Trent Williams is Being "Just As Selfish" As Brandon Aiyuk!
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00:00I was asking around, I'm like, why can't the 49ers just make IUC practice?
00:05And the answer is, well, right now they're still trying to keep the peace, trying to
00:11see if they can work something out, trying to see if they can trade him.
00:15But at what point do you just say, now you gotta practice?
00:20That's all.
00:21I'm wondering about that.
00:22Yeah.
00:23Anthony, Anthony on the YouTube chat, the real reason Kyle's not mad at Trent and fans
00:29is because he hasn't asked for a trade.
00:31Maybe.
00:32That might be part of the reason.
00:34That might be part of the reason.
00:36And here's the other thing.
00:38So Trent Williams is 36, all right?
00:41Doesn't have any guaranteed money.
00:45In principle, in the NFL, why would you give a 36-year-old guy guaranteed money?
00:53So here's the deal with Trent Williams.
00:55His money's not guaranteed, but if he shows up and plays, he gets paid $22 million.
01:02And that's too far down the ranking, 6th, 5th.
01:05He don't like that, Steiner.
01:06That's selfish.
01:07And I'm not saying it's not.
01:09He's being as selfish, if not more so, than Brandon IUC.
01:15And maybe you could even make the case that he's being twice as selfish because-
01:19He's been paid.
01:20Yes.
01:21But also because he's, and good for him, he's using his leverage.
01:26That's all.
01:28And I guess, Donny, that's what world I'm in right now.
01:30I don't want to say the Jordan rules, but the dude is still so important, Trent Williams,
01:36to what the Niners want to do.
01:38I have to be truthful and say, hey, this is not all the way how you do it.
01:45But at the end of the day, he's got so much leverage in regard to what he does when he's
01:50out there on a good day.
01:52The Niners have, I think they're in a corner.
01:55Double standard.
01:58But that's society.
01:59That's our life.
02:00Sales, our jobs.
02:01And I'm here to point it out.
02:03I'm sure you get more perks than I do.
02:05I mean, we could go all kinds of-
02:07Whoa, whoa.
02:08Job perks?
02:09Yeah, yeah.
02:10I know of one job perk between the two of us, and you got it.
02:14I don't know what you speak of, partner.
02:17Let's go to-
02:18Real quick, for the people listening.
02:21You don't hate Trent Williams.
02:22No, but what he's doing is BS.
02:24It's BS.
02:27But if you're 36, you got to believe a new deal is going to be no more than two years,
02:32maybe three.
02:33He probably don't even-
02:34Like, it's really much a nothing, Stony.
02:37Do right by me, Kyle and John.
02:39You know I'm at the end.
02:40I've been-
02:41Okay, fair.
02:42I've been the Incredible Hulk.
02:43Fair.
02:44You know, I'm not perfect.
02:45Right.
02:46I should be right up there with Werfs and Sewell.
02:49Come on, now.
02:50Okay, so you're-
02:51To me, that's just-
02:52It's a pimple.
02:53It's nothing.
02:54I mean, you look at 36 like it's some badge of honor.
02:59Two for 56 would give him 28.
03:01I think that would-
03:02He would be here tomorrow.
03:03Was it about the guaranteed money or not?
03:04Well, I believe if he got the new deal, 56 over two would be better than 22 just for
03:12this year.
03:13I think that would get it done.
03:14Well, we're talking about two different things.
03:16But I think you get to get him back in camp if you gave him new money.
03:20Now, it's all dependent on how you do that.
03:23But right now, he's going to get $22 million, Stony, if he were to get hurt for one year.
03:28What if you gave him-
03:29That's right.
03:30Rip that up and you gave him a two-year deal for 56.
03:32And now he's like, okay, I get six million more this year and I get 28.
03:36That's still, under that scenario, is not guaranteed money.
03:39He would just be getting a raise at that point.
03:41Well, maybe that's what it's about, too.
03:43If he wants guaranteed money, that means he wants money that he may never have to play
03:50for.
03:52That's all I'm saying.
03:54And here's the other thing about Trent Williams.
03:57And I just want to throw this out there to fans, because maybe they don't know this.
04:02If Trent Williams shows up the day before the Jets game and gets hurt on the very first
04:09play of the game, he still gets $22 million this year.
04:14So I get it's not guaranteed, because the 49ers could theoretically waive him.
04:21How are they going to waive him?
04:22How are they going to waive- they're not going to waive Trent Williams.
04:26So to me, he's being every bit- all I'm saying is this.
04:32If you think IU is being selfish, you must think Trent Williams is being as selfish.
04:40When I go to the BOLSA comp, I know how you painted the picture of where he was at in
04:46his rookie deal.
04:47But the fact of the matter is, Donny, he didn't show up to work.
04:51I'm not criticizing him, but somehow that's different.
04:54That's less selfish to you.
04:56Yes, because CeeDee Lamb is not in camp, right?
05:02Jermar Chase is not- we've seen this pattern develop with guys who are in IU situation
05:08this year, and guys who are in BOLSA situation last year.
05:12That's part of the game, that fifth year option that rookies from the first round don't want
05:19to play for, and so there's always a little bit of tension, or dissension, or- it's built
05:27in.
05:28So if Trent was on his rookie deal, you would understand this.
05:30Of course!
05:31All right.
05:32Of course!
05:33All right.
05:35I'm calling it early, and I've called it in each of the last two Warrior seasons, Agenda
05:44City.
05:45I don't like it.
05:46It's a bad way to start.
05:47It's a bad way to start the year.
05:49Bad way to start the year.
05:50The Warriors will be a boneyard!
05:54Will's in Maryland!
05:55Hey, Will!
05:56How you doing?
06:00Will in Maryland.
06:01Hey, buddy!
06:02How are you, man?
06:03How y'all doing?
06:04First time calling here.
06:05Sweet!
06:06All right.
06:07Yes.
06:08Well, unless you disagree with me.
06:09I'm all on your side, brother.
06:10I'm all on your side.
06:11Guru, I don't understand.
06:12How could you not?
06:13I'm a lifelong 49er fan, and I absolutely, 100% agree with you.
06:22Trent Williams is absolutely wrong, and selfish.
06:25I've been explaining this to my fellow comrades.
06:29First of all, the difference is, Trent Williams has been paid numerous contracts before, from
06:34the commanders, and he got a new deal coming over here with the 49ers, right?
06:39Yep.
06:40So when he signed that deal, he absolutely said, I want to audit this contract out until
06:45I'm, what, 30, what, I forget how old he is, but he said that, on record, I want to finish
06:52this contract out, and now, what, this contract is not even up for another two, three years,
06:59and now you audit it out?
07:00That is absolutely greedy.
07:01It's absolutely greedy, and it makes no sense.
07:05It makes no sense.
07:06He already knows that the team is already kind of, you know, cash-strapped, so you're
07:12going to be greedy and hold out and want more money, because the offensive tackle from the
07:16line, you know, already got his money.
07:20So you already been paid, and you're making money, so I absolutely agree with you, Steinie.
07:26Trent Williams should absolutely get more of, for business, for holding out, and not
07:33even showing up.
07:34I mean, Brandon Aiyuk has not even been paid yet, you know, I mean, that's a whole different
07:37discussion, but on Trent Williams and Brandon Aiyuk, Williams definitely should be getting
07:44more slack from us Niner fans.
07:47Yeah.
07:48Thanks, Will.
07:49That's all I'm asking.
07:50Here's the other thing.
07:51Why would you give guaranteed money to a player who's already threatened, in a way, to retire?
07:58Oh, I think I'm done.
08:01Remember after the Super Bowl?
08:02Come on, I'm done.
08:03Well, money changes all that, Steinie.
08:04It's all about the Benjamins.
08:05I'm not asking you.
08:06Well, he sounds real committed to this team.
08:08You give him the right...
08:09Hey, hey, I know this is under the selfish umbrella of people, I know, but for the thirsty
08:14Niner fans, and they should be, I mean, I'm below Parkes, you want to win a damn Super
08:19Bowl.
08:21If this is their window, why is Trent Williams, if it's all about the team, that's all I'm
08:28saying, then we're finding out he's not a team player.
08:31It's all about the green.
08:32Exactly.
08:33But do you think...
08:34Let's hold it against them.
08:35Friends, why are Bosa going to side-eye him if he does this and gets new money and comes
08:40back?
08:41No.
08:42They're going to be like, we need you, big fella, let's go.
08:43I'm talking about the fans.
08:45The fans.
08:46And here's the other thing.
08:48Bosa never held out after signing a contract to be the highest-paid player in his position.
08:55That's a difference.
08:57Nick Bosa was on a rookie deal, and he'd outplayed his rookie deal.
09:01And so, he got what he got.
09:04Trent Williams, when he signed the contract, was the highest-paid lineman in football.
09:09Now he's the fifth highest-paid left tackle in football.
09:13That's not good enough for him.
09:15And it still may net him what he's seeking for, what he's looking for, Stoney.
09:19We'll see.
09:20I don't think it's such a no-brainer that the 49ers are just going to cave with guaranteed
09:26money.
09:27That's all.
09:28Whatever it takes to get him back in before Monday night, we just want to get to Gen.
09:33How about $22 million?
09:34Will that help?
09:35Seriously, with $22 million?
09:38I think not.
09:40I mean, man, we talk about leverage all the time, and his play is his leverage.
09:46Is he what he was 10 years ago?
09:47Hell no.
09:48But he's still an all-pro, and he's the best lineman the Niners have.
09:52And now we're talking about, this is what's crazy.
09:54This conversation, this late in the game, right before the eve of the game starting
09:59to count is, in a year that we're going to, or the Niners are going to really look with
10:05a keen eye on Brock Purdy and his growth, you're telling me he's going to lose a weapon
10:10in Brandon Aiyuk, and now you guys are playing this game of chicken?
10:14Both of them, both parties, with Trent Williams as left tackle?
10:17Not kind of how you want to start the season.
10:21All I'm saying is, all the focus has been on Brandon Aiyuk and the 49ers and what's
10:28going on.
10:29He's holding in, he's there, he wants more money, they want him to play for 14, he wants
10:35a long-term contract.
10:37We have seen that play out multiple times.
10:41If you're siding with the Niners, you side with the Niners.
10:43If you think Aiyuk's in the wrong, you can say Aiyuk's in the wrong.
10:47All I'm saying is, if there's anybody out there that's really PO'd at Brandon Aiyuk,
10:55why aren't you more upset with Trent Williams, who's got more than Brandon Aiyuk has right
11:05now?
11:06That's all I'm asking.
11:07Would it be about talent?
11:08Well, my point is this, Trent Williams is a better player than Brandon Aiyuk.
11:14That's fine.
11:15So, let's just acknowledge, we're less upset with Trent because he's a better player.
11:21Not because what he's doing is any different, in fact, I think it's worse.
11:27I actually do think it's worse.
11:28But for the Niner fans out there, Stoney, that are not judging their players and they're
11:32just caring about what happens on the field, I believe there's a sector of fans that are
11:37just like, I don't care what happens, pay him whatever he wants, or figure it out and
11:41get his ass back out here.
11:43Well, and that's the same thing many said about Aiyuk.
11:47And for some reason, they're not just paying him what he wants.
11:51And there's an assumption that they're going to pay Trent Williams what he wants.
11:55And they might.
11:56And they might give in to Trent Williams.
11:59But it doesn't make Trent Williams any less selfish, greedy, or any of the other names
12:06that were here in for Aiyuk for Trent Williams.
12:08That's all I'm saying.
12:09Now, Chris A. on the YouTube chat, Stoney, and there's a, I'm not upset with any of them.
12:14That's fair.
12:15Yeah, and I believe a lot of fans, there's a lot of people like that.
12:18But I mean, again, you just, the words you brought, Evan's word last week was continuity.
12:24This is not it.
12:25And you could say, oh, it's early, it means nothing.
12:27No, your team is leading off every damn show or our articles are being written about everything
12:32but football on the field.
12:34So we'll see.
12:36Yeah.
12:37Like, I've, you know, if people ask me, are you, Stoney, more of a players guy or ownership
12:43guy?
12:44I'm more of a players guy.
12:45I definitely am.
12:47But, and I don't, and I'm not saying Trent shouldn't be getting his money or shouldn't,
12:52the fact that he's holding out isn't, doesn't bother me one way or the other.
12:56What bothers me is we're not talking about Trent Williams being as selfish as we are
13:05about Brandon Aiyuk being selfish.
13:08And if, and if it's just because of social media, then I'll say, well, you know what?
13:12One guy's 36 and the other guy's 25.
13:15Maybe that's why one guy's on social media handling it worse than the 36 year old.
13:20But the 36 year old is still sticking it to the Niners.
13:24But Stoney, he's also, his bus is waiting for him in Canton.
13:28And you're hoping that Aiyuk will have that career off to a good start, but you hope that
13:32he's a 49er.
13:33Here's the other thing.
13:34So, so now we're acknowledging we're paying for what guys have done.
13:37No, what he's done.
13:39You don't get to the done in the past.
13:40No, what he's done last year.
13:42Again, he was all pro and I'm with you.
13:45Bonte, we talked about it.
13:46Didn't have his best Super Bowl.
13:47Okay.
13:48Bad games happen.
13:49But my point is for the Niners to keep up and still have that vision of getting back
13:53and winning the NFC or the NFC West, you need 71.
13:58You need him more, 100 more times than you need Brandon Aiyuk.
14:04That's just the facts of life.
14:06Right.
14:07So he's been a bigger tool really than Brandon Aiyuk.
14:11Guys made 170 million in his career.
14:15Trent Williams deserved every penny.
14:18Last year he declined for his standards, getting paid 22 million this year.
14:27I mean, 22 million this year.
14:31He plays the season, comes back next year, he's going to make 22 million.
14:35Plays that year.
14:36He's coming back.
14:37He's going to make 33 million the last year.
14:39If he's still playing quality football in two years after this year, next year, he's
14:47going to make 33 million.
14:50Just talking to you, man.
14:51I'm like, this is a nothing burger with cheese on it.
14:54But the more I'm talking to you, I'm wondering if they knew about this since March and nothing
14:58has happened.
14:59Could this actually go the distance before week one against the Jets?
15:05Like I said, unless they're hooking him up and big fella, you just stay at home.
15:09We know you're working out wherever, LA Fitness.
15:12We'll see you when we see you.
15:13But if it's not that, then this, I mean, my goodness.
15:17All I'm saying is that Trent Williams is being selfish.
15:27He's not being talked about in the same negative ways that Iuke is getting talked about.
15:34And he's doing the exact same thing.
15:37And to my way of thinking, really, not less of a right to do it, but he's signed a contract
15:47making him the highest paid lineman three years ago.
15:52And now he's still top five.
15:55So here's the thing, OK, you want to pay him for the pass, then you're going to give him
16:01a raise to $28,000, $29,000, so you're going to pay him like the top lineman in football.
16:06Do we know he's going to be the best lineman in football this year?
16:11It would be the same as, did we know Bosa was going to be the best lineman when he signed
16:14his deal and he had a, for his standards, not his best season.
16:18Yeah.
16:19It's got a, but you got me thinking, this is not a slam dunk.
16:25I hope I'm wrong.
16:26I don't know.
16:27No, no, no.
16:28That's how I feel now.
16:29Like if they've known since March and we're in August, maybe you're missing something.
16:35This thing, they might play hardball with Trent.
16:37This is the bottom line.
16:39Trent nine to five.
16:40I think he's right on the money.
16:42Trent Williams is trying to get some guaranteed money because he's trying to get guaranteed
16:50money so that he can retire and not have to play all three years of his deal.
16:56That's what I believe too.
16:58That's why he wants guaranteed money.
17:00If he wants guaranteed money, maybe he just wants to be the highest paid lineman in football
17:05and all they have to do is give him a raise from 22 to 28 and it's done and he'll come
17:10in and play for 28.
17:12But man, selfish or not, as much as I feel like the Niners have Brandon Aiyuk in a corner,
17:21I feel like Trent has the Niners in a corner in regard to if he's at home on the couch
17:28when the games count, the impact of him not being part of this team is far worse than
17:33Brandon Aiyuk.
17:34I'm not going to disagree with that at all.
17:37I wonder if that gets them to budge, though.
17:39If that gets them to pick up the phone and be like, hey, come on now, let's get this
17:42fixed.
17:43Steini, this is football.
17:44Contracts mean nothing.
17:45It's not basketball.
17:47Guaranteed money is all that matters.
17:48You know what?
17:49Then show up week one and you'll get $22 million guaranteed.