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Video Information: Samvaad Session, 31.3.15, Gurgaon, Haryana, India

Context:
~ What is the expectation?
~ How not to feel hurt?
~ How to face challenges in life?
~ How to control thoughts?

Music Credits: Milind Date
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Category

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Learning
Transcript
00:00 Yes.
00:01 So I have a question.
00:02 You talked of the highest level creation or interaction being love, which is basically
00:03 completely forgetting yourself and seeing the other person in you.
00:04 I'd like to ask you that is it really practical in the real world in this ever-growing competition
00:05 between the two?
00:06 Is it really fruitful to completely forget yourself and look at others?
00:34 What's your name?
00:41 Sonakshi.
00:43 Sonakshi.
00:45 At this moment, do you really remember your ankle?
01:07 I remember my shoulder.
01:10 It's hurting.
01:20 I was driving up the hills, riding my bike, it slipped, hit me here, still hurting and
01:30 it is constantly reminding me of itself.
01:36 Does your shoulder remind you of itself?
01:43 What if you have a headache?
01:44 Will the head make its presence felt?
01:49 It would constantly be reminding you of itself.
01:58 You said the third kind of negotiation is about forgetting who you are.
02:02 Do you see when you can forget something?
02:10 You can forget something, especially yourself.
02:14 You can forget yourself only when you are completely healthy.
02:22 What is healthy is forgotten.
02:25 What is sick is remembered.
02:28 Is that not so?
02:31 Is that not so?
02:34 You hurt your ankle and you will remember it very nicely.
02:40 The entire day you will be conscious of it.
02:50 You can forget yourself only when you are totally free of sickness.
03:07 That's not such a bad thing.
03:09 Is it?
03:10 Or is it?
03:11 As I speak to you, I really do not remember anything.
03:30 There is nothing in memory waiting for disclosure.
03:39 There is nothing in the mind squirming to be expressed.
03:50 So I can completely forget everything.
03:57 In fact, you will have to remind me of the time as the last group had to.
04:06 I don't need to remember anything.
04:08 I am alright, peaceful, settled.
04:10 Why do I need to remember anything?
04:12 You are there and I am here and that's sufficient.
04:15 What is the need for memories?
04:18 What is the need for caution?
04:21 You see how this remembering is related to being cautious and suspicious?
04:29 I need to put my ankle down with care and caution.
04:34 Why?
04:36 Because I am sick and the thing hurts.
04:40 If it doesn't hurt, who needs care?
04:46 And isn't that a blessing to be carefree?
04:52 Like a bird.
04:56 Fly anywhere, sit anywhere, sing whatever you want to.
05:03 But no, not at all.
05:07 If the bird were coached that this is an increasingly competitive world, it's good, right?
05:21 That the birds are not coached that way.
05:29 Is it really an increasingly competitive world or was the world always like this?
05:36 Those who had to compete kept competing and those who had to sing, they kept singing.
05:45 The world is not at all a worse place than it ever was.
05:55 Because man's mind is the same.
05:58 We have had instances of wars and violence and pettiness all throughout man's history.
06:05 Kindly do not think that what you are seeing is a new phenomena that all of a sudden we
06:12 all have become corrupt or that debauchery is raining from the skies or that the soil
06:25 is now so infested with fertilizers and pesticides that murderers and rapists are being born
06:36 out of it.
06:37 Nothing like that.
06:39 The world was always like this.
06:42 Mankind has fought thousands of wars.
06:45 Entire populations have been wiped out.
06:55 And man has been autocratic, tyrannical, unjust.
07:04 Sometimes he has exploited on basis of race, sometimes on the basis of gender, nationality,
07:11 religion, economic status.
07:14 People have always been competing.
07:19 What else was colonialism?
07:23 What else was a king fighting against the other?
07:25 Weren't they competing for land?
07:33 What else have been your great epic battles?
07:38 Sometimes fight for land, sometimes fight for power, sometimes fight for respect, sometimes
07:42 fight for women.
07:54 You know of India as having been under the British domination.
08:01 But no, there were a few other countries of Europe as well who were competing to exploit
08:09 India.
08:17 Competition has always been there and wherever there is competition, there is the urge to
08:23 exploit something and there is that inner debauchery, that inner sickness that we talked
08:32 of.
08:36 And parallelly, those who didn't have to compete simply didn't compete.
08:49 There were the saints and the explorers and the scientists who had nothing to do with
08:53 competition.
08:57 They were there 3000 years back, they were there 1000 years back, they were there 300
09:01 years back and they are there even today.
09:07 It's just that what is it that you prefer to see, what is it that you value?
09:13 If you value competition, then all that you will see in the world are competing faces
09:20 and you will say, "Oh see, he is competing, he is competing, he is competing and that
09:24 proves that the world is full of competition".
09:29 But if your mind is peaceful, then you will see settled faces and loving hearts and you
09:40 will say, "See, such a peaceful man and that proves that the world is a peaceful place".
09:49 They are always there parallelly, simultaneously.
09:55 You have had Aurangzeb who is fighting and you have had Abul Aisha parallel to him who
10:05 is singing.
10:10 You have had Nadir Shah and Taimurlal and parallel to them was the Bhakti movement.
10:20 You have had the Crusades in Europe and parallel to them were Newton and Galileo.
10:35 Depends what you prefer to see and remember you will prefer to see what you are.
10:42 If you are competitive, all that you will see is competition.
11:02 So does the ankle hurt?
11:14 What do you remember?
11:17 That is called clarity, to not remember anything.

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