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00:06 Were the processes that we use today that allowed all of us to create a level of conversation
00:15 that almost never takes place in usual meetings in the business world, in the reach-in world,
00:23 in the mental health world, that we could actually take out and use?
00:30 But the very last thing I'd like you to do is just share with the group what's your short,
00:36 succinct answer to where to from here and how might you or we keep collaborative conversation flowing?
00:48 And when you talk about where to from here, it's how we're going to communicate it
00:53 because there's so many different levels, whether that's the government level, the farmer level,
00:57 the consumer level, so we've got to work out how we communicate to those different levels.
01:04 For me today was very much a beginning, a delightful beginning, very much so,
01:09 and I see the documentary as being this really fundamental part of that beginning
01:14 and yet there's a big piece of me that goes, I think this is so much bigger than that as well.
01:19 For me it's about, as I alluded to earlier, taking action and having an action-oriented thought process
01:26 around this and any thought bubbles I have, making sure that I feed them back to either of you
01:32 so that, as Jule just described, that it's much more than a documentary,
01:36 that it becomes something that has absolute and real impact.
01:41 How do we keep the conversation going?
01:44 It was said by someone else earlier, I forget who said it first, apologies,
01:48 is we make the acknowledgement that we need to ourselves, make the time and space for that to happen
01:55 and give it a priority for ourselves.
01:58 I think, grab Terry McCosker, Jen, Catherine, Warren and Rose Crane and put them in a room
02:08 so Terry can speak to a larger audience and probably an audience that isn't hearing his level of experience and expertise in carbon.
02:17 I think there's two options you've got, you can come top down or bottom up.
02:21 Bottom up means involving people at a community level, asking people what they require
02:27 and addressing the local needs.
02:31 When we won a pitching competition last year called Grow New York, we started with a quote
02:37 and the quote was, 'Everyone wants to reduce methane emissions, but no one wants to pay for it.'
02:43 And I think what I need to do is I need to understand that dynamic better
02:47 because this conversation in this room is great
02:52 and our real challenge is to draw more people into this conversation, not keep having it with ourselves.
02:58 Things that we're doing, we're on the right track and there's also another whole swag of people
03:03 all trying to do very similar things.
03:06 I suppose, a bit of a plug for Alan, some of the skills that we need to get him better at communicating
03:12 so we can have better conversations and have that conversation that's above the lines.
03:17 I think we're just starting to ask the right questions, but I think we've got a lot more questions to ask
03:23 and I think we've had a lot of interesting conversations today
03:26 and from that there will hopefully be a lot more learning and a lot more questions going forward
03:31 so I'm pretty keen to see where that goes.
03:34 I came to the conclusion that we weren't going to be able to provide much change
03:38 unless we could convince our political fathers to accept the fact that we need to change
03:45 and the only thing that will do that is keeping them in power and money.
03:50 It's get to know what those alternative stories are that are coming through
03:55 and it's not just to provide counterpoints, although useful for that.
04:00 You could use them to provide standard sets of positive messaging.
04:03 How many times do we see politicians of a party or another say the same thing over and over and over
04:10 until all of a sudden it becomes the gospel according to X?
04:15 I focus on the DACO because all your other questions feed into what you're going to be doing in that DACO
04:25 and I think that's where you're going to draw on the knowledge, I think, of this group.
04:30 I'm always for really simple first steps so my first thought is that you and John,
04:36 which might be once every six weeks, even once every three months,
04:40 you craft a briefing that tells us where you're at.
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