Outlook speaks to Congress leader Avinash Pandey. He shares his insights on the political shift in Uttar Pradesh and discusses the public’s desire for change, the strategy of the alliance, and the impact of Rahul Gandhi’s leadership. He also talks about the party’s commitment to democracy and justice for all.
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00:00 that the people of Uttar Pradesh have become desperate and have become a mind of change.
00:06 What kind of environment are you seeing in UP?
00:13 One thing I want to understand is that when you won 20 or 22 times in 2009,
00:21 this time you are fighting for the Alliance and you have been given 17 seats.
00:24 Fortunately, I was also in charge of the team with Digvijay Singh in UP in 2009.
00:31 We worked in a team under the leadership of Digvijay Singh.
00:40 At that time, Rahul Gandhi's focus was in UP and we got his leadership and guidance very closely.
00:50 I am feeling the same kind of situation in 2009.
00:55 The people of Uttar Pradesh have become desperate and have become a mind of change.
01:01 They have decided to change the central government, to change the Modi.
01:05 They want a change.
01:08 You will feel this in the political discussions of the people here.
01:14 I am happy that Congress as an organization, Congress as a mother party of all parties in Uttar Pradesh.
01:22 Our roots are very strong in Uttar Pradesh.
01:25 And I have been here for the last three months, especially by centering the Lok Sabha.
01:31 I have done a two-time tour of the state and organized a review at various places.
01:41 I am very happy that in this Lok Sabha election, people have taken a new turn in the politics of the country.
01:52 Especially after Rahul Gandhi's tour of India, politics has taken a new turn in the mentality of this country.
02:02 And with a new mindset, every part of this country's farmer, youth, middle class, small businessmen, every part wants a change.
02:12 The government has been running in this country for the last ten years in a tyrannical manner.
02:20 And because of that, every part of the country is feeling cheated.
02:25 You are telling your position that you are very strong.
02:31 My question is not that. I am asking that in 2009, you won 22 seats.
02:36 And in 2014, when you are fighting for the elections, you are fighting for 17 seats.
02:42 This is the specialty of the Gatbandhan.
02:45 And despite being a 149-year-old party, Congress is fighting for only 300 seats in the country out of 543.
02:56 And its purpose is that 32 other political parties, opposition parties, who believe in democracy,
03:08 all such parties have to come together. And the main reason for this is that for the last 10 years,
03:14 the Indian People's Party, led by Modi, has been weakening democracy.
03:19 And more than 800 national leaders from different parties, have been pressurized,
03:27 and the police and ED have been threatened in the right way.
03:33 They were called corrupt by yesterday, and after wearing the bandage of the Indian People's Party, they become criminals.
03:40 So, under this process, every political party realized that if we want to compete,
03:48 and if we want to remove Modi, then we all have to come together.
03:51 And because of this, the party has shown a big deal and is fighting for only 17 seats in Uttar Pradesh with 80 seats.
04:00 And that is called coalition, that is called understanding, for facing an opponent like Modi and BJP.
04:10 Sir, Congress is saying that they will stop Bhajpav from getting 30-40 seats.
04:17 So, how did you prepare this roadmap? Let me complete my questions.
04:22 How did you prepare this roadmap? When we travel in the Kurwanchal area, there are many yogis and Modi's rallies.
04:30 So, how did you get 30-40 seats in Uttar Pradesh?
04:34 See, these kinds of rallies are not even visible anywhere.
04:39 Even if you look at the assemblies, whether it is of a yogi or a Modi,
04:44 the rallies are seen in the assemblies of Rahulji.
04:49 You will see the wave when you see Raybarli, Amethi, Lucknow, Jhansi, or Kanpur or Kannauj.
04:58 That is called a wave.
04:59 If we make a relay through media, event management, and entertainment programs,
05:05 and call it a wave, then the youth of this country are completely attracted to the people and the farmers,
05:13 and they want change.
05:15 And you will see this wave of change in the whole of India, especially in Uttar Pradesh.
05:20 Rahul Gandhi does not contest the elections in Amethi, but he goes to Raybarli. Why is that?
05:29 It is very natural.
05:31 Raybarli, Amethi are the ancestral seats of the Gandhi family,
05:36 where from centuries Jawaharlal Nehruji to Indira Gandhi, then Rajiv Gandhi, and then Sonia Gandhi,
05:44 have fought from these seats.
05:46 And after Sonia Gandhi left Raybarli for the Rajya Sabha,
05:51 it is natural that Congress leaders asked him to fight from this ancestral seat,
05:57 because this seat is of the entire family, and Rahul Gandhi was given the responsibility to serve the people there.
06:04 So why did he leave Amethi?
06:06 He did not leave Amethi at all. He gave it to K. L. Sharma, a senior, experienced, and an associate of ours,
06:14 who is more than a family of the party, close to the Gandhi family,
06:19 and has been serving both the constituencies for the past 30 years.
06:23 The second time also there was a fear of losing,
06:26 and an image would be formed about Rahul Gandhi after this defeat,
06:29 that he is not a hero of the Hindi heartline.
06:31 The question of the Indian People's Party, when the results will be announced on June 2nd, 4th,
06:39 it will become clear that first they should deal with K. L. Sharma, who is very far from Rahul Gandhi.
06:44 If the government of the India Alliance is formed, then who will be the face of the PM?
06:51 It is very natural, there is no doubt about it.
06:54 All the partners of the India Alliance will sit together and discuss,
07:01 and whatever decision is taken, will be taken collectively.
07:05 Will Rahul Gandhi be the PM?
07:07 Rahul Gandhi is leading the party today.
07:10 Rahul Gandhi, Akhilesh Yadav, Shriharat Pawar, Amitabh Banerjee, all are partners in this.
07:16 The party is leading the party, will it be the country's or the India Alliance's?
07:19 All the senior leaders of the alliance will decide.
07:23 One question, the BJP is repeatedly saying that you are raising the issue of constitution,
07:26 that the reason for the 400th day of the BJP is that they will change the constitution.
07:30 They are saying that they are scaring people, sometimes they scare Muslims,
07:34 and now they are scaring the backward society in the name of the constitution.
07:37 For 10 years, by terrorizing the people of this country,
07:40 and in a tyrannical way, sometimes by money-binding, sometimes by misusing all the constitutional institutions in this country,
07:46 by terrorizing the people of this country, if Modi ji and the BJP speak such language, it is a joke.
07:54 On this stage, their honourable ministers and honourable MPs are repeatedly repeating this,
08:00 why are you ignoring that?
08:02 They are talking about changing the constitution, they want to bring one law,
08:07 they want to bring one election in this country,
08:09 they are giving the slogan of one language, one religion, one food, one religion to the people of this country.
08:16 So I think we will have to ask your question to them,
08:19 that in this, the fear is that to warn, alert and save the constitution,
08:23 this is the right of the citizens of this country.
08:26 In your announcement, there are many important promises in that announcement.
08:33 People have a lot of hope, there is a lot of discussion about giving Rs. 1 lakh to women.
08:38 But people are looking at the announcement in the mirror of the current government,
08:43 is it not that when this government comes, it will not be a joke?
08:48 This is the difference between Modi and Rahul Gandhi.
08:51 This is not an important announcement, this is a justice letter.
08:55 Rahul Gandhi, after travelling more than 10,700 km,
09:00 has met every sect, every caste, every society, every sect of the country,
09:06 and met people personally, knowing their problems,
09:09 and based on their suggestions, this justice letter has been made.
09:12 In which justice is given to every sect of the society.
09:15 Justice for the youth, for our mother power,
09:18 especially their economic security, justice for the farmers,
09:22 justice for their crop, by giving them the right price, to increase their income,
09:27 by giving them legal security, by making them lawful for MSP,
09:33 by calculating every sect of this country,
09:36 and by making them a part of the economy of the country.
09:40 So this is justice, and the more important announcements that we made,
09:45 in Telangana, Karnataka, Chhattisgarh, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh,
09:49 we have made these things in Himachal Pradesh, these are being implemented.
09:54 And the promises we made to people, we have fulfilled,
09:57 even if it is a farmer's loan, we have paid it.
10:00 And that is why people have faith in Rahul Gandhi's leadership,
10:03 and what he said, we have done it.
10:05 We have faith in this.
10:06 So there is no illusion in the people of this country,
10:09 people are well aware of Modi ji's words, and his word guarantee.
10:14 You have said something that is illusory,
10:16 I have just one question, sir.
10:18 In the last 5 years, if we have seen the most in Congress,
10:22 it is that the leaders of Congress, the big leaders,
10:25 have left and gone to BJP.
10:27 There are two big leaders from Uttar Pradesh, Nitin Patel, and you have R.P.N. Singh,
10:32 both of them have left.
10:34 What is the reason?
10:35 This question, personally, if the country,
10:38 you have taken the name of two,
10:40 I can name 888 leaders of the country,
10:44 and these 888 political leaders,
10:46 the leaders who have been the MLA, CM, MP,
10:51 the board of corporations,
10:53 who are leading the society,
10:55 by identifying them,
10:57 by using all the constitutional institutions,
11:01 by threatening them, by threatening, by intimidating,
11:03 by intimidating their families,
11:05 and by terrorizing them,
11:07 they were forced to take such decisions.
11:13 Some people are opportunists,
11:17 they think that where there is a will, there is a way,
11:21 I am not talking about them.
11:23 But usually, not only at the national level,
11:26 not only at the state level,
11:27 but at the district, community level, and village level,
11:30 there is this kind of poaching,
11:33 of including people.
11:35 They have taken it as a mission,
11:37 but I don't understand,
11:39 why is the thought of this country,
11:41 connected to the constitution?
11:43 People of this country,
11:44 believe in democracy,
11:46 people like the atmosphere of brotherhood,
11:49 people of this country,
11:50 believe in the mutual respect of all religions,
11:52 and the respect of their faiths,
11:55 and in the last 10 years,
11:57 the government has given,
11:58 the people of this country,
11:59 have become very familiar with it.
12:01 Sir, one last question,
12:02 you are the head of UP,
12:03 from UP, your alliance, India Alliance,
12:06 how many cities have you won,
12:07 and overall, in the whole of India,
12:08 how many cities have you won?
12:09 In UP, there are 4 seats,
12:11 today, 4th seat,
12:12 and yesterday, I won,
12:14 and I can say,
12:15 in the remaining 3 seats,
12:16 if I see,
12:17 the way I am feeling,
12:18 the enthusiasm,
12:20 in UP,
12:21 52 to 58 seats,
12:23 definitely,
12:24 India Gadbandhan is winning.
12:26 And if we talk about the whole of India,
12:28 there is a rapid change,
12:29 that is to be guessed,
12:30 because,
12:31 it is to be guessed this way,
12:32 but there is a rapid change in the country,
12:33 and with a heavy weight,
12:34 Gadbandhan is going to make its government.
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