Justice Athar Minallah Speech in New York Bar Council - Waseem Badami's Important Report - video Dailymotion

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00:00Pakistan's Supreme Court Judge, Justice Athar Minnala, who is under a lot of debate these days,

00:06in America, in New York, he gave a speech and said some very interesting things about a sitting judge in Pakistan's current situation.

00:13Although he did not relate to the current situation, but of course, we can relate and understand a lot of things.

00:20For example, at a time when this is being discussed, generally being discussed, he did not say that,

00:25Sir, this government is an illegal government, this is an illegal government,

00:30whether the West will give acceptance to this government or not, this is very important.

00:35What will be the role of America? This is very important.

00:37Sir, Mr. Athar Minnala, quoting some of the past references, he says,

00:41that the people of Pakistan have always fought against illegal, illegal and authoritarian governments.

00:49But, this work for the people of Pakistan,

00:52I mean, they have fought against them, but this work for the people of Pakistan,

00:55that is, fighting against illegal governments, becomes even more difficult

01:00when the outside world legitimizes such governments.

01:05At a time when the regime is about to change in America,

01:09there is an interesting comment, see what exactly he said.

01:13The people of Pakistan are extremely resilient.

01:17They have struggled, they have resisted unconstitutionalism,

01:22they have resisted authoritarian rules for the last 76 years.

01:27It becomes more difficult for them.

01:30It becomes more challenging when the outside world endorses unconstitutional authoritarian regimes.

01:40And at such a time when the Supreme Court of Pakistan has given a decision

01:43and it is clear that it cannot be implemented,

01:47it cannot be implemented, there will be disappointment,

01:49there will be no session, this is what the Federal Order is saying,

01:51some other people are also saying this.

01:53Mr. Athar Minnala's comment is very interesting,

01:55although he did not speak in the context of this decision,

01:57he spoke in a general sense, he says,

01:59that if the judge knew that the judge would not tolerate anything illegal,

02:05then the judge would not have tried to ignore the judge's decision.

02:12Why?

02:13Because then the judge also knows how to act on his decision.

02:18It is the duty of the judge to act on his decision.

02:27See what exactly Mr. Athar Minnala said about this.

02:31If people have confidence in a judge and if the authorities know

02:35that the judge does not tolerate things that are not legal,

02:39then they do not even attempt to violate the judgment

02:42or refuse the judgment to be implemented.

02:44Because then the judge knows how to have his judgment implemented.

02:49Every judgment has to be implemented

02:51and it is the duty of the judge to have the judgments implemented.

02:56Every judgment has to be implemented

02:59and it is the duty of a judge to get it implemented.

03:02You must remember that recently,

03:04when the PTI government fell, the courts were open at night.

03:08The Supreme Court and the Islamabad High Court were also open.

03:11There were a lot of headlines at that time.

03:13And the PTI itself made it a target of criticism.

03:15Mr. Imran Khan kept saying in the sessions

03:17that what did I do that you opened the courts at night?

03:21These things also happened.

03:22At that time, there was a lot of criticism from the PTI

03:26that the courts were opened because Imran Khan is being given a message

03:30to get voting done, to get it implemented.

03:33Otherwise, action can be taken against you.

03:35At that time, Mr. Minala was asked

03:37that why did you open the courts at night

03:39or why did you open the Islamabad High Court?

03:41He said that the purpose of opening the court

03:43on the night of Tehreek-e-Adam Ijtemaat

03:45was to create an atmosphere.

03:47He also gave a reference to the ARY.

03:49It created an atmosphere as if martial law is being imposed in the country.

03:51He further said that whenever martial law is possible,

03:54the courts should be opened.

03:56He also said that it should have been opened on October 12

03:59and it should have been opened on July 5.

04:01To get an idea of what the court is saying at the moment,

04:03I have always taken guidance from Justice Yahya Afridi.

04:05I, Yahya Afridi and Mansoor Ali Shah,

04:08who is also the next Chief Justice,

04:10we are the same.

04:11He also said that you know that

04:13some judges have written letters

04:15regarding interference in the court.

04:17He said that I chose the judges of Islamabad High Court

04:19with great effort.

04:21Out of the six judges who wrote the letter,

04:23five judges are mine.

04:26In recent history,

04:28Mr. Minala says that

04:31in 2018,

04:33when the cases of Muslim League Noon

04:35against Mr. Nawaz Sharif

04:37were suspended

04:39from the court,

04:41it was Islamabad High Court.

04:43At that time, Mr. Athar Minala

04:45used to be in Islamabad High Court.

04:47Obviously, he gave this decision

04:49in favour of Muslim League Noon.

04:51At that time, PTI did not like this decision

04:53and Noon League got relief from it.

04:55Let's see what Mr. Athar Minala says about it.

04:57He says that in 2018,

04:59when the cases of Muslim League Noon

05:01were suspended

05:03from the court,

05:05it was Islamabad High Court.

05:07He says that in 2018,

05:09when the cases of Muslim League Noon

05:11were suspended

05:13from the court,

05:15it was Islamabad High Court.

05:17He says that in 2018,

05:19when the cases of Muslim League Noon

05:21were suspended

05:23from the court,

05:25it was Islamabad High Court.

05:27This propaganda was so strict

05:29that even my close people started believing it.

05:31In fact, Mr. Athar Minala said

05:33that at one time,

05:35I started doubting it.

05:37The judge of Pakistan's Supreme Court

05:39and the judge of Islamabad High Court

05:41when they gave a decision

05:43in favour of Muslim League Noon

05:45and PTI was very upset,

05:47let's see what exactly he said.

05:57I started doubting myself.

05:59I said, maybe,

06:01even those who were very close to me

06:03started believing

06:05that probably I might have got those two flats.

06:07I also started doubting myself.

06:09I said, maybe,

06:11you see, because it was so strong.

06:13This was the time when PTI was very upset.

06:15A judge of PTI

06:17used the word pharaoh for him

06:19and a lot more was said about him.

06:21Now, the time has changed,

06:23the situation has changed,

06:25and now,

06:27the situation has changed.

06:29Now, Noon League is very upset

06:31and now PTI is the best judge.

06:33They are very happy.

06:35They also said that

06:37recently,

06:39the personal information of my two sons

06:41was made public from a government institution.

06:43Recently, a documentary was made

06:45on my wife,

06:47who has nothing to do with politics.

06:49At that time,

06:51the people who were propagandizing against me

06:53have summarized this whole situation in words.

07:17And he also said that

07:19today, those people who benefited from that decision,

07:21that is, we are talking about Noon League,

07:23and at that time,

07:25when no one else was giving them relief,

07:27today, those people are also criticizing

07:29or they are not liking it.

07:31He also talked about the past.

07:33This was the talk of the past.

07:35The talk of the past is also very interesting.

07:37Quickly, if I tell you one of them,

07:39he says that when Musharraf sir

07:41closed his eyes to the judges,

07:43then I took a request,

07:45but the registrar put my request

07:47back with objections.

07:49I closed my eyes to the same judges

07:51colony where the other judges

07:53could see him from their homes,

07:55but that petition was not accepted.

07:57Athar Minnala sir,

07:59was a very important character

08:01of Adliya Bahali Tehreek,

08:03Iftikhar Choudhary's movement.

08:05But he also believes that after Bahali,

08:07Iftikhar Choudhary's attitude was not

08:09very admirable.

08:11He said that after Adliya Bahali,

08:13the court's attitude was not admirable.

08:15The Supreme Court should not have

08:17removed Zardari sir and Hussain Akkani

08:19from office.

08:21Nawaz Sharif went to the court

08:23wearing a black coat and said that

08:25Zardari sir and Hussain Akkani

08:27are conspiring against the army

08:29together with the United States.

08:31Athar Minnala sir says that

08:33in that case, our ambassador

08:35Hussain Akkani was declared

08:37a traitor by the court.

08:39This was not in the interest

08:41of Pakistan.

08:43He says that a prime minister

08:45was a traitor.

08:47He says that the 18th amendment

08:49was a good act.

08:51For the first time,

08:53the method of appointing judges

08:55was decided.

08:57But unfortunately,

08:59the then Chief Justice

09:01Iftikhar Choudhary did not

09:03find it appropriate.

09:05There was a time when

09:07the 18th amendment was

09:09almost decided.

09:11The Parliament was forced

09:13to act.

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