Jaylen Brown CALLS OUT Nike & Addresses Derrick White | Cedric Maxwell Podcast

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Welcome to the Cedric Maxwell Podcast, where no topic is off-limits! In this episode, Cedric and Josue Pavon dive into the controversy surrounding Jaylen Brown's Olympic team exclusion, shedding light on his concerns about Nike's influence.

From Bronny James' summer league struggles to the Celtics' roster depth, they explore the intricacies of NBA team dynamics. They dissect Paul George's move, the potential Celtics ownership change, and Dwane Casey's departure from Detroit.

Delve into the financial intricacies of NBA team ownership and the implications of salary cap penalties. Stay tuned for insights on coaching contracts and the competitive landscape of the NBA.

0:00 - Intro
3:57 - Nike controversy
5:51 - Jaylen's response
9:10 - Boston Celtics' move
13:56 - Celtics roster returning
17:02 - New York Knicks depth
19:20 - Celtics team value
21:29 - Porzingis contract uncertainty
23:19 - NBA dynasties and super teams
26:55 - Dallas parade hype
29:40 - Kyrie's surgery announcement
33:04 - NBA playoff intensity
35:46 - Klay Thompson to Dallas
38:00 - Warriors' future decisions
39:51 - Red Auerbach's philosophy
41:53 - Importance of shooting skills


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00:16All right.
00:17Still episode of the Cedric Maxwell podcast.
00:20I'm Joseph Pavone.
00:21He is Cedric Maxwell all season edition for sure, man.
00:24We had a nice little vacation break, but we're back with a new batch of episodes and we started
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00:30Max, how are you doing, man?
00:31How's North Carolina treating you?
00:32It's excellent.
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00:34Heat index was, I think, 110 today.
00:35Damn.
00:36That's Vegas weather right there.
00:37It's been baking down here in eastern North Carolina.
00:38I was down at Myrtle Beach for a while.
00:39Now I'm in Kinston and, you know, just moving that around.
00:40But tomorrow is supposed to be just as bad.
00:41It's going to be 105 tomorrow.
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06:46If Jaylon wants to take offense to anybody or anything, these things happen.
06:50And now what he can do is hold his world championship ring and go from there in this $300 million
06:57contract and say, so what?
06:59So what?
07:00I didn't get invited to the Olympics and look what I've accomplished?
07:04Yeah, he's going to take it out on the floor for sure, man.
07:06He actually pulled up to Summer League the other night, Celtics versus Lakers.
07:11the rivalry in, in, in, in summer league form with, with
07:15Brawny James and yeah, it went well for Boston. He built
07:20another house out there, a bricks. What'd he do? Yeah, he
07:24did. He did. He did. Yo, this man's 0 for 12 from three right
07:28now, Max. 0 for 12. Uh big deal or no big deal. We're not doing
07:33that segment but just, just, just on that alone. Big deal or
07:36no big deal. What do you, what do you say? Big deal. Uh you
07:39know, not in the fact that he, he, he has a contract and a
07:42guaranteed contract that most players don't have. Three-year
07:45deal. Three-year deal and, and that is strictly about his dad.
07:50It's nobody else. I mean, we, that's not sugar coated. It's
07:54about LeBron James, one of his son on that team and he had the
07:58power to pull the strings and make it happen. We wouldn't be
08:01talking about Brawny James if in fact, he was any other player.
08:05We wouldn't even be talking about him in, in that vein but
08:08because he's the, the son of one of the greatest players that
08:11ever to play the game. It's a, it's all, it's fair now and
08:16LeBron opened it up by saying, look, I want to play with my
08:18son and where did they leave the Lakers? Play, pick number
08:23fifty-what? Four. Fifty-five. Fifty-five, yeah. And the
08:27Suffolk's pick before them. Where have the Suffolks had
08:29taken? They should have, Max. You were, you were hated that
08:33idea. They should have. You wanted it. I know. Danny would
08:37have done that **** You know, you don't want, you don't want
08:40that smoke. Why? Danny Ainge would have wanted that smoke.
08:42He would have spent a late second round going. Why do you
08:44need, why do you need that to come to you? If you're the
08:48bosses, why do you need the drama? If in fact, you're
08:50already the world champions. I mean, you just want, just what
08:53you just want to be messy. That's just, that'd just be
08:56messy. You don't need. I'm choosing, I'm choosing violence.
08:58What does, what does Brawny James do for your team but
09:01become messy? Oh, no, no. I'm not talking about Brawny. I'm
09:03talking about assets, Max. Hey, Lakers, you, you, you, you
09:07afraid you're going to lose his day? Well, well, what do you,
09:09what do you want from him? What do you want from Brawny? That's
09:11not an asset. You know, you, you, you know what? God don't
09:16like ugly. He ain't fond of pretty but he sure won't like
09:19ugly. So, the Boston Suffolks did what they need to do. They
09:22took a quality player. Hey, Watson. Somebody that, you
09:26know, could help them out. And LeBron, Brawny James can't help
09:29them. He couldn't help him out. I don't think he helped the
09:32Lakers out. Now, I can be wrong and I hope, matter of fact, I
09:35hope that I'm wrong. I hope that Brawny is able to play but man,
09:39that's a tough road to hoe when you play, when your father's
09:42one of the best players ever to play the game. I can't help but
09:45think about what Gary said when we had him on, right? Like,
09:48stunting his growth. Like, you're not, you're not doing
09:50Brawny any favors here, Max. It's not like this is going to
09:54expedite the process. Like, that doesn't, it doesn't work like
09:56that, right, Max? Like, another year in college doesn't, you
10:00know what I mean? You can't make up for that experience with a
10:03year in the G League or a year at the end of the battle.
10:05Whatever, whatever this, whatever plays out for Brawny
10:07this upcoming NBA. NBA in the NBA, it's like this. Either you
10:13have it or you don't. You just don't develop overnight in the
10:17NBA. Right. Your tools have to be there. Is he an exceptional
10:21shooter? Well, by 0 for 12, that means no. Is he exceptional
10:25defender? He's six, he's six, one and a half. The guards in
10:30the NBA are six, four, six, five now. So, what does he bring to
10:35the table that you can't get right now from essentially
10:40anybody in the G League? So, but but God bless him. The fact
10:44that it it happened, I think it's monumental and it happened
10:48but what I see is a train wreck. Hope it's not but I see a
10:54train wreck. Yeah, man. You might be right, Max. You might
10:59be right. I mean, I I again, I I think he he's like any other
11:02late second rounder. He's gotta find his way but there's all
11:05this pressure and this hype and this, you know, uh attention,
11:10it's not gonna help him, man, especially in the early go.
11:13He's gotta find his own way. He's gotta find a way to drown
11:16out the noise because I think it's affected him. You know,
11:18you can't. How can it not? You can't be unnoticed in the
11:21assembly. If your name is is Bronnie James and you're
11:26playing against the against the Celtics. Yeah. How'd that how'd
11:30that look? You you watch the game cuz that's that's your
11:33thing. You will look at the train wreck. I in fact, I will
11:36turn away. I don't even wanna sit. I didn't wanna know what
11:39happened. I didn't wanna know what happened until you
11:42actually saw it. That's I'm I'm good. I'm good with this. I
11:48don't need to know about Bronnie James who I I feel is
11:52not gonna be one of these guys who's gonna destroy people.
11:55Well, you know who's balling out in that game, man? Nemus
11:58Kata, man. He flirted around with a double double 22 points,
12:01eight rebounds. I know he's at the end of the bench last year
12:03but the the new deal he signed, you know, along with a bunch of
12:08a handful of other players that signed as is pretty much has
12:11got the Celtics roster ready to compete for the next two, three
12:14seasons. How you how you feeling about that, man? And
12:16of course, Jalen's a big part of that as well with his with
12:18I mean, excuse me, Tatum is a big part of that as well with
12:21his max deal, the richest in NBA history. Well, what you
12:23did, you you solidified your team. You got all your your
12:27your ducks in a row and you're unlike some of the teams who
12:31have just recently won it. People talked about what Denver
12:35did, what Denver can repeat because Joker is the best
12:38player. Joker's a hell of a player and Murray was a hell of
12:42a player but the guys that they had coming off the bench, they
12:46Yeah. I mean, you, Jeff, you said, laughed. Oh, Jeff Green
12:49wasn't this. Jeff Green was solid for them. Bruce Brown.
12:52They haven't replaced him, Max. They haven't replaced either
12:55of those guys. They were good. And you couldn't, you, you
12:58couldn't replace him. You look at their bench strength. It
13:00wasn't there. When they played in the playoffs, when Joker
13:03went out of the game, they had nothing else. Right. So,
13:07they're gonna have to go out and try to do what they did but
13:13the Celtics, how many players are coming back? Al's coming
13:16back. You know, who who's who's the ape guy? Who else?
13:20Pritchett's gonna be back. Pritchett's gonna be back. White
13:23got a new deal. It was like, oh, I mean, it's like, it's like,
13:27you know, just when they said, bring the band back, bring the
13:30band back together. Well, the the band is coming back and
13:34will they be tougher because the and I think they will
13:37because they're a younger team. Then, we're, again, we're
13:39talking about health. You gotta be healthy, obviously. Right.
13:42We'll see how long Porzingis is out. You know, will they do
13:46Porzingis like Al and just try to baby him those second nights
13:49of back to back? Now, how valuable is Al Horford? All of
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15:26he's he's ready to take on that role as the starter. You know
15:30before Porzingis comes back, whether it's Christmas,
15:32whatever the timeline may be. However, another year, you know
15:36I love that Brad Stevenson looked at the rest of his
15:40centers and say, okay, I gotta choose one of these guys. No,
15:42he signed both of them. Luke Cornette's coming back. You
15:46know, you got, you know, Cade is back. Like I just met, you
15:51know, like that's a motivation factor for him because it's
15:53like, okay, we can relax. I got my security here. I got at
15:57least three years to prove myself and I don't have to
16:00worry about these guys letting me walk in the next couple of
16:03months. So, I think all that is important. It's very, it's
16:05huge when you look at oh and Tillman, that's the other guy
16:07too. Tillman, you know, all that matters to me because
16:10obviously in the playoffs, we found out that death matters
16:13and the rest of the NBA is finding that out in the at the
16:15wrong time. When you look at the second apron era and some
16:18of these guys, some of these teams, they can't really add to
16:22to a roster the way they would want to because they weren't
16:24prepared for this. Look at the Phoenix Suns, Max. The Phoenix
16:27Suns are the last team to go and do the super team route and
16:30say, oh yeah, we only got four or five. I mean, we got like
16:33five guys, six guys on the contract. We'll figure out the
16:35rotation. I mean, look at look at our big three. We got
16:37Durant. We got Beal. We got Booker. We'll be fine. What
16:41did that do for them? Like, it's not, that doesn't work
16:43anymore, Max. That formula is is is the the old days out with
16:49the old. Yeah, I think the one thing you're saying is truly
16:51for me really is true is that you look at it. The Celtics
16:55have Jason Tatum as a star but is he a superstar in this
16:59league? The Browns are super strong. Celtics got a bunch of
17:03great players but not not the the supernova, not not the
17:07LeBron James, not not that kind of player. Guys who are, you
17:11know, ain't man who's going to the next level. Right. Tatum,
17:14Tatum is in there. Tatum is in their wheelhouse. Brown is in
17:19their wheelhouse. Top fifteen, top ten, whatever. If you look
17:23but but as we tried to say before, if you look at the
17:26effect of the roster and them coming together and the players
17:30they have and that's crazy. It's still crazy. I mean, you
17:34you look at the Lakers with their depth or lack of lack of
17:37depth. Uh you look at the team that you know, I think is
17:40getting some depth to me might be the New York Knicks. No,
17:43yeah. Their lineup. They just added another guy too. Yeah.
17:47Everything. I mean and and the thing that they did, I think
17:50it was really smart was Brunson took less money. Brunson took
17:55thirty-one million instead of getting forty-one to forty-two
17:59to whatever. So, I can build around me. I can and that's
18:04going to allow the Knicks to go out and do a few more things.
18:07I still don't believe they're in the same, you know,
18:10vicinity as the Boston Celtics but it but it definitely puts
18:13him on the apron and now you look at what Paul George coming
18:17over to Philly. You called that **** You called that man a
18:20couple weeks ago. Gary was like, oh, he's probably going to stay
18:23at the Clippers. You were like, that boy's going to Philly.
18:25Why wouldn't he go? I was trying to figure out with
18:28Gary. Why wouldn't he go to Philly? Yeah. I mean because if
18:31you think about Philadelphia, he instantly does not need a
18:35ball to be effective. He's a guy can score the basketball.
18:39He can defend the basketball. You can put him at. Now, you're
18:43saying he's number two, number three on the depth chart and it
18:47gives him more of an opportunity to, you know, kind
18:49of hang out and not have to do as many things when you got a
18:52Joel Embiid and you got a Maxi but there are times you know
18:56that Paul George was ability to step up, can knock down shots
19:00and take over games too. So, I think it's a it's a real good
19:03move for Philadelphia and what they have to do. Were you
19:07surprised when you heard the news about what Grossback and
19:10you know, giving up his share, the you know, majority owner of
19:13the Celtics team? Yeah, I was I was a little surprised but it
19:17makes sense. It makes perfect sense because what what do you
19:21do? Just where they always teach us now. You buy low. So
19:26high. They don't get higher than this, Max. The Boston
19:29Celtics. Yeah. You think about it. We're bought for three
19:32hundred and forty million. Whatever it was, I think it was
19:36less than Tatum's contract at three hundred five whatever it
19:39is. Yeah, you're right. Back in 2003. They were bought at that
19:43price that many years ago. Now, this team is worth probably
19:47like four, maybe 5 billion dollars. Billions. Yeah. 4.5,
19:52I think. And if you're selling this team right now, you you've
19:56been and he doesn't say like he's selling it all. He's just
20:00selling. He's selling a majority share and what they can do is
20:04they can start rolling their money back. They can take, they
20:08can take 5 billion dollars for the sale and still keep, you
20:11know, 20% of the team. Maybe not as a a bigger footprint but
20:15still an opportunity for them to do some things, you know,
20:18that they like to do. I heard that Pagliuca, his his group
20:22were talking about, you know, going out and buying this team.
20:25So, it's going to be it's going to be interesting year right
20:28now for the Boston Celtics from a managerial standpoint, from
20:31a ownership standpoint or should we say governor
20:35standpoint. It should be very interesting what this team is
20:38able to do. Yeah, Max. Especially when you look at
20:41this timeline. I mean, let's let's face it. Whenever this
20:44this guy comes in, whether it's Steve Pagliuca or someone else
20:47like, they're going to have some really, really hard decisions
20:49to make. You know, that's going to be around the time where
20:51contracts are up, you know, the next couple of seasons, you
20:55know, guys like Porzingis, Al and all that stuff. I mean, I
20:58just think this window. What is what is the topic going to be
21:01about Al? Al's going to play. I mean, okay, maybe I shouldn't
21:04have said Al but. Yeah, you shouldn't have said Al. Maybe
21:07you should say Porzingis. Porzingis is a big one. Can you
21:11Porzingis has two years left on this contract. Can you come
21:14back somehow and being able to sign him or whether you know,
21:18you got Tatum, you know, you got Brown, you know, you got
21:21Drew, you know, you got white. So you got those guys stuck
21:25already. It's going to be Porzingis is the the biggest
21:28question mark that you're going to have and they're talking
21:31about penalizing teams with the second apron by going over the
21:35salary cap and you know, maybe we call some 100 million
21:37dollars. Well, what is 100 million dollars to these teams
21:42when you just spent 4 billion dollars on this team and on the
21:46fact you look at Marnie Williams who just left Detroit,
21:50they gave him 69 million dollars just to go home. That was
21:54crazy. Go home. Like why didn't you even sign up for this?
22:00We got your address. We we know your address already, but just
22:03just go home. Yeah, but Max, he got the richest deal any
22:07coaches ever had in NBA history. Like why wouldn't they
22:09at least run it back? That's a G League team. They got in
22:12Detroit, Max. They'll make it sound like he dropped the ball
22:15here. What are we doing? Yeah, I get what I get what you're
22:20saying. But you know, whoever the ownership is believe that,
22:24you know, his time that they didn't believe in him and he
22:27got players out there. Some cave come to him is a very nice
22:30player. Ivy is a good player. So they should be better than
22:35they were. I think when they played Boston at that time,
22:38they almost beat the Celtics. Yeah, they almost got that
22:41losing streak. They almost snapped it, but it didn't
22:43happen. The Celtics came back and won that basketball game,
22:46but and I asked Rick Mahorn, who was my counterpart for
22:51Detroit radio. I said, why if you guys play this hard? He
22:54said, we don't play this hard all the time. We don't play this
22:57mark all the time with the team he was talking about. So
23:01again, here's another Rick Mahorn who's probably going to
23:04be, you look at the schedule and you say April 15th. Oh,
23:08where are we going to be? We'll be home. We go seasons over
23:13where is the Boston Celtics? You just ended less than a
23:15month ago. They definitely booked his vacation, huh? Max
23:18that when we have Rick Mahorn on man, that's one of my
23:22favorite episodes last season. That was that was hilarious.
23:28What are you going to say my folk? No, no, I was good. I was
23:31good. Yeah. No, I just um no, I just it's it's just
23:35interesting the way money's being thrown around, you know,
23:36the NBA and I get it the new TV deal and all that stuff plays a
23:40big part as well, but that tax bill Max, you know, like how
23:44many years is is the the ownership going to be able to
23:49go or not be able to but willing to to to carry that,
23:52you know, with the second apron restrictions and all that
23:56like that's the reason why the NBA did this. I feel like they
23:59want to avoid teams having dynasties and the Southerners
24:02are really going against the grain right now. I don't know
24:04why you want and here's the thing about it. I don't know
24:06why you wouldn't want teams to be that why you want to have
24:08super teams. Do you think of the the two teams in the 80s
24:12that were the most explosive teams that were the Celtics and
24:15the Lakers two dynasties after that it was Chicago, you know,
24:19Detroit for a minute was that a dynasty with them winning two
24:23in a row, but then you look at the Bulls and that became a
24:27dynasty and then you look at after then you move on you have
24:31the Spurs Spurs. Yeah, a dynasty and then Golden State
24:35Warriors. If they hadn't lost Kevin Durant, how many how many
24:39times would they have won because people keep saying they
24:42had the cheat code. They had the cheat code when they had
24:44Durant and Curry and and and I think that's what started this
24:48whole thing like the NBA was kind of like, okay, we gotta do
24:51something here. It's thirteen and yeah, but but the Celtics
24:55were they were ahead of it. I believe it's I believe that
24:59kind of stuff is for me. I see it as good. It's a good
25:02advertising for a league when you have a super team and and
25:06then other teams trying to knock them off. Yeah, but
25:10that's just me. Do you consider the Celtics a super team though
25:13because it's hard to consider them a super team, but they had
25:16the talent that it could you know what I mean like you get
25:18what I'm saying like for me super team is like when when
25:21when you know what I'm gonna say let me perennial all stars
25:24all come together and no one expected. Let me give it to
25:27you. Sneaky good sneaky great if they if there's such a
25:31thing because you look at their person. Look what they did this
25:35year. They had more games won by fifty thirty forty twenty
25:40than any other team in the NBA and the times that they just
25:44ran rough shot through through the league. They they they were
25:48what at the end of the Eastern Conference, but they were twelve
25:51games or or something clear of the Eastern Conference. No
25:55nobody played that well and the only thing that people were
25:58waiting to happen for the Celtics. They were waiting for
26:01the Celtics to fall flat on their face so they could get
26:05that. You're lying told you some told you told you they
26:08want that. Oh man. That's all you know all those dudes. I
26:12mean, but but everybody the season and I was I wasn't I was
26:18waiting like everybody else just to see what was gonna
26:21happen. But this team proved that they were a great team and
26:26and they beat people and they beat people up. Then people
26:29said, well, they they barely or Indiana. They lost the best
26:32player. Okay. You lost for seniors when you play the right
26:37right. How many teams would have lost it? I mean, yeah, you
26:41do that. so and now you play Dallas and everybody's a lot of
26:46the the consensus big guys reporters out there parade in
26:51Dallas. It's gonna be a parade in Dallas. No way Dallas Dallas
26:55has the best player. Well, the scenario was painted wrong from
26:59the beginning. They did not have the best player Tatum and
27:03Brown were the best two players. There were times when
27:06white was just as good or you look at true holiday was
27:10fantastic. So let's get away from all this other stuff about
27:15the best players were in Celtics were in green and they
27:19played well enough to dominate the NBA and win a championship
27:23convincingly not not, you know, it's like, oh my God, what's
27:26gonna happen? We're going back to Dallas. Dallas won a game
27:31and you get the Boston for game five and they get blown out
27:35six or seven days. You're found by 20 at the half. Pritchett
27:39hits a shot and I don't think I've heard the garden that loud
27:43ever when he hit the half court buzzer game and that it just
27:48like it just like took the air out of the building. I think
27:52the biggest thing to me was just the hatred for no Sean
27:56Grady, my broadcast partner, kept saying, well, I'll tell
27:58you what's going to happen. Kyrie is not going to be the
28:01villain at the ultimate villain at the end of, you know, this
28:04series because Luca is going to be the ultimate villain
28:09because the way Luca plays and talks to the crowd and all
28:11this stuff. Oh, I wouldn't know what happened. Kyrie was still
28:15the ultimate villain because he won Kyrie did what I thought
28:19was a really cool thing when he congratulated Celtics on
28:23winning the championship. He still got beat up for it. They
28:27beat his ass for exactly what sportsmanship would be like
28:32this. Oh, he's just showboating. He did. Did you
28:35ever, did you have a problem with it? Just way with him
28:38congratulating the Celtics for winning the championship
28:40before the before the game was over? No, not at all. Well,
28:44people did. You know that, right? I didn't know that.
28:46What did they say? There was a bunch of reporters who say,
28:49you know, Kyrie was just showboating and he just wanted
28:52the spotlight to be on him and that, that, that, that, that,
28:55that. I don't, I don't subscribe to that, man. Yeah,
28:57not at all. But me, but that was the still the, the venom
29:01that was in that building for Kyrie. Even after the game,
29:04people were still chanting Kyrie's name at the end.
29:08Celtics have won the championship at the parade.
29:10People were chanting Kyrie's name. Kyrie was on the island
29:13someplace with his wife and kids laid back, chilling. He's
29:18not even thinking about it. Yeah. Just, you know, just
29:20what he was doing like this. Give me, give me another drink.
29:23Yeah. I have another one of those drinks right there.
29:26Mojitos. Let me get one of those. And my wife will have a
29:30Margarita and he had an umbrella in his drink. Some of
29:34the love, love, and life, love, and life. Yeah, well, the news
29:39just came out that he's gonna, he's gonna need surgery soon
29:42but apparently, it's an injury that happened after the finals
29:44or something that happened during training but yeah, I
29:47mean, look, I'm, I'm happy for this time, this moment that he
29:52had or at least this, this time in his career where I feel like
29:55he's just in such a better place and I really don't think
29:58that was something that he was trying to play off or trying to
30:01put out there like, oh, I'm different or whatever. I think
30:03it's genuine. I really do but that was never, that was never
30:06gonna change what's gonna happen on the court though. You
30:08don't think it was a good place when the fans were behind him?
30:10He was going. Well, that was, that was the old Kyrie. That's
30:14what I'm saying. That was the old Kyrie but he's still in his
30:17feelings. It still hurts. Kyrie was. Look what happened at the
30:21game. Look what happened at the game at the game too. He went
30:24to the crowd telling him, oh, we'll be back for game five.
30:26We'll be back. Alright. You were. All the fans are like,
30:29let's celebrate it here then. Sounds good. He was right. They
30:32did come back to game five. I was surprised that they came
30:35back. Yeah but you knew there was gonna be a blowout though
30:38man. He knew that game wouldn't be close. I didn't think that,
30:41I didn't think that Dallas would come back. I thought it
30:44would be when the Celtics won game three, went three oh, I
30:47thought it was over then. Right but once Dallas won game four,
30:50you weren't worried about game five, right? No, I knew the
30:54Celtics was gonna come out and put their foot on the on the
30:57gas and that's exactly what happened. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,
31:01look, that that's what I feel like the experience of losing
31:04in the finals and just experience overall for a lot of
31:06these guys on that Celtics team played his part and then that
31:09that talent gap, I felt like significant talent gap between
31:13the Celtics and the Dallas Marriott. I was like, that's
31:15gonna catch up at some point. Why didn't people think that
31:19before the series? People kept saying about Washington, how
31:23good he was gonna be. How Jones was, Jones was gonna be
31:27dominant and all these all these naysayers talked about
31:32exactly that. This is what I see. Luca is the best player
31:36and he's gonna dominate the games anytime he wants to.
31:38Well, he didn't and what we saw was Luca, the lack of
31:42defensive mobility as he got blown by like some NBA record
31:4862% of the time. I mean, just the way hell he couldn't have
31:52kept me in front of him, you know, thinking about defensive
31:55man. Is he a hell of an offensive player? Yes, he is,
31:57but he gets you back that much more and some on the defensive
32:02end. Yeah, he does. Yeah, he does, man. They need uh that's
32:06what that's that's the lesson of the summer for for Luca.
32:10Addressing the defensive end of the floor and how to impact it
32:13because he was exposed in a big big way throughout that NBA
32:16final. You know, it hurts. You know, it does, man. That's why
32:18we saw the most effort we've ever seen from Luca in that
32:21game four matchup but then of course, you can't just turn
32:24into a defensive player in the middle of a series. You might
32:27be able to do it for one night but you're not going to all of
32:29a sudden turn to Derek White or or you know what I mean? You
32:32know, one of these moving hands, a lead defender. No, no,
32:37you're not in shape for that, right? If you look at it, you
32:40are who you are, right? At that late a time in the season, I
32:44would tell people, you don't trick people anymore. It was
32:47like when I was a finals MVP, you didn't trick anybody. You're
32:50just, you're just better than the guy besides you, the guy
32:53they have guarding you because they're going through different
32:56ways to stop you but they can't find a way to stop you, right?
33:00And the same thing is like, you know, you can do all this stuff
33:03because when you repeat games and when you have seven game
33:06series, it's not like, you know, football, the Super Bowl
33:09where, you know, you're going to have a somebody can be the
33:13finals, you know, can be the MVP because you have one great
33:16game. When the NBA, it's a kaleidoscope. It's a whole, I
33:24guess, cake that is made out there. And it's what Jalen
33:28Brown did. Jalen Brown put together a cake. He was
33:31dominant. He was dominant, not only on the offensive end, but
33:35he was really good on the defensive end because what he
33:38did, he made Luka work and sometimes bringing the
33:42basketball up, stealing the basketball from Luka. He just
33:45put a lot of pressure on me. So, he had had to use just as
33:48much energy to bring the ball up whereas when you looked at
33:52him against Minnesota, he just casually started walking the
33:55ball up. Nobody put pressure on him until he crossed half
33:58court. He didn't have that much more energy to lose to use on
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35:43guaranteed. So Dallas Mavericks signed Klay Thompson not too
35:47long ago. So, the Splash Brothers are no more. Wow. In
35:51San Francisco. Are you surprised by this news?
35:57I think I think I wasn't because I think Klay felt like
36:02he was being disrespected. And I don't know how you
36:06disrespect somebody when you have, you know, you have put
36:10all this money into it but he can see his his role being
36:14diminished. He saw Dominga getting minutes. He saw all
36:18these other guys starting to get minutes and they started to
36:21cut down on his but he's going to Dallas which I think is
36:25almost a perfect situation because if you're if you're a
36:28guy like Klay Thompson, what they're asking you to do is
36:32spot up and knock down shots. Spot up and knock down. How
36:36many times did we see you know, all these guys get
36:39opportunities to shoot the basketball. PJ Washington,
36:43wide open. Couldn't score against. Couldn't do it. Yeah.
36:46You know, Jones who is a who played great against
36:51Minnesota. Couldn't score against. Couldn't score
36:54against the South. And green too. Coming off the bench. And
36:57these were wide. These were wide open looks for those guys.
37:00So, so I I think that in in Klay's or Klay's Klay's going,
37:06two things happen. One, he's going to opportunity where he
37:09feels like he can win another championship and two, he's
37:12going, he also is going to, people don't know this but the
37:15state of Texas has no state income tax. So, your money is
37:21going to go further in Texas and in Florida because neither
37:26one of these places have state income tax. Yeah, that's a good
37:29point. Well, I don't know man. I remember I got a check from
37:33the Houston Rockets one time. Oh, that's right. I first got
37:36traded there. I was like, wait a minute. Whoa. Why am I
37:40getting? Look like I look like I'm getting some more money.
37:44That's what's going on here. What's going on? You don't do
37:47this in Massachusetts. Yeah, they didn't do this in LA when
37:50I was playing with the Clippers. Man, this is maybe
37:52they made a mistake. No, no, no. They they they did what
37:56they did and that was part of the gig. But isn't there a part
38:02of you that just thinks that maybe the Warriors should just
38:04break up the whole band, man? Like, didn't Danny A show
38:08everyone how it's done? You know what I mean? Or is it just
38:10the sentimental, the sentimental values? What are you
38:13going to do? Get rid of Steph? Danny Wood? Because because you
38:20don't want to be the organization that all of a
38:23sudden, you know, the party's over and it's taking you 10
38:27years to get back to where or or even being a competitive
38:29team again, you know, that probably probably is true and
38:34the asset value that you could get for a Steph Curry would
38:39probably be tremendous. Huge. I I'll I'll agree with you. I
38:43mean, because you don't see them competing or get an
38:47opportunity to win another championship. You look at right
38:50down the street. You look at what Sacramento is doing. You
38:53know, Sacramento is is a team right now that gives the
38:56Warriors fits and that was even when Klay Thompson was there.
39:00Right. So, I I think that you you probably right. You're
39:04probably right. If you're going to break the band up, you're
39:07you're probably right. I mean, that was one of the things that
39:10Danny Ainge learned from Red Arback and he asked Red one
39:14time. He said, he said, you had a chance to get old Larry Bird
39:19and Kevin McHale and send them to Dallas for I think it was
39:23Deathless Shrimp and Sam Perkins. Oh, no, no, no. It was
39:27the Pacers, wasn't it? No, no. It was I think it was. I don't
39:31know. I think I think he was in. I think they were in Dallas.
39:34Oh, because they ended up in Indiana. That's probably what
39:36it is. Yeah. So, they could have, they could have made that
39:39move but Red Arback who always said all the time, never fall
39:45in love with the product. Be ready to move and be ready to
39:48change direction and they didn't and this took somethings
39:53forever in the day to get back where you know where they're at
39:56today. That's funny you bring that up because the moment I
39:59heard Danny say that was when I realized, oh, this thing's got
40:02an expiration date. KG, Paul Pierce and them, they're not
40:06going to retire something like that. Like as a younger version
40:10of myself, that was a lot to take in but then now, as an
40:13adult, I'm like, oh, well, that's what every organization
40:16should do but not the Warriors. They're not doing that. They're
40:18holding on. Well, you won. What did they get? He's won four
40:22championships. Is it four? Four rings. So, yeah. So, yeah,
40:27they're there and but I tell you what, all the people who
40:30love the Warriors right now are doing just like you. They're
40:33dissing the Warriors and saying the same thing you're saying.
40:36You know, sell the ship. Save some of the people on the
40:41inside. Right. Build another one to go even further. Let's
40:45let's build an ark right now. For real. Let me kick everybody
40:49else off. We got you but we're going to bring all the animals
40:51on. We're going to build this ark. We're going to sell it but
40:56we're going to rebuild. We're going to replenish and like you
40:59said, they're they're at the point where you look at their
41:01team. You say, okay, Steph Curry, Tremont Green, who's
41:07your next best player? Exactly. That's that's the question go.
41:12Who is with a with a league now that has and every every great
41:17team in this league has at least three really strong
41:21players that that you think about Dallas was what Dallas
41:25had to learn the hard way. Minnesota has some really good
41:29players. You know, three, four, you know, really good players.
41:33You know what happened to Denver? They had just two great
41:38players and after that, they couldn't. So, you you you gotta
41:42be more like the Celtics spread it around, have a bunch of
41:46really, really good players, almost borderline great but
41:51collectively as a unit, they're so much better because they had
41:57the depth and there was no way to stop and there was no way to
42:01stop the Celtics. You just stop one guy, what's going to
42:04happen? You stop two. I remember my brother-in-law was
42:06complaining. Oh, poor Zingas. He ain't nothing here. He didn't
42:11and I finally told him a stat. I said, poor Zingas led the
42:14league in post-ups, post-up points. He was like, what? He
42:19led the league in post-up points. So, unlike Rob
42:23Williams, he was gonna score. Yeah. Rob Williams is gonna
42:27pass it. So, you go out there when you had poor Zingas out
42:31there, you had five guys at all time who could knock down a
42:35three and score the basketball for you. You think about it
42:38like oh and they had Rob Williams. You had four guys out
42:41there who could score the basketball and Rob Williams was
42:44a rebounder but he wasn't going to score or be affected from
42:47Dallas outside. Right. I mean, just like you remember that
42:52tape that they had the Rob Williams shooting threes? He
42:56was trying. You were like, look at him. Look at him. Look at
42:59him. He's shooting threes. I'm like, just wait. You see the
43:02guy who's guarding him. He's about you. He has a broom in
43:05his hand. Literally, he's got a broom in his hand. He's shooting
43:10threes over a guy your size and he has a room in his hands.
43:14What what how's that gonna work out in the real game?
43:21Yeah, man. I mean, that's the that's the that's the formula.
43:24There's something's new. I mean, with Joe Mazzuolo, people can
43:28say this team lives in Dava. No, no. He just makes sure
43:31they can all shoot that three. That's what it was. Just wait.
43:33How good was Joe Mazzuolo? Oh, man. How good was he? Got
43:38everyone to buy in. I mean, not in big compared to his first
43:41season. I mean, he was under the rest from the time he
43:46stepped on the court following the EMA to even when they they
43:52won the championship. Still, there were doubters about Joe
43:55Mazzuolo. I'm not sure what he is. I'm not sure about this but
43:59Joe Mazzuolo had to weather the storm, man. He believed he
44:04believed in his players and his players believed in him and
44:07that's what made this a great basketball team. The the
44:10continuity that they had between players and coaches.
44:15100%, man. That's why they're the NBA champions and they have
44:18plenty of opportunities to get another one for sure, man.
44:21Welcome to this episode of the Cedric Maxwell Podcast. Of
44:24course, like, subscribe, share the episodes, all that good
44:27stuff and we got some more. We got some we got some great
44:31stuff coming up, man. We got some more A-list guests and all
44:34that and a mailbag episode, Max. We got a lot of people
44:37hitting me up and just in Twitter and just on Twitter in
44:40general, a bunch of questions they want to ask you and stuff.
44:42So, I figure we do a mailbag episode within the next couple
44:45of weeks. So, stay tuned for that but yeah, man. Everyone,
44:48I hope you're enjoying your summer, summer league and all
44:51that. You know, I was happy about, I was happy about the
44:54t-shirt we gave away. I bought them damn Celtics. I bought
44:57them damn Celtics. I love the fact that we had a bunch of
45:01our subscribers get the t-shirts and we saw a lot of
45:04them at the at the parade. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Hey,
45:09Max. Look, I got you. Got the t-shirt. I bought them damn
45:12Celtics and then when I had Michael Felger with the t-shirt
45:15on, that to me just took it over the top because he's the
45:18ultimate hate the Celtics. He'll hate the Celtics and when
45:22he put it, he had your face right there on the shirt. Oh my
45:26god. He had, he had to, when he had to end up, you know, you
45:31know, wearing the green team thing. That to me, that was,
45:34that was spot on but again, guys, we want to thank you. You
45:37only make us stronger. You know, we've, you know, just
45:40when I've been doing this for a minute and we've enjoyed you
45:43guys immensely and we're going to try to keep bringing on
45:47quality product. So, so we can, you know, do what we need to
45:51do. Absolutely. As I say right now, like your boy E40 would
45:56say, ping pong, ping pong. Back and forth. Back and forth. How
46:02you feel right now, man? Hey, good, good meeting you, man.
46:05Ping pong, man. Okay. Alright. Alright. I'll never forget the
46:10way you looked at me like I'm a translator. I'm like, you
46:13**** know. He just told you back and forth, I guess. But as
46:19Chuck D said, that man got his own language, man. He got his
46:22own slang. That was crazy. Absolutely crazy. Alright, we'll
46:27see you guys next week, man. Enjoy something summer league
46:30for guys who are watching and everybody else out there. Enjoy
46:32the rest of your summer, of course, but we'll see you next
46:34week, man. We got a brand new episode.
46:50Joseph Pavone here, CLNS Media, and if you made it this far,
46:54that means you really like this video. So, hit subscribe, make
46:57sure you keep our notifications on, damn it, and
46:59we got plenty of great content coming your way.

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