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00:00 Assalam o Alikum viewers, welcome to the program.
00:03 In the program, we will tell you about a statement by Faisal Wada that our respected Nawaz Sharif is empty field for him.
00:11 He will run alone, but despite this, his number is probably third or fourth. What is the story behind this?
00:17 Along with this, viewers, you know that a statement came first by Asif Ali Dardari,
00:22 that in different parts of KP and other Pakistan, the registration of Afghan voters,
00:27 on the basis of which the PTI has won elections in the past, there should be an investigation on it.
00:33 And Maulana Fazlur Rehman Sahib is now very serious about that statement.
00:37 He is saying that there is no need for an election, this work should be done first.
00:40 Along with that, Respected Bilawal Bhutto Dardari Sahib is on a tour of Punjab these days.
00:45 But on the tour of Punjab, and obviously he is not targeting Nawaz Sharif, this cannot happen.
00:52 Earlier he was saying four times, now he is saying that he is going to be the Prime Minister for the fifth time.
00:57 Who came in the fourth time? In the middle, because we saw that it happened three times, it was to be made four times.
01:02 So we will talk in detail in the last part of the program.
01:05 But today's top story, viewers, is that in the Supreme Court,
01:09 there was a trial case in the civilians' military courts, a bench of six members was made on it.
01:15 Justice Tariq Masood was leading it.
01:18 The Supreme Court's decision on 23 October, if you remember,
01:22 that they had declared the civilians' trial in the military courts as illegal.
01:27 They said that the civilians' trial should be in the civilian courts.
01:31 But today's decision, the earlier decision on 23 October, has been declared illegal.
01:37 Now the civilians' trial can be in the military courts.
01:42 There were six member benches.
01:44 This decision was made in the 5-1 experience, which Justice Misrat Halali Sahiba has given her opinion against.
01:50 This whole matter, what is it, why did this decision come today, what is the basis for which it has been made,
01:56 how will this case proceed further, we will talk about it in detail.
02:00 Hafiz Edan Sahib is present with us, he is a senior lawyer of the Supreme Court.
02:03 But first of all, we will go to our reporter Raja Abbas Sahib.
02:06 Today, this hearing took place in the Supreme Court.
02:09 How was the hearing held, how long did this hearing last, and how did the decision come?
02:13 Yes, Mr. Araya Mohsin, I would like to clarify a little.
02:16 This decision has been suspended.
02:18 It has been postponed till tomorrow, when the hearing will be held again.
02:23 Mr. Araya Mohsin, tell us, when this bench was started, what were the circumstances?
02:28 Were there any objections from the petitioners?
02:31 And after that, the whole decision was made.
02:34 You were present there.
02:36 Look, first of all, the decision of the Supreme Court on the 5th of June was suspended.
02:43 But it has been suspended on a constitutional basis.
02:45 The proceedings regarding the trials of civilians in the military courts can continue,
02:50 but it has been suspended from the military court by a personal decision.
02:56 Till then, till the time the appeals in the Supreme Court of Pakistan are under discussion,
03:01 the hearing will be held on the 3rd of January by the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
03:10 Today, when the hearing began, the petitioners objected to the bench.
03:15 The advocate, Lateef Khosla, said that the bench was...
03:19 I think there is some disturbance in the line.
03:30 The interesting thing was that the people who objected, they were not allowed to come out.
03:35 Let's try again to contact Mr. Araya Mohsin.
03:38 Hafiz Ehsan is with us. Mr. Ehsan has arrived.
03:41 You were also present in the court.
03:43 Yes, I was there.
03:44 Okay, so tell us some details.
03:47 Now, the decision that has been made, people want to know what is the basis of it?
03:55 Because is it unprecedented that the decision of the 5-member bench on 23rd October,
04:01 has not yet been given a detailed judgment?
04:05 So, is it unprecedented that the case has been brought forward on the basis of a detailed judgment?
04:10 Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim. Mr. Khawer, as you said in your intro and as you said about the case of Masood...
04:15 We will contact Mr. Mohsin again and then come to you.
04:18 Yes, Mr. Mohsin, you continue.
04:20 The objections that Justice Sardar Parikh Masood raised to the court,
04:25 that who has an objection,
04:27 they will be told that the former Chief Justice, who was also a witness in the case,
04:32 the former Chief Justice Jawad Asghaja has objected.
04:36 Justice Sardar Parikh Masood said that Jawad Asghaja has a decision,
04:39 that after the objection, the decision of staying in the bench is to be made.
04:45 And my decision is that I will not separate myself from the bench.
04:51 And along with that, he also said in his remarks,
04:56 when he repeatedly raised objections, Lateef Khosa,
05:00 he said that we have an objection on the bench and you are sitting in the case.
05:03 Justice Sardar Parikh said, so should I stand and listen to the case?
05:07 This was the dialogue between the two lawyers, Benistra Etihad Hassan and Lateef Khosa.
05:15 Was Justice Musarrat Khali's difference of opinion on this, that this is a 5-1 decision?
05:22 See, this 5-6 was a larger bench,
05:26 Justice Musarrat Khali has objected to this,
05:30 and Justice Musarrat Khali raised these questions,
05:34 when the bench chair, Justice Sardar Parikh Masood said,
05:38 where will the trial of terrorists be held?
05:40 So Justice Musarrat Khali had to say that you are comparing political workers,
05:46 they are sitting with them.
05:48 And on the side of Justice Musarrat Khali, it was also said that
05:51 those who are going to be released, why are they not being given bail?
05:55 These were the remarks that came to the court from Justice Musarrat Khali.
06:00 And after a brief hearing, a decision was secured,
06:07 it was said by the bench chair that we will decide on the case that has been initiated today
06:12 by the Attorney General, on the basis of the permission of the trial.
06:16 Then after a while, this bench came back and gave this brief statement.
06:20 Thank you very much, Mr. Muraiya Mohsin, for all the details.
06:23 Yes, Mr. Hafiz Edhan, the question that is being raised is that,
06:26 let's wait a little, I think you were present at the remarks of J.J. Sahiban,
06:30 that should we wait a little so that a detailed judgment comes?
06:34 Instead of finding a solution to all the problems in one go,
06:38 it will come again, then Musrood,
06:40 obviously, the final trial will be held in the military courts,
06:44 it has been added to the final decision.
06:47 Thank you, Mr. Rahman Rahim.
06:49 Let's see this in a little context, then you will understand.
06:53 When these petitions were filed under Article 184.3,
06:56 then the basic objective was that the people involved in 9th May,
07:00 their civilians, their trials should not come under the military courts,
07:04 and they should go under the regular criminal courts.
07:07 On this basis, these petitions were filed.
07:10 Now, when these petitions were filed,
07:12 before that, our practice and procedure act was passed by the parliament in April 2023,
07:18 which was suspended by the Supreme Court's 8th Rukmini bench.
07:22 And after that, the matter continued to linger.
07:25 And when the incident of 9th May came,
07:28 then the Chief Justice of Pakistan, who was the first,
07:31 he made a 9th Rukmini bench on it,
07:33 in which the current Chief Justice was also included,
07:36 and today's judges were also included.
07:38 So, both of them separated themselves from it,
07:40 that as long as we do not decide on the practice and procedure act,
07:43 we will not sit in it.
07:45 After that, when its proceedings started,
07:47 then another one among them, the 7th judge, Justice Mansoor Ali Shah,
07:50 was also objected to it, and he also separated himself.
07:54 Then these 6 judges remained.
07:56 And after 6, the Chief Justice of Pakistan,
07:58 he gave an assurance to the Attorney General in June,
08:01 after that, its proceedings were almost signed and adjourned.
08:05 And when the Chief Justice left,
08:07 then the matter was taken up by the practice and procedure act,
08:11 and the legislation of the parliament was also suspended by the Supreme Court of Pakistan,
08:15 that it does not affect the independence of judiciary,
08:18 and if it facilitates,
08:20 or if the discretion of the Chief Justice is structured,
08:23 then as a Chief Justice, I have no objection,
08:25 and all those petitions were dismissed,
08:27 and a decision was passed on it.
08:29 After that, when the decision of practice and procedure was present,
08:33 then on 23rd October, a decision was passed,
08:36 and in that decision, the thing that was basically going on,
08:39 was on 9th May.
08:41 But the day this decision was passed,
08:43 then hurriedly, a decision was made,
08:45 and those two amendments,
08:47 the 2(1)(d) of 1967,
08:49 and in section 59(4),
08:51 which have the protection under Article 268 of our constitution,
08:55 which was validated by our framers at that time,
08:58 and after that, the constitution of 1973,
09:00 in its articles 8 and sub-article 3,
09:03 there is an exception,
09:04 that you cannot make these laws ultra-viris of the constitution,
09:07 and after that, our Supreme Court,
09:09 for the last 50 years,
09:11 has been endorsing these things.
09:12 But the Supreme Court of Pakistan,
09:14 on 23rd, made a decision from two lines,
09:16 and they said that these two amendments,
09:18 these ultra-viris of the constitution,
09:20 had no reasoning,
09:22 and 4(1) was judged.
09:24 After that, in the practice and procedure act,
09:26 this is the first case of Pakistan,
09:28 on which the intra-court appeal was made,
09:30 on which a larger bench was made,
09:32 and a bench of 6 members was made.
09:34 Now, there are two aspects to this.
09:36 One aspect is that, it has not yet been reasoned,
09:38 and it should have been,
09:40 that if the law is being made ultra-viris of the constitution,
09:42 which has been validated by the Supreme Court,
09:44 and has been done constitutional protection,
09:46 then its reasoning should have been there,
09:48 and if it is not there,
09:50 then it should have been there within two weeks,
09:52 because it was a period of 30 days.
09:54 It should have been there within 4 weeks,
09:56 it is not less.
09:58 Now, when the appeals were filed,
10:00 and it happened that,
10:02 after 9th of May,
10:04 it went much further,
10:06 and it went that,
10:08 there was a paradigm of national security,
10:10 and you said that it is ultra-viris of the constitution,
10:12 and the effect of this was that,
10:14 there was a vacuum of national security in your country.
10:16 Now, when a bench was made on that,
10:18 and let me tell you,
10:20 what happens is that,
10:22 when you go to the first court,
10:24 as a right of appeal,
10:26 and you get a decision,
10:28 and the constitution or law provides you an appeal,
10:30 then generally,
10:32 the courts suspend the judgment,
10:34 that it is your first appeal,
10:36 we will hear it again.
10:38 And that further strengthened argument happens because,
10:40 when already the supreme court or the high court,
10:42 has decided that thing,
10:44 the identical.
10:46 Now, in this issue,
10:48 your parliament was also present,
10:50 legislative competency was also decided by the supreme court,
10:52 due process of law was also done,
10:54 and the larger bench,
10:56 this was 4, 1 to 23,
10:58 the larger bench, which was of 5 members,
11:00 and 17 members,
11:02 was validating this legislation,
11:04 and that process.
11:06 So, today, the supreme court of Pakistan,
11:08 has suspended,
11:10 not the reasoning judgment,
11:12 but the short order,
11:14 which has two lines.
11:16 Absolutely right.
11:18 Sir, if you allow us,
11:20 give us a chance to talk.
11:22 I want to ask you,
11:24 the question is,
11:26 today, the head of the bench,
11:28 Justice Sardar Tariq Masood,
11:30 those people were objected,
11:32 those who were not yet noticed,
11:34 this was the application of Shohida Foundation,
11:36 which was taken up,
11:38 and those who were told to be
11:40 separated from the bench,
11:42 they refused.
11:44 So, can this justify their objection,
11:46 that they are not yet noticed,
11:48 they are strangers in front of the court,
11:50 and you have objected so seriously.
11:52 Look, the first thing is,
11:54 today, the proceedings of the supreme court of Pakistan,
11:56 which came,
11:58 their prayers,
12:00 were in section 143,
12:02 that was on 9th of May.
12:04 The supreme court of Pakistan,
12:06 gave more relief than 9th of May,
12:08 which was not even the expectation of those petitioners,
12:10 it was only up to that extent.
12:12 When you reversed it,
12:14 and brought it to the 67 amendments,
12:16 then the objection that was there,
12:18 was not made,
12:20 and 9th of May is still intact,
12:22 the commitment of 2nd June,
12:24 so there was no objection.
12:26 The second thing is,
12:28 the court tried to pre-empt,
12:30 the respondents,
12:32 that the proceedings have not even started,
12:34 and they first objected to the judge,
12:36 that we have an application,
12:38 and that is of our former Chief Justice,
12:40 Mr. Jawad Iskhajar,
12:42 you should look at that.
12:44 The second thing they objected to,
12:46 that you have disclosed your mind,
12:48 so both of those things,
12:50 the judge of the bench,
12:52 or the other members of the bench,
12:54 observed, that we should look at the details,
12:56 that we do not have a rule of jurisprudence,
12:58 that generally the judgments are suspended,
13:00 on the first right of appeal,
13:02 that is one thing,
13:04 the second thing is that the case was of 9th of May,
13:06 in the Supreme Court of Pakistan,
13:08 and you validated all the laws,
13:10 and were there more judgments of the Supreme Court,
13:12 than the 5 members, 4 members,
13:14 that were legislated,
13:16 that was the case.
13:18 The only thing that you asked,
13:20 that Mr. Halali,
13:22 was not about the merits,
13:24 but that if the interim order is still going on,
13:26 and there is no reasoning,
13:28 then we should wait a little,
13:30 so in that context,
13:32 that is the only thing,
13:34 that you have noticed.
13:36 Let's include Mr. Chaudhary Ulal Singh,
13:38 Mr. Chaudhary,
13:40 if you have any comment,
13:42 or any question.
13:44 No, so the 23rd of October order,
13:46 was it a coincidence of the 5 members,
13:48 or was there a controversy in that too?
13:50 It was from 4 members.
13:52 The question that is being raised,
13:54 is that one 5 member bench,
13:56 made a decision,
13:58 and one 5 member bench,
14:00 suspended it.
14:02 So what is your take on this?
14:04 There is a difference between the two.
14:06 The first decision that came on 23rd of October,
14:08 came from 4 members.
14:10 4 members said,
14:12 that this is an ultravirus of the constitution,
14:14 this is an amendment of 1961,
14:16 and one person said,
14:18 that no, this amendment is correct,
14:20 and this process should be carried out,
14:22 together in the criminal court.
14:24 But the 5 members,
14:26 were in agreement,
14:28 that the trial should be regular.
14:30 No, the 5 members were in agreement,
14:32 that the 9th of May people,
14:34 should have a regular trial.
14:36 One thing was disagreed upon,
14:38 that the amendments of 1967,
14:40 were not ultraviruses of the law,
14:42 or the constitution.
14:44 So this means,
14:46 that the 5 members,
14:48 were in agreement,
14:50 that the amendments of 1967,
14:52 should not be struck down,
14:54 after the 9th of May.
14:56 So if you look at the 4 and 5,
14:58 the judgement of the 5,
15:00 will prevail over the 4,
15:02 and one person has given his reasoning.
15:04 So this is a legal issue.
15:06 So the 5 member bench,
15:08 and the 6 member bench,
15:10 were in agreement.
15:12 This is a very simple thing.
15:14 The decision of the criminal court,
15:16 is a serious issue,
15:18 a national security issue.
15:20 Like the head of this bench,
15:22 Justice Tariq Sahib,
15:24 said that this incident happened,
15:26 two days ago,
15:28 and it was a very sad incident.
15:30 Now it is obvious,
15:32 that there is a debate on this,
15:34 that it is not good,
15:36 because you saw that,
15:38 a letter was written,
15:40 by Justice Ijaz-ul-Ahsan,
15:42 that this bench,
15:44 is being presented as an argument.
15:46 So this case would have,
15:48 been more interesting.
15:50 No, if you look at the composition,
15:52 and look at it,
15:54 Chief Justice,
15:56 when the district bar association,
15:58 judgement came in 2015,
16:00 he was a part of that bench,
16:02 and he had disclosed his mind.
16:04 Now you separate them.
16:06 That is the 21st and 23rd,
16:08 constitutional amendment,
16:10 which was an incident after,
16:12 the dissenting vote,
16:14 against Qazi Faiz Issa.
16:16 Qazi Faiz Issa, at that time,
16:18 had a dissenting vote,
16:20 and majority of the people,
16:22 had dissented.
16:24 So if you have written an express view,
16:26 and it has been published,
16:28 then it means that,
16:30 you have removed it.
16:32 Now the strength of the Supreme Court,
16:34 is your 14 judges,
16:36 Chief Justice has also been removed,
16:38 5 of your judges have been removed,
16:40 and 6 are left.
16:42 Qazi sir,
16:44 has avoided himself.
16:46 Now only 2 judges are left,
16:48 one is Justice Atar Minallah,
16:50 and the other is Justice Shahid Waheed.
16:52 Now Justice Atar Minallah,
16:54 and one is Mansoor Ali Shah,
16:56 Mansoor Ali Shah,
16:58 was a part of the 7 member bench,
17:00 he heard the proceedings,
17:02 and when you objected against him,
17:04 and when you are objected once,
17:06 you don't sit in the continuity,
17:08 and you don't sit in the continuity.
17:10 Now the judges are 3 left,
17:12 Chief Justice has been removed,
17:14 because of that,
17:16 Atar Minallah and Shahid Waheed,
17:18 are your junior judges,
17:20 in the new list,
17:22 so you have only one option,
17:24 that among the seniors,
17:26 you have removed Tariq Masood,
17:28 and then Ameenuddin,
17:30 and then the 4 lists you made,
17:32 and the judges who are in it now.
17:34 Secondly, when a bench is made,
17:36 it is not just the discretion of the Chief Justice,
17:38 they ask him,
17:40 that we have started making this bench,
17:42 what do you think,
17:44 that the Chief Justice should make it,
17:46 and then say that you didn't ask me,
17:48 or you were asking me,
17:50 no no, like the case you are facing now,
17:52 the one that was going on,
17:54 the one with Bhutto's reference,
17:56 in that the Chief Justice said,
17:58 when we started making the bench,
18:00 one of our senior judges said,
18:02 that I don't want to sit on this,
18:04 and these things keep going on,
18:06 but the technicality is,
18:08 that the vacuum that came on 23rd of December,
18:10 9th May,
18:12 and for the time being,
18:14 that vacuum,
18:16 the Supreme Court of Pakistan,
18:18 tried to settle it,
18:20 and organised it.
18:22 The thing is,
18:24 I don't know why they didn't do it,
18:26 that the committee has to decide,
18:28 under practice and procedure,
18:30 the committee,
18:32 and the Supreme Court,
18:34 and this two member committee,
18:36 has made it a majority of two,
18:38 and one,
18:40 and it's not a one man show,
18:42 and basically,
18:44 the majority members of the committee,
18:46 whether they go against the Chief Justice,
18:48 that is Qazi Faizah against Justice Jadhul Hassan,
18:50 and Justice Siddharth Tariq,
18:52 they can do it,
18:54 and the objections that are being made,
18:56 that the seniority principle,
18:58 in the past,
19:00 in the past,
19:02 the Supreme Court,
19:04 has there been an elevation in the Supreme Court?
19:06 You have seen the letter,
19:08 but like Chaudhry Gulam Sahin said,
19:10 yesterday and today,
19:12 that all our important institutions,
19:14 and obviously the Supreme Court has decided,
19:16 and there will be more hearings on this,
19:18 and the interests of Pakistan,
19:20 and the status of the state of Pakistan,
19:22 and our firm belief on this,
19:24 that the interests of the state,
19:26 should be given priority,
19:28 and the rest of the issues are going on.
19:30 Viewers, we will go to the break,
19:32 and tell you,
19:34 what is going on in the political arena of Pakistan,
19:36 what is going on,
19:38 what is the matter,
19:40 what is Bilawal Bhutto Zardari,
19:42 what is the background of the statement,
19:44 that our Tahir Qaed made in Lahore,
19:46 stay with us.
19:48 Welcome back,
19:50 viewers, Maulana Fazlur Rahman,
19:52 and Asif Zardari,
19:54 you are on one page,
19:56 and both these politicians are present,
19:58 recently you saw,
20:00 that Asif Ali Zardari gave an interview,
20:02 in which he has accused Pakistan,
20:04 of the justice system,
20:06 that he has registered some Afghan voters,
20:08 in Pakistan,
20:10 especially in KP,
20:12 because of which they win elections,
20:14 what did Zardari say, listen to this.
20:16 Our so called,
20:18 beloved politician,
20:20 who is in jail,
20:22 he is beloved,
20:24 he was made in 30 years,
20:26 do you know why he talks about Afghans,
20:28 Afghan, Afghan,
20:30 he has registered votes,
20:32 by making his identification card,
20:34 in KP, he has registered voters,
20:36 for this election,
20:38 for every election,
20:40 last election also,
20:42 that is why he talks about Afghans,
20:44 and this should not happen.
20:46 That is why he talks about Afghans,
20:48 Maulana Fazlur Rahman,
20:50 you know that KP has TTI and JUF,
20:52 in the electoral field,
20:54 what is he saying,
20:56 about this issue,
20:58 his excuse.
21:00 Zardari added one more thing,
21:02 that in KP,
21:04 many wrong votes,
21:06 have been registered,
21:08 votes of Afghans,
21:10 have been registered,
21:12 this has become a more,
21:14 a more serious issue,
21:16 for the election commission of Pakistan,
21:18 that it should be investigated,
21:20 that the votes of Afghans,
21:22 have been registered,
21:24 they should be investigated,
21:26 these are the things,
21:28 that were mentioned in the last election,
21:30 this is the reason for the elections,
21:32 this is the reason for the elections,
21:34 and we are demanding,
21:36 a fair election,
21:38 so we need an election,
21:40 but we need a fair,
21:42 and transparent election environment.
21:44 Viewers, despite the fact,
21:46 that the Supreme Court of Pakistan,
21:48 has given the order,
21:50 that there will be no such thing,
21:52 that the elections,
21:54 will be held on 8th February,
21:56 and that there will be no excitement,
21:58 or any kind of panic,
22:00 but our politicians,
22:02 are free from all these restrictions,
22:04 and with the statement of Asif Ali Zardari,
22:06 Maulana is saying,
22:08 that if a solution is needed,
22:10 then for that,
22:12 if a delay can be made,
22:14 then there is no problem.
22:16 If a few days are delayed,
22:18 and we get a fair election,
22:20 with a few days delay,
22:22 then this is not a big deal,
22:24 we have waited for so long,
22:26 so we can wait for a few more days,
22:28 because we are creating questions,
22:30 and all these things,
22:32 the weather,
22:34 I mean,
22:36 the people of that region,
22:38 who live in our mountainous,
22:40 snowy areas,
22:42 they also said,
22:44 that we will have snow,
22:46 and many areas,
22:48 will not be in a position to vote,
22:50 so all these factors,
22:52 should be taken seriously,
22:54 and our statements should not be,
22:56 merely declared as political statements,
22:58 but we are talking on the basis of,
23:00 ground reality.
23:02 Viewers,
23:04 the numbers,
23:06 which are facts on the record,
23:08 in Pakistan,
23:10 there are 42 lakh Afghan citizens,
23:12 who are unregistered,
23:14 and 4 lakh 26 thousand,
23:16 are out of that,
23:18 according to the UNHCR,
23:20 according to the report,
23:22 of 23 October,
23:24 the total number of Afghans,
23:26 in Pakistan is more than 37 lakh,
23:28 whereas according to the Pakistani government,
23:30 this number is 42 lakh 29 thousand,
23:32 according to the Minister of Internal Affairs,
23:34 Mr. Sarfaraz Bugti,
23:36 there are approximately 17 lakh,
23:38 illegal Afghan citizens,
23:40 who do not have,
23:42 residence permits in Pakistan,
23:44 according to the government,
23:46 till 12 December 2003,
23:48 4 lakh 26 thousand,
23:50 865 Afghans have gone back,
23:52 most of them are unregistered,
23:54 and viewers,
23:56 in comparison to 2018,
23:58 2 crore 10 lakh 42 thousand,
24:00 voters have increased,
24:02 how important is this issue,
24:04 Mr. Zardari and Mr. Maulana,
24:06 who are talking,
24:08 should the election be delayed,
24:10 and is there any attempt,
24:12 to puncture this issue,
24:14 what is this?
24:16 If you have started the work,
24:18 which you have started,
24:20 then the Afghans,
24:22 who have acquired,
24:24 the citizenship of Pakistan,
24:26 through making their own ID card,
24:28 then it will take a maximum of,
24:30 one week to trace them,
24:32 and by tracing them,
24:34 because Nadra has started this work,
24:36 very easily,
24:38 and is doing it,
24:40 I am surprised,
24:42 how will their registration be,
24:44 how will they become citizens of Pakistan,
24:46 according to my sources,
24:48 there are 100 thousand,
24:50 which is a figure,
24:52 1 lakh,
24:54 you are saying,
24:56 1 lakh Afghans,
24:58 registered voters in Pakistan,
25:00 yes, 1 lakh registered voters,
25:02 you are making a big claim,
25:04 13 thousand are in Balochistan,
25:06 13 thousand are in Balochistan,
25:08 in Deen, many people have been registered,
25:10 and our Jamaat-e-Islami,
25:12 their supporters,
25:14 have registered,
25:16 now don't put all the blame on PTA,
25:18 PTA has also registered,
25:20 but Jamaat-e-Islami has also registered,
25:22 so now to put the blame on PTA,
25:24 is not appropriate,
25:26 and in Balochistan,
25:28 they have registered,
25:30 but many people,
25:32 even without a political party,
25:34 they have done bribery,
25:36 and have registered their votes,
25:38 now through family tree,
25:40 to remove them,
25:42 to segregate them,
25:44 or to remove them from the family tree,
25:46 if they are included in a false family,
25:48 as an intruder,
25:50 they can be segregated,
25:52 and there is another way,
25:54 but now,
25:56 I will give you a shocking news,
25:58 yes, please,
26:00 many of our neighboring countries,
26:02 the government officials,
26:04 they also have Pakistan's ID card,
26:06 you are talking about Afghanistan,
26:08 yes, Afghanistan,
26:10 this has been in the past,
26:12 Chaudhry Gulamshan,
26:14 for a while,
26:16 accept Hassan Ayub's claim,
26:18 he has seen this news from somewhere,
26:20 he has news from somewhere,
26:22 that 100,000 voters are present in Pakistan,
26:24 the Afghanis,
26:26 which should not be,
26:28 and now Nadira has been asked,
26:30 how did they give this permission,
26:32 and as you are saying,
26:34 we also know,
26:36 that IT is present,
26:38 and they can't do all the scrutiny,
26:40 so even if 100,000 people agree,
26:42 how will they put such a big question mark,
26:44 on the election process,
26:46 on the election process,
26:48 so Mr. Moulana is saying,
26:50 there is a delay,
26:52 but it doesn't matter,
26:54 no, first of all,
26:56 the point is,
26:58 not even one vote should be fake,
27:00 it's simple,
27:02 but secondly,
27:04 if 100,000 people agree,
27:06 then what will be the impact,
27:08 number two,
27:10 number three,
27:12 you are saying again and again,
27:14 8th February,
27:16 instead of 8th February,
27:18 do it today,
27:20 do the election today,
27:22 the whole nation is crying,
27:24 for the last 8 years,
27:26 that you are not doing the election,
27:28 and without the election,
27:30 Punjab and KP were both deprived,
27:32 now you have done the same to the federal government,
27:34 Sindh is also not there,
27:36 Balochistan also, anyway,
27:38 so if you,
27:40 the government,
27:42 your supporters,
27:44 give the whole application,
27:46 that the weather is bad there,
27:48 people are bad,
27:50 voters are stuck in the ditch,
27:52 they won't be able to go on 8th February,
27:54 once, there were 3 elections on 3rd February,
27:56 in which in Lahore,
27:58 only 10% voters came out,
28:00 in that also,
28:02 your supporters were given 2/3 majority,
28:04 although,
28:06 the Chief Election Commissioner,
28:08 and the Chief Justice of that time,
28:10 saw in Lahore, that voters didn't come out,
28:12 Lahore itself was enough,
28:14 so you should use your brain,
28:16 let the elections happen,
28:18 which I think,
28:20 all the voters will give this application,
28:22 that next year,
28:24 the elections should not be held,
28:26 this is my opinion.
28:28 No, no, Choudhary sahib,
28:30 Hassan Ayub's narrator,
28:32 is writing,
28:34 he is saying,
28:36 there is no problem,
28:38 but before going to the break,
28:40 viewers should tell you,
28:42 that our respected Tahiyyat Qaid,
28:44 is also saying that 8th February,
28:46 is going to be a big battle,
28:48 and that will be decided by,
28:50 the Supreme Court,
28:52 and also, Bilawal Bhutto Zardari sahib,
28:54 and other friends of Choudhary Ghulam,
28:56 are asking for elections,
28:58 but they are not getting it,
29:00 so I think, after the Supreme Court's decision,
29:02 I don't think that,
29:04 these news should not go,
29:06 nor will anyone allow it to go,
29:08 but Choudhary sahib is saying,
29:10 that the PDM people,
29:12 may do this at some point,
29:14 but I don't think so,
29:16 and I don't think,
29:18 that they are doing this for any other reason,
29:20 and what can we comment on this,
29:22 viewers let's go to the break,
29:24 and we will tell you,
29:26 that Faisal Wada sahib has drawn a map,
29:28 that there will be a race,
29:30 and only one person will run in it,
29:32 but he will still come on the 3rd or 4th number,
29:34 what is the story behind this,
29:36 we will talk about all of this,
29:38 after the break.
29:40 Welcome back viewers,
29:42 our Tahiyyat Qaid,
29:44 and I am with Ghulam Sain sahib,
29:46 that JIT should be based on the votes of the people,
29:48 and the decision should be based on their votes,
29:50 what is the statement, listen.
29:52 On 8th February,
29:54 the people will be included,
29:56 and the biggest JIT will be formed,
29:58 God willing,
30:00 and the biggest court will be formed,
30:02 and God willing, it will give a historic decision.
30:04 Undoubtedly, the people should give a historic decision,
30:06 respected Bilawal Bhutto Dardari sahib,
30:08 has also spoken.
30:10 The politicians,
30:12 the old politicians,
30:14 who think that
30:16 the source of power is somewhere else,
30:18 but you will prove them wrong.
30:20 You will prove them wrong on 8th February.
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