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00:00Mr. Nawaz Sharif and Mr. Shahbaz Sharif are on the same page regarding all these reforms and all these debates.
00:07They are on the same page.
00:08Look, being the President of the party, Mr. Mian, they are fulfilling their responsibilities at the request of Mr. Shahbaz Sharif and at his request.
00:21As party head, obviously, with the party and with Mr. Shahbaz Sharif.
00:26What was the timing of all this? Was it the Prime Minister's idea or was it Mr. Mian Nawaz Sharif's idea that you bring it and do it?
00:32Look, when we came after the elections in February, a lot of issues were haunting the country.
00:42Your 22% policy rate, your double-digit inflation, your growth was completely over, there was an industrial shock,
00:51there was a need for the IMF to go.
00:54So, all these things that you saw as soon as they came, meetings and actions are taking place.
01:01It has always been on the agenda that as soon as possible, we have to do this judicial reform.
01:08And look at it from a different angle.
01:12If the common man gets relief, if he gets relief, he will know that this is ours.
01:18By the way, reforms include, the final will be that which everyone will decide.
01:26In this, it will be necessary to make time-bound decisions.
01:29I am talking about normal business, people's, civil and criminal, whatever appeals come in the Supreme Court,
01:36then all these things are in their favor.
01:38Maybe 70-80% of the work that will be done will be for the benefit of the common man.
01:43I asked you because both are on the same page.
01:46Look, Prime Minister went to Maulana Sahib, President went to Maulana Shahbaz,
01:51Bilawal Bhutto went to him, you went, Maulana Sanaullah Sahib went, Mohsin Naqvi Sahib went,
01:57and everyone went again and again.
01:59If one person did not go, then Nawaz Sharif did not go.
02:02He came to Islamabad, he did not meet.
02:04Now, if he is owning everything, and of course, his weight,
02:09by bringing all these people together, becomes heavier than him,
02:12is Nawaz Sharif Sahib avoiding Maulana Sahib on this?
02:16Will he meet him or does he not want to meet him?
02:19No, there is no such thing.
02:21Maulana Sahib has a very good relationship with all of us.
02:25You saw that in 2014, when the protest took place here, he openly…
02:30Then why did he not meet till now?
02:31No, no, of course, meeting is a different matter.
02:34Everyone is busy, but there is no such thing.
02:37Tell me, your government is making a constitutional amendment.
02:40The whole of Pakistan is on fire.
02:43And Nawaz Sharif Sahib, the three-time Prime Minister, he comes easily.
02:47He finds out that there is no vote, he goes back.
02:50He does not talk to Maulana, nor does he convince Maulana.
02:53You have a big gun, you do not have a bigger gun than Nawaz Sharif Sahib.
02:57You did not fire it, so is he distancing himself from it?
03:00No, no, not at all.
03:01Look, without his approval and his guidance, the party does not move forward.
03:07I am telling you this with clarity.
03:09He is taken to conferences, he is allowed.
03:12We have a mechanism in which the federal government or the Punjab government,
03:15because he is the president of the party.
03:17So will he meet Maulana Sahib?
03:19Why not? Of course, he will meet him.
03:21But this work, there is no such thing.
03:25This has become a force.
03:27He just said, I need time.
03:30So in October, Irfan Siddiqui Sahib also said in an interview that
03:34we are bringing it in the first week of October.
03:36Then maybe because Nawaz Sharif Sahib is going to America.
03:40You told this before the program that he is going to mourn his friend's wife.
03:43Yes, he has a lot of old friends.
03:45He is going to mourn his wife's death.
03:47So this means that voting will take place before he leaves, right?
03:50Because his vote will also be critical.
03:52So then this 7th October, 8th October,
03:55can this be after his return?
03:57I don't know the reason why Siddiqui Sahib gave the exact date.
04:02He must have thought the same.
04:04Obviously, our culture is that after death,
04:08you don't go and mourn after a month or two.
04:11So he did it on the phone.
04:13But his friends, whenever his wife died,
04:17his father died,
04:19he always came from America.
04:21So if he mourns for 2-3 days,
04:23it is reciprocal.
04:25It is his childhood memory.
04:27In the past, Khans Sahib had one page.
04:30Now you have your own page.
04:32You consult in everything,
04:34whether it is foreign affairs, fiscal, SIFC.
04:36Even now, the loans were being re-rolled.
04:40The Prime Minister also said that the military leadership played a big role.
04:43This judicial package,
04:46did you brief the military leadership in this?
04:51Were they on board?
04:53It is good to have one page,
04:55but for what objective?
04:57I don't want to criticize Khans Sahib's one page.
05:00He is in trouble right now.
05:02But his one page objective was something else.
05:04And we all know that.
05:06It has become public now.
05:08Political vendetta, political victimization.
05:10In the next 10 years,
05:12people will have to rule this country.
05:14X, Y, Z.
05:16He had his own agenda.
05:18This one page agenda is about Pakistan's survival.
05:23I think this one page agenda
05:25will be appreciated by all Pakistanis.
05:27And you are talking about just two agencies.
05:30I think all three should come together.
05:32You are well-read and well-informed.
05:38The situation of the country requires
05:41that we try our best to rebuild this country.
05:44The 24th economy was established in 2017.
05:47The non-stable country was declared globally in 2013.
05:51And no one knew who would win the elections.
05:54And this was a projection.
05:56I am reminding you of the political party
05:58that will come in 2013, 11 years from now.
06:00It will declare its default in 6-7 months.
06:03And it will take 10-12 years for Pakistan
06:06to get out of this crisis.
06:11If in 3 years,
06:13Mian Nawaz was the Prime Minister
06:15and I was the Finance Minister from day 1,
06:17will you reach the level
06:19where you are the 24th economy of the world?
06:21Global.
06:22Your double-digit inflation is at 4%.
06:25That is fine.
06:26No, that is not fine.
06:27I have a question on current affairs.
06:29You don't have much time.
06:30I want to know.
06:32Look at it from that angle.
06:34I think that all stakeholders
06:36should come to one page.