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00:00:30Assalam-o-Alaikum, how are you all?
00:00:36How are you?
00:00:37Are you doing well?
00:00:38How are you spending your life?
00:00:40Today, I feel very sorry for myself.
00:00:42I mean, for me or for a generation like me.
00:00:45Because we are that generation
00:00:47who used to be afraid of our parents in our time
00:00:50and now we are afraid of our children in this time.
00:00:53In our time,
00:00:54I mean, don't go too far.
00:00:56Our time is not that old.
00:00:58In our time,
00:01:00our parents used to be strict with us
00:01:03and sometimes, they used to become our friends.
00:01:05But mostly, they kept their discipline and strictness
00:01:08and scared us with their one look
00:01:11that whenever we had to choose a subject
00:01:16or a career,
00:01:17our parents used to interfere a lot.
00:01:20They used to tell us,
00:01:21son, become a doctor, son, become an engineer,
00:01:23son, do teaching, son, do MBA,
00:01:25do this, do that, take this subject
00:01:27and we used to feel that
00:01:29we used to trust them so much
00:01:33that we used to feel that
00:01:34we don't have the strength to decide on our own.
00:01:37And that's why,
00:01:38everything,
00:01:39from my wedding card,
00:01:40to my wedding hall,
00:01:42only the groom was chosen by me.
00:01:45The rest,
00:01:46a lot of people from our generation,
00:01:48before that,
00:01:49the groom used to be chosen by mom and dad
00:01:51and the bride was also chosen by mom and dad.
00:01:53So,
00:01:54nowadays,
00:01:55this generation,
00:01:56the new generation,
00:01:57what do they have to study?
00:01:59What do they have to do?
00:02:00Which university do they have to go to?
00:02:02What clothes do they have to make?
00:02:04Do they have to put sugar in tea?
00:02:06Or do they have to put honey and drink it?
00:02:07Or do they have to light a candle?
00:02:09So,
00:02:10they make all these decisions on their own.
00:02:12Because their parents,
00:02:13not us,
00:02:14I feel,
00:02:15they are Google Baba,
00:02:17Google Father,
00:02:18Insta Mama,
00:02:19they are the ones
00:02:20who follow the same path
00:02:22whatever they see,
00:02:23they follow the same path.
00:02:25Whatever their friends say,
00:02:26they choose the same subjects.
00:02:28They have such a strong mind of their own,
00:02:32which they change every four months.
00:02:34No, now I will do this.
00:02:35No, now I will do that.
00:02:37On which we sometimes get angry,
00:02:39but we have the courage
00:02:41to say something.
00:02:43Yes, yes, no, no.
00:02:44Nowadays,
00:02:45parents should be the friends of their children.
00:02:47Nowadays,
00:02:48parents can't say this,
00:02:49they can't say that.
00:02:51Our father used to show us his eyes.
00:02:55He used to say,
00:02:56we have to go to the washroom twice.
00:02:58I mean,
00:02:59there was so much fear,
00:03:00so much fear,
00:03:01at a certain age,
00:03:02of my father on us.
00:03:03And his father was so scared,
00:03:05that,
00:03:06I have heard,
00:03:07my grandfather used to turn the table in anger.
00:03:10If he used to get angry at something,
00:03:12then the children used to get very scared of him.
00:03:14Similarly,
00:03:15we used to listen to the stories of our father's father.
00:03:17And when we listened to the stories of his father,
00:03:19we saw the strictness.
00:03:20That,
00:03:21mother is strict,
00:03:22father is strict.
00:03:23This strictness is slowly,
00:03:24generation wise,
00:03:25decreasing.
00:03:26Yes,
00:03:27fine.
00:03:28I say that,
00:03:29the age in which our children are,
00:03:30they are very smart.
00:03:31Maybe we were not so smart at that age,
00:03:33but,
00:03:34sometimes I feel that,
00:03:35these people are over smart.
00:03:36So,
00:03:37we are that generation,
00:03:38that we are stuck.
00:03:39We are scared of our parents,
00:03:40we are scared of our children,
00:03:41that the children don't feel bad,
00:03:42that the children don't mind,
00:03:43that the children don't get insulted.
00:03:44Oh,
00:03:45our parents used to put a umbrella in front of their friends,
00:03:48used to talk in front of their friends,
00:03:49guests used to come,
00:03:50used to keep quiet there.
00:03:51Do we have the courage?
00:03:53If we do something,
00:03:55then we get to hear,
00:03:56you have insulted me.
00:03:58You should not have said this in front of anyone.
00:04:01So,
00:04:02children have come to know their rights more than necessary.
00:04:04And,
00:04:05that is why,
00:04:07it has become very difficult to handle.
00:04:10Especially,
00:04:11so many researchers have come nowadays,
00:04:13they say that in teenage,
00:04:14such hormones are released,
00:04:15that children themselves get so disturbed,
00:04:17they don't understand,
00:04:18that what should they do with their life.
00:04:20So, parents should do like this,
00:04:22should do like that.
00:04:23So, many more people,
00:04:24come to do schooling,
00:04:26that raise children like this,
00:04:27raise them like this,
00:04:28raise them like this.
00:04:29So many guests come to me,
00:04:31and they tell me,
00:04:33that children have become like this now.
00:04:35If they are grandparents or grandparents,
00:04:37they say,
00:04:38we raised our children like this,
00:04:39but our children are raising their children like this,
00:04:42that we are worried.
00:04:43They have only two children,
00:04:44but still,
00:04:45they are crazy,
00:04:46in Sindhi,
00:04:47they say,
00:04:48they are crazy to raise them.
00:04:50And,
00:04:51we have 8, 8, 9, 9 children,
00:04:52that is why,
00:04:53nowadays,
00:04:54people don't have many children,
00:04:55that they will really become crazy.
00:04:56Otherwise,
00:04:57our uncle,
00:04:58was one,
00:04:59and aunt was eight,
00:05:00nine,
00:05:01father also had five,
00:05:02six siblings,
00:05:03and in that generation,
00:05:04if they go up,
00:05:05then being less than twelve,
00:05:06means,
00:05:07it was considered an insult.
00:05:08Isn't it?
00:05:09Today,
00:05:10my two guests,
00:05:11I have to ask them,
00:05:13I have to talk to them,
00:05:14because,
00:05:15there are two different generations,
00:05:16father and son.
00:05:17So,
00:05:18I have to ask them,
00:05:19that,
00:05:20how did they maintain
00:05:21their relationship
00:05:22with each other?
00:05:23And,
00:05:24I have heard,
00:05:25that,
00:05:26even though,
00:05:27this is an old generation,
00:05:28still,
00:05:29they have been
00:05:30very friendly fathers.
00:05:31So,
00:05:32how,
00:05:33what,
00:05:34how should we maintain it now?
00:05:35All these parents,
00:05:36who,
00:05:37along with me,
00:05:38are going through
00:05:39that time period,
00:05:40that,
00:05:41how do we
00:05:42how do we
00:05:43raise our children?
00:05:44We are very
00:05:45confused.
00:05:46So,
00:05:47we will remove our
00:05:48confusion,
00:05:49because,
00:05:50different schools of thought
00:05:51come in front of you.
00:05:52Today,
00:05:53I am talking a lot
00:05:54about raising children.
00:05:55When it touches
00:05:56your heart,
00:05:57then it comes
00:05:58to your tongue.
00:05:59After a short break,
00:06:00we will meet you,
00:06:01and we will also
00:06:02meet our guests.
00:06:03We will give you
00:06:04a chance to listen
00:06:05to an amazing
00:06:06kind of interview.
00:06:07So,
00:06:08you have to stay
00:06:09with us.
00:06:10I know,
00:06:11we will meet you
00:06:12in a short while.
00:06:18Welcome,
00:06:19welcome back.
00:06:20And,
00:06:21today's guests,
00:06:22I am very
00:06:23excited myself,
00:06:24because,
00:06:25I have never
00:06:26interviewed them.
00:06:27What a coincidence!
00:06:28It's been so many years.
00:06:29I have seen their
00:06:30dramas a lot.
00:06:31I have admired them a lot.
00:06:32Both father and son,
00:06:33whenever I saw them
00:06:34in dramas,
00:06:35and I have also
00:06:36got a chance to
00:06:37learn a lot from their
00:06:38acting.
00:06:39But,
00:06:40what a coincidence
00:06:41that I never
00:06:42got a chance
00:06:43to interview them.
00:06:44So,
00:06:45today,
00:06:46these two
00:06:47are in front of me,
00:06:48and we will
00:06:49talk to them
00:06:50openly.
00:06:51But,
00:06:52before that,
00:06:53they have given
00:06:54so much to the
00:06:55industry.
00:06:56So,
00:06:57about them,
00:06:58how long
00:06:59they have been
00:07:00working for the
00:07:01industry,
00:07:02it is very important
00:07:03to tell everyone.
00:07:04So,
00:07:05we have made
00:07:06a lovely package.
00:07:07Come,
00:07:08let's show you.
00:07:09Their entertainment
00:07:10services for the
00:07:11industry.
00:07:39So,
00:07:40let's
00:07:41start.
00:07:42So,
00:07:43they
00:07:44have
00:07:45given
00:07:46so much
00:07:47to the
00:07:48industry.
00:07:49So,
00:07:50we have
00:07:51made
00:07:52a lovely
00:07:53package.
00:07:54Come,
00:07:55let's
00:07:56show you.
00:07:57So,
00:07:58their
00:07:59entertainment
00:08:00services for
00:08:01the
00:08:02industry.
00:08:03Come,
00:08:04let's
00:08:05show you.
00:08:06So,
00:08:07their
00:08:08entertainment
00:08:09services for
00:08:10the
00:08:11industry.
00:08:12So,
00:08:13let's
00:08:14start.
00:08:15So,
00:08:16they
00:08:17have
00:08:18given
00:08:19so much
00:08:20to the
00:08:21industry.
00:08:22So,
00:08:23let's
00:08:24start.
00:08:25So,
00:08:26they
00:08:27have
00:08:28given
00:08:29so much
00:08:30to the
00:08:31industry.
00:08:32So,
00:08:33let's
00:08:34start.
00:08:35So,
00:08:36they
00:08:37have
00:08:38given
00:08:39so much
00:08:40to the
00:08:41industry.
00:08:42So,
00:08:43let's
00:08:44start.
00:08:45So,
00:08:46their
00:08:47entertainment
00:08:48services for
00:08:49the
00:08:50industry.
00:08:51So,
00:08:52let's
00:08:53start.
00:08:54So,
00:08:55their
00:08:56entertainment
00:08:57services for
00:08:58the
00:08:59industry.
00:09:00So,
00:09:01let's
00:09:02start.
00:09:03So,
00:09:04they
00:09:05have
00:09:06Yes, it's not easy, but it's fun to see people,
00:09:09that a lot of people, who are often seen giving less interviews,
00:09:13want to know about them, our people.
00:09:15And when we were doing your research,
00:09:18we realized that they have done so much work.
00:09:22So many good, I mean, if I say Alhamra,
00:09:26no one knows about it, that its foundation, basically,
00:09:30you laid the foundation, its administration,
00:09:33and everything, its structure, everything.
00:09:35So when I was doing my research, I was so surprised,
00:09:37I said, we didn't know about this.
00:09:39You were absolutely right about Harfan Maula in this package.
00:09:42I was also thinking that Abba is quite a,
00:09:45you know, a jack of all trades, no,
00:09:47master of all trades.
00:09:50Because the things he goes into,
00:09:53he works with a lot of attention and a lot of effort.
00:09:56Because I used to think that he does such good acting,
00:09:59but he gives less time to acting.
00:10:02He chooses less projects.
00:10:04He chooses good projects.
00:10:06So the rest of the time, he's behind the camera,
00:10:09in the theater, he's writing books.
00:10:13So so many things, how can a single person do all this?
00:10:17We get tired of doing the same thing.
00:10:20Tell us how he does it.
00:10:22Look.
00:10:24We'll start from there, from your journey.
00:10:26How did you choose this field?
00:10:28Then I'll come to Ali.
00:10:30Okay.
00:10:31You start with Abba.
00:10:32We'll go into flashbacks.
00:10:34This is your,
00:10:35I mean, this is your first interview with me.
00:10:37Why not?
00:10:38Why not?
00:10:39Nida, I didn't have a conscious decision.
00:10:42Okay.
00:10:43I had a passion.
00:10:45Hmm.
00:10:45Which in college,
00:10:48made me lose my mind.
00:10:50Mind?
00:10:50Ha ha ha ha.
00:10:52The passion.
00:10:53What were you studying in college?
00:10:54I was doing a BSc in government college.
00:10:58Physics and mathematics.
00:10:59Oh my God!
00:11:00I've also studied physics.
00:11:02Ha ha ha ha.
00:11:03Thank God, it ends in school.
00:11:05At that time, I had given my parents this,
00:11:08sorry,
00:11:09idea that I'll do a BSc and go into engineering.
00:11:12Oh ho, oh ho.
00:11:13So.
00:11:14Did your parents force you to do this?
00:11:17Look.
00:11:17Because the rest of the siblings.
00:11:19My mother was the first female lady doctor in this subcontinent.
00:11:26Oh my God!
00:11:28And my father was a very learned man.
00:11:32He was an inspector of schools.
00:11:35Oh.
00:11:36So, he thought that I'll get into some academic work.
00:11:41Yes.
00:11:42I'll become an engineer, a doctor.
00:11:43There's an atmosphere of study in the house.
00:11:44Hmm.
00:11:45Yes.
00:11:46So, I said that I was crazy.
00:11:49I went to government college.
00:11:50I saw that there was a lot of discussion about drama.
00:11:53There was a drama in English.
00:11:54Yes.
00:11:55So, we started a movement that there should be a drama in Urdu.
00:11:57Okay.
00:11:58Okay.
00:11:59We were boycotted.
00:12:01Yes.
00:12:02Because English people had a lot of control.
00:12:03With great difficulty, we got a chance to do a drama in Urdu.
00:12:07Great.
00:12:08Okay.
00:12:09When we got it, I wasn't getting any part.
00:12:13Yes.
00:12:14And you wanted me to play the role of a hero?
00:12:16No.
00:12:17Finally, by the grace of God, we got a single entry of a barry.
00:12:22Oh my God!
00:12:24And did you write the drama?
00:12:25No, the drama was of Nikolai Gogol.
00:12:28And the inspector.
00:12:30His translation was done in Urdu.
00:12:31Yes, his translation was done in Urdu.
00:12:34Nikolai Gogol's government inspector.
00:12:37Okay.
00:12:38Government inspector.
00:12:38Okay.
00:12:39Now, I was fortunate that the inspector exploits people in the village.
00:12:49Okay.
00:12:49He takes bribes for free, eats food, and has dinner.
00:12:53This barry takes him for breakfast.
00:12:57Hmm.
00:12:59So, he takes him for breakfast and asks him to pay the bill.
00:13:03Hmm.
00:13:04He says, let's go.
00:13:05He says, pay the bill.
00:13:06Now, when this barry got stuck, people started clapping.
00:13:11You said, I should act like this in whatever role I get.
00:13:15No, I did it instinctively.
00:13:17Okay, like this.
00:13:18Yes, that I have brought the bill.
00:13:19Give me the bill.
00:13:20Yes.
00:13:20Okay, people saw that every person gets stuck.
00:13:23Who is this who doesn't get stuck?
00:13:24Yes.
00:13:26It so happened that the next day, I didn't have my picture in the newspaper like the leaders.
00:13:32Mashallah.
00:13:36So, this interest increased.
00:13:39Then how did you get permission from your parents?
00:13:41How did you dare to go to the doctor and ask?
00:13:45At that time, she was not a mother, she was a doctor.
00:13:48How did you get permission?
00:13:49I took a roundabout way.
00:13:51The same roundabout way that I will do engineering.
00:13:53I did this.
00:13:54After that, they said, where do you want to go?
00:13:57I said, I thought I would do medical.
00:13:59Then I started studying the subject of bodily zoology.
00:14:02I qualified that too.
00:14:04Oh my God.
00:14:06When that was done, then they were disappointed with me.
00:14:10I said, I want to do MS psychology.
00:14:13If you want, I can become a psychoanalyst.
00:14:15Tell me, how many siblings did you have?
00:14:17How many siblings and what all did they do?
00:14:19I had one sister.
00:14:21She passed away three years ago.
00:14:24She was a doctor.
00:14:26My elder brother, Dr. Naseem.
00:14:29He was also a doctor.
00:14:31He was also a doctor.
00:14:32My aunt was also a doctor.
00:14:34All the houses were full of doctors.
00:14:36You said, I will become a doctor in Dhamma.
00:14:38Or an engineer.
00:14:40I said, there is no scope for getting sick here.
00:14:43What do I do being a doctor?
00:14:46Then I did my MA in psychology.
00:14:49When I did my MA in psychology,
00:14:52my relationship with Yasmeen started to develop.
00:14:59But till then you were doing theatre.
00:15:02You were doing theatre of that character.
00:15:06It happened so that
00:15:08finally we were successful in this thing.
00:15:11That the final play of Government College
00:15:14which was a big thing,
00:15:16it will be in Urdu.
00:15:18We have reached here.
00:15:20You said you have come on the story of Yasmeen.
00:15:23I am coming on that.
00:15:25Siraj-ud-Din, our principal,
00:15:30he appointed me.
00:15:32He said, we cannot do the script till
00:15:35you show it to Syed Imtiaz Ali Taaj
00:15:38and he will approve it.
00:15:40So I went to Syed Imtiaz Ali Taaj's house.
00:15:44He came and said, you can make some ideas yourself.
00:15:50Syed Imtiaz Ali Taaj is your father-in-law
00:15:53and Yasmeen's father.
00:15:56So when you reached there,
00:15:58did you meet Yasmeen?
00:16:00No, I didn't meet Yasmeen.
00:16:02I think you have heard the whole story.
00:16:06Because I used to do drama,
00:16:11I was very famous on radio.
00:16:13Did you go to your father-in-law's house
00:16:17when your father-in-law was not there?
00:16:19Yes, I had become famous.
00:16:21So,
00:16:23I
00:16:27used to get a lot of calls from girls.
00:16:31And I used to waste time.
00:16:33To befriend us.
00:16:35Yes, I will call you,
00:16:37I didn't call, I am waiting for no reason.
00:16:39In the meantime,
00:16:41I got a call
00:16:45which was not in voice,
00:16:47it was in whispers.
00:16:49Hello!
00:16:53I said, this is something different.
00:16:58You also answered?
00:17:02No, I used to speak in voice.
00:17:04Later, I also started it.
00:17:06Because we used to talk all night.
00:17:08Yes.
00:17:10Was that whisper
00:17:12your father-in-law's voice?
00:17:14Yes, yes.
00:17:16At first, I didn't even recognize her.
00:17:18I was also confused.
00:17:20I am such and such girl.
00:17:22After a long time,
00:17:24she said,
00:17:26I said, you are not what you are saying.
00:17:30She said, how do you know?
00:17:32I said, I know.
00:17:34Then, who am I?
00:17:36She said, you are Yasmeen.
00:17:38Oh my God!
00:17:40You said it?
00:17:42Yes, the phone fell on her hand.
00:17:44Oh my God!
00:17:46After that, gradually,
00:17:48Mr. Taj and Hijaab
00:17:50were very nice people.
00:17:52And they liked me
00:17:54because they had a passion for their theatre.
00:17:56They said, what kind of passion is this?
00:17:58They made me the drama in-charge
00:18:00in the Arts Council.
00:18:02Oh, I see.
00:18:05Then, we started
00:18:07a drama from there.
00:18:09So, you basically
00:18:11introduced the theatre to people.
00:18:13Yes.
00:18:15So, you met your wife.
00:18:17Basically, you met your wife
00:18:19and entered the theatre.
00:18:21Yes.
00:18:23Then, we started writing the drama together.
00:18:25Both husband and wife?
00:18:27Yes.
00:18:29What was her qualification?
00:18:31She was in the final year of MA English.
00:18:33Oh, I see.
00:18:35So, she was also a good writer?
00:18:37Yes, she was a good writer.
00:18:39There was a literary environment at home.
00:18:41Yes, there was.
00:18:43Her father was also a writer.
00:18:45Her parents were also writers.
00:18:47So, I think there was a little streak
00:18:49between them.
00:18:51Mr. Taj had a very big library
00:18:53of successful English dramas.
00:18:55We all used to read them.
00:18:57We used to get inspiration from there.
00:18:59Oh, I see.
00:19:01Mr. Taj's father
00:19:03has such a big name
00:19:05in Urdu literature.
00:19:07So, did he correct your mistakes
00:19:09when you both used to write dramas?
00:19:11Because a father-in-law and son-in-law
00:19:13have a very delicate relationship.
00:19:15Yes.
00:19:17This is also a joke.
00:19:19Yes.
00:19:21When Yasmin and I
00:19:23wrote 3-4 dramas,
00:19:25he was always happy
00:19:27that we were doing a good job.
00:19:29Finally, Yasmin and I
00:19:31selected a drama
00:19:33and Yasmin agreed to it.
00:19:35It was a drama
00:19:37of Broadway.
00:19:39No, not Broadway.
00:19:41It was a drama of West End.
00:19:43She Stoops to Conquer.
00:19:45No, sorry.
00:19:47See How They Run.
00:19:49So, I said, I will do this.
00:19:51Let's adapt this.
00:19:53We started adapting it.
00:19:55When Mr. Taj read it,
00:19:57he said,
00:19:59this boy has become over-ambitious.
00:20:01All his dramas have been successful.
00:20:03All his reputation will be ruined.
00:20:05Oh, he stopped you there.
00:20:07He stopped me there.
00:20:09What was there in that drama?
00:20:11I didn't hear.
00:20:13Was the rating story there?
00:20:15No, it was a fast-paced play.
00:20:17Especially considering
00:20:19that you are talking about 60s.
00:20:21At that time,
00:20:23such a fast-paced play
00:20:26looks very contemporary.
00:20:28It was a bit ahead of its time.
00:20:30Yes, it was a bit ahead of its time.
00:20:32It was a bit modern.
00:20:34Before that,
00:20:36you can see that Bernard Shaw
00:20:38and all these were dialogue plays.
00:20:40This was an action play.
00:20:42I visualized its action.
00:20:44Like you like today's generation.
00:20:46Yes, it is contemporary.
00:20:48I did 100 performances on its stage.
00:20:50Were you married at that time?
00:20:52Or was it a period of romance?
00:20:54It was a period of romance.
00:20:56Did your father-in-law know
00:20:58that there was something fishy?
00:21:00Actually,
00:21:02this secret was revealed
00:21:04in the 60s.
00:21:06And my mother
00:21:08proposed to him.
00:21:10I didn't have a job.
00:21:12So,
00:21:14How did you convince your mother?
00:21:16She was dreaming of becoming
00:21:18a doctor and an engineer.
00:21:20Her family was full of doctors and engineers.
00:21:22What about the theatre?
00:21:24I was the youngest in the family.
00:21:26I was their favourite.
00:21:28So, I used to blackmail them.
00:21:30Oh, God!
00:21:32So, your daughter-in-law will also come
00:21:34from the theatre field.
00:21:36Yes, it is amazing.
00:21:38A few days ago,
00:21:40I was asking them.
00:21:42Didn't they find it strange?
00:21:44They were a family of doctors.
00:21:46In those days,
00:21:48acting and theatre was a new concept.
00:21:50Exactly!
00:21:52But, apparently,
00:21:54there was hardly any resistance.
00:21:56There was no social barrier.
00:21:58They were giving people.
00:22:00No, there was a social barrier.
00:22:02Oh!
00:22:04Because there were many proposals for Yasmeen.
00:22:06And you didn't have a job.
00:22:08Yes, I didn't have a job.
00:22:10And your wife was getting proposals.
00:22:12After the break,
00:22:14let's see how her parents met.
00:22:16We will come back to your story
00:22:18after a short break.
00:22:24Welcome!
00:22:26Today, we have Naeem Tahir
00:22:28and Ali Tahir.
00:22:30We have reached the point
00:22:32of how Ali's parents met.
00:22:34Ali is listening.
00:22:36He is also enjoying.
00:22:38During the break,
00:22:40I was telling him that
00:22:42whenever I listen to my parents' story,
00:22:44even if it is the 14th time,
00:22:47I will listen to it.
00:22:49So, we were saying
00:22:51that there was no social barrier.
00:22:53You were hopeful of a social barrier.
00:22:55But, nothing happened
00:22:57because you wanted to meet.
00:22:59There were many proposals.
00:23:01Yasmeen said that she will have to do something.
00:23:03She should get a job.
00:23:05I was preparing for the civil service exam.
00:23:07Oh!
00:23:09I was saying that
00:23:11I don't know when it will happen.
00:23:13There is a lot of pressure.
00:23:15I don't want to disappoint anyone.
00:23:17There were many good people coming.
00:23:19It was written in the newspaper
00:23:21by Habib Insurance
00:23:23that he is doing
00:23:25a competition exam.
00:23:27Oh!
00:23:29So, why don't you see him?
00:23:31Yes.
00:23:33I didn't have a choice.
00:23:35I sat for the exam.
00:23:37Two civil service examiners
00:23:39also sat with me.
00:23:41I was lucky
00:23:43that I came first.
00:23:45Oh!
00:23:47That's why you didn't come first.
00:23:49You came because
00:23:51you wanted to meet Yasmeen.
00:23:53Yes.
00:23:55I came first.
00:23:57After that,
00:23:59I was sent to Karachi
00:24:01for training.
00:24:03I topped
00:24:05all those who came from Pakistan.
00:24:07Oh!
00:24:09Now, you can ask for proposals easily.
00:24:11He said that
00:24:13he will appoint her
00:24:15as a branch manager
00:24:17in Islamabad.
00:24:19Now, I am an officer.
00:24:21Oh!
00:24:23Now, it was possible.
00:24:25That's why she went to ask for a proposal.
00:24:27You all made an effort.
00:24:29Yes, we did.
00:24:31If you kept topping,
00:24:33you would have failed.
00:24:35How would it have been?
00:24:37Yasmeen never acted.
00:24:39She always did.
00:24:41In theatre?
00:24:43In all my plays
00:24:45and serials.
00:24:47In your history,
00:24:49she was the only woman
00:24:51who did 100 performances.
00:24:53She did it on stage and also on television.
00:24:55Mom, because
00:24:57she is more known
00:24:59as a radio voice.
00:25:01Yes.
00:25:03Sitara Imtiaz is also known
00:25:05as a radio voice.
00:25:08If my team has
00:25:10a picture,
00:25:12I would like to share it with the audience.
00:25:14It is a recap.
00:25:16So, my team should show that picture.
00:25:18Sure.
00:25:20Mom was a broadcaster.
00:25:22Since she completed
00:25:24her MA,
00:25:26right from the next day,
00:25:28she started working for radio.
00:25:30She worked for 40 years.
00:25:32She has done many iconic programs.
00:25:34In which,
00:25:36there is a call-in show.
00:25:38It was called 52292.
00:25:40Yes.
00:25:42That was the name of the show.
00:25:44She also did a western music program.
00:25:46Because of her mother's English,
00:25:48her tone and voice are very beautiful.
00:25:50Very good.
00:25:52She also did many shows in Urdu.
00:25:54You know, when we were young,
00:25:56when you used to come for dramas,
00:25:58most of the time, you used to be with Seemi Raheel.
00:26:00We used to think
00:26:02that they are a couple.
00:26:04Yes.
00:26:06After a long time,
00:26:08I realized that it is a drama.
00:26:10It is a drama.
00:26:12Your dramas were very famous.
00:26:14Yes.
00:26:16When we came to Urdu,
00:26:18we used to watch it like this.
00:26:20I had no idea.
00:26:22Like me, many people used to think like this.
00:26:24I am sure they do.
00:26:26It is visible on the screen.
00:26:28Exactly.
00:26:30People think it is real.
00:26:32Yes.
00:26:34When you come as a couple,
00:26:36people think it is real.
00:26:38Yes.
00:26:40How many children do you have?
00:26:42Apart from Ali, how many siblings do you have?
00:26:44Look,
00:26:46we had
00:26:48a wish
00:26:50to have a daughter.
00:26:52We have three sons now.
00:26:54You have three sons and no daughters.
00:26:56No daughters.
00:26:58We have daughters now.
00:27:00Yes.
00:27:02Tell us about
00:27:04all the brothers.
00:27:06You are in this field.
00:27:08Direction, writing, acting.
00:27:10What about the other brothers?
00:27:12I have two older brothers.
00:27:14One is Farhan.
00:27:16He is
00:27:18the only Pakistani actor
00:27:20who works in mainstream Hollywood.
00:27:22I know him.
00:27:24He was also in the field of acting.
00:27:26I just remembered
00:27:29he is also your son.
00:27:31I just remembered.
00:27:33He has acted in many films.
00:27:35Iron Man, Star Trek, Elysium,
00:27:37Charlie Wilson's War.
00:27:39If you open
00:27:41his IMD,
00:27:43you will know him.
00:27:45He has done a lot of work.
00:27:47His pictures were viral
00:27:49on social media.
00:27:51There is a recap because of him.
00:27:53He is an international actor.
00:27:55He lives
00:27:57in America.
00:27:59Did he go to study in America
00:28:01or did you shift?
00:28:03He went to study.
00:28:05His background
00:28:07is that
00:28:09Farhan
00:28:11is a very
00:28:13bold boy.
00:28:15He was the head of scouts.
00:28:17He joined FC College.
00:28:19He was born in America.
00:28:21All three of them
00:28:23were born in America?
00:28:25Only Farhan.
00:28:27Why did you favor him?
00:28:29You have told
00:28:31so many stories.
00:28:33I am ready to tell
00:28:35all of them.
00:28:37I used to
00:28:39write for BBC.
00:28:41I was crazy about it.
00:28:43I used to do
00:28:45whatever I could.
00:28:47One day
00:28:49I got a call
00:28:51from Rockefeller Foundation.
00:28:53His name was Robert Crawford.
00:28:55Within 4 years
00:28:57he gave
00:28:59a scholarship
00:29:01to one person
00:29:03from Asia.
00:29:05He is looking for
00:29:07that one person.
00:29:09He has been to Japan,
00:29:11India and many other places.
00:29:13I wanted him to give
00:29:15an interview.
00:29:17I went
00:29:19and gave the interview.
00:29:21He said,
00:29:23which subject would you like to do?
00:29:25I was
00:29:27very surprised.
00:29:29I said, I want to do theater.
00:29:31He said, really?
00:29:33Because usually
00:29:35in medicine, accounts,
00:29:37engineering, etc.
00:29:39He said, he is a strange boy.
00:29:41I left.
00:29:43Our marriage was fixed.
00:29:45Was your wife
00:29:47lucky for you?
00:29:50Did you ever
00:29:52praise her?
00:29:54You are God for me.
00:29:56You brought me wealth.
00:29:58Completely.
00:30:00God bless her.
00:30:06One day
00:30:08our marriage was fixed.
00:30:10March 24th.
00:30:12Our marriage was fixed.
00:30:16I got a telegram from there.
00:30:18You are selected.
00:30:20One man in Asia.
00:30:22You said,
00:30:24you will do honeymoon there.
00:30:26No, I replied.
00:30:28You refused?
00:30:30I said, I am getting married.
00:30:32My wife is here.
00:30:34I can't leave her.
00:30:36I met her with great difficulty.
00:30:38I did everything for her.
00:30:40Listen to their reply.
00:30:42I said, give this scholarship
00:30:44to someone else.
00:30:46This is non-transferable.
00:30:48This is for one man in Asia
00:30:50and you are the one.
00:30:52If you don't take it,
00:30:54it will be wasted.
00:30:56We can help you
00:30:58by extending this scholarship
00:31:00for your wife.
00:31:02Wow!
00:31:04I am thinking
00:31:06that he got a lot of things
00:31:08in his journey.
00:31:10He did a lot of hard work.
00:31:12Then we both left.
00:31:14You are very lucky.
00:31:16I was lucky.
00:31:18I heard that when I did
00:31:20your research,
00:31:22your wife didn't want
00:31:24children to come to this field.
00:31:26She thought they will go far.
00:31:28Why did she think so?
00:31:30To be honest,
00:31:32she never had any objection
00:31:34to come to this field.
00:31:36Because she was from this field.
00:31:38What was her wish?
00:31:40She wanted to go to America.
00:31:42She was very attached
00:31:44to Farhan and Mehran.
00:31:46Farhan is the eldest.
00:31:48Then Mehran.
00:31:50And then your younger brother.
00:31:52She was worried
00:31:54about this distance.
00:31:56I remember when
00:31:58Mehran went to America
00:32:00for the first time.
00:32:02Because he also studied in America.
00:32:04When he went,
00:32:06mother fainted.
00:32:08There was a drama at the airport
00:32:11that he was taken to the hospital
00:32:13and beaten up.
00:32:15That is what happened
00:32:17in her mind.
00:32:19It was difficult for her
00:32:21to feel separation.
00:32:23But
00:32:25Allah
00:32:27has made time
00:32:29to get used to things.
00:32:31Exactly.
00:32:33I was there.
00:32:35You always stayed here in Pakistan.
00:32:37Listen to her story.
00:32:39I was a villain
00:32:41who was sending the kids abroad.
00:32:43What?
00:32:45I was a villain
00:32:47who was sending the kids abroad.
00:32:49She is talking from the point of view of Amri.
00:32:51I thought if I send one,
00:32:53the other will say thank you.
00:32:55So I got them admitted.
00:32:57Okay.
00:32:59They were admitted.
00:33:01Did you like it?
00:33:03Or was it your father's wish?
00:33:05All the brothers were going.
00:33:07In youth,
00:33:09you have to listen.
00:33:11In our generation,
00:33:13we used to listen.
00:33:15We used to listen a lot.
00:33:17We did what our parents told us to do.
00:33:19Our children
00:33:21don't listen.
00:33:23They are aware.
00:33:25They have more information than us.
00:33:27We used to listen less.
00:33:29We used to listen less.
00:33:31We used to listen less.
00:33:33We used to listen less.
00:33:35Yes.
00:33:37Then what happened?
00:33:39We were sitting at the dining table.
00:33:41She had to leave next morning.
00:33:43She was quiet.
00:33:45Both the elders
00:33:47were out.
00:33:49She was the only support
00:33:51for their old age.
00:33:53I, Yasmeen and her were sitting.
00:33:55Yasmeen looked at them and said
00:33:57Ali, now even you
00:33:59will leave.
00:34:01I don't know what
00:34:03to do.
00:34:05We were sad.
00:34:07He left quietly.
00:34:09He returned the ticket.
00:34:11He said he won't go.
00:34:13Seriously?
00:34:15I stayed.
00:34:17I don't feel sad about it.
00:34:19I don't like it.
00:34:21It's good you didn't study in America.
00:34:23I didn't want to make a nuclear bomb
00:34:25which I couldn't make here.
00:34:27Exactly.
00:34:29I never felt bad about it.
00:34:32I never felt bad about it.
00:34:34I don't feel that sacrifice.
00:34:36I don't feel that sacrifice.
00:34:38I don't feel America is better
00:34:40than Pakistan.
00:34:42I feel Pakistan is better
00:34:44in many aspects.
00:34:46I felt I can live a better life here.
00:34:48It wasn't a sacrifice.
00:34:50I am very happy.
00:34:52What was your mother's reaction?
00:34:54She was very happy.
00:34:56She was very happy.
00:34:58Do you all live together?
00:35:00We live together.
00:35:02The old age support is still there.
00:35:04God willing, it will continue.
00:35:06He has already admitted it.
00:35:08I asked him why he didn't go.
00:35:10I asked him why he didn't go.
00:35:12He said he couldn't see your face.
00:35:14I was very sad.
00:35:16I was very sad.
00:35:18When Mehran and Farhan left,
00:35:20When Mehran and Farhan left,
00:35:22I saw their sadness.
00:35:24I saw their sadness.
00:35:26Obviously, the dynamics
00:35:28change every year.
00:35:30How was your bond?
00:35:32How was your bond?
00:35:34We were very close.
00:35:36Were you friends?
00:35:38Were you friends?
00:35:40Were you friends?
00:35:42No, we never felt fear.
00:35:44No, we never felt fear.
00:35:46Thank God we are pure.
00:35:48Thank God we are pure.
00:35:50We never felt fear.
00:35:52We never felt fear.
00:35:54What do parents do?
00:35:56and keep the boys in line.
00:36:00It's a big problem.
00:36:01It's not easy to raise boys.
00:36:03Girls are again under control.
00:36:05SHANKAR MAHADEVAN- Yes.
00:36:06The biggest thing for any era is to become prime examples.
00:36:13This is the biggest teaching.
00:36:15Scolding, yelling, and getting slapped,
00:36:17I personally would say it's a sign of ignorance.
00:36:20When you can explain something, when you can talk to a child
00:36:23with love, then why raise your hand?
00:36:25This is the key.
00:36:27If you can deal with a child with love and affection,
00:36:31then he will understand.
00:36:32He will learn very quickly.
00:36:33He will learn very quickly.
00:36:34Sometimes you don't even have to tell him, he will learn.
00:36:37This was very attached to me.
00:36:38There is a famous saying, we make fun of it.
00:36:41Because I used to go to the office, I had an export work.
00:36:45So I had gone to the office, and after two hours,
00:36:49he used to call me.
00:36:52Now he was very young.
00:36:54He called me and said,
00:36:55Dad, I was crying.
00:36:59I was crying.
00:37:01It means that I am sad without you.
00:37:03I used to come and hug him and love him.
00:37:06If you have always done something on your side,
00:37:10then how do you take out the time for acting?
00:37:12Because at that time, you couldn't survive on acting.
00:37:15That has happened now, that you earn so much that you do acting.
00:37:19Yes, absolutely.
00:37:20Look, this has happened for a long time.
00:37:23I will tell you a brief history of this.
00:37:26When we started doing dramas in the Arts Council,
00:37:29it was independent.
00:37:31So one of our dramas was very serious.
00:37:34It was about...
00:37:38It was about a criminal.
00:37:40Okay.
00:37:41It was very serious, and people used to cry in it.
00:37:45It was serious and emotional, right?
00:37:47Yes.
00:37:48When we were about to do it,
00:37:51Ayub Khan's drama called for a martial law.
00:37:54Okay, I see.
00:37:56Everyone said, this is a rebellious drama.
00:38:00Don't do this, you will all be caught.
00:38:01Yes.
00:38:03The Taj Sahib said, the kids have worked so hard.
00:38:06Should I stop them just like that?
00:38:07Yes.
00:38:07Because he was the Secretary General of the Arts Council.
00:38:10Then?
00:38:10He respected all the martial law administrators.
00:38:14He said, all of you come and watch the drama.
00:38:16If you think it is bad, we will not do it.
00:38:19Okay.
00:38:21First, let me pre-censor it.
00:38:23All the martial law administrators and their families came.
00:38:28Now, the drama started.
00:38:33It started.
00:38:34Silence.
00:38:36Such silence,
00:38:38that I don't know if anyone is alive or not in the hall.
00:38:41Yes.
00:38:42As soon as it ended,
00:38:44the applause that started,
00:38:46the applause was not stopping.
00:38:47Yes.
00:38:49Tears were flowing from the eyes of the people.
00:38:51He was so emotional.
00:38:53Yes.
00:38:55So, he said, do it as much as you can.
00:38:58Yes.
00:38:59Anyway, it was successful.
00:39:01Yes.
00:39:01Okay.
00:39:03In the meantime, the Taj Sahib was made the Director of the Board for Advancement of Literature.
00:39:07Faiz Sahib came there.
00:39:09Now, this drama started.
00:39:10Faiz Sahib.
00:39:11Faiz Ahmed Faiz.
00:39:13Faiz Ahmed Faiz.
00:39:13Yes.
00:39:14Faiz Ahmed Faiz Sahib came and the ticket was two rupees.
00:39:17Yes.
00:39:18And that drama was going on.
00:39:19Yes.
00:39:20So, in the middle of the drama, I asked such an accountant,
00:39:23I said, the expense of your council on this,
00:39:26he said, it has been completed.
00:39:27Okay.
00:39:28Oh, oh, oh.
00:39:29I went to Faiz Sahib with a lot of pride.
00:39:32I said, Faiz Sahib,
00:39:34all the expense that the alumni had spent on this drama,
00:39:37it has been completed on the basis of our ticket.
00:39:39Hmm.
00:39:40He said, yes, it is fine.
00:39:42Hmm.
00:39:42He used to speak in a special way.
00:39:44I said, sir, now we,
00:39:47now we have become professionals.
00:39:48Yes.
00:39:48And we will charge you a fee.
00:39:50Oh.
00:39:53So, he smiled and said,
00:39:54okay, what will you charge me?
00:39:58I said, one hundred rupees.
00:40:02Let's ask what happened after the story of one hundred rupees,
00:40:04after a break.
00:40:06Right?
00:40:07Yes.
00:40:13Welcome.
00:40:14Welcome back.
00:40:15And we are listening to a lot of interesting stories.
00:40:18And it is coming from a flashback.
00:40:21I would like to ask Ali,
00:40:22Ali, when,
00:40:24the time when your father has seen,
00:40:26that he used to work on the side,
00:40:28he knew that you cannot rely on this field at that time,
00:40:31to earn money,
00:40:32to run a house,
00:40:34you have three children,
00:40:34and obviously running a house.
00:40:36Absolutely.
00:40:36So,
00:40:37the expenses are not only from now,
00:40:38they are always there.
00:40:39They are always there, yes.
00:40:40So, in this field, how did he,
00:40:42did he not tell you,
00:40:43okay, you also do a job or do something else?
00:40:45I think I am the only one who was told this.
00:40:48Actually, yes.
00:40:49I did my MBA in finance.
00:40:52Okay.
00:40:53And I was working in a bank,
00:40:56during that time,
00:40:56I had already started acting.
00:40:58Okay.
00:40:59And I had done a couple of serials.
00:41:01And at that time, obviously,
00:41:02because it was PTV,
00:41:04so you used to get noticed.
00:41:05Yes.
00:41:06You used to come early.
00:41:07Absolutely.
00:41:07Now, there are so many channels running,
00:41:09if you go to a small channel,
00:41:11it will take a lot of time to build.
00:41:13At that time,
00:41:14you were there.
00:41:15Immediately.
00:41:16So, I started doing that,
00:41:18but I was not doing it professionally.
00:41:20Okay.
00:41:21And when I did banking for five years,
00:41:25and although from the first day,
00:41:26I had an idea that
00:41:27I don't want to do this thing in life.
00:41:29Banking seemed very boring to me.
00:41:32No offence to the bankers,
00:41:33it is good for them,
00:41:35they should do it.
00:41:36I didn't have the aptitude.
00:41:37Yes.
00:41:38So, after five years,
00:41:39I talked to my family,
00:41:40I was also married.
00:41:42And obviously, at that time,
00:41:45there is a decision in life
00:41:47that you should stay in a stable job
00:41:49or you should get into another job.
00:41:53But you get happiness from it.
00:41:54Yes, I get happiness from it.
00:41:55So, my opinion has always been that
00:41:58I should do what my heart wants.
00:41:59Yes.
00:42:00So, I did that.
00:42:01I left the bank job.
00:42:02And you excel in the same thing.
00:42:04I do it in the same thing,
00:42:04obviously,
00:42:05because you do things with passion.
00:42:07So, that's why I started doing it.
00:42:09So, after marriage,
00:42:11you started acting properly.
00:42:13Yes, I did.
00:42:14I started after that.
00:42:15You know,
00:42:16I am acting single-handedly.
00:42:18Yes.
00:42:19I started that in 2003.
00:42:21So, it's been 20-21 years now.
00:42:23But I wasn't doing it before that.
00:42:25When my father told me to leave the bank,
00:42:28he told me that
00:42:30it's a dangerous profession.
00:42:32And it's a risky profession.
00:42:34Not dangerous, but risky.
00:42:35Yes.
00:42:36So, at that time,
00:42:37as you know,
00:42:38the media was growing at that time.
00:42:39Yes.
00:42:40I could see that
00:42:41so many channels were opening up.
00:42:42It's not possible that
00:42:43I am financially in a bad state tomorrow.
00:42:46I should do something appropriate.
00:42:48Yes.
00:42:49So, I kept going according to that expectation.
00:42:52Yes.
00:42:53And I have no regrets.
00:42:55Let me tell you a secret.
00:42:57What is it?
00:42:58You must have read it in my book.
00:43:01I was also in charge of the horse and cattle show.
00:43:03Yes.
00:43:04And I used to create calisthenics in it.
00:43:08Okay.
00:43:09Like choreography.
00:43:11Yes.
00:43:12And like 3,000 children.
00:43:13Yes.
00:43:14They used to make patterns.
00:43:15So, in between,
00:43:17the South Asian Federation Games came.
00:43:20Yes.
00:43:21No one knew how to do it.
00:43:23I was also invited.
00:43:24I did it.
00:43:25Okay.
00:43:26When this happened,
00:43:27we were successful there as well.
00:43:29It was fine.
00:43:30So, when they were working in the bank,
00:43:33I was called to America
00:43:36by the Chief of Army Staff
00:43:38that you should come.
00:43:39He said that he was running a television network.
00:43:41Yes.
00:43:42He said that it was a call.
00:43:43You were running a television network in America.
00:43:45Yes.
00:43:46You were heading it.
00:43:47Yes, I was heading it.
00:43:48I was the Chief Executive.
00:43:49Yes.
00:43:50He said that it was a call of national duty for the country.
00:43:52Yes.
00:43:53Now, this is such a thing
00:43:54that a person gets blackmailed.
00:43:55Yes.
00:43:56I handed it over to someone else.
00:43:58Yes.
00:43:59And I came.
00:44:00So, Yasmeen was also with you in America?
00:44:02Yes, she was with me.
00:44:03And two sons were there?
00:44:04Yes.
00:44:05And Ali was here?
00:44:06Ali was here.
00:44:07Ali, you didn't go.
00:44:08Ali was here.
00:44:09Look at the hijab.
00:44:10Do you see it?
00:44:11The hijab was here.
00:44:12And Wajiha was also here.
00:44:13But he was here for 2-3 years.
00:44:15He was here for 4 years.
00:44:16Okay.
00:44:17I came from there.
00:44:18Yes.
00:44:19Now, one thing that he didn't tell you.
00:44:21What?
00:44:22That this man is a first class dancer.
00:44:25Oh, my God.
00:44:26Yes.
00:44:27He is a top dancer.
00:44:29And in the opening ceremony…
00:44:34Oh, no.
00:44:35We heard.
00:44:36This is the first time I am hearing this from you.
00:44:38He is a top dancer.
00:44:40And he has also learnt from Samrat.
00:44:42Yes.
00:44:43He is a true dancer.
00:44:46And I got him involved with Saif Gims.
00:44:49And his opening show was a dance show.
00:44:52He led in that.
00:44:54And then he did the rest of the choreography.
00:44:58So, I revealed his secret to you.
00:45:02The secret has been revealed.
00:45:03That I am a dancer.
00:45:04No, I am not a great dancer at all.
00:45:07But I do things with my heart.
00:45:10So, if you dance with your heart, it feels good.
00:45:13So, do you perform like this in the theatre?
00:45:16No.
00:45:17Your fans don't know about this talent.
00:45:20No, I never wanted to show it.
00:45:22It is for yourself.
00:45:23I never wanted to show that I can dance well.
00:45:27Yes, if I need a character, I will dance.
00:45:30I would love to.
00:45:31No one knows.
00:45:32Only your friends and people close to you would know.
00:45:35Or if the producer or director knows.
00:45:38I never felt the need to tell.
00:45:40Because my husband, father and mother are all directors.
00:45:45So, when they are casting, there is a discussion.
00:45:49So, when you know about someone's talent,
00:45:52then you consider it.
00:45:53This will suit the character.
00:45:55If someone doesn't know,
00:45:57you look like a serious personality.
00:46:00But you do comedy very well.
00:46:02Because your timing is very good.
00:46:04Thank you so much.
00:46:05Timing is everything in comedy.
00:46:07Exactly, acting is everything.
00:46:09I have never promoted it in dance.
00:46:13I don't like to perform in an award show.
00:46:18I don't personally like it.
00:46:20No, you don't like it.
00:46:22Because people's thinking hasn't changed.
00:46:25That's why you don't like it.
00:46:27No, it doesn't matter to me.
00:46:29People may think it's good or bad.
00:46:31If my heart wants it, then I'll do it.
00:46:33I won't do it because people want me to.
00:46:37If my heart wants it, then I'll do it.
00:46:39But you'll tell me that I should perform in award shows.
00:46:42When you have a talent,
00:46:44you shouldn't hide it from the world.
00:46:46No, it's not about hiding it.
00:46:48Personally, I take it this way.
00:46:50I'm an actor.
00:46:52If I need to dance in a character,
00:46:55I'll do it.
00:46:57But for me, dance is a different art.
00:47:01Singing is a different art.
00:47:03Actors are entertainers in today's world.
00:47:05They're not just actors.
00:47:07I just want to entertain with acting.
00:47:09I don't want to do anything else.
00:47:11Solo is acting.
00:47:13But I don't want to do solo in dance.
00:47:15In a group.
00:47:17Honestly, I don't have a problem with it.
00:47:19I'm alone.
00:47:21It doesn't matter to me.
00:47:23You say if there's a demand for a character, then I'll do it.
00:47:25I just want to perform on stage.
00:47:27Let me tell you another secret.
00:47:29His wife is also a very good dancer.
00:47:31Say it again.
00:47:33His wife.
00:47:35I see.
00:47:37Both of them used to dance so well.
00:47:41People wanted to see it.
00:47:43I heard your love story.
00:47:45Do you have permission to ask him?
00:47:47Not at all.
00:47:51I'm very mischievous.
00:47:53I can't tolerate it.
00:47:55I don't want to do it.
00:47:57Why?
00:47:59Did he find it himself?
00:48:01No, I didn't.
00:48:03In our family,
00:48:05we've been very open-minded.
00:48:07We don't need to arrange a marriage for anyone.
00:48:09If people are growing up,
00:48:11and they're understanding,
00:48:13then let them do it.
00:48:15This has always been the case with my parents.
00:48:17And I think the same for my daughter.
00:48:19There's no need for so much guidance.
00:48:21I would like to tell my parents
00:48:23that it's not your responsibility
00:48:25to take every decision.
00:48:27It's not good for your children
00:48:29to make decisions.
00:48:31Many parents think that
00:48:33their children get trapped
00:48:35in a wrong relationship.
00:48:37Even if they get trapped,
00:48:39it hurts the parents.
00:48:41Parents need to understand
00:48:43that we can never stop
00:48:45someone from getting hurt.
00:48:47So why are we making
00:48:49such unnatural decisions?
00:48:51There's always a chance that they'll get hurt.
00:48:53But they will learn something out of it.
00:48:55Let them learn.
00:48:57You don't have to impose
00:48:59on them to get married.
00:49:01Why?
00:49:03Let them understand
00:49:05that it's not religiously wrong,
00:49:07it's not morally wrong.
00:49:09It's a matter of upbringing.
00:49:11It's a personal decision.
00:49:13They have to live their whole lives.
00:49:15If you make a wrong decision,
00:49:17they'll blame you for it.
00:49:19So don't do it.
00:49:21You didn't have to show your sons
00:49:23pictures of you getting married.
00:49:25We got your wife's pictures made.
00:49:27Usually when sons grow up,
00:49:29their mothers show them pictures
00:49:31of them getting married.
00:49:33I didn't show them pictures.
00:49:35No, they did.
00:49:37It was open to us.
00:49:39I was thinking,
00:49:41will my sons see my pictures
00:49:43or will they show me?
00:49:45It's 2024.
00:49:47I'm waiting for it.
00:49:49You should try.
00:49:51It's up to the parents to suggest.
00:49:53You should do it.
00:49:55But a lot of parents
00:49:57don't like it.
00:49:59They still don't like it.
00:50:01They say, why aren't you getting
00:50:03Nadiyal's pictures?
00:50:05We should try to organize
00:50:07with this small thought.
00:50:09We have to make a good life.
00:50:11That's the real goal.
00:50:13It's the parents' primary.
00:50:15It's the kids' primary.
00:50:17They have to live their lives.
00:50:19If you want to fulfill your wishes,
00:50:21that's a very egocentric approach.
00:50:23You want to do what you want.
00:50:25If you think like that,
00:50:27I think
00:50:29it leaves a bad impact
00:50:31on the kids.
00:50:33They complain.
00:50:35Some kids run away from home.
00:50:37So you didn't face any social barriers
00:50:39when you got married?
00:50:41No.
00:50:43Wajiha's mother
00:50:45was her friend.
00:50:47We became friends like this.
00:50:49It was very sudden.
00:50:51What did Wajiha study?
00:50:53What did she do professionally?
00:50:55Both of you
00:50:57never came to me as a couple.
00:50:59My father was saying
00:51:01that my mother was doing
00:51:03English literature.
00:51:05Wajiha was also doing English literature.
00:51:07That's a strange coincidence.
00:51:09What a family!
00:51:11Wajiha always
00:51:13supported Yasmeen.
00:51:15Sometimes
00:51:17there is a moment of acceptance
00:51:19when you like someone from the bottom of your heart.
00:51:21It happens.
00:51:23It happened very easily.
00:51:25We didn't have any melodrama.
00:51:27We didn't have any drama
00:51:29that people were getting angry.
00:51:31It was all smooth.
00:51:33I think wisdom requires
00:51:35that things should run smoothly.
00:51:37Instead of
00:51:39creating barriers,
00:51:41you should always
00:51:43support the kids.
00:51:45Instead of being heavy handed.
00:51:47In careers,
00:51:49there is a time when it booms.
00:51:51Sometimes,
00:51:53especially in our field,
00:51:55you don't get good scripts.
00:51:57Then you say, what am I doing?
00:51:59What should I do?
00:52:01This is all I can do.
00:52:03Then you compromise.
00:52:05How many times did you have to do it?
00:52:07In terms of content,
00:52:09if you are talking about it,
00:52:11I would say a good...
00:52:13Is that why you didn't get
00:52:15good scripts?
00:52:17In terms of content,
00:52:19I would say a good 60% of the scripts
00:52:21are very ordinary.
00:52:2360% is a good conservative figure.
00:52:25Maybe more than that.
00:52:27You don't get good scripts.
00:52:29The reasons for that
00:52:31are
00:52:33that channels
00:52:35want sensitive things.
00:52:37They want to show the fights at home.
00:52:39I feel very sorry
00:52:41for the channels.
00:52:43Even if it's a top channel,
00:52:45they need to increase their thinking.
00:52:47They need to get out of
00:52:49fights at home.
00:52:51You don't get ratings.
00:52:53I don't agree.
00:52:55For God's sake,
00:52:57how many films were there?
00:52:59It was a hit.
00:53:01I can argue with you
00:53:03that...
00:53:05How many were there in Alpha Bravo Charlie?
00:53:07It was a hit.
00:53:09I am saying that
00:53:11we need to improve our making
00:53:13instead of making the content bad.
00:53:15Shoaib Mansoor sir works less.
00:53:17The good directors
00:53:19work very little.
00:53:21You should create more.
00:53:23What is the job of channels?
00:53:25Create good directors.
00:53:27Create good content.
00:53:29It sells well.
00:53:31I want to tell you
00:53:33about another important thing.
00:53:35I want to tell you about another important thing.
00:53:37There is a channel
00:53:39called Napa.
00:53:41Sometimes people from Napa
00:53:43used to
00:53:45do a session on the phone.
00:53:47I
00:53:49heard about such scripts.
00:53:51A girl
00:53:53asked me to write a script.
00:53:55I don't accept any script.
00:53:57I said, why not?
00:53:59They said,
00:54:01we don't want such scripts.
00:54:03We want a beautiful
00:54:05crying woman's story.
00:54:07A beautiful crying woman.
00:54:09Check the demand.
00:54:11There was a demand
00:54:13for a vampish woman.
00:54:15There was a time
00:54:17when a negative woman
00:54:19was the heroine of the drama.
00:54:21There was a time like that.
00:54:23I think
00:54:25channels
00:54:27need a lot of thinking.
00:54:29They think
00:54:31that a beautiful crying woman
00:54:33sells well.
00:54:35I can tell you
00:54:37that there are 7 days
00:54:39of dramas on channels.
00:54:41Two of them
00:54:43don't have a crying woman.
00:54:45They have content.
00:54:47I feel sad
00:54:49because I watch all the dramas
00:54:51on PTV.
00:54:53The content is like that.
00:54:55It doesn't get a rating.
00:54:57A crying woman gets a rating.
00:54:59Channels get stuck.
00:55:01This is also relative.
00:55:03They don't even know
00:55:05how many ratings they can get.
00:55:07You are making
00:55:09a drama for a small market.
00:55:11You are making
00:55:13a drama for a married
00:55:15middle-aged woman.
00:55:17If you look at the population
00:55:19of Pakistan,
00:55:21you are making a drama
00:55:23for the youth.
00:55:25The remaining
00:55:2734% of the population
00:55:29are men and women.
00:55:3117% of the population
00:55:33are men and women.
00:55:35The remaining
00:55:375-6%
00:55:39are men and women.
00:55:41You are targeting
00:55:435-6% of the population
00:55:45and leaving the remaining
00:55:4766%.
00:55:49It's a bad marketing
00:55:51understanding.
00:55:53It's bad.
00:55:55Who will make it for the youth?
00:55:57When will they make it?
00:55:59There is another problem.
00:56:01They get an advertisement
00:56:03based on the rating.
00:56:05You have to go to the advertisement.
00:56:07You have to go to the advertisement.
00:56:09You will get more ratings
00:56:11in the youth.
00:56:13We will come back after a break.
00:56:19Welcome.
00:56:21Welcome back.
00:56:23Today you are meeting
00:56:25Ali Tahir and
00:56:27Naeem Tahir on our show.
00:56:29You are going to have
00:56:31an interesting conversation.
00:56:33Forget that you are Naeem Tahir.
00:56:35You are a father.
00:56:37Your father will
00:56:39ask questions about your son.
00:56:41But I am Naeem Tahir's father.
00:56:43You are Naeem Tahir.
00:56:45But you are a father.
00:56:47But you are a father.
00:56:49The answers to your questions
00:56:51were
00:56:53multiple choice questions
00:56:55or you had to write it down.
00:56:57Both were there.
00:56:59This is also similar.
00:57:01I will give you a chance to fill in the blanks.
00:57:03I will say dash on the fill in the blanks.
00:57:05Okay.
00:57:07I am asking you about Ali.
00:57:09From a young age
00:57:11till now, Ali, fill in the blanks.
00:57:13There is a dash.
00:57:15What would you like to fill in the dash?
00:57:17From a young age till now,
00:57:19Ali, fill in the blanks.
00:57:21He is very loving.
00:57:23Wow.
00:57:25What happened?
00:57:27I could not
00:57:29change
00:57:31Ali's dash habit.
00:57:37Yes.
00:57:39I have to think about it.
00:57:41What is your habit?
00:57:43Maybe you eat a lot.
00:57:45Maybe you don't eat a lot.
00:57:47Maybe you don't talk much.
00:57:49Anything can happen.
00:57:51Losing the keys.
00:57:57That's right.
00:57:59That's how it is.
00:58:01Do you lose the keys?
00:58:03Yes.
00:58:05Have you ever lost the house keys?
00:58:07Yes.
00:58:09The car keys.
00:58:11Yes.
00:58:13I have a new car.
00:58:15I opened it.
00:58:17I was going to drive it.
00:58:19I kept the car keys in the trunk.
00:58:21I drove the car and took it.
00:58:23That's right.
00:58:25It's a recent incident.
00:58:27Oh my God.
00:58:29Ali, till date,
00:58:31you run away from food.
00:58:33Ali, till date, you run away from food.
00:58:35Meat.
00:58:37You don't eat meat, Ali?
00:58:39I became a vegetarian 2 years ago.
00:58:41That's why I'm saying meat.
00:58:43Did you lose weight?
00:58:45Did you lose weight?
00:58:47Did you lose weight?
00:58:49Yes.
00:58:51I felt that meat
00:58:53keeps your body swollen.
00:58:55Yes.
00:58:57Vegetables,
00:58:59water content,
00:59:01it's very dissolvable.
00:59:03If you work out,
00:59:05it affects your weight.
00:59:07If someone is planning to lose weight,
00:59:09I would really advise
00:59:11to eat less meat.
00:59:13People get crazy
00:59:15about mutton and chicken.
00:59:17It's overrated that
00:59:19we eat so much meat.
00:59:21Vegetables have a big world.
00:59:23Lentils have a big world.
00:59:25There are many good things to eat.
00:59:27If you pay attention to those things,
00:59:29it will affect your weight loss.
00:59:31Ali, if you didn't become an actor,
00:59:33you could have become a dash.
00:59:37I don't know what to say.
00:59:39Even I know what to say.
00:59:41But he won't say it.
00:59:43He won't say it.
00:59:45He won't say it.
00:59:47He will say something else.
00:59:49I don't know what to say.
00:59:51If I didn't become an actor,
00:59:53what do you think I would have become?
00:59:55I think you would have become a banker.
00:59:57Banker?
00:59:59Cricketer?
01:00:01Police?
01:00:03Indeed.
01:00:05He is a very good cricketer.
01:00:07Why don't you go
01:00:09to the cricket team?
01:00:11I used to play cricket.
01:00:13I play serious cricket.
01:00:15You don't play fun cricket.
01:00:17They play fun cricket.
01:00:19We played a league called MSL.
01:00:21I will tell you about their cricket.
01:00:23He used to play cricket.
01:00:25He was a captain
01:00:27in school.
01:00:29He used to do centuries.
01:00:31I didn't pass my matriculation exam.
01:00:33I didn't pass my matriculation exam.
01:00:35Should I keep this aside?
01:00:37No, no.
01:00:39He used to play like this.
01:00:41You are making fun of his toy.
01:00:43No, it's my toy.
01:00:45So,
01:00:47he...
01:00:49Did you play in the under-19s?
01:00:51Yes, I played in the under-19s.
01:00:53I played in the under-19s.
01:00:55I had to select him
01:00:57in the team.
01:00:59He was selected.
01:01:01But,
01:01:03in those days,
01:01:05when he had to go abroad,
01:01:07he had to pass his matriculation exam.
01:01:09So, he used to leave his matriculation exam
01:01:11and go abroad.
01:01:13Or he used to leave his matriculation exam.
01:01:15It's about the bachelors.
01:01:17It's about the bachelors.
01:01:19So, he failed his bachelors exam
01:01:21and couldn't go abroad.
01:01:23He is a cricketer.
01:01:25If he wasn't an actor, he would have been a cricketer.
01:01:27Absolutely.
01:01:29He can't sit peacefully without anything.
01:01:33He can't sit peacefully without anything.
01:01:37She will take it as a joke.
01:01:39But, he has cats.
01:01:41Really?
01:01:45We have always had
01:01:47pets in our house.
01:01:49Sometimes dogs, sometimes cats.
01:01:51Sometimes monkeys.
01:01:53Monkeys too?
01:01:55I have even kept an eagle for a short time.
01:01:57I love animals a lot.
01:02:01Ali, how many children do you have?
01:02:03We have one daughter.
01:02:05She is studying in UC Berkeley.
01:02:09What subject is she studying?
01:02:11Psychology.
01:02:13She is also doing Asian Studies.
01:02:15She is also doing Master in South Asian Studies.
01:02:17If your daughter is not intelligent,
01:02:19then whose daughter would she be?
01:02:21She has collected so many genes.
01:02:23Grandmother, Grandfather, Grandfather.
01:02:25I don't know about Grandfather.
01:02:27Your father-in-law.
01:02:29He has so many genes.
01:02:31He loves to study.
01:02:33She is doing very well.
01:02:35Thanks to God, she is studying Psychology.
01:02:37She took the scholarship herself.
01:02:39She applied there.
01:02:41She got the scholarship from three universities.
01:02:43All of them?
01:02:45Yes.
01:02:47Studying is very expensive.
01:02:49Dollars are also very expensive.
01:02:51You can't afford it.
01:02:53She is doing very well.
01:02:55Wow.
01:02:57Ali Dash,
01:02:59you make your work unheard of.
01:03:01Is there anything
01:03:03that you make unheard of?
01:03:09You are such an obedient kid.
01:03:11There is nothing like that.
01:03:13No.
01:03:15I don't know.
01:03:17There is nothing like that.
01:03:19If you forget it by chance,
01:03:21you will forget it.
01:03:25I give importance.
01:03:27Father's words are important.
01:03:29I try to give importance to
01:03:31the people around me.
01:03:33Let's ask you
01:03:35about your father.
01:03:37Okay.
01:03:39If father changes his dash habit,
01:03:41it will be very peaceful.
01:03:47If he changes his dash habit?
01:03:49If he changes his dash habit,
01:03:51it means he has changed.
01:03:53What was his old habit?
01:03:55He used to be very preoccupied.
01:03:57He used to be very busy.
01:03:59He used to be very preoccupied.
01:04:01I remember
01:04:03we were going home.
01:04:05I asked him where are we going?
01:04:07He said home.
01:04:09He turned back.
01:04:11He used to be very preoccupied.
01:04:15Now he is not so preoccupied.
01:04:17Now I have seen that
01:04:19father
01:04:21needs to make himself understand
01:04:23that
01:04:25many things in life are tough.
01:04:29If you are
01:04:31dealing with bravery,
01:04:33then it becomes easy.
01:04:35You fought such a big battle.
01:04:37Yes.
01:04:39The period when
01:04:41cancer was diagnosed.
01:04:43You won that battle.
01:04:45I have always seen
01:04:47that father was
01:04:49a very brave person.
01:04:51He used to take things head on.
01:04:53The time when
01:04:55one person in the family
01:04:57was sick,
01:04:59he was not feeling anything.
01:05:01He was feeling the things
01:05:03of his loved ones.
01:05:05My mother has Alzheimer's.
01:05:07My mother has Alzheimer's.
01:05:09It is an ailment
01:05:11which
01:05:13is lost in memory.
01:05:15In the film,
01:05:17Amitabh Bachchan's character
01:05:19told the general public
01:05:21that he has Alzheimer's.
01:05:23There was a film called The Father
01:05:25directed by Anthony Hopkins.
01:05:27In that film,
01:05:29he made the film
01:05:31from the point of view
01:05:33of Alzheimer's patients.
01:05:35That helped a lot.
01:05:37That is something
01:05:39which makes father feel low.
01:05:41He has always been a tough man.
01:05:43He used to forget things.
01:05:45He used to forget things.
01:05:47Your loved ones were in pain.
01:05:49Yes.
01:05:51Yasmeen and I
01:05:53have been together for 64 years.
01:05:55We have not only been
01:05:57husband and wife.
01:05:59We have been friends.
01:06:01Companions.
01:06:03I can see that when you were
01:06:05talking about them.
01:06:07I just love it.
01:06:09Even after so many years of marriage,
01:06:11when you talk about your spouse,
01:06:13I can see the spark in your eyes.
01:06:15What kind of relationship is that?
01:06:17We love each other a lot.
01:06:19There is no doubt about it.
01:06:21I am very down.
01:06:23There is no doubt.
01:06:25But how do I handle myself?
01:06:27May God take care of him.
01:06:29May he get well.
01:06:31I will get well.
01:06:33The biggest thing is
01:06:35the concept of trust.
01:06:37He is the best planner.
01:06:39He will take you towards
01:06:41betterment.
01:06:43We have started an alternative
01:06:45based on wisdom.
01:06:47Not allopathy.
01:06:49It is getting better.
01:06:51We are trying our best.
01:06:53Things get better.
01:06:55We are very fortunate.
01:06:57How long has it been since
01:06:59he was detected?
01:07:011.5 to 2 years.
01:07:031.5 to 2 years is very clear.
01:07:05But his effects were
01:07:07going on for 2 years.
01:07:09We did not recognize it.
01:07:11It used to fall in America.
01:07:13What was the reason for it?
01:07:17Brain cells start getting affected.
01:07:21What is the difference between
01:07:23dementia and Alzheimer's?
01:07:25Dementia leads to Alzheimer's.
01:07:27It is like a part of Alzheimer's.
01:07:31It is in extreme form.
01:07:33You forget to chew and swallow.
01:07:35Yasir's aunt is also
01:07:37suffering from it.
01:07:41It is important for the viewers
01:07:43to know that it is a reality
01:07:45which is coming to our elderly
01:07:47people.
01:07:49We should be prepared for it.
01:07:51It used to fall down
01:07:53and get hurt.
01:07:55That was lack of coordination
01:07:57between your limbs and brain.
01:08:03Anyways, let's move on.
01:08:07You also had cancer.
01:08:09You fought with it.
01:08:11At that time, Yasmeen
01:08:13used to feel the same.
01:08:15She was very worried.
01:08:17She was very worried.
01:08:21Is your father's willpower strong?
01:08:23Very much.
01:08:25He has always been a very strong man.
01:08:27I have seen that when
01:08:29there are problems in life,
01:08:31he is the strongest.
01:08:33This is the best thing.
01:08:35Otherwise, you become weak in
01:08:37problems.
01:08:39But he was very strong in
01:08:41problems.
01:08:43We used to benefit a lot from it.
01:08:45A figure which
01:08:47does not get worried
01:08:49in small things.
01:08:51Children also pick the same.
01:08:53Of course, your qualities will
01:08:55be picked more.
01:08:57What I was saying is that
01:08:59he used to make me understand this.
01:09:01No matter how many times he used to
01:09:03make me understand, I could not understand.
01:09:05When I have seen him,
01:09:07that in big problems,
01:09:09you have to be more composed.
01:09:11Problems are a part of life.
01:09:13Problems will not end.
01:09:15They will remain.
01:09:17You have to deal with them.
01:09:19Do you still remember
01:09:21what you said to your wife?
01:09:23I don't remember anything.
01:09:25What memories does he have?
01:09:27Nothing.
01:09:29She does not recognize me and Alitak.
01:09:31She does not recognize you many times.
01:09:33But there is a glow in her eyes.
01:09:35She recognizes me.
01:09:37Who does she recognize?
01:09:39Nobody.
01:09:41She knows that I am
01:09:43very close to her.
01:09:45She knows that I am her son.
01:09:47You have to tell her again and again.
01:09:49I also talk to her many times.
01:09:51I tell her.
01:09:53So that she remembers.
01:09:55And that helps.
01:09:57People who have
01:09:59such ailments in their homes,
01:10:01it is very important
01:10:03to deal with such people
01:10:05very softly and lovingly.
01:10:07Do not get angry with them.
01:10:09Sometimes people start getting angry.
01:10:11You do not remember anything.
01:10:13You should not do such things.
01:10:15You should not repeat.
01:10:17I am your son.
01:10:19You should try to occupy your mind.
01:10:21You hold the newspaper.
01:10:23But it will give her
01:10:25something to do.
01:10:27She can watch TV.
01:10:29She can watch TV.
01:10:31She understands things.
01:10:33She does not understand.
01:10:35Time pass.
01:10:37She can get some of it maybe.
01:10:39And for the people
01:10:41who are watching,
01:10:43what can be their time pass?
01:10:45What activities can they do?
01:10:47What can the family do?
01:10:49In the initial stages,
01:10:51Coloring books help a lot.
01:10:53Word puzzles help a lot.
01:10:55Like we should go in that
01:10:57where we train children.
01:10:59It is written in the Quran
01:11:01that this circle of a person
01:11:03starts from a child
01:11:05and becomes a child in old age.
01:11:07It is written in the Quran
01:11:09that it is the truth.
01:11:11You said something very interesting.
01:11:13Treat children
01:11:15in the same way.
01:11:17Treat children with love.
01:11:19Create such activities
01:11:21for them.
01:11:23It will engage the mind.
01:11:25You are educated people.
01:11:27A certain class
01:11:29will not be able to understand
01:11:31what the problem is.
01:11:33Why do they keep saying the same thing?
01:11:35Why do they keep doing it?
01:11:37If they are watching our program,
01:11:39they need to understand
01:11:41what it is.
01:11:43They have gained a lot of awareness.
01:11:45It has improved a lot.
01:11:47Treat children
01:11:49in the same way.
01:11:51Do you have any other questions?
01:11:53It is a long question.
01:11:55It is important.
01:11:57It is a good awareness.
01:11:59I thought we should share it.
01:12:01It is on Google.
01:12:03But many people
01:12:05do not use Google.
01:12:07They have a small mobile phone.
01:12:09Father,
01:12:11for DASH,
01:12:13can you leave all your work?
01:12:15For Nihari.
01:12:17Nihari fan.
01:12:19Do you have any problem
01:12:21if the chilies are spicy?
01:12:23No.
01:12:25Nihari should be good.
01:12:27Did Yasmin cook good food?
01:12:29Yes.
01:12:31She used to cook very well.
01:12:33She used to like Nihari a lot.
01:12:35I also feel like eating Nihari.
01:12:39Take everything from father.
01:12:41But do not take DASH.
01:12:43Do you have any problem
01:12:45with taking a car?
01:12:47At one time,
01:12:49I used to have a problem
01:12:51with taking a car.
01:12:53Father used to have to go somewhere.
01:12:55I have a habit
01:12:57that there are two cars at home.
01:12:59I can go in whichever car
01:13:01I want.
01:13:03I can go around
01:13:05with my car keys.
01:13:07You can go around.
01:13:09Yes.
01:13:11Father has a habit
01:13:13that he does not want
01:13:15to take a car.
01:13:17Yes.
01:13:19Okay.
01:13:21To keep father busy,
01:13:23DASH option is best.
01:13:25To keep him busy?
01:13:27Yes.
01:13:29If you talk to father about work,
01:13:31father will be there
01:13:33with you.
01:13:35If you talk about work,
01:13:37father is there.
01:13:39Great.
01:13:41We are taking a short break.
01:13:43Keep watching after the break.
01:13:45Ali Tahir and Naeem Tahir
01:13:47are our guests today.
01:13:51Welcome.
01:13:53Welcome back.
01:13:55Beautiful things are happening
01:13:57on our show today.
01:13:59We are getting a chance
01:14:01to learn a lot.
01:14:03I am regretting that
01:14:05I did not meet you earlier.
01:14:07You have such a learned
01:14:09family.
01:14:11May God bless your mother and you.
01:14:13Amen.
01:14:15As I was saying,
01:14:17you are a fighter.
01:14:19You have fought.
01:14:21You had kidney cancer.
01:14:23How long ago did it happen?
01:14:25It happened
01:14:27in 2003.
01:14:29It happened in 2003.
01:14:31Yes.
01:14:33Its discovery
01:14:35was strange and rare.
01:14:37Yes.
01:14:39I will tell you in detail.
01:14:41I came back from work.
01:14:43At that time,
01:14:45I was building
01:14:47National Art Gallery.
01:14:49I used to supervise
01:14:51and look at files.
01:14:53A staff member
01:14:55told me to go.
01:14:57He was late.
01:14:59I told him that
01:15:01there was a driver's file
01:15:03who should have been vaccinated.
01:15:05Otherwise, he would have died.
01:15:07The accountant told me
01:15:09that he could not be vaccinated
01:15:11because he did not have money.
01:15:13His provident fund
01:15:15would have been released.
01:15:17I told him that it was unfair
01:15:19for him to die.
01:15:21I gave him an order
01:15:23to pay for it.
01:15:25If there is any audit objection,
01:15:27it is my responsibility.
01:15:29He told me to go.
01:15:31I looked at the file.
01:15:33I went to the toilet.
01:15:35I was stunned.
01:15:37I was stunned.
01:15:39His name was Ansari.
01:15:41I told him that
01:15:43I was being deceived.
01:15:45He told me that
01:15:47there was blood in the toilet.
01:15:49There was blood in the toilet.
01:15:53I called the doctor.
01:15:55He told me to come
01:15:57and get tested.
01:15:59I came to Lahore.
01:16:01In Lahore,
01:16:03a doctor told me
01:16:05that I was in pain.
01:16:07I said no.
01:16:09He said that I must take it seriously.
01:16:13I am telling you
01:16:15that I have never experienced
01:16:17such a thing.
01:16:19Two of my friends
01:16:21came to get tested.
01:16:23I was lying down.
01:16:25We were talking to each other.
01:16:27They told me that
01:16:29there was a lot of cancer.
01:16:31I was in a bad condition.
01:16:33My wife Yasmin
01:16:35and another friend were sitting there.
01:16:37I told them that
01:16:39the best news is that I am fine.
01:16:41There is no leakage.
01:16:43The second news is that
01:16:45there is cancer.
01:16:47It is the worst situation.
01:16:49When I came back,
01:16:51they were looking at my face.
01:16:53It is the worst situation.
01:16:55There was no silence.
01:16:59After that,
01:17:01as they say,
01:17:03I attacked the problem.
01:17:05I immediately started
01:17:07scanning for the best doctor.
01:17:09I met different doctors.
01:17:11Finally,
01:17:13poor Uzma Gilani
01:17:15was also with us.
01:17:17She has also gone through it.
01:17:19Yes.
01:17:21In Islamabad,
01:17:23there is Dr. Barney.
01:17:25Dr. Barney? Yes.
01:17:27He was the head
01:17:29of the
01:17:31surgery.
01:17:33I went to him.
01:17:35He was such a nice person.
01:17:37I don't know what to tell you.
01:17:39He asked me everything.
01:17:41Gilani was also there.
01:17:43Yasmin was also there.
01:17:45He said that
01:17:47the operation should be done soon.
01:17:49I said okay.
01:17:51I said,
01:17:53when can we do the operation?
01:17:55He said, me?
01:17:57I said, yes.
01:17:59He said, I didn't know.
01:18:01I was giving you advice.
01:18:03I said, when can you do the operation?
01:18:05You had done all the research.
01:18:07He said, I have to go to Kuwait tomorrow.
01:18:09It is very important.
01:18:11I will come and do it day after tomorrow.
01:18:13I was admitted to the hospital.
01:18:15Preparations for the operation started.
01:18:17I was promoted.
01:18:19That is why I said
01:18:21that you are a fighter.
01:18:23When something happens to a person,
01:18:25he responds to it.
01:18:27He doesn't have the ability to think.
01:18:29He doesn't have the ability to research.
01:18:31He has a very stable mind.
01:18:33You took the decision at the right time.
01:18:35You removed the kidney.
01:18:37Yes.
01:18:39After that,
01:18:41we were talking during the break.
01:18:43The biggest medicine is water.
01:18:45Oh.
01:18:47I would like to tell the viewers
01:18:49that water is the solution
01:18:51to a hundred diseases.
01:18:53The more you drink,
01:18:55the better your skin will be.
01:18:57People who have dialysis
01:18:59are deprived of water.
01:19:01My mother-in-law and mother-in-law
01:19:03were all dialysis patients.
01:19:05They were desperate for water.
01:19:07Today's youth do not drink water.
01:19:09How ungrateful they are.
01:19:11We have to scold our children
01:19:13who drink water for God's sake.
01:19:15People who are not suffering from such ailments
01:19:17should drink a lot of water.
01:19:19A lot.
01:19:21This is an interesting question.
01:19:23Ali, will you come here?
01:19:25I will ask you the questions
01:19:27that you have written.
01:19:29If you think they are correct,
01:19:31then it is fine.
01:19:33The camera is over there.
01:19:35You should not stand like this.
01:19:37If you think it is wrong,
01:19:39you can cross it.
01:19:41I will ask you one by one.
01:19:43I will ask you one by one.
01:19:45Most of my habits are different
01:19:47from my father's.
01:19:49Right or wrong?
01:19:51Most?
01:19:53Yes.
01:19:55I am a mixture.
01:19:57Tell me the percentage.
01:19:5960-40?
01:20:0150-30?
01:20:03I would say
01:20:0550-50.
01:20:07I am a good mix.
01:20:09Correct?
01:20:11Correct.
01:20:13I will ask you a question.
01:20:15My son listens to me quietly.
01:20:17Is this the right answer?
01:20:19Should I cross it?
01:20:21Does he listen to you quietly
01:20:23or does he argue?
01:20:25Does he need logic?
01:20:27He listens to me often.
01:20:29By the way, you must be
01:20:31talking with logic.
01:20:33Yes.
01:20:35First comes logic and then talks.
01:20:37Okay.
01:20:39Next question.
01:20:41Because of my fear,
01:20:43I talk a lot to my father.
01:20:45I talk a lot to my father.
01:20:47I cannot talk to him.
01:20:49Yes.
01:20:51I can talk to him.
01:20:53When I was younger,
01:20:55I used to get scared.
01:20:57But now I learn it.
01:20:59He does not talk to me.
01:21:01He does not talk to you.
01:21:03He does not talk to you.
01:21:05I like everything
01:21:07around me
01:21:09to be perfect.
01:21:11Do you have OCD?
01:21:13Do you want the remote to be straight?
01:21:15Some people are perfect.
01:21:17They are toppers.
01:21:19If the house is being sold,
01:21:21do you have any problem or do you have any curiosity?
01:21:23No.
01:21:25I like everything to be perfect.
01:21:27Whether it is possible or not.
01:21:29But I like everything to be perfect.
01:21:31This is the right answer.
01:21:33This is the right answer.
01:21:35Okay. Your question is
01:21:37After watching my dramas,
01:21:39my father gives me better tips.
01:21:43Does he?
01:21:45No.
01:21:47I am happy
01:21:49that my father likes my work.
01:21:51He usually encourages me.
01:21:53He encourages me a lot.
01:21:55According to him,
01:21:57I am actually a better actor
01:21:59than my father.
01:22:01In my opinion,
01:22:03he is the best actor
01:22:05in our family.
01:22:07He is the most sensitive.
01:22:09There is no doubt about it.
01:22:11Because
01:22:13all the characters
01:22:15look like him.
01:22:17You can play a character of your age
01:22:19very well.
01:22:21When he did his first drama,
01:22:23on the stage,
01:22:25I directed it.
01:22:27I cannot work in my father's direction.
01:22:29I feel scared.
01:22:31I cannot work with my husband
01:22:33or with my father.
01:22:35When I work with my husband,
01:22:37we fight.
01:22:39Because he does not consider me as an actress.
01:22:41He considers me as his wife.
01:22:43He does not give me time for makeup.
01:22:45It is very difficult for me to work with my family.
01:22:47It was a pleasure for me.
01:22:49All the family members work with you.
01:22:51You used to work with your wife.
01:22:53It means you are a soft-spoken person.
01:22:55Yes.
01:22:57Today's new dramas
01:22:59do not impress me.
01:23:01Is it right or wrong?
01:23:03Look,
01:23:05it is a sweeping statement.
01:23:07I cannot say
01:23:09about every new drama.
01:23:11Should I cross it or tick it?
01:23:13Should I cross it or tick it?
01:23:15Most of them look good.
01:23:17Do you think
01:23:19most of them are not good?
01:23:21Some of them look good.
01:23:23It is about impressing.
01:23:25It is about impressing.
01:23:27It is not about good or bad.
01:23:29It is about impressing.
01:23:31I have not done it.
01:23:33I have not done it.
01:23:35A lot of my childhood mischiefs
01:23:37are still present in me.
01:23:39Are they mischiefs
01:23:41or you have become more sober?
01:23:43Look there.
01:23:45I would like to double or triple it.
01:23:47Really?
01:23:49Yes.
01:23:51Do you get mischievous?
01:23:53I live in the same mood.
01:23:55Really?
01:23:57Thank God, I am happy.
01:23:59I think mischief
01:24:01is a blessing of life.
01:24:03Yes.
01:24:05If we do mischief,
01:24:07we become a troll.
01:24:09We become old.
01:24:11We are like this.
01:24:13Mischief is done with intelligence.
01:24:15It is not mischief without intelligence.
01:24:17It is interesting.
01:24:19We are so intelligent.
01:24:21You didn't tell me.
01:24:23Ok.
01:24:25What is this?
01:24:27Feed a golden spoon.
01:24:29Look at it with a lion's eye.
01:24:31I believe in this.
01:24:33I don't think
01:24:35it is about you.
01:24:37What do you say?
01:24:39Feed a golden spoon to whom?
01:24:41To children.
01:24:43This is for children.
01:24:45We have heard this since childhood.
01:24:47Feed a golden spoon.
01:24:49This is from your point of view.
01:24:51This is nonsense.
01:24:53Why should I feed a golden spoon?
01:24:55What else?
01:24:57I treat my employees like this.
01:24:59Feed a golden spoon.
01:25:01Look at it with a lion's eye.
01:25:03Do your work.
01:25:05As I was talking about work.
01:25:07For my father,
01:25:09work is as close to
01:25:11worship as you think.
01:25:13Very nice.
01:25:15My father wants his work to be done
01:25:17in the right way.
01:25:19I don't think this is for children.
01:25:21We didn't know that
01:25:23it is for employees.
01:25:25Ok.
01:25:27Your question is
01:25:29was there a reason for
01:25:31bad scripts?
01:25:33Absolutely.
01:25:35You said
01:25:37I have to do something.
01:25:39You have to do it.
01:25:41Sometimes you have to.
01:25:43But you don't feel like doing it.
01:25:45In my opinion,
01:25:47if you are getting
01:25:49monotonous work,
01:25:51as an actor, it is your job
01:25:53to create tension in it.
01:25:55You can change looks,
01:25:57tone, style.
01:25:59I think,
01:26:01as an actress,
01:26:03acting is like an addiction.
01:26:05When you are interested,
01:26:07you want to get a character.
01:26:09You are hungry for a good character.
01:26:11This is for every actor.
01:26:13A lot of actors are bold.
01:26:15They say, give us this character.
01:26:17A lot of them are not shy.
01:26:19So,
01:26:21people around me,
01:26:23because of my serious personality,
01:26:25they get nervous
01:26:27while talking to me.
01:26:29I thought you were joking.
01:26:31Let's change this question.
01:26:33No, forgive me.
01:26:35I will say this.
01:26:37A lot of people think
01:26:39I was like this.
01:26:41But after meeting you,
01:26:43my impressions have changed.
01:26:45But this holds true for me too.
01:26:47I am doing the right thing.
01:26:49If people get nervous,
01:26:51they will recognize me.
01:26:53If they get to know you,
01:26:55it will be good.
01:26:57You have an attractive personality.
01:26:59It is good to get nervous.
01:27:01Otherwise,
01:27:03those PhD people will come.
01:27:05Yes.
01:27:07It is important.
01:27:09Please sit down.
01:27:11We will take your permission.
01:27:13Thank you.
01:27:15It was good to talk to you.
01:27:17I regret that I didn't meet you earlier.
01:27:19We will meet again.
01:27:21It was good to talk to you.
01:27:23We shared a lot of personal things.
01:27:25Yes.
01:27:27I didn't ask much about you.
01:27:29He didn't refuse me
01:27:31before the program.
01:27:33So, I thought
01:27:35I will start from here.
01:27:37I don't know.
01:27:39Fans get shocked
01:27:41when they don't know a lot of things.
01:27:43Yes.
01:27:45Celebrities.
01:27:47It is fun to hear
01:27:49someone's love story.
01:27:51No matter what happens at home,
01:27:53it is fun to hear someone's love story.
01:27:55No doubt.
01:27:57Real life romance.
01:27:59We don't tell everyone.
01:28:01You feel proud.
01:28:03You said it in a proud way.
01:28:05I take responsibility
01:28:07for anything that I have done.
01:28:09Absolutely.
01:28:11Lida,
01:28:13it was good to do this program with you.
01:28:15It was a relaxed program.
01:28:17We were talking about things
01:28:19which we all share.
01:28:21Did you think I will get henna done?
01:28:23My image is like this.
01:28:25People do like this.
01:28:27They do.
01:28:29It is a dull program.
01:28:31But I felt
01:28:33I have to do everything.
01:28:35Like you said,
01:28:37I have to do everything for a character.
01:28:39Even at home,
01:28:41there is a lot of discussion.
01:28:43Mom is a director. Dad is a director.
01:28:45Uncle was a banker.
01:28:47He used to sit like this.
01:28:49My husband, my sister,
01:28:51everyone is like this at home.
01:28:53When a stranger comes,
01:28:55he asks me where I am stuck.
01:28:57In our family,
01:28:59there are many bankers.
01:29:01Thank you.
01:29:03May God bless you.
01:29:05May God bless Yasmin.
01:29:07Thank you.
01:29:09Thank you all.
01:29:11Thank you for the network.
01:29:13Thank you.
01:29:15It was a good time.
01:29:17It was not a program.
01:29:19It was a friendly conversation.
01:29:21It was fun.
01:29:23Thank you.
01:29:25I hope
01:29:27you have not only heard
01:29:29but also learned a lot.
01:29:31You must have learned a lot.
01:29:33Adopt it in your life and make it easy.
01:29:35Allah Hafiz.

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