Who is responsible for terrorism in Pakistan? - PM Kakar's Reaction

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Transcript
00:00 Do we have enough reasons to believe that this is a recent wave of attacks?
00:06 Is the Afghan government's faith involved in this?
00:10 See, whether they support this faith or not is a later phase.
00:17 But the movement and the attacks that are coming from the ground,
00:24 they accept it, they know it, we know it.
00:28 We can talk about their capacity to control these groups,
00:35 or the issue of their intentions, we can talk about both.
00:39 But these people are present in Afghanistan, their leadership is there,
00:45 some of them are on our side, they are people connected to TTP.
00:49 Therefore, until you have an engagement with the Afghan government
01:00 and there is no commitment from them, this will not be concluded.
01:06 Is the response we expect from them in this respect, is it getting it or is it less?
01:11 See, we are obviously surrounded by the relations of both the countries.
01:16 We would like more cooperation.
01:22 From our perspective, from the perspective of Pakistan, it has always been less.
01:29 And we would like more of it.
01:32 And we hope that in the larger regional stability,
01:36 I understand the level of their leadership,
01:40 that they understand this, they have an idea and understanding
01:45 that if from Central Asia to Pakistan, from Pakistan to the North Caucasus,
01:52 Iran, Azerbaijan, all the regions, China,
01:57 in this, the travel towards economic prosperity,
02:05 will be possible when there is a stable Afghan state, a stable Afghan government.
02:19 And I think this is in the interest of the Afghan nationals first,
02:25 and then obviously everyone else too.
02:27 But you are saying that it is a bit too early to conclude
02:30 that they have involvement or negligence in this matter.
02:35 Too early to conclude?
02:36 Absolutely.
02:38 And I think that the appropriate level is there,
02:42 our various courts are engaged with them,
02:45 and our seriousness of the pursuance is being understood and translated.
02:50 And God willing, we will conclude this successfully.
02:53 And Mr. Prime Minister, you think that the matter of negotiations,
02:56 which went on in the past,
02:58 do you think it was never a good idea?
03:00 Did this help strengthen those groups?
03:02 Look, if anyone still has confusion in this,
03:06 then I think this is a national malice.
03:09 It could be a national tragedy.
03:12 You never negotiate with terrorists in this manner.
03:16 A lot of people tell me that you were supportive of the idea
03:22 that there should be a negotiation between the TTA and the Americans.
03:25 This was my next question.
03:26 There is no doubt about this.
03:28 Because Afghanistan was not the home of the Americans.
03:32 They had to go back to their homes.
03:34 And they were being treated as an occupancy force.
03:39 But where will we go?
03:42 Where will I go leaving this land?
03:44 Where will you go leaving this land?
03:46 You are taking a fight of this lifestyle and overall society.
03:52 We have 500 kinds of differences between us.
03:56 But we are agreed on the social order and state structure.
03:59 So you are never supportive of the idea that we should talk to the TTA?
04:02 No, not of any terrorist group.
04:05 Look, we have to determine the principle
04:08 that who should have the monopoly of violence.
04:12 The idea of nation state or modern nation state,
04:16 in that you get the guarantee of security
04:19 against remaining peaceful and unarmed.
04:23 You remain unarmed as a citizen.
04:25 And the state says that you will look after the security aspect.
04:29 So you transfer the right to violence to the state.
04:32 And that monopoly remains with the state.
04:34 For example, if you have a dispute with the state,
04:38 even in that case you cannot resort to the tool of violence.
04:42 If you do, it will be an illegitimate concept,
04:46 an unethical concept, an unethical concept.
04:49 You cannot permit that in any way.

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