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00:00I am Tahir Ali, I live in Netherlands, close to the village where you visited and had an
00:12observation where you saw 80, 90 years old dancing and singing.
00:18Yes.
00:19So, my question is, I read two books regarding artificial intelligence.
00:28One is Nexus by Yuval Noah Harari and other coming wave by Mustafa Suleiman.
00:35So what they are saying is that the wave of artificial intelligence which we have right
00:42now is something unprecedented and what we are going to face in the future we have never
00:49faced in the past, be it during the industrialization or any other technological events which has
00:55happened.
00:58And with the invent of AGI and ACI, now what we see in Nexus also Yuval Noah Harari mentioned
01:09that in Iran they use the face detection on women to see if the women are wearing hijab
01:16or not, even in the cars.
01:18And if they, through face detection they can identify if someone is not wearing hijab and
01:24then they can find them and if a woman is not wearing for more than two to three times
01:30then they can even jail her.
01:33Also there is drone attacks, drones being used in the warfare, be it in Ukraine or when
01:41Israel is bombing Hamas, Hezbollah or also in Syria.
01:50Also there is a climate change which you keep on talking about.
01:53So these are like two ticking time bombs which is happening simultaneously and I was just
02:00wondering what's there left for the humanity and for us in the future because artificial
02:06intelligence will also be, can only be contained by the big corporates who are creating it
02:15because they have huge amount of data and they are the ones who are investing a lot
02:20in that.
02:21So the regulation has to be self-regulation or through government.
02:26But in developed countries also what we see is that there is a lot of right-wing parties
02:34which are winning and now they are forming governments.
02:38And their main objective is growth and second is to also ensure that our immigration can
02:44be reduced.
02:45So my question is that since now in 2025 when we are going to go into this new year
02:52and anyways climate change is such a big thing and with artificial intelligence, with open
02:58AI bringing out new models every month or quarterly and now the newer model also has
03:06an AGI where it can reason out itself where are we headed to and is there a way to survive
03:14these two onslaughts.
03:15As a common man it will be difficult to hide from AI.
03:36AI depends on big data and the more your patterns are visible to data, to AI, the more
03:54it will be able to predict you and therefore enslave you.
04:01It's going to be very difficult stopping that process.
04:10So flat out the way to not to be enslaved is to not have too many patterns at all.
04:22They will enslave you by knowing your patterns and you cannot hide those patterns now.
04:37Money is bigger than any code of ethics.
04:49You won't purchase something, anything, for no reason they want your phone number.
05:00You ask them why they say no we'll send you an e-bill.
05:05You tell them you don't need a bill at all.
05:08They tell you if you have a bill it will enable you to seek replacements or alterations
05:21or participate in their points program.
05:30Do you think they are so altruistic that they want your phone number so that they can
05:39allot you points?
05:42No, they map your phone number against your shopping behavior.
05:52This phone number has been purchasing this, this, this and this and one purchase may not
05:58mean much but over a period of time across cities, across outlets when everything comes
06:07together, a complete picture of your personality emerges just as the actor is the action, the
06:24chooser is the choice, the observer is the observed, the buyer is the bought.
06:38What you buy tells almost everything about the buyer.
06:53The big data knows you more completely than you know yourself and that will be used to
07:06tempt you, trap you, ensnare you or scare you.
07:15In marketing, you know the fundamental importance of segmentation.
07:30Anything that you want to sell or bring to the other, if not for selling then for other
07:38purposes cannot be bombarded to everybody.
07:47The world is far too big for that.
07:53If you try to offer everything to everybody, the effort, the campaign will be far too expensive.
08:05The world is 8.5 billion people.
08:10So you want to target the right segment.
08:14How to know the right segment?
08:17That's where data comes in.
08:23What does AI do?
08:25It is very good because it works on logic.
08:31It is very good at determining how do the dots connect with each other.
08:42Data is points.
08:45AI is adept at creating a good story using those points and that story is the story of
08:57your life.
08:59The face that emerges when you connect those data points is your face and what's interesting
09:12is that when those points are connected by artificial intelligence, they reveal much
09:21more than what you thought you had exposed.
09:29You tell one thing to this person, one thing to this person, one thing to this person.
09:33You think you have told just three things to three different people.
09:38But if these three data points come to an intelligent thinker, he can take these three
09:46points and infer something that you never wanted to be revealed.
09:56Are you getting it?
10:07Nine a.m. you texted your wife, I am going to the office.
10:14That's fine.
10:19Then you swiped your card in the metro.
10:28The wife doesn't know of it.
10:30That's fine.
10:34Then you went and had lunch somewhere.
10:40The metro doesn't know of it.
10:44Then you went ahead and shopped somewhere.
10:49The eatery doesn't know of it.
10:55Then you booked a cab to drop someone to their place.
11:00The shopping mall doesn't know of it.
11:04But if these six, seven transactions are brought together to an intelligent computer system,
11:15the system will be able to come up with a story that would astonish you.
11:22And you never wanted to expose that story.
11:28A little bit of yourself you had exposed at point one, then at point two, then at point
11:32three, then at point four.
11:33And you thought you were exposing just a little bit of yourself electronically.
11:42Sometimes by writing a mail, sometimes by swiping a card, sometimes through biometrics.
12:00Little bit of your information you are revealing everywhere.
12:02That information comes together to give someone your life story.
12:11And now you can be trapped because everything is related.
12:19Your credit card is mapped to your phone number, is it not?
12:28And everything else on your mobile is talking to everything else.
12:36And the various electronic devices, they too are talking to each other.
12:39So what's on one device gets known to the other device.
12:42Your TV, is it not talking to your mobile phone now?
12:46Even your car is talking to your mobile phone now.
12:48You purchase a modern car.
12:51It comes with an app.
12:54Sitting in London, you can lock your car in Delhi or unlock it or whatever.
13:02So many features are there.
13:09All these apps, they are always asking for permissions.
13:12Can I access your calls?
13:14Now, what does an entertainment app want to access my calls for?
13:26What does Snapchat have to do with my phone calls?
13:30But the app is asking for that.
13:34Can I access all your photos and videos?
13:37Can I access your data, your messages, all the text stored on phone?
13:45And you think it's a small matter, maybe some bogus developer on random over time introduced
13:55these features.
13:56No.
13:57It's all very well thought out.
14:04And not having a mobile phone is not an option.
14:08And it's impossible to control the mechanics and minds of those who are putting these things
14:15at all the electronic places.
14:18So what are you left with?
14:21only option is to live cleanly.
14:31Simplest option.
14:32Nothing hanky-panky.
14:33Take all my data.
14:34My life is like a clean slate.
14:44Now how will you control or arrest me?
14:48This sounds so impractical, no?
14:51We say, no, no, no, we must have private spaces.
14:54Let there be personal life and nobody should be able to intrude into our privacy.
15:00These are good ideals, but who will uphold those ideals?
15:08If oil was gold, big data is diamond and AI is platinum, who's going to stop their greed?
15:20Your ideals?
15:21No.
15:22Moral values don't stand a chance when it comes to money.
15:30So you can keep beating your chest.
15:32No, this is invasion of privacy.
15:34This is that.
15:35This is that.
15:36The privacy will be invaded.
15:40There was this device in my room, the Alexa device and it was always on.
15:53I found it good.
15:57I simply had to command it, say something and it would play the song and also provide
16:04me information.
16:10One of my batchmates visited me.
16:12He said, you see this device is always plugged and always switched on.
16:18When you say something, it responds, right?
16:23So he said, what do you think?
16:27It is hearing you only when you are talking to it.
16:33In your room, it is switched on all the time, which means it is listening to you all the time.
16:48I said, fine.
16:49He said, not fine.
16:51I'm not sure where that device is now.
16:53Maybe he took it away.
16:57If someone can make money out of recording one of your conversations, he will.
17:07Wishful thinking won't work.
17:18If you have any cracks, any chinks in your armor, they will be exploited.
17:28The only way that remains is to live a life completely naked.
17:36I have nothing to hide.
17:39Now how will you exploit me?
17:44Whatever you had to hide can no more be hidden.
17:50It will be seen.
17:52Technology is monstrous.
17:55Technology is awesomely monstrous.
18:02I admire the way it simply blasts away our defenses.
18:22GPS has become routine now.
18:25When it came for the first time, it struck me.
18:28Somebody knows where I am.
18:30Think of it.
18:34All the time, somebody knows where you are.
18:37And they are constantly asking for more permissions.
18:43They say, we want permission to not just tell you the route, but also store all the routes that you took over the last one year.
18:52So, they will know where you like to go.
18:55What can you hide now?
18:57They know exactly the time you take.
19:01They know your driving style.
19:03They also know what you prefer to purchase.
19:05They also know to whom you gift all your purchases.
19:08What can you hide now?
19:11There is nothing called a personal or a private life.
19:16You cannot keep anything secret.
19:18Not possible.
19:19You can hide it from your parents or spouses.
19:21They are idiots.
19:22But you cannot hide it from AI anymore.
19:33You speak to chat about any topic and it will come up with responses that would astound you.
19:42From where did this machine learn this?
19:48Nothing. From data.
19:51Scattered data, when it is brought to one place and then logically interpreted in light of pre-existing patterns,
20:00it throws up unbelievable insights.
20:06That's what AI is about.
20:17Run if you can.
20:19But you will not be able to hide.
20:24Best thing is to not have anything to hide.
20:30I live a free and open life.
20:32Come and see whatever you have to.
20:34There are no skeletons in the cupboard.
20:36There is nothing to hide.
20:39Come with all your inferences.
20:41None of your inferences can harm me.
20:45Those who have things to hide will be tormented.
20:54Those who are so afraid of the society that they want to do things privately will be exposed.
21:03AI will force you either to accept slavery or to accept total freedom.
21:14The middle path will no longer be available.
21:21If you want to avoid slavery, you will have to accept total freedom.
21:28An innocent life, a life of no guilt, a life where nothing is hidden, a life of total nakedness.
21:43All the time they are watching you and everything is on the web.
21:52All devices are talking to each other.
22:03Fingerprints, CCTVs, you name it.
22:13They know your age, they know your anniversary, they know your medical records as well.
22:19They know the drugs you take.
22:22They know the flowers you like.
22:27They know your body type.
22:29They know your blood group.
22:31They know who you are seeing.
22:35They know you just visited a divorce lawyer.
22:39They target you accordingly.
22:41You won't even know how you have been targeted.
22:44Somebody is looking at you all the time and he is very adept at connecting the dots.
22:55Much of that you think of as advanced level of service that some modern corporation is providing you.
23:21That's not service, that's spying.
23:29Your car is telling you.
23:35I noticed that you recently visited a florist and found the shop closed.
23:45Here are the addresses of a few more florists.
23:49Your car is not supposed to do that but that's what your car is announcing to you.
23:54And the car will be very quickly able to see, map, whose birthday was it on that particular date.
24:11Because the car also has access to your mobile phone records.
24:15Don't you connect your mobile phone to your car?
24:18The car knows you went to the florist.
24:21The car looks at your records.
24:23The car accesses related databases.
24:27The car comes to see this person's birthday.
24:29So he celebrates this person's birthday.
24:31Your car will know more about you than even your parents or friends know about you.
24:40And not only will the car know about your past, the car will be able to predict your future.
24:51Don't be surprised if you approach your car and your car says welcome.
24:56I'll take you to the dentist now.
25:00The car reads your mind.
25:03You'll say wow, that's a great level of service.
25:07The car already knows.
25:09The car doesn't just know.
25:11The car is your driver now.
25:14You are being driven by the car.
25:19The car will tell you someday, I refuse to take you down this road.
25:29With all my intelligence, I know the other destination is better for you.
25:33And you will acquiesce.
25:40You'll be happy.
25:42Of course, the car knows better.
25:44Just as the GPS tells you this route is longer and more time-consuming.
25:48I'm switching you to another route.
25:50Doesn't the GPS do that?
25:52And you happily agree.
25:56Soon the car will also tell you that not only is the route to be changed,
26:02even the destination is to be changed.
26:09Why do you want to go to the library?
26:14Looking at your mood and your patterns, I think you should rather go to the pub.
26:22I'm driving you to the pub now.
26:33What's more, they'll demand more money for a car that has such a feature.
26:41And you'll happily pay up.
26:51Living without secrets.
26:58Living without guilt.
27:01Living without handles that can be exploited.
27:10Only this can save you.
27:14If you can be tempted, you will be.
27:19If you can be threatened, you will be.
27:26An inward innocence, an inward untouchability, that is the only refuge possible.
27:39You want to know all about me? Welcome.
27:43You can take all the data.
27:46And still you won't be able to tempt or threaten me.
27:50That is the only way now to lead a free life.
27:54Which means that wisdom, self-knowledge are going to be your only recourse.
28:08Even now, the things that you think are private are not private.
28:15People know of them.
28:17Just that those who know of them do not want it to be known that they know.
28:22They know.
28:36Somebody gained weight, you know.
28:40And the fellow started receiving messages from a garment chain that sells only X-sized products.
28:55He was surprised.
28:57How did they know that I have gained weight?
28:59That's the extent.
29:01This fellow was not overweight always.
29:06Recently he gained weight and he started receiving messages from a clothing brand that sells only X-sized products.
29:19So this fellow had gone to a dietician, to a doctor and had purchased certain medicines that are probably used to challenge obesity.
29:34And that data reached the garment seller.
29:42It didn't just incidentally reach.
29:48You mentioned climate change.
29:50You know what the relationship between AI and climate change is?
29:53On one hand, the AI engines and big data, they consume tremendous energy.
30:01We talked of the nationally determined contributions, which are the national obligations, the national commitments to reducing the carbon emissions by 2030.
30:14And we said while the Paris Agreement stipulates a 45% reduction in carbon emissions, the NDCs, they target just 2%.
30:25Now even that 2% is not going to be feasible.
30:28In fact, we are going to have an increase in emissions by 2030.
30:34Forget about minus 45%.
30:36It's going to be plus something.
30:38One of the reasons is AI.
30:41I don't exactly remember the statistic, but it was something like one general search on chat consumes as much energy as a 100 watt light bulb consumes for 20 minutes.
31:03So that's 100 watts into 0.33 hours.
31:1033 watt hours.
31:13That kind of energy.
31:14A simple query on any of these AI engines.
31:19I might be wrong.
31:20You can cross check on chat.
31:33So that's one thing.
31:34Second thing is because AI is so smart, so we are now using AI to predict where exactly and how intense the next extreme weather event would be.
31:51We are not using AI to challenge climate change.
31:56We are using it to predict where the next extreme weather event is going to be so that we can prepare in advance.
32:04You see we are smart.
32:12AI is in no way going to help us arrest carbon emissions.
32:18But through all kinds of short term weather models and long term models of climate, you can kind of predict, okay, you are going to have a cyclone here soon.
32:31Or this region is going to have too little rainfall.
32:36So that can be known a few days or months in advance.
32:40So we are so smart.
32:43We are so smart.
32:46We'll prepare for that.
32:54We may want to avoid the obvious fact.
32:57But no amount of intellect or smartness can substitute for simple, honest, naked wisdom.
33:13If you are full of inner ignorance, desires, temptations, jealousy, greed, and all that jazz, there is no way even the most spectacular technology can help you.
33:43Technology is just a tool.
33:47If you are an idiot, you will use that tool to further your idiocy and harm yourself in even deeper ways.
33:58We feel so mesmerized on having a new cutting edge gadget in our hands, don't we?
34:19Just walk into one of these electronic stores and look at the shine on people's faces when they have the latest technology in their hands.
34:38Wow.
34:40God Almighty himself.
34:43This can do this.
34:44This can do that.
34:49This can only do what you, the idiot, will tell it to do.
34:56This can do this.
34:57This can do that.
34:58Yes, obviously.
34:59It can travel faster.
35:00It can calculate faster.
35:03Better resolution.
35:06Higher processing speed.
35:10Bigger storage.
35:11All that is there.
35:12Fine.
35:19But it is a thing in your hands.
35:23If you are not wise, how can you put it to a wise use?
35:30And that's what has happened.
35:32The pace of technological progress has been far, far greater than the pace of inner progress.
35:45So, we are stupid people having very advanced tools with us.
35:55Ideally, external power should be available only to the one who has attained internal maturity.
36:10You know that.
36:11You know that.
36:12And you apply that in your homes, don't you?
36:17You don't give a gun to a 3-year-old.
36:21You don't even allow him to have the TV remote.
36:26You don't want to give a mobile phone to an 8-year-old.
36:29Why?
36:32Because powerful tools can be given only to those who are internally mature.
36:39Now, is mankind internally mature enough to handle all the tremendous technological tools it has created?
36:51No, we are not.
36:55So, AI is great.
36:57But its users are not.
36:58Its users are not.
37:04In a wise man's hands, AI can be put to obviously constructive use, wonderful use.
37:10Unfortunately, most of us are far from being wise.
37:14Therefore, AI will be put only to very, very violent, very destructive use.
37:23You see how nations are afraid of each other?
37:28The US is shivering in its pants.
37:30Oh, China has stolen a march over us in AI.
37:33Now, why are you so afraid?
37:35Because they know that AI in China's hand will be used as a tool of dominance over the US.
37:46Because that's what animals do.
37:49They just try to dominate each other.
37:50Monkeys fighting over a banana.
38:12So, I'm not advising you to be discreet with your data.
38:14I'm not advising you to be discreet with your data.
38:20I'm advising you to be absolutely careless with your data.
38:26Tell them, take whatever information you want to have.
38:31I have nothing to hide.
38:33Irrespective of how careful and how discreet you are, they'll still have all the information.
38:40You cannot hide it now.
38:45Just figure out the number of satellites
38:49that are now capable of intruding even into your bedroom.
39:02I think there is one now that has a sight, a camera resolution so sharp,
39:10it can even read the title of the book lying on your desk from there.
39:18What will you hide now?
39:24You think these walls can save you?
39:27Satellites see through everything.
39:31Many of these targets in Afghanistan and other places, how are they assassinated?
39:36Four of them are having a meeting in one particular room in a house.
39:45And a laser sharp attack happens
39:49that destroys only that particular room, not even the other rooms of the house.
39:56There was this Iranian leader
39:59travelling in a convoy of cars.
40:01Four or five cars.
40:03Only the particular car he was travelling in was struck with a missile.
40:10Next time it would be just that particular seat.
40:13The rest of the car will keep moving.
40:23There is nothing secret or private.
40:27Nothing at all.
40:28You cannot hide.
40:30So best is have nothing to hide.
40:40Don't be afraid of the society.
40:42First thing, don't do anything that must not be done.
40:48Second thing, if you are doing something that you think is right,
40:52then don't hide.
40:54Expose it.
40:56Otherwise, it would be used to blackmail you.
41:00If it is right, why should I hide?
41:03I'll come out.
41:06If you don't come out on your own,
41:10others will expose that and
41:13blackmail you or arm to self.
41:16So, don't do that.
41:17Others will expose that and
41:20blackmail you or arm to self.
41:25I understand that Acharya ji.
41:27One thing I wanted to know, you spoke about on individual level what we can do.
41:31But on the crowd level, I was just thinking,
41:34suppose a very deadly pathogen has been created
41:38which is more potent than COVID
41:41and which can spread faster than COVID as well.
41:45And if it gets in the hand of a terrorist organization
41:49and it starts spreading it across the world,
41:52then what hope do we have?
41:54Or like the OM cult which was in Japan,
41:59they can use anthrax on a drone
42:03and then spread it across in a music event.
42:07They do not want to physically kill you, friend.
42:11They want to enslave you.
42:12Who wants to kill a slave?
42:14A slave is useful.
42:16Why kill someone if he can be enslaved?
42:21Would you rather kill someone or enslave him?
42:25When you enslave him, he becomes useful.
42:28When you kill him,
42:30you are left to take care of the body,
42:33how to dispose of the remains,
42:35how to hide the murder.
42:38It's far better to enslave them.
42:42And what better way to enslave them
42:45than to turn them into your customers?
42:48Why kill them?
42:50Just make them your customers.
42:52They'll keep paying you all their life happily
42:56and also thank you.
43:00Nobody is going to kill you, don't worry.
43:03They'll in fact help you live longer
43:07so that you can keep serving longer as slaves.
43:11Don't worry.
43:15The virus, the pathogen that is being unleashed at us
43:20is not physical.
43:22It is not the coronavirus.
43:27It won't affect your body.
43:29Don't compare it to the anthrax thing.
43:34It is a mental thing.
43:36And therefore, it is not physical.
43:38It is a mental thing.
43:40And therefore, it has to be fought at the mental level.
43:43Have something within that is immune to the world.
43:49That is the immunity that you need.
43:52Have something within that the world can never touch.
43:57If the world cannot touch it,
43:59then the world cannot damage it,
44:02co-opt it,
44:04or enslave it.
44:09Don't you see all these big people
44:14are continuously telling you that
44:18you need to increase population?
44:20Do you think they want to kill you?
44:22No.
44:24In fact, they want you to multiply
44:26so that they can have more slaves,
44:29which is more customers.
44:32Why else would a sane person
44:35deny
44:37all the population growth projections
44:40and say that a population collapse is happening?
44:43Where is the collapse, sir?
44:45The world population from 8 billion today is projected
44:49to grow to 11 or 12 billion by the end of the century.
44:53Which collapse are you talking of?
44:56No, no, no, no, no.
44:58It doesn't need to be just 11 or 12 billion.
45:00Which collapse are you talking of?
45:02No, no, no, no, no.
45:04It doesn't need to be just 11 or 12 billion.
45:06It needs to be 15 billion
45:08because that would mean 15 billion slaves.
45:10Come on, come on, multiply
45:12and purchase my products.
45:23Similarly, the politicians want you to multiply.
45:26They won't kill you.
45:28For a manufacturer, you are a customer.
45:31For a politician, you are a voter.
45:35The more you multiply,
45:37the more do their votes.
45:41So vote for me and pay me.
45:44Say the politician and the capitalist
45:47and therefore they want you to multiply.
45:58Have something within that listens to nobody.
46:02Have something within
46:04that listens to nobody of this world.
46:10Have something within
46:13that listens only to that,
46:16that which can have no name,
46:20that which is not an idea or thought,
46:24a concept,
46:25a person,
46:27a belief.
46:30Only that can save you.
46:32Else,
46:34the world will eat you up.
46:45Thank you Acharya Ji.
46:47Welcome.
46:55Thank you Acharya Ji.