet has decreased by 30 to 40 percent.
24:38This has created a chaotic situation for the digital business and these individuals.
24:45This fast and reliable internet affects them a lot.
24:50This is the Wireless and Internet Service Providers Association.
24:53Alamian Azmi has come in front of us on their behalf.
24:55The effect of the slowdown of the internet, especially call centers,
25:02has been devastating for e-commerce professionals, online, working class and electronic businesses.
25:11These industries, which are the backbone of Pakistan's growing digital economy,
25:16are now struggling to keep operations running.
25:21And the slowdown of the internet is putting their survival at risk.
25:25This has been said on their behalf.
25:27The situation has become so serious that many businesses are considering transferring their operations to other countries
25:33where the internet services are sustainable.
25:38This is a very encouraging situation for our customers.
25:42Many people are leaving small ice pieces because they can no longer maintain a bad service standard.
25:52The chairman of Wazepap, Mr. Shehzad Arshad, has said that if the situation continues like this,
25:57we will see a large-scale export of digital business from Pakistan.
26:05The BBC has also covered this issue.
26:09In Pakistan, freelancers are worried about the internet issue.
26:12We have a loss, but the real loss is of the government.
26:17Mr. Shehzad Arshad is explaining how the Pakistan Telecommunication Authority is silent on this issue.
26:22There is no clear answer from them.
26:25The Urdu News has also covered this issue.
26:28Dear viewers, the problem is so serious.
26:32You have seen that on the Garelu level, there are apps for home-made food.
26:40If they want to start a business in a locality,
26:45for example, if a husband and wife work in the same house,
26:47then they order food from there.
26:49Now their orders are not being delivered.
26:51The poor man is waiting for a passenger on the road.
26:55He is not getting a passenger, he is not getting a client, his application is not running.
26:59In the same way, the big businesses of the on-ground are traveling.
27:05These problems are facing people on a daily basis.
27:09Wazepap is not getting through.
27:11We went to Lahore first, then Islamabad.
27:14Let's see what people have to say about this.
27:16First, let's take you to Lahore.
27:18Due to the recent internet crisis in Pakistan,
27:21the most affected class is the freelancers,
27:25whether they are related to IT, development, or e-commerce sellers.
27:30A lot of people lost their jobs because of the internet.
27:33Now clients are also losing their jobs.
27:35The client's work is not being delivered on time.
27:37I am not able to talk to my customers properly.
27:40They are having a lot of problems.
27:42I want you to solve this problem as soon as possible,
27:45so that my work, which is being distorted due to the internet, gets better.
27:51In Pakistan, there was already a shortage of jobs.
27:53We were able to work properly as freelancers.
27:56Now there are so many problems with the internet,
27:59because of which we are not able to communicate with our clients properly.
28:03Revenue is coming in dollars.
28:04This is also having a bad impact.
28:06When the internet is not available,
28:08we will not be able to keep a stable connection with them in any country.
28:12This creates a lot of gaps for us, which has a bad impact on them.
28:16The government and our institutions should realize that
28:19if these people do not work,
28:22then what you are getting indirectly through exchange,
28:25will stop coming.
28:27Ladies and gentlemen, there is an internet service provider called Fiverr.
28:32A lot of freelancers work on it in Pakistan.
28:35They operate through it.
28:37There is news from Urdu News that
28:39Fiverr has deactivated the status of the people using it from Pakistan.
28:46Fiverr is giving a statement.
28:51We understand that there may be internet disruptions in your area
28:55that might make it harder to keep your routine going.
28:58To make sure any unexpected order delays won't hurt your ratings,
29:03we are going ahead and temporarily setting up your availability status.
29:07Unavailable.
29:10Keep in mind that this action will not negatively impact your ratings.
29:15But obviously, there is a problem.
29:18After that, today we sent our reporters to different places in Islamabad
29:23and took people's reaction from there.
29:25What kind of difficulties did they face?
29:30It's been 15-20 days since the internet issue has been going on.
29:33We don't send any demands or anything.
29:36We don't receive any voice messages.
29:38Even if we send a picture, it doesn't open.
29:40This affects our business a lot.
29:42Because you know, everything happens through the internet and WhatsApp.
29:45The internet issue has been going on for 10 days.
29:48We don't receive any messages.
29:50WhatsApp doesn't work.
29:51Apps don't work.
29:52We don't get a ride all day.
29:55Obviously, we have small children.
29:57Because of this, we are in a lot of trouble.
29:59You have deprived the people of electricity.
30:02You have made everything so expensive.
30:04The people are crying now.
30:05If the internet was silent on one thing, you would have reached it.
30:0990% of our work is on WhatsApp.
30:12WhatsApp or email.
30:14We don't want WhatsApp or email.
30:16Their job is to create ease.
30:18But they have sworn not to let any person suffer.
30:22They have sworn not to let any disturbance and uncertainty happen in the people.
30:26This uncertainty is against the democratic system.
30:32They have sworn not to let anyone suffer.
30:35Mr. Naqvi is saying that they have sworn not to let anyone suffer.
30:40You must be enjoying the speed of the internet in Europe.
30:44You don't even have to use VPN there.
30:48You don't have to use Twitter or other services.
30:53Yes, sir.
30:54Mr. Khabar, you have told us a long story about the destruction of the internet.
30:58I am watching it on news channels.
31:01I am getting similar news.
31:02You have made the people listen to your comments.
31:04But it is also true that you are talking to me on the internet now.
31:08There is no interruption.
31:10I have been called on Skype now.
31:12I have been called on Skype now.
31:13I have been called on Skype now.
31:15I have been called on Skype now.
31:17I have been called on Skype now.
31:18I have been called on Skype now.
31:19I have been called on Skype now.
31:20I have been called on Skype.
31:21So this is the truth.
31:23Now let's talk about another truth.
31:24Mr. Naqvi, let me clarify this truth a little bit for you.
31:27You are in America and I don't know in which country you are in Europe.
31:31I am in Germany in Bonn.
31:33Okay, you are in Germany in Bonn.
31:34Okay, good that you have told us.
31:35And the servers available are not so good and the channels are not so good.
31:42So please don't undermine the problems of the common people.
31:49Listen to the second aspect of this.
31:51What do these distribution companies do?
31:53In areas where there is no recovery, they turn off the electricity and say that there is no electricity coming from behind.
31:59Now these internet companies, these distribution companies in Pakistan, ISPs, which you call,
32:04this is a technical issue that I am telling you, it is a technical thing.
32:08The ISPs buy the bandwidth and then sell the bandwidth to the clients.
32:12And they sell it on the basis of monthly or annual basis and take money in advance or make a bill.
32:17Now if this bandwidth is not reaching the ISP client and charging his bill,
32:22then this government does not go to anyone's house and send the internet.
32:25Ministry of Communication, IT does not go to anyone's house and send the internet.
32:28Mr. Negri, what are you trying to say?
32:30Please tell me in simple words that this is the problem.
32:35Pakistanis are lying all the time.
32:37They have no problem.
32:39You are talking on the internet, right?
32:43So it means 100% this is not true.
32:46Listen to this.
32:48This is Senator Afnanullah.
32:51He is the senator of the Pakistan Muslim League.
32:53He is talking about the loss of 500 million.
32:57The loss caused by the internet.
33:00Today, Shiza Fatima, the IT minister in charge, has taken a notice.
33:11And the IT minister and secretary are accepting that there is a problem in Pakistan.
33:16I know that there is a problem in Germany.
33:18We also have a Muslim League.
33:20It is cold there.
33:22It is fun.
33:23Let's move ahead.
33:24Mr. Chaudhary, you are also talking to people.
33:27People are complaining.
33:29Believe me.
33:30I have to talk to all my reporters in the morning.
33:33So I have issued new orders today.
33:35Call me directly.
33:37I am not getting a call through WhatsApp.
33:39I talk to your people in Lahore.
33:43Mr. Chaudhary.
33:44The whole country is crying.
33:47You have closed your eyes and said that everything is fine.
33:50What do you want me to say?
33:55Your internet is also running fast, right?
33:57You wanted me to call the IT minister.
34:04Did I invite him?
34:05Yes.
34:06You tried to call four people.
34:08If he did not come, it would not have been clear.
34:12If he had called me, I would have talked to him.
34:18We will request Mr. Hassan Youf to call the IT minister.
34:23I will talk to the IT minister.
34:25I will talk to the IT minister.
34:26I will talk to the IT minister.
34:27But you people have taken the trouble to call me.
34:30What do you mean?
34:32We will talk to him.
34:34You are saying that there is no problem.
34:37You are saying that there is no problem.
34:39You should not talk like this.
34:40Hassan Youf is saying this.
34:42The IT minister has a committee.
34:46You are not a citizen of Pakistan.
34:51You are a big citizen of Pakistan.
34:53You are a citizen of Pakistan.
34:55You have contacts everywhere.
34:57You are not a citizen of Pakistan.
35:00I just want to say that this issue is serious.
35:03What do you want to say to the IT minister?
35:05I want to ask him.
35:07You tell me why this issue is happening.
35:09What is the solution?
35:10You will tell me after two weeks.
35:12No, I do not want to tell you after two weeks.
35:13I wanted to tell this to the people.
35:15If there is a technical fault,
35:18Did you face any problem with regard to the internet?
35:20Did you face any problem with regard to the internet?
35:22No, I did not face any problem with regard to the internet.
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39:32So, Mr. Nagvi,
39:34we will have to continue
39:36with Mr. Sharif.
39:38Am I right?
39:40I had told you
39:42that this government
39:44has to make big decisions
39:46before 30th August.
39:48If they make decisions,
39:50it will work.
39:52If they don't,
39:54it won't.
39:56As Mr. Hassan said,
39:58if these decisions are being made,
40:00Pakistan won't be there
40:02for these goons.
40:04$60 billion.
40:06Very good.
40:08Mr. Gulamshan,
40:10Mr. Chaudhary,
40:12what do you have to say?
40:14I told you to give me some.
40:16No, no.
40:18Mr. Chaudhary,
40:20I will try to give you some.
40:22Tell me something.
40:24Yesterday,
40:26you gave $100 billion
40:28to my colleague.
40:30He gave you $40 billion.
40:32Mr. Chaudhary,
40:34Mr. Zahid has been talking
40:36about a national government.
40:38He has been talking about
40:40a national government for a while now.
40:42Yesterday, I was listening to him.
40:44He said the same thing to Mr. Nawaz Sharif.
40:46Do you think this national government
40:48is only in the air
40:50or is there someone behind it?
40:52My point of view
40:54is clear to you.
40:56I don't think this system
40:58will work whether one likes it or not.
41:00You have to get the country out of a crisis
41:02for economic development
41:04and political stability.
41:06The nation has to come together
41:08and the army has to come together.
41:10Absolutely, Mr. Chaudhary.
41:12You are 100% right.
41:14Whatever happens,
41:16let it be good for Pakistan.
41:18That's all for today.
41:20See you again tomorrow.
41:22Allah Hafiz.