Biggest Storylines From Celtics Preseason | How 'Bout Them Celtics

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Sam and Jack are back with the latest Boston Celtics chatter. They discuss the biggest storylines from the Celtics preseason, the Celtics' latest new roster moves, and Al Horford's thoughts on coming off the bench for the Celtics. Plus, they do their yearly NBA Award predictions and talk about Victor Wembanyama, Zeke Nnaji, and Ish Wainwright. Let us know your thoughts, and as always, thanks for listening to How 'Bout Them Celtics!

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0:00 Intro
2:50 Celtics waive Wenyen Gabriel, DJ Steward, cut Jay Scrubb
12:43 Celtcis preseason takeaways
24:43 Jack goes to 7uice x Johnny Cupcakes
30:12 Andre Iguodala on Jrue Holiday
33:39 Al Horford fine with bench role
37:13 Email check-in
58:52 Nuggets extend Zeke Nnaji
01:01:15 Trail Blazers pick up Ish Wainwright
01:03:03 Players who survived waivers
01:04:04 NBA Awards predictions/Victor Wembanyama
01:20:07 The Rat List
01:41:04 Outro

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00:00:00 Now, how about them damn Celtics?
00:00:10 And we are back with another episode of How 'Bout Them Celtics, Sam and I are here recording
00:00:14 on Saturday, October 21st, right around the corner from the Celtics.
00:00:18 But it would be an injustice to the podcast if we didn't start the episode with Spider-Man.
00:00:24 Because this is, I know that this has been like, this is the most wonderful time of the
00:00:30 year for you.
00:00:31 The game finally came out two days ago, and you told me you have already finished the
00:00:35 game, correct?
00:00:36 I have finished the story, yes.
00:00:39 Right before Jack texted me saying he was ready to record today, I finished.
00:00:44 It's really weird to finish this, because it's like when you finish a TV show and you're
00:00:50 like, "Oh wow, I have no purpose."
00:00:54 That's how I feel.
00:00:56 So it was a really fun process, which I'll probably talk about a little later in the
00:01:02 show.
00:01:05 But I thoroughly enjoyed the game, what I've played of it.
00:01:10 There's still side stuff that I'm going to do after I finish this with Jack.
00:01:16 I got a great deal of enjoyment out of it.
00:01:19 I think the fighting's hard as fuck.
00:01:21 Good luck with that if you're going to play this game.
00:01:23 Good luck fighting.
00:01:26 But yeah, I mean the swinging and stuff is a lot of fun.
00:01:29 You got a lot of suits.
00:01:32 I'm a big suit guy, even though you pick one suit and stick with it.
00:01:36 You just like the options.
00:01:37 Yeah, you like the options.
00:01:39 You're like, "Okay, they thought of this, they thought of that."
00:01:44 What suit did you go with?
00:01:45 Really cool stuff.
00:01:46 What suit?
00:01:47 What did yours look like?
00:01:48 Well, I liked the original suit.
00:01:49 Like this one.
00:01:50 Okay.
00:01:51 So, they have this again.
00:01:52 No, they have like a bunch of versions of the red and blue suit.
00:01:57 I didn't know there was more than one version.
00:01:59 Well, they have like the games version, they have this movie, they have the new movies,
00:02:06 they have the middle movies.
00:02:08 They all look different.
00:02:10 There's differences to them.
00:02:13 It's like if you took different jerseys from NBA teams throughout the years.
00:02:18 Let's just say the Clippers, because they've had very similar jerseys over the years, but
00:02:23 they are ever so slightly different.
00:02:25 Sure.
00:02:26 Okay, I get it.
00:02:27 That makes sense.
00:02:28 But then there are suits that are completely different.
00:02:29 Like colors and stuff.
00:02:30 Yeah, colors.
00:02:31 They have each suit has like four different colors you can have it in.
00:02:36 Okay.
00:02:38 There's a lot.
00:02:39 There's a lot.
00:02:40 I tell you, once you get a little bit of time, you play the first game, you're kind of going
00:02:43 to get what I'm getting.
00:02:45 Okay.
00:02:46 Okay.
00:02:47 I'll wait to get it.
00:02:48 I'm sure we'll talk more Spider-Man throughout the show, but let's talk a little bit of Celtics.
00:02:52 The Celtics waved DJ Stewart and Wenyan Gabriel.
00:02:56 Wenyan Gabriel is probably the more surprising one.
00:02:58 Some people thought, oh, maybe, you know, DJ Stewart could get in for a two way spot
00:03:01 because it has come out.
00:03:02 I believe Adam Himmel Spock reported, as you mentioned to me, the chase scrub is that going
00:03:05 to end up getting waved as well after he tours ACL.
00:03:08 So Celtics will now have an open two way spot as well as some flexibility at the end of
00:03:16 the roster.
00:03:17 Lamar Stevens did not get waved, so it looks like he's going to make the team.
00:03:20 But when you Gabriel's not in here, maybe because you love Lamar Stevens need that speculation.
00:03:29 Maybe when you got waved because Namiish Kata played well, by the way, got pronunciation
00:03:35 from him.
00:03:36 Bobby Manning and I were at his event in Quincy.
00:03:37 Bobby asked him, how do you pronounce your name?
00:03:39 Namiish Kata.
00:03:41 That is the name.
00:03:42 Namiish.
00:03:43 There's a shh.
00:03:44 Namiish.
00:03:45 Namiish.
00:03:46 Yeah, so straight from his mouth.
00:03:48 No questions anymore.
00:03:49 It's Namiish.
00:03:50 All right.
00:03:51 But he looks good.
00:03:53 Any surprises?
00:03:54 I mean, DJ Stewart's also surprised thoughts on when we kind of speculated this after we
00:03:58 saw the way things weird because over the past season in a couple of seasons, he's actually
00:04:05 like logged NBA minutes like he was a rotation piece of the Lakers last year and the Lakers
00:04:10 were considered by many to be one of the better teams in the league.
00:04:13 They made the West.
00:04:14 It's odd.
00:04:15 Well, they got a little bit of a nice path to get there, but it's neither here nor there.
00:04:22 They ended up watching when you get overlooked for Namiish Namiish and he earned it.
00:04:30 I mean, he looked awesome in when you Gabriel, when he was on the floor for the Celtics,
00:04:33 didn't do a whole lot.
00:04:34 He didn't do much to turn people's heads or impress.
00:04:37 Look tense, looked rushed.
00:04:39 DJ Stewart never saw any legitimate run.
00:04:42 He wasn't playing alongside rotation guys.
00:04:45 Namiish was.
00:04:46 He looked great.
00:04:47 He had a great finale against Charlotte.
00:04:51 Six of 612 points was dominant inside.
00:04:56 He was not afraid to go to the cup and finish strong.
00:04:59 That was a great thing to see.
00:05:00 I don't even know if when you played outside of garbage time, which was essentially the
00:05:04 whole second in the fourth quarter.
00:05:07 Yeah, yeah.
00:05:09 It's not very surprising that he didn't make the roster, but the more interesting part
00:05:13 is that the Celtics now have a little bit of flexibility and I compiled a list of tentative
00:05:17 options for two way contract, some of which are less realistic than others, some of which
00:05:22 as Sam is laughing now because he hasn't seen the list yet.
00:05:25 Some of which are more funny.
00:05:26 First one, Joey Hauser got by the jazz and the Clippers.
00:05:31 Bringing the housers together would be kind of funny.
00:05:33 He's pretty much the same player as his brother.
00:05:35 He's just a sniper.
00:05:36 He's a tall guy who can shoot.
00:05:38 That's about all you need.
00:05:39 Jason Preston would be Jason Preston's a guard.
00:05:43 He spent the past couple of years with the Clippers.
00:05:45 You like what he can do.
00:05:46 We like what he can do in college.
00:05:47 He wrote for fans at its best insights.
00:05:49 So one, you know, blog boy respect.
00:05:52 Appreciate it.
00:05:53 Maybe bring him in.
00:05:54 It's back to back.
00:05:55 Malik Fitz, Matt Ryan, bring one of them in.
00:05:56 Come on.
00:05:57 They both got waived.
00:05:58 They're both no longer on the roster's experience.
00:06:01 Exactly.
00:06:02 That's it.
00:06:03 Carlic Jones got waived by the Bulls.
00:06:06 Do we know who this is?
00:06:07 Carlic Jones, you will when I tell you this, just dominated the World Cup.
00:06:14 Just he was on South Sudan with winning Gabriel, I believe.
00:06:22 And he was just probably a top five, top ten player at the World Cup this summer.
00:06:27 He averaged twenty point four points, shot forty eight percent for the field.
00:06:33 Three two percent from three on five attempts a game, as well as ten point six assists a
00:06:41 game in one point six turnovers.
00:06:45 And where are the rebounds?
00:06:47 I'm just checking here.
00:06:48 I don't think I'm going to be able to see.
00:06:49 Yeah.
00:06:50 Three point six rebounds.
00:06:51 But he was like, not just good at the World Cup.
00:06:54 He was like ridiculous at the World Cup.
00:06:57 So kind of surprising to see the Bulls waive him when they probably should just keep around
00:07:00 talent at this point.
00:07:02 Carlic Jones, 25 years old.
00:07:05 He only has two years, 12 games of NBA experience, spent a lot of time in the G League, though,
00:07:10 using the Windy City Bulls this past year, averaged twenty six points, four point four
00:07:15 rebounds, seven assists, one point seven steals, forty eight percent from the field, thirty
00:07:19 six percent from deep.
00:07:21 He can play.
00:07:22 So, yeah, if they're if they're following the line of let's go with G.L.E. guys who
00:07:26 played really well, Nimi Ishketa and guys who played at the World Cup well, which was
00:07:31 probably the idea with the onion.
00:07:33 Carlic Jones, like he's right there.
00:07:35 We've talked about bringing in some extra guard help potentially if JD is not going
00:07:38 to work out just so you have extra pathways to go with moving forward.
00:07:42 Carlic Jones is there and he played really well at the World Cup, so I thought it'd be
00:07:44 interesting.
00:07:45 He sounds like an interesting prospect.
00:07:48 I think it is interesting for Chicago to be waiving him again.
00:07:51 One of those teams where I'm not convinced they should have the right to waive guys like
00:07:57 they're not really good enough to be waiving people.
00:07:59 But I think the Celtics are not in need of that, or maybe they are, because if you look
00:08:05 behind Peyton Pritchard, there isn't anybody I really want out there with the ball from
00:08:09 the guard spot like I really want J.D. Davis and playing NBA minutes.
00:08:13 D.J. Stewart is no more.
00:08:15 So if you want to fill that hole small, but as small as it may be, he's six.
00:08:20 He is also a small six foot.
00:08:21 So he's a short.
00:08:22 I mean, you could do that.
00:08:25 Why not?
00:08:26 Why not?
00:08:27 But John Butler, another name I put on this list, this is completely random.
00:08:32 We're not going to spend a lot of time on it.
00:08:33 I just remember writing about him coming out of the draft saying, like, oh, the Celtics
00:08:36 should take a flyer.
00:08:38 From what I remember, he's fairly skinny, but he is just like giant seven footer, crazy
00:08:43 wingspan blocks a lot of shots.
00:08:45 And he shot a little bit in college.
00:08:46 And I was just like, that could look cool next to Rob.
00:08:50 And so he was something I wrote about.
00:08:52 So to see him get waived, I was like, my eyes perked up at the very least.
00:08:55 He hasn't done much and he hasn't been like amazing in the G League or anything.
00:08:57 But I just remember writing about him and was like, oh, he got waived.
00:09:00 I wonder if it's something that it just just my dumb ass brain running basically in the
00:09:06 G League this past year.
00:09:07 He only played in six games and he averaged like five, like eight, four and one and three
00:09:12 point two blocks, though.
00:09:13 So he like he's a shopper.
00:09:15 Sure.
00:09:16 Just somebody Nathan Knight name you should maybe know.
00:09:21 Do you know Nathan Knight?
00:09:22 I do not know Nathan Knight.
00:09:24 You will when I explain the context.
00:09:25 Nathan Knight is low key a Celtics killer.
00:09:29 I believe it was this past season or maybe it was two years ago.
00:09:33 He was on the Timberwolves that night where they just.
00:09:36 Oh, he was.
00:09:38 And he was one of the guys that played fairly well, if I remember correctly.
00:09:41 His season high twenty twenty one twenty two season had twenty points, eleven rebounds,
00:09:46 four assists in twenty nine minutes in a five point win against the Celtics.
00:09:50 I would imagine.
00:09:51 Well, I was mad as hell.
00:09:52 Yeah.
00:09:53 I mean, one of two games he had that season, 15 points or more.
00:09:57 So if Brad is going with, OK, let's science feel a sign of a let's sign all these guys.
00:10:02 Nathan Knight would fit to Bill and he's a fine player.
00:10:04 Nathan, like he is six foot ten.
00:10:06 He's a power forward center.
00:10:09 He plays with intensity.
00:10:10 That's something we saw in that game and you've seen throughout his time there playing the
00:10:14 G League a decent amount.
00:10:16 That's a lie.
00:10:17 It's lied to your face.
00:10:18 He doesn't play in the G League a lot.
00:10:19 He hasn't played a lot.
00:10:20 I was assuming because he hasn't played in the NBA a lot, but no, he hasn't.
00:10:23 But three years in a row with Atlanta, Nathan, I think maybe he retired.
00:10:30 Hasn't been playing a lot.
00:10:31 No, he was just waived by the Knicks like today.
00:10:34 So it's not retired.
00:10:35 Maybe he retired today.
00:10:36 No, but Nathan Knight, another guy and then Scottie Pippen Jr. played for the Lakers last
00:10:41 year.
00:10:42 There isn't too much to this other than would be cool if the Celtics got him and he turned
00:10:46 into something good just to spite the Lakers.
00:10:48 That was effectively my thought process.
00:10:49 He's a six foot one guard.
00:10:51 He defends pretty well from what I know.
00:10:53 The average 21 points in the G League, 4.1 rebounds, 5.6 assists, 1.6 steals, shot 47
00:10:59 30.
00:11:00 So it's not great, but like if he panned out, he was an okay defensive guard would be cool
00:11:04 because the Lakers had him and then they lost him.
00:11:06 So that was that was my thought process.
00:11:07 Speaking of guys that the Lakers had and then lost Cole Swider, who has been very good for
00:11:12 Miami, will be with Miami, which you tweeted about today.
00:11:16 Would have been cool to have him on the Celtics in one of those two way spots because he's
00:11:19 from Rhode Island and he's been very good for Miami in the preseason.
00:11:23 So just another guy to keep your eyes on is the Celtics get torched by Miami with some
00:11:29 guy you never heard of these guys.
00:11:33 I think Carlic Jones sticks out as an interesting prospect.
00:11:36 Both Fitz and Ryan are guys I wouldn't be opposed to bringing back either just because
00:11:40 they've been here.
00:11:42 Fitz was great when he was with the Celtics.
00:11:44 Just bringing the vibes to the bench.
00:11:46 Blake Griffin is not on the team anymore, so you could always use a new vibes guy.
00:11:50 Would be kind of hilarious if they brought in Joey Hauser as well.
00:11:54 But some of the conversation we had in this little two way guy review has really made
00:11:59 me think of how great it will be when they have expansion because you're going to see
00:12:03 so many more opportunities for guys like a Carlic Jones who's getting waved by the Bulls
00:12:09 to display his talent like he might have done in the World Cup.
00:12:12 Like he was so great in the World Cup.
00:12:13 Why can he not do that in the NBA?
00:12:15 Well, he's not really given much of an opportunity.
00:12:17 You're gonna see so much more opportunities to be so cool.
00:12:20 Carlic Jones, by the way, won MVP in the G League, I believe.
00:12:24 Nimesh Gaita got runner up.
00:12:26 So that is also the dichotomy there.
00:12:28 Yes.
00:12:29 But yeah, those are some guys I threw together just off the dome and looking through spot
00:12:35 tracks transaction list.
00:12:38 I was just skimming spot tracks as transaction list and looked at guys who looked interesting.
00:12:44 So preseason is finally over.
00:12:47 Regular season right around the corner.
00:12:48 Let's let's recap the preseason a bit here with some talking points.
00:12:51 And if I may choose the starting point, Porzingis is fucking cool.
00:12:56 Just a little bit.
00:12:57 Just for a little bit.
00:12:58 We've said it over and over again.
00:12:59 I believe I had that exact same phrasing when we talked about it with Corrales the other
00:13:02 day.
00:13:03 He's just awesome.
00:13:05 Sorry, but Christoph Porzingis is everything that we hoped he would be.
00:13:11 I remember I said this before preseason.
00:13:13 I said he is not just going to elevate the team.
00:13:15 He's going to completely change the way they play offense.
00:13:18 He's completely changing the way it's like he's just always open and having a guy as
00:13:23 good as him always open is crazy.
00:13:25 Like it's sick.
00:13:26 It's just always open.
00:13:27 He's always open.
00:13:28 He is.
00:13:29 He literally.
00:13:30 And that's not me saying it.
00:13:31 That's from his mouth.
00:13:32 He goes, yeah, these guys draw so much attention that I just fucking take every shot.
00:13:35 I'm just open, man.
00:13:37 Dude, he's he's becoming one of the more fire personalities on this team where he's just
00:13:41 like, oh, my God, I can't believe like how easy this has become for me.
00:13:47 Porzingis has exceeded any expectation I had for him coming in.
00:13:52 I don't know about what your expectations were, where they were at.
00:13:56 I know we both were high on him.
00:13:58 We both thought he was going to contribute greatly.
00:14:00 We both thought he was going to change the offense like he has.
00:14:03 But I don't know if we all thought he would be this good.
00:14:05 We're looking at a guy that's brand new to the team and he's looking like he's going
00:14:09 to be the second option.
00:14:10 Or at least at first, he's going to be because nobody's defending him.
00:14:16 You're muted.
00:14:17 Sorry, I was just laughing.
00:14:19 I'm sending a text for something.
00:14:22 I don't know if he'll actually be the second option over Jalen, but you can see him getting
00:14:27 more easy looks than Jalen just because of the way he's going to play off the stars.
00:14:31 I feel like Jalen and Jason will be doing a lot of the, oh yeah, we'll dribble, we'll
00:14:36 create the offense and KP will just benefit from that.
00:14:40 And I think that's where you see him maybe take some of those.
00:14:42 I don't want to say take the opportunities from Jalen, but take some of the points and
00:14:46 cut into the scoring that Jalen would otherwise provide.
00:14:48 But I'm all in.
00:14:50 And remember before this, we were like, can they get three all-stars?
00:14:53 Yes.
00:14:54 Yeah, they can have two MVPs.
00:14:57 Yeah.
00:14:58 KP is awesome.
00:14:59 But to avoid talking about that for the whole time.
00:15:01 Another one, you had it back to back here.
00:15:03 I just skipped it.
00:15:04 Pritchard also just fucking sick.
00:15:06 Just so good.
00:15:07 I think he was like top five in preseason scoring before a certain point.
00:15:13 Just killing it.
00:15:14 He's just nasty.
00:15:15 And they Celtics got him for cheap, which is phenomenal.
00:15:17 Yeah, they inked him to an extension.
00:15:20 Then he said, hey, watch this and just went out there and lit everybody up for the whole
00:15:24 preseason or for a lot of the preseason.
00:15:27 He didn't have the most efficient game against Charlotte in the last game, but he had a lot
00:15:30 of assists, which was another great thing to just see.
00:15:35 He didn't have the shot that day.
00:15:37 He was able to make things easy for his teammates.
00:15:39 It was awesome.
00:15:41 To go a little bit further into what we've seen from Pritchard, we've seen that he's
00:15:45 ready for a major bench role.
00:15:47 It was something coming into the year we weren't really sure about.
00:15:50 Celtics had offloaded.
00:15:52 He could be a six-man candidate, maybe.
00:15:55 Like seriously, he could be.
00:15:56 It's not crazy.
00:15:57 It's crazy.
00:15:58 That's a crapshoot award to an extent, because you really don't know who's going to throw
00:16:00 a drive and a bench role just yet.
00:16:02 Unless there's repeat guys, which there really isn't.
00:16:05 Hero probably will start.
00:16:06 Brogdon's on a new team.
00:16:09 Off the top of my head, I can't tell you a bunch of six-man guys.
00:16:12 We'll get into it later.
00:16:13 Spoiler alert.
00:16:14 We sure will.
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00:16:56 I'm amped for Pritchard.
00:17:01 He looks so confident.
00:17:02 He's ready to play after sitting on the bench for a year.
00:17:05 And man, he's just got everything.
00:17:08 He's got supreme confidence.
00:17:09 He wants to shoot threes.
00:17:11 He's able to get crafty inside a little bit.
00:17:13 Awesome to watch.
00:17:14 Speaking of six men, I'm just going off the sheet that you put together.
00:17:17 So thank you for the lob.
00:17:18 I'll throw it down.
00:17:20 Starting lineup, we just talked about six men.
00:17:22 It sounds like it's probably going to be Derek White with Al Horvath coming off the bench.
00:17:25 We saw that in the last two preseason games.
00:17:28 Even though Al was out in that last game.
00:17:29 But it seemed like they were trying to treat those as more regular.
00:17:32 You know, we'll do this.
00:17:33 We'll do this.
00:17:34 I do wonder if that means like maybe Al sets a bit more than we're thinking, which is fine.
00:17:38 Right?
00:17:39 You let him get that rest.
00:17:40 But the starting lineup with Derek White and Charlie looks so good.
00:17:43 Like on defense, like they had, I know I'm going to preface this.
00:17:47 Yes, it was the Hornets.
00:17:48 Yes, they're terrible.
00:17:50 Objectively, like from what we watched.
00:17:51 They're still a team you're going to have to play this year.
00:17:53 They're one of one of 29.
00:17:55 Celtics had 22 steals against them.
00:17:59 Like and not all of them were just them throwing the ball away.
00:18:01 Like Derek White and Chris Dobbs and drew all these hounding guys on the defensive end.
00:18:07 Like that defense is going to be disgusting.
00:18:09 Chris Dobbs was getting blocks.
00:18:10 Derek White was getting blocks.
00:18:13 This defense is going to be really good.
00:18:14 And that starting lineup with the guards and Chris Dobbs like Joe talking about this the
00:18:19 other day, or I think it was, I don't know, it was Joe or Alec practice, but I think it
00:18:22 was Joe.
00:18:23 And he was like, there's this misconception that to be a great defensive team, like people
00:18:27 are thinking we're sacrificing defense because we might run smaller instead of double bigs.
00:18:31 Like we can just be a great defensive team in a slightly different way.
00:18:35 Like that's not a quantum.
00:18:36 Like that's not the only qualification for a good defensive team.
00:18:40 And he also, I don't want to get too off track, but Gary Washburn basically said, you know,
00:18:44 you only shot 40 something threes against the Hornets because Gary's whole thing is
00:18:48 like mocking Joe for quote, wanting to taking 53 is respect.
00:18:51 Joe goes, Joe, Joe immediately goes back and even goes, yeah, cause we got 22 steals.
00:18:56 So we were in transition the whole fucking game.
00:18:58 That's why I didn't take a bunch of threes.
00:18:59 Like we were in transition and he, he just wanted this long rant.
00:19:02 He's like, you know, that's the difference.
00:19:05 Like, well, yeah, we want to take the reason if we get in transition, we're getting to
00:19:07 go like this whole rant.
00:19:09 He ends by going, he's just getting rattled.
00:19:11 He's fired himself up there at the podium.
00:19:14 He goes, you know, so Gary's like, so just good defense mean you won't take as many
00:19:17 threes.
00:19:18 He goes, no, cause Trent goes, turnovers don't mean good defense, right?
00:19:21 Like you can play good defense and not get a ton of turnovers.
00:19:23 Like Joe was just go.
00:19:25 And this was all after the presser ended too.
00:19:27 Like this was just talking for the sake of it.
00:19:30 It was, it was very funny.
00:19:32 I, like everyone shut off their cameras and Joe just goes, he just starts going like,
00:19:36 we didn't take a bunch of threes.
00:19:37 Cause like he starts like popping off after all the cameras come down.
00:19:42 But I'm this starting lineup looks so sick.
00:19:44 And again, I, every time we talk about this, I mentioned it, but you were a big start out
00:19:47 guy.
00:19:48 Are we good with the Derek lineup or is that, do you think they'll roll with that?
00:19:53 Uh, you know, I think they will depending on, you know, if there's any matchup thing
00:19:59 that needs to be taken care of, but I thought they looked really good against the Hornets.
00:20:04 They got off to a much better start than they did against the fellows version of the Knicks
00:20:08 in, in fairness, not hard to look good.
00:20:11 Not, not hard.
00:20:12 Right.
00:20:13 But Lonello is a solid player.
00:20:14 So they had a little bit of a defensive assignment there.
00:20:17 I think, I don't know if he's at the string, the pressure of Joe just goes, yeah, we're
00:20:22 not going to be playing bad teams every night.
00:20:24 So we're not going to be 22.
00:20:28 That's literally, that's like a little like preview of just beef, but like the Hornets
00:20:33 have like a little bit of bulletin board material.
00:20:35 Not that I care.
00:20:36 I mean, listen, more bulletin board material.
00:20:38 I'm not like afraid of the Hornets having both.
00:20:40 I don't even think you meant it, meant it in a bad way, but it was just like, yeah,
00:20:44 but like last year, Eddie house was like the magic or a bad team.
00:20:46 Then they beat the Celtics twice and all the players were like talking about it.
00:20:49 So it is a thing.
00:20:51 People hear things, especially NBA players.
00:20:53 They're so sensitive.
00:20:54 They're literally like Hornets are just terrible though.
00:20:57 They are terrible.
00:20:58 They are terrible.
00:20:59 But the South's got off to a great start just to switch back to Porzingis ever so slightly,
00:21:04 but he goes into the starting lineup aspect in him being the lone big guy.
00:21:07 He was dominant as the big guy in the first half, double, double at the half.
00:21:10 He was on the offensive glass, putting up putbacks through contact and getting to the
00:21:15 line.
00:21:16 He looked awesome.
00:21:17 They couldn't, they had no answer for Christophe's Porzingis Charlotte.
00:21:20 I mean, it's Charlotte, but still to see him have to take on the responsibility of being
00:21:24 the center and it going extremely well.
00:21:27 Awesome.
00:21:28 Great for Porzingis.
00:21:29 Great for the Celtics.
00:21:30 Great for Joe's small ball starting lineup.
00:21:32 If you want to call it that, cause it's kind of not small ball, but it is.
00:21:36 Yeah.
00:21:37 Yeah.
00:21:38 I mean, it's, it's, I'm so excited.
00:21:43 This team is good.
00:21:44 All the defensive stuff they're doing is super cool.
00:21:46 It seems like Joe is more like, okay, yeah, we got to actually like, I actually have to
00:21:50 coach them on defense.
00:21:51 Which is basically like, they're not just going to try.
00:21:53 I have to tell them to try.
00:21:55 Speaking of Joe, put it on the sheet too.
00:21:58 He's been so cool.
00:21:59 Like he's just been really a lot more open.
00:22:01 He's been a lot more willing to answer questions.
00:22:04 He did shit on me for asking if they're going to guard small and big guys.
00:22:07 And he was just like, yeah, we're going to have to do both.
00:22:09 I'm like, sorry, Joe, my bad.
00:22:12 Start writing your hit piece.
00:22:14 Revenge.
00:22:15 Except the differences.
00:22:16 When I write that's Jack's villain origin story.
00:22:20 Nah, Joe's been great.
00:22:22 I think he's been a lot more open and he's fun this year too, which is like last, last
00:22:26 year, Joe was like very closed off and almost combative when he was talking to the press
00:22:32 and he just seems more open and willing to chat this year and very vocal.
00:22:35 Has anyone asked him about that?
00:22:39 I don't think so.
00:22:40 I think it might be something interesting for you to ask, not for our sake, but it could
00:22:45 be a good self-explanatory piece.
00:22:46 I can't remember.
00:22:47 I can't remember if somebody asked it at the start of the year.
00:22:48 I think he talked about it briefly on the JJ Reddick pod, but yeah, man, I'm hyped for
00:22:53 Joe.
00:22:54 Anything else we missed about the preseason?
00:22:55 I think, I mean, obviously Nimesh Keita has been sick, but Nimesh Keita led the league
00:23:00 in preseason field goal percentage, by the way, and offensive rebounding percentage.
00:23:04 So taking off where Rob left off.
00:23:06 Beast.
00:23:07 Yeah.
00:23:08 I think just some interesting things Joe has done on the court.
00:23:12 The pressing, that's interesting.
00:23:13 Something to keep your eyes out for when the season rolls around.
00:23:16 How are they going to muck up games against teams, create chaos?
00:23:21 Listen, Hornets, bad team.
00:23:24 Knicks version of the fellas, technically a bad team, but I'd love to see what they're
00:23:29 going to do when they play Milwaukee, a full strength Knicks, Miami the first week.
00:23:35 Are they still going to press?
00:23:36 Is it going to work?
00:23:37 Maybe.
00:23:38 I don't know if it's going to work against Spolster.
00:23:41 I feel like he'll be kind of ready for it, but I do like that Joe's experimenting with
00:23:44 crazy shit to throw curve balls in the playoffs.
00:23:47 I know he's mentioned the curve ball quite a bit.
00:23:49 I think you need a curve ball as a coach every once in a while.
00:23:52 I mean, you saw Spolster throw curve balls all series last year, last two years, last
00:23:57 three and four years.
00:23:58 I mean, that's how Miami is stuck with the Celtics team.
00:24:02 That's probably a better team in every single series.
00:24:05 Yet two of them went seven games in the Celtics, lost the one that didn't.
00:24:09 I mean, yeah, you have to have things that are adjustments to screw up the other team.
00:24:13 It's going to make things so much easier for you.
00:24:15 Definitely.
00:24:16 Yeah, I'm in for Joe.
00:24:18 I'm in for the season.
00:24:19 Preseason went well.
00:24:20 W in my book.
00:24:21 But next thing we got you and they lose this.
00:24:25 They lost once.
00:24:26 Yeah, they lost to.
00:24:28 Yeah, they lost the game.
00:24:31 They didn't play anybody.
00:24:32 The Knicks.
00:24:33 Yes, yes.
00:24:34 The one game I bet on them to win is.
00:24:35 Yes, I have four and oh, I'm pretty sure that's.
00:24:39 Fuck you.
00:24:40 You're right today.
00:24:41 You will get there today.
00:24:43 I went to the juice slash X, whatever you call it.
00:24:47 Johnny Cupcakes collaboration with Jalen Brown in Boston at Newberry Street at Johnny Cupcakes
00:24:53 location.
00:24:54 I'll pull up my Twitter because I shared some photos and did you get anything?
00:24:58 But I talked to Johnny Cupcakes.
00:25:01 I talked to a couple of people from the juice team.
00:25:02 I talked to us.
00:25:03 Oh, no, no, I did not.
00:25:06 But these are what the shirts look like.
00:25:08 They're very cool.
00:25:09 They're limited, though, so I'm not going to ask for anything.
00:25:10 But it comes in this box.
00:25:12 They were like one hundred dollars each.
00:25:15 They're one hundred dollars for a T-shirt.
00:25:16 I think so.
00:25:17 I think that much.
00:25:18 Yeah.
00:25:19 And you had to buy two to get an autograph.
00:25:20 Oh, my gosh, that's robbery.
00:25:21 No wonder.
00:25:22 He was so friendly with all these people.
00:25:26 They're very cool, though.
00:25:27 It's it comes in like the cereal box kind of thing.
00:25:31 This is one.
00:25:32 It's like a light bulb.
00:25:34 Fun.
00:25:35 These are all the designs, but I have full pictures of them.
00:25:37 So you want this is like the back.
00:25:38 This is the logo.
00:25:39 A limited edition collab.
00:25:42 These are the full.
00:25:43 These are the other ones.
00:25:44 No juice, no cupcakes.
00:25:45 The joke being juice is called juice, but they don't sell juice and cupcakes is Johnny
00:25:48 Cupcakes.
00:25:49 They don't sell cupcakes, which is funny.
00:25:52 I guess that was something they kept saying.
00:25:54 This is a cool shirt.
00:25:55 It's just the box on a shirt.
00:25:56 But I mean, the designs are cool.
00:25:58 This is probably my favorite one.
00:25:59 I like that one, too.
00:26:00 I was going to give you one if you were getting a shirt.
00:26:04 Not for one hundred dollars.
00:26:07 This is another thing.
00:26:08 This is Jalen at the event.
00:26:10 This is when he first got there.
00:26:11 It got very packed and very busy, very fast.
00:26:14 This is him with Johnny Cupcakes.
00:26:15 Legend.
00:26:16 He was Johnny Cupcakes.
00:26:18 Very nice guy.
00:26:19 Very cool.
00:26:20 Very personable.
00:26:21 So shout out him.
00:26:23 This is him meeting Alex, who was the fan who was there.
00:26:26 He got there at three a.m. and then he he wasn't wearing the Lakers jersey, by the way.
00:26:30 I was listening on other platforms.
00:26:32 Lakers jersey.
00:26:33 He wasn't wearing this when we pulled up and talked to him.
00:26:35 He just put it on to meet Jalen, which is just like a rat.
00:26:39 Yeah, that's an ultimate disrespect move.
00:26:41 Like what are we doing?
00:26:43 Yeah, so that's that's a bit whack.
00:26:46 Also, they were supposed to have Jalen sign the shirts they bought.
00:26:51 And then everyone just came in with jerseys and had Jalen sign the jerseys.
00:26:54 No one had signed the shirts they bought.
00:26:58 So there's that.
00:27:00 Somebody brought this.
00:27:01 This is a full cardboard cutout of Jalen Brown to the event.
00:27:06 Someone just rocked up with it in the store and had him sign it, which was super funny.
00:27:10 I respect that.
00:27:11 Yeah, it's just a kid, too.
00:27:12 He just brought it in.
00:27:13 So that was fun.
00:27:14 I think Cam Tabatabai posted some other pictures that were taken by actual photographers.
00:27:20 Yep.
00:27:21 Shout out Air Miss Martinez.
00:27:22 We met him there.
00:27:23 He sent us some pictures.
00:27:24 It was cool.
00:27:25 Jalen at the event, him signing boxes.
00:27:30 This is Jalen Johnny Cupcakes and I need to get this name correct.
00:27:34 And set free Richardson, who upset it up.
00:27:37 He like works with NBA players.
00:27:38 He was talking to us.
00:27:39 He said, yeah, I've connected with, you know, Kemba connected with Marcus.
00:27:42 I think he said Kyrie to stop.
00:27:45 Nice guy.
00:27:46 Don't shut up.
00:27:47 He's a great guy.
00:27:49 Very nice.
00:27:50 I got some quotes from him to basically saying like, yeah, that you went out to dinner was
00:27:53 an idea.
00:27:54 We they only came up with this idea like a month ago.
00:27:57 So this is a very quick, like, get it out, get it rolling.
00:28:00 But yeah, and shout out Air Miss Marti Air Miss Martinez for the now I lagged, but let
00:28:05 it be known, Alex is a rat.
00:28:08 You got that out.
00:28:09 Don't worry.
00:28:10 You got I did.
00:28:11 OK, Alex, rat move, rat move to show up to a Jalen event.
00:28:14 Not only show up with the Lakers jersey, but be the first person there and then put the
00:28:18 Lakers jersey on.
00:28:19 So you go up there first.
00:28:21 He was legitimately there since three of the.
00:28:23 What was his story?
00:28:25 It's crazy.
00:28:26 That's it.
00:28:27 That's all we got.
00:28:28 You get nothing for you.
00:28:29 He was like, well, he was he's a huge Jalen fans.
00:28:31 He was just like, yeah, I love Jalen, man.
00:28:33 I just want to be here and be a fan.
00:28:35 Yeah, I don't know.
00:28:36 I don't really get that part.
00:28:38 He left before we could ask him about the Lakers jersey.
00:28:40 We were going to.
00:28:41 But yeah, the event was cool.
00:28:43 Jalen was there.
00:28:44 It was a two to four event and we didn't leave until like six.
00:28:47 So he was there, man, people.
00:28:49 It was fun.
00:28:50 He was like the reason it took so long was because Jalen was just like having a conversation
00:28:53 with everybody who walked up.
00:28:55 I mean, you should have for two hundred dollars to get up there.
00:28:59 It was very nice.
00:29:00 It was very nice.
00:29:01 It was a well run event.
00:29:02 Everyone at Johnny Cupcakes was cool.
00:29:03 And the story, if you want, you know, some cool T-shirts, go to Johnny Cupcakes, New
00:29:07 Bear Street's a very cool store.
00:29:08 Like the whole thing is all the T-shirts are black.
00:29:11 They called it a fakery.
00:29:13 Not good for pet owners.
00:29:16 No, I think there's some other color.
00:29:19 There's some other colored ones there, too.
00:29:21 There is I think this is the right logo.
00:29:23 Let me wear the Jalen ones multicolored, too, or no, no, all those are black.
00:29:27 They have a Seinfeld designed one, though, where it's the Seinfeld like it's a blue shirt
00:29:31 with the Seinfeld logo.
00:29:32 It says Johnny Cupcakes.
00:29:34 You figured you'd like that.
00:29:35 I would like that.
00:29:37 But yeah, shout out them.
00:29:38 They were cool.
00:29:39 Have you seen Seinfeld at all?
00:29:40 No.
00:29:41 Oh, you're missing out.
00:29:42 Yeah, no.
00:29:43 That's something you can just put on while you're working.
00:29:45 I've heard plenty of stories about Kramer because my mom likens me to him, although
00:29:51 I don't see it as much.
00:29:52 Maybe you just meet in my personal life, but I don't see it either.
00:29:58 I know.
00:29:59 No, it's I've you're more of a George.
00:30:02 I feel like I just got insulted.
00:30:04 You did.
00:30:05 But you enjoy the next thing like, uh, yes.
00:30:10 All right.
00:30:11 So there's a quick one, but Andre Iguodala, newly retired, went on to first take because
00:30:17 that's what you do when you're retired.
00:30:19 And he had some things to say about you holiday.
00:30:21 The two were teammates for a couple of years while they were in Philadelphia.
00:30:24 But a very nice things to say about you says he's the most underrated player of his generation.
00:30:31 Is he really?
00:30:33 Maybe he probably he probably gets a very underrated outlook on his career because he spent so
00:30:40 much time in New Orleans and then Milwaukee.
00:30:43 He won the championship once he got there, but he spent the bulk of his prime playing
00:30:47 for the Pelicans, a team that nobody really paid much attention to.
00:30:51 And I mean, they even made the playoffs a couple of years.
00:30:53 Nobody was talking about him.
00:30:54 I remember when he was about to get traded to Milwaukee, there were rumors of the Celtics
00:31:00 maybe being interested in him and it was going to have to be Kemba and some draft picks.
00:31:05 I just want to be like, really Kemba for him.
00:31:09 So if that doesn't say drew holidays and underrated player, I don't know what does it would have
00:31:15 been like Kemba and some picks for drew holiday instead of Milwaukee.
00:31:20 It was a rumor years and years ago, like right before the Milwaukee trade happened on the
00:31:24 show.
00:31:25 And I was like, no, absolutely not.
00:31:26 Don't do that.
00:31:27 That's dumb.
00:31:28 I would've done it.
00:31:29 That'd be great.
00:31:30 Maybe, maybe I think you were more in favor of it than I was, but I don't know if you
00:31:34 were all in or not.
00:31:35 Look at me, look at me go.
00:31:37 No, I mean, I guess we should have seen it like drew holidays and more of it.
00:31:41 He'd last longer just like defense and that sort of stuff.
00:31:44 I don't know though.
00:31:45 I can see why to make two all-star appearances 10 years.
00:31:49 Like, like at the beginning, like towards the end of your career and you're making all-star
00:31:53 appearances, but nothing in between.
00:31:56 That is crazy.
00:31:57 That is crazy.
00:31:59 Any other underrated guys?
00:32:00 I'll stop your head.
00:32:03 I mean, Rudy Gage just got waved probably perennially underrated.
00:32:06 He's very good.
00:32:07 He might've been overrated.
00:32:08 Rudy K. Yeah.
00:32:10 Like the teams he was on were never great.
00:32:14 The Raptors traded him and then all of a sudden got competitive when he was on Memphis.
00:32:21 I think those teams were actually not bad.
00:32:23 So maybe he's only made the playoffs.
00:32:26 He only made the playoffs three times in his career.
00:32:28 So maybe I see what you're saying, but it's tough because you look at the teams he was
00:32:34 on, those Memphis teams, like those were the young rebuilding Memphis.
00:32:37 Like he was like, he just felt like he was always the guy this team traded.
00:32:41 Cause like we have to trade somebody to get the next star and he's just good enough for
00:32:45 the other team to be interested in.
00:32:47 Sure.
00:32:48 You know what I'm saying?
00:32:49 I don't know if it's completely fair to say he was overrated.
00:32:51 I think Rudy Gage is a good player.
00:32:54 Trying to think of other ones.
00:32:55 Something ahead.
00:32:56 Andre Guadal probably underrated.
00:32:57 He's himself.
00:32:58 He's a good player.
00:32:59 Only one all-star appearance.
00:33:00 Yeah.
00:33:01 Yeah.
00:33:02 He's a good player.
00:33:03 He's a good player.
00:33:05 Conley.
00:33:06 Mike Conley is underrated.
00:33:07 Yeah.
00:33:08 Best NBA players to never make all-star game.
00:33:11 That's what I'm wondering now.
00:33:12 Jamal Crawford probably never made an all-star game, but he got a ton of like recognition.
00:33:18 Lamar Odom never made an all-star game.
00:33:21 Richard Jefferson never made an all-star game.
00:33:23 Okay.
00:33:24 I'll buy some of those.
00:33:26 Jason Terry.
00:33:27 Jason Terry was good.
00:33:29 Andre Miller.
00:33:30 Andre Miller was fire.
00:33:31 That's probably one.
00:33:32 Yeah.
00:33:33 That's a good one.
00:33:34 Andre Miller was real good.
00:33:35 Anyway, sorry.
00:33:36 Before we get too down the rabbit hole.
00:33:37 It just depends on where you play.
00:33:38 Yeah.
00:33:39 Yeah.
00:33:40 Another guy with a long career is Al Horford, who said he's okay with coming off the bench.
00:33:44 I said that at a recent practice.
00:33:46 Let me find the quote here.
00:33:47 He said, "The type of team we have, we have a lot of depth.
00:33:49 We have a lot of talented players.
00:33:50 One of our strengths is our versatility as a team.
00:33:51 So there's going to be times that we have to go in a certain way.
00:33:53 There's other times you have to play big, play small, things like that.
00:33:55 It's just the way it is.
00:33:57 I'm in a position right now that I feel we can all impact the game in a positive way.
00:34:00 That's the best thing for our group right now is to play that way.
00:34:02 There will be times that we'll play big and do things like that."
00:34:05 Also just as an aside said, "Seems to me the game comes easy to him when talking about
00:34:09 Nimi Ishikata, which is cool to hear from him."
00:34:12 But yeah, Al's basically saying he was less, "Yeah, it doesn't matter," than the other
00:34:18 guys.
00:34:19 You asked Eric White and KP.
00:34:20 They were like, "Yeah, don't care.
00:34:21 Don't care.
00:34:22 Whatever."
00:34:23 Al didn't come out and say, "Nope, don't care."
00:34:24 But you can tell that he just wants to win at this point.
00:34:27 He's ready to do what it takes.
00:34:28 Yeah.
00:34:29 He's just like, "Give me a damn ring."
00:34:30 Yeah, yeah.
00:34:31 Should already have one.
00:34:32 Probably one of the best players with that.
00:34:36 Not the best players without a ring, but he has the record before he went to the finals
00:34:40 of the most playoff games without an appearance in the finals.
00:34:42 That was his.
00:34:43 One of the best playoff careers without a championship, maybe.
00:34:46 Yes.
00:34:47 That's the way you want to put it.
00:34:48 Yes.
00:34:49 But I think, like you said, his stance on coming off the bench says volumes about his
00:34:56 dedication to winning.
00:34:57 It goes along with the theme that is run throughout the Celtics this fall, which is just being
00:35:03 all in one goal.
00:35:06 The whole team is working towards it together.
00:35:08 Not a lot of guys there are caring too much about the individual part of that.
00:35:12 Stat for you.
00:35:13 Only two players, two players have more playoff games played than Al Horford without a championship.
00:35:20 Who are they?
00:35:21 Give me a second to think.
00:35:24 I'll tell you who's tied with him because it's not a question.
00:35:26 Jim Perkins is tied with him.
00:35:28 James Harden is at 160 blown.
00:35:30 But who are the two above him?
00:35:33 The players have one ninety three and one eighty two respectively.
00:35:37 I feel like Chuck's got to be one of them because Chuck was on some good Sixers teams.
00:35:42 He was on the Suns through the middle part of the 90s.
00:35:44 Then he went to Houston, but now he's not shaking.
00:35:46 One twenty three.
00:35:47 He has forty four.
00:35:49 They also had less first round games.
00:35:52 Then are these guys modern players?
00:35:55 No, no, they're not.
00:35:57 No.
00:35:58 Jerry West.
00:35:59 Or did he get one?
00:36:01 I think he got one because he's not on this list.
00:36:03 He's not on this list.
00:36:05 Shame on me.
00:36:06 I don't know.
00:36:07 I'm going to give up.
00:36:10 Should I know?
00:36:11 Yeah, they're both in the same team.
00:36:15 It's Clyde Drexler.
00:36:16 One.
00:36:17 No, you could get real mad.
00:36:18 Painfully obvious.
00:36:19 Who's the best player to never win a championship?
00:36:25 Two of the best players to never win a championship.
00:36:29 Both on the same team.
00:36:30 Very good basketball players.
00:36:32 Questionable people.
00:36:33 Questionable people.
00:36:34 Oh, yeah, there you go.
00:36:35 I don't know.
00:36:36 Stockton, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:36:37 Did he do something I don't know about?
00:36:43 He's just promoting a bunch of like vaccinations, a scam, you know, microchips in your brain.
00:36:48 He's just like him.
00:36:49 He was handshake Kyrie.
00:36:52 But yeah, Karl Malone, interesting taste.
00:36:55 Yeah, that's an obvious one.
00:36:56 I can't believe I didn't think of that.
00:36:57 Yeah, that's why I didn't want to tell you.
00:36:58 I was like, yeah, let's let him get there.
00:37:01 Yeah.
00:37:02 Horford.
00:37:03 Anyways, Al's ready to do what it takes.
00:37:05 Different tastes than Karl Malone.
00:37:06 Respect.
00:37:07 We'll say that.
00:37:08 Respect.
00:37:09 We love Al Horford on this podcast.
00:37:10 We'll put it that way.
00:37:11 All right, let's check in with the emails.
00:37:15 We have good emails.
00:37:17 A lot of emails is what we have.
00:37:19 Let me pull it up here.
00:37:21 We do, in fact, have mail.
00:37:23 Let me pull it up here.
00:37:25 Just give me a sec.
00:37:28 Go from backwards to forward.
00:37:30 We'll start with RJ.
00:37:32 A brief look back.
00:37:33 All right.
00:37:34 After afternoon, guys, sometimes I see where you're going and it pays or sometimes to see
00:37:38 where you're going.
00:37:39 It pays to look back to where you were not very far back either.
00:37:42 Everyone learns in their own way.
00:37:43 Some people want to practice and work kinks out and don't care what they look like until
00:37:46 they get it right.
00:37:47 Others want to do the reps privately until they have it down.
00:37:50 There's no right or wrong way as long as you know who likes doing which way.
00:37:54 During the first quarter of the Knicks game before the first substitution at 6-12, wow,
00:37:58 this is in depth.
00:37:59 The Celtics played with quick pace, moving without the ball and passing the ball to find
00:38:04 the guy with the best shot.
00:38:05 This is from Wednesday, by the way, three days ago.
00:38:07 So it's a little Celtics had 13 possessions and everyone and everyone ended a position
00:38:11 at least twice except Drew Holiday, who only had one but had an assist and offensive rebound.
00:38:17 Nice balance, right?
00:38:18 It was almost identical twin to the start of the previous game in Philly.
00:38:20 13 positions, the first 633 when Bain subbed in.
00:38:25 And in that time, the possession ended in Porzingis, Hauser and White's hands three
00:38:28 times while while Al and Drew finished to each.
00:38:32 Everyone joked in Philly in the Philly game about Coach Mizzou will never benching one
00:38:36 of the Jays for not driving to the floor, diving to the floor fast enough.
00:38:39 But I think them sitting out Philly might have been a different teaching moment.
00:38:43 It showed that winning Celtics basketball was going to be played by whoever was on the
00:38:46 court at a different time.
00:38:47 No need to be the hero to be ball dominant to play the right way to win.
00:38:50 I joke about armchair analyst reading too much into things so I could absolutely be
00:38:53 off base here, but it's at least something different to look at as we head toward the
00:38:57 regular season.
00:38:58 Be well, RJ PS.
00:38:59 I may miss tomorrow's playback session as it's a birthday for my twins like you guys
00:39:02 a lot, but they went hands down.
00:39:03 No complaints here.
00:39:04 Respect to the Johnson if we were twins, maybe, but we're not.
00:39:10 I think that's a good point.
00:39:11 I mean, I definitely didn't notice.
00:39:12 It's not something I went in depth on, but to see how like spread the possessions were
00:39:16 is cool, and I think that's how you're going to see Celtics basketball be played this season.
00:39:20 Much to the happiness of Sam and myself, but Sam is big on the passing.
00:39:25 Yeah, I just think that's the best way you can play.
00:39:27 I think there are times in games where you need to go to your best guys.
00:39:31 Tatum needs to have a shot at the end of the game, whatever it may be right, but you have
00:39:35 so many different options this year.
00:39:37 You need to take advantage of it.
00:39:38 You should be playing widespread basketball where guys are playing a more fluid game,
00:39:43 maybe almost towards like a college type style where you're not really trying to run through
00:39:48 anybody in particular, but like it can be anybody's night.
00:39:52 Any game.
00:39:53 That's what's going to make the Celtics dangerous.
00:39:54 It's going to be what makes them a difficult out in the playoffs because there's game plans.
00:39:59 You can throw it every single one of those guys, but it's going to take away from the
00:40:03 adjustments you've made to let's say your game planning for Jason Tatum.
00:40:07 The adjustments for Porzingis, Drew Holiday, Jalen Brown, all kind of are going to be drawn
00:40:12 back.
00:40:14 So I like to see the ball popping around and I'd imagine if we were to build off of RJ's
00:40:21 email, the trend would have continued in the Hornets game on Thursday as they came out
00:40:25 and kick the piss out of the Hornets.
00:40:28 They literally took their stickers and just ripped them right off.
00:40:31 It's great phrasing.
00:40:33 Next one.
00:40:34 New emailer.
00:40:35 Thank you to Nate Bach.
00:40:37 We appreciate you.
00:40:38 Sorry you took us along to get you.
00:40:39 This was on Thursday.
00:40:40 I was getting my haircut, but rat list Jack and Sam, congrats on the growth of the podcast.
00:40:45 I've been listening since before the name change.
00:40:47 Thanks for putting in the work and delivering great content.
00:40:49 Thanks to you.
00:40:51 My rat list.
00:40:52 Anyone who is working in a customer service role and calls you boss when taking your order
00:40:56 or waiting on you saying things like shirt thing boss or okay boss and my least favorite,
00:41:01 whatever you want boss.
00:41:03 When someone in a service role calls you boss, it is a backhand way of saying I'm better
00:41:06 than you.
00:41:07 They sarcastically call you boss as a way of belittling you like they think you're an
00:41:11 idiot and they don't want to help an idiot.
00:41:13 It shows they're immature and insecure.
00:41:15 Last week I had to upgrade my family cell phone plans or my family cell phones and ended
00:41:20 up going into the retail store because of a problem with the phones.
00:41:23 The customer service rep kept greeting me by saying, what do you need boss?
00:41:27 I immediately wanted to throw up.
00:41:29 I looked up and noticed this guy's mustache was overgrown and bushy while somehow being
00:41:36 scraggly at the same time.
00:41:38 He turned out to be the most condescending self-absorbed customer service rep in the
00:41:43 store.
00:41:44 His manager stayed with an earshot the entire time.
00:41:46 Our phones took some time to set up and the reps lunch break was about to start.
00:41:49 He complained to his manager about missing lunch break for this guy's phone in quotes.
00:41:54 His manager allowed him to go to lunch and the manager finished up.
00:41:56 The rep literally ran across the store like a little kid running out to recess, pumping
00:41:59 his arms, high knees and all.
00:42:01 I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this.
00:42:06 I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this.
00:42:08 I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this.
00:42:09 I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this.
00:42:10 I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this.
00:42:11 I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this.
00:42:12 I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this.
00:42:13 I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this.
00:42:14 I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this.
00:42:15 I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this.
00:42:16 I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this.
00:42:17 I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this.
00:42:18 I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this.
00:42:46 I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this.
00:42:53 I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this.
00:42:54 I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this.
00:42:55 I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this.
00:42:56 I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this.
00:42:57 I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this.
00:42:58 I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this.
00:42:59 I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this.
00:43:00 I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this.
00:43:01 I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this.
00:43:02 I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this.
00:43:03 I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this.
00:43:04 I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this.
00:43:28 I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this.
00:43:54 I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this.
00:44:23 say like you're gross like now I'm just gonna do it warm so go fuck yourself. No you should just
00:44:27 not wipe your nose and just have fucking snot everywhere. Like I got allergies,
00:44:32 you want for me man like I'm not gonna go off screen and blow my nose. Oh don't ask them what
00:44:36 they want out of you that's you just asked for a world of pain. You're on my back. Get ready to
00:44:41 get called fat buddy. Alternate all-star format number two back to RJ, the gym rat version.
00:44:48 Players can create their own six man squads and they play a first to 15 game, open to all players
00:44:52 so see if the boss one boys want to put in for it. If they do they're in not sure how to get
00:44:57 the championship game we can figure it out. Yeah it would be fun. I don't know if people
00:45:01 would be into it but it would be cool. Making it optional. Next bullet point you talked about the
00:45:08 city edition jersey not looking funky enough this year. I wish they could do a version honoring Mike
00:45:11 Gorman with the player's number encircled with his call take it make it or maybe just got it.
00:45:18 Either one would be better and more fitting for this year. That would have been sick.
00:45:22 Great. Great idea by RJ. Oh man they have yeah like imagine like maybe it's a green jersey with
00:45:31 a black mic and a shamrock on the mic and then the numbers in the shamrock or something and then
00:45:36 you have a got it or something on there. Yeah that'd be pretty sick. That's they should have
00:45:40 did that. He definitely already has it. We need to DM Pete Rodgers and say can you make him like
00:45:45 Gorman jersey. Yeah we should we should hit him up. It's a good idea. RJ great idea. Shout out RJ.
00:45:52 And speaking of funky if you haven't read it already pick up a copy of Terry Pluto's excellent
00:45:57 book. Look back at the ABA title loose balls. It's for as much as the 1970s NBA including Red
00:46:04 R. Bucketed competing league about the only thing the modern NBA has not taken from it is the red
00:46:10 white and blue basketball. It's a fun read and you get to see some truly funktastic uniforms.
00:46:15 Might have to pick it up. They should do something with the ABA ball. It's a cool ball.
00:46:19 Sick. Routless people who butcher my name. If I get I get it if it's a phone call and you hear RJ
00:46:27 is Andre or Archie. Heck I got called Sergei today which is at least a bit different. But when I send
00:46:32 you a business email and my name is in the signature how the hell do you screw it up.
00:46:36 How do you screw up RJ. Yeah it's an easy one. Not a lot of letters to remember. Do people ever
00:46:43 pronounce your name wrong. Me. Yeah. They do my last name. They love to have fun with it and they
00:46:48 call me like La France. People get my last name wrong a decent amount more than you expect. My
00:46:54 last name. So me my brother my sister me my brother and sister at our high school graduations
00:47:01 our principal pronounced wrong three different times in three different ways. It was all different.
00:47:07 And my high school chorus teacher who I was with her for all four years she wrote one of my college
00:47:14 recommendations spelt my name incorrectly for the first two years I knew her. She added an E. It was
00:47:20 just S I M E O N E. It's like when people spell Dennis Schroeder wrong and add me in there. But
00:47:25 anyways last and definitely not least which Celtic seven footer would Taylor Swift most like
00:47:30 with Kristoff's Luke Cornett or Namia Shkeda. Luke probably Luke Cornett. Luke probably likes
00:47:36 country music. He's from Texas like he's probably funny. He's a good time. Now is he the biggest
00:47:43 star of the bunch which is also something she may value with Travis Kelsey there. No no.
00:47:49 Kristoff's the tallest but as we've discussed he's he's going to die. So for my mom who has a nursing
00:47:57 degree. So definitely not him. And then RJ last bullet said OK I lied because he said last for
00:48:04 as much as Sam loves Spider-Man has he ever thought of dressing up as J Jonah Jameson for Halloween.
00:48:09 OK now so you know who this is. I don't know who this is. You don't know who J Jonah Jameson is.
00:48:13 And I see. Hold on. We are going to have I'm going to look it up. I'm going to Google. You
00:48:17 can look it up. I will find a clip. I know. Yes I know. I know. I've seen the OK. So to answer RJ
00:48:27 his question. Yes I actually thought of it this year because we were kind of talking about costumes
00:48:31 for this and I was thinking about it maybe he rules. This is the greatest character from any
00:48:37 superhero movie. J.K. Simmons is excellent. If you've ever seen Whiplash he's in that too and
00:48:43 he plays a different role but it's the same actor. He likes is the same. I don't know who he is. I
00:48:48 just know I just don't mean so J Jonah Jameson is the editor of the newspaper that Peter Parker
00:48:53 takes pictures for. He takes pictures of Spider-Man J.J. Jameson has pictures of Spider-Man
00:48:59 papers. The Daily Bugle. OK. I didn't know that. I remembered but I couldn't remember the name.
00:49:03 And J. Jonah Jameson is the best character in all of these three movies. If you have time going.
00:49:10 Yeah. You serious pay for what standing there. Yeah. Great. And they just laughs at him.
00:49:16 Fantastic character. I can't say enough good things about J.K. Simmons in that he's awesome.
00:49:22 He's fantastic. Go watch the movies. Go watch compilations on YouTube.
00:49:27 He's so good at this character that they brought him back for the new movies
00:49:31 with a different Spider-Man. He's the only person that will play this character in a movie.
00:49:36 Oh they brought him back to play the same character in a different universe.
00:49:40 See on your screen the bald one. Same guy. Same character. Different universe.
00:49:46 Wow. Wow. Does this made him look different. I guess it's older. So he's just older.
00:49:53 That's awesome. That is he's the goat. People just loved him that much.
00:49:58 Yeah. He's he's the star. Every scene he's in. That's great. That is great. All right. Let's
00:50:05 get back to the email. We have a few more here. Moving when evening guys. This is from RJ again.
00:50:10 If I say if I don't tell you who it's from it's from RJ. Even guys. Well that was a fun night in
00:50:15 Charlotte. Even when the ball wasn't falling. So they showed again why they move the ball
00:50:19 up out move the ball up out briskly then pass and cut towards the rim to get good shots starters
00:50:24 reserves deep bench. The result was winning basketball a couple of solid evens even when
00:50:28 they took rush threes. The Celtics kept increasing their lead. Okay it was the Hornets. But a
00:50:32 championship team is supposed to blow out an inferior opponent. True. That's right. True.
00:50:36 That is the number one point. That is what Joe Mazzullo should say any time anybody like questions
00:50:42 him about quote unquote bad teams. Are you going to be able to do that. You should be able to beat
00:50:46 the piss on any bad team. If you're a championship team this is what I've been asking for for years
00:50:50 and it's not even the actual season yet. Love that Nimi got some run with the top nine guys.
00:50:56 Also that he showed improvement on defense and not committing silly fouls.
00:50:59 If you got beat first don't give up free extra points then keep refining your defense.
00:51:04 It was also nice to see Coach Mazzullo read my note on the par. Stevens got him to off to
00:51:07 three point line. I got him off the three point line I should say. My favorite side of the night
00:51:11 is that Tatum holiday. Pertrane Davis and combined for 27 assists. Everyone is getting on the same
00:51:14 page as well as moving the ball until Sam pokes his head out of the spider first. Be well. Also I
00:51:19 saw holiday Pertrane Davis and no turnovers from those three guys. I don't know about Tatum
00:51:23 but it was a fishing night. Sam's head is out of the spider verse though. For now it's fully in it
00:51:28 for now. Sorry I was mad. I tell you I say that we had to do a video I completely forgot about it
00:51:32 and it snuck up on me. I do want to be here when I was here but when I was like I was like oh no
00:51:37 I do want to play the game. I haven't had any time. It's I want you to play it and maybe tomorrow
00:51:43 you'll have a little bit of time. Who knows. I don't think I got a ball. Are you playing ball?
00:51:47 I practice playing ball if I'm not exhausted because I have a I have a Newton playoff game
00:51:54 tomorrow. Well I've got Celtics practice and then ball so I probably want to talk about the game
00:51:58 but next email again from RJ. Handicapping roster moves morning Jack say hi to Sam for me when Sam
00:52:07 comes back for herself and do spider verse exile. This is great dude. I did happen. Do not disturb.
00:52:11 I literally didn't text anybody back yesterday like it was fantastic. Now that the preseason
00:52:18 games are done we turn to the last bit of preseason fun for armchair GM's guessing who
00:52:21 winds up on the roster. Well we kind of know now but we'll see what RJ predicted. Celtics only need
00:52:26 to cut one contract to get down to 15 players along with resolving J Scrubs contract status
00:52:30 due to his injury. I'll grow group my guesses into three groups on the team Benjamin and update your
00:52:36 resume on the team. Banton, Brissett, Brown, Hauser, Holiday, Horford, Cornette, Mikailou,
00:52:41 Porzingis, Pritchard, Stevens, Tatum, White ding ding ding correct. All correct here.
00:52:45 Biggest surprise call of time between Garnett, Mikailou, Luke because in a world governed by
00:52:50 what have you done for me lately and how high is your ceiling he's being rewarded for steady
00:52:54 consistent play and knowledge of the organization. It's fee mostly because I knew his game as being
00:52:58 shooting first last and always but as athleticism stood out it got him on board. Bench or main.
00:53:05 Davidson, Keita, Scrub, Walsh. Biggest surprise Keita after seeing the additions
00:53:11 excuse me auditions by Cabagay last year in a spooky in Vegas this summer. I was all set to see
00:53:17 another looks good in the highlight reel guy who couldn't advance the game. Keita has shows his
00:53:21 improvement necessary to not only keep him in the organization but very likely get him regular
00:53:26 minutes on nights where Allard can't be resting. Walsh isn't a surprise for this list because he's
00:53:30 still maturing physically which is what 19 year olds should be doing. UYR what does that stand for
00:53:36 again? Update your resume. Yes, Gabriel is steward correct two for two for RJ. Biggest surprise winning
00:53:43 Gabriel's experience productivity last year with the Lakers. Maybe thinking he was likely candidate
00:53:47 just what time with Luke but not only is Keita past him he hasn't seen to progress past the deep
00:53:51 end of the bench falling behind Stevens in the role of small base. The odd man out comes down
00:53:55 to Gabriel, Scrubber, Steward. The easy cut is to cut scrub because of his injury in slide.
00:53:59 Stewarden, there's two way spot but apart from being too Comey, he hasn't shown remarkable single
00:54:04 aspect to his game nor the show marked improvement during the games. My pick is reward demonstrated
00:54:09 progress even if it means holding a guy through injury keeps grab them as to a let's do or go
00:54:13 sign Gabriel as the 15th man. Let's go Celtics RJ. Well, they did cut Stuart email. Oh, did he?
00:54:21 Yeah, he said the next one is this one? No, no, there's one where he was like update.
00:54:29 Oh, yes, update email. Yeah, he's close though. You got close RJ respect.
00:54:38 Let's move swiftly through these because we got two more and then we'll move on to the rest of the
00:54:42 show. Understudies from RJ morning chance. Morning RJ. We appreciate you. Good morning. As you listen
00:54:47 to this. How are you doing today? RJ? Let's know. Let us know how you're doing in your next email.
00:54:52 RJ. I appreciate you. With the starting six locked in and coach Missoula preaching what looks like
00:54:57 to be consistent brand of Celtics basketball each out of the floor interest irrespective of who is
00:55:01 on the floor. Maybe a better way to look at players 7 through 14 on the roster would be in terms of
00:55:05 understudies. The production keeps going and you have a player to can step into the role of a star
00:55:10 Tatum understudy Sam Hauser. He has the height his scoring ability provides some of the gravity
00:55:14 JT has true and while he can shoot and will shoot the ball doesn't stick in his hands if he's covered
00:55:19 true Brown understudy. O'Shea percent and see McKelly. Do we want defensive JT percent or
00:55:25 offensive JT speed? I think you had JB but still wider holiday Peyton Pritchard is the only
00:55:30 understudy the one understanding understudy whose game has the least resemblance to the leads. He
00:55:35 subs in for but it's familiarity with the rest of the team and the respect they have for him
00:55:39 makes it work. Don't want to bend moves up if the opponent requires a taller guard.
00:55:43 Portford Lamar Stevens what he lacks on the outside shooting Stevens brings in some original
00:55:48 out energy with his drafts to the basket and its ability to finish his defense is muscular and
00:55:52 mobile so it's not a big job up there. Corsing is the cornet. I know that everyone wants the
00:55:57 answer to be I know what the ever wants the answer be but cornet knows the lines and knows the rest
00:56:02 of the cast and that counts for a lot when you want to maintain the performance of the absence
00:56:06 of the lead and yes the me escape the me ish kata is studying furiously to move up in the spot but
00:56:11 I'm certain be well RJ I appreciate the theatrics terms there is speaks to my high school any
00:56:18 thoughts your Sam or should we swiftly through this good good I think Nimi might be the backup
00:56:23 center I don't know yet I think RJ's points good to he's still got a little bit of work to do a
00:56:28 little bit more polish the idea of having understudies that people can play the same role
00:56:32 I think Lamar Stevens is a good one for Al Horford he seems like he has the strength and
00:56:37 versatility to kind of be a plug and play defender if he needs to be I wonder if they'll play O'Shea
00:56:45 in that spot more than Lamar because he's taller that's true he's not as strong but he's athletic
00:56:49 that's a decent uh decent shout too all right one last email thank you RJ for tuning in full
00:56:58 circle for kissin law since looking for information on Reggie kissin law is what brought me to HPTC
00:57:03 in the first place I figured I'd share my write-up of his recent signing cut with the Celtics along
00:57:07 with fellow big James Banks full articles Celtics blog here we'll take a brief look we don't have
00:57:11 to read through the whole thing but kissin law did in fact side with Celtics oh it is a brief
00:57:15 write-up I want to read the whole thing but uh basically preseason started with Celtics
00:57:19 blog trotting out big men for auditions did a signing cut maneuver yesterday with senator
00:57:22 James Banks and returning main Celtic power forward to kissin law uh 6 11 27 year old kissin
00:57:27 law uh signing looks to be a depth edition for main 195 pound frame just doesn't seem built for
00:57:33 NBA minutes but he showed a good defensive timing and a reasonable three point shot Banks who will
00:57:37 turn January skinny Banks will turn 26 in January 6 10 tall weighs 250 pounds feels like another
00:57:44 break glass in case of emergency players uh four year college float between Texas and Georgia Tech
00:57:49 averaging six and a half and five and a half spent one year at good overseas at overseas he averaged
00:57:56 five and five and finished second league in the 1.8 blocks a game next two years we're in the g
00:58:01 league uh six and six one five assists one four blocks uh yeah kissin law was at Celtics practice
00:58:07 the other day actually so that was something to notice maybe he was just getting in some run while
00:58:09 he was signed and not waved but um he was there so that was something I noticed but
00:58:14 I thank you again to RJ you're you're a beast like you're you're a legend for this is a unit
00:58:21 a well-oiled machine he puts in the work I'm getting I'm getting better at reading them too
00:58:25 I'm speeding through them I can talk quick it stumbled a little bit but uh thank you to RJ and
00:58:30 RJ let us know how you're doing I want I want an RJ email my Celtics email from you we appreciate
00:58:34 you um but it's not the birthday it was for the twins yeah yeah tell us I also completely forgot
00:58:39 to check the time stamp on that so I'm gonna have to go back and try to find when we started the
00:58:43 emails which should be easy though because I can look when the emails popped up on the screen
00:58:47 so it's true yeah I can figure out maybe the best thing for you to forget the time stamp exactly
00:58:51 exactly all right but moving into the NBA portion of the show uh we'll start with a couple housekeeping
00:58:57 a couple housekeeping items that was tough uh nuggets no I'm not cutting that
00:59:04 I will I will leave my my stumbles in imperfections remain try my best the nuggets have extended big
00:59:11 man Zeke Najee to a four-year 32 million dollar deal I was listening to Zach Lowe talk about this
00:59:16 with Bobby Marks when they were talking about potential extensions Zach Lowe said Zeke Najee
00:59:22 should ask for four years 40 million so he's clearly high on Zeke Najee probably gonna play a
00:59:26 lot of minutes in Denver this year as the backup five um weird spot fine it is weird you think
00:59:31 he'll play he's a solid enough defender he can shoot the three a little bit um but you think he
00:59:36 gets some more minutes this year because DeAndre Ayton's probably been taking another step backwards
00:59:40 in terms of playing time uh he played 14 minutes for them last year average five and two um you
00:59:45 mean like DeAndre Jordan what did I say DeAndre Ayton yeah I meant DeAndre I was so confused I was
00:59:53 so confused that it took me like 30 seconds to figure out who you were trying to talk about
00:59:57 sorry DeAndre Jordan wait wait what yeah Zeke Najee should play any thoughts on the Sam I assume
01:00:03 you're not I think uh now she's an interesting character for the nuggets because he's someone
01:00:08 that of course with this extension is no longer in the last year of his deal but he is in the last
01:00:14 of the rookie salary if you will so he's somebody that the nuggets have been at least urged to look
01:00:23 to trade to include in trades this summer uh every time bleach report put up an article it was his
01:00:28 name that was in there for the most part so it's interesting to see what they're going to do with
01:00:32 him this year and how much they actually want to use him because if he does get real minutes
01:00:36 it's not crazy to see them keeping him but if he doesn't he has the contract now to where a trade
01:00:42 could at least get them something valuable in return or serviceable in return to get real minutes
01:00:50 yeah now he'll make a little bit more money although he will have the poison pill thing
01:00:53 so they probably can't trade him this year trade kicker if he gets straight no it's just
01:00:57 it's the poison pill so if they since they signed him to a rookie extension he's making a little bit
01:01:01 of money this year they can't trade him using this salary they have to trade him using next
01:01:05 year salary like some average or something weird it's like the uh I forget where the
01:01:10 learn something new every day rule came from but there's a poison pill in there um so there's that
01:01:15 another housekeeper I really can't say that word all right another and you did a lot of reading
01:01:21 another housekeeping item um the trailblazers have picked up ish wainwright who was released by the
01:01:27 suns and they have waived kevin knox this didn't like have to be its own thing i just thought it
01:01:32 was interesting because ish wainwright i think solid player former college football player okay
01:01:38 they're talking a lot about football with him yeah he's huge he's just a big did a good game
01:01:45 against the celtics at the garden yeah yeah he's big i did he play i don't think he played in the
01:01:50 nfl i swear he didn't play in the nfl i think he just played bills maybe they drafted him and he
01:01:55 never made it oh yeah after finishing his career bailer wainwright joined the buffalo bills as an
01:02:02 undrafted free agent but did not make the final roster so there was a guy we're both right we're
01:02:06 both right um yeah then he went to play basketball overseas yeah how old is this wainwright sam 28
01:02:13 29 he's i was close he's old for a guy who thinks uh you know you think he'd be a younger player
01:02:21 i like to pick up for the trailblazers he's a nice like big body to throw out there off the bench like
01:02:27 he's dudist it might be the most jack guy in the nfl he's huge he's gigantic i think he would have
01:02:31 been an interesting pickup for the celtics actually he has a little bit of a shooting ability and he's
01:02:36 obviously strong enough to hold his own on defense he's not the greatest shooter ever but he had a
01:02:40 good game against celtic so he fits the bill to uh get brought in surprise surprise the suns let him
01:02:44 go that too weird they pick somebody up i think though i i think uh suns wave i think they signed
01:02:52 somebody so they let him go who'd they sign maybe not i i think they just yeah no they just waved
01:02:58 him i'm an idiot ignore me uh anyways dumb idiot yeah that's me but speaking of waivers uh today
01:03:05 was the last day for teams to wave players without having to pay the x amount of money per day to
01:03:11 keep them on the roster so guys who did not get waved right now seem like okay they might stick
01:03:16 around we don't have to go over all these like in depth these are guys who did not get waived per
01:03:20 keith smith nba uh he said the following players on exhibit 9 10 deals do not appear to have been
01:03:24 waived today ryan archer diakono uh new york knicks charles bettyaco spurs he played pretty
01:03:29 well for them in summer league and i can't remember if he was in g league or in college
01:03:33 last year but he's a big body uh harry giles the third in brooklyn shout out tatum's friend
01:03:38 lamar stevens in boston wsa w for you big w for jack huge for jack edmund summoner in charlotte
01:03:45 stanley and mude and detroit and nate williams jr in houston uh so those are the guys jack who
01:03:50 is addicted to gambling even if it's not with money gambled hours and hours of work on a guy
01:03:56 making the roster let's see what happens um and then the last for him man i like it in on lamar
01:04:04 last thing before we wrap up every year sam and i do predictions we do standings and nba awards
01:04:09 we're gonna start with the awards today we need to start reviewing these mark it is october 22nd
01:04:14 podcast someone remind us so yeah there's rj remind us yeah rj can you can you this is such a
01:04:23 huge rj remind us a year from now to react to this uh no maybe just in april yeah remind us in a yeah
01:04:31 fine ask remind us months from now to react to this um i'm gonna title this in the google docs
01:04:38 uh nba award predictions okay good call dictions 2023 24 so i can search it and maybe we'll find
01:04:48 it it'll pop up we gotta be the dumbest of the dumb we're so stupid that needs to be part of the
01:04:57 i'm not editing that hell no don't edit it because that's gonna take a lot of time but
01:05:05 that is just an all-time like encapsulation of the show we're gonna be the dumbest
01:05:10 uh all right but we're gonna do nba war predictions now um and then we'll get to the
01:05:16 rels and then that'll be it and then i can go to sleep yeah uh all right you want to start with the
01:05:22 mvp or do you want to go least important award to the most important yeah let's do that one okay
01:05:28 so let's start with clutch player of the year because no one cares um sam and i sam who is
01:05:34 lagging now sometimes i'll cut it when sam lags from the show but instead i'm just gonna talk to
01:05:38 you guys until sam comes back how are you guys doing today sam's gonna have no idea this is in
01:05:41 the show and maybe i'll show him uh but sam's not here i hope you're all having a great day
01:05:47 this is mainly because i don't want to have to edit out sam's lag from the show and put it in
01:05:52 and have that extra time so i'm just filibustering but we appreciate you welcome back sam sorry um
01:05:59 it's fine thing to read so shocker clutch player of the year um i it's i don't know how to predict
01:06:07 this because it's new last year who do you have as your clutch player of the year sam
01:06:11 mine is blank i thought we were going to skip it but i will give you some ideas off the top of my
01:06:16 head i think luca is a good a good we got the dumbest motherfuckers okay lucas sure i think
01:06:27 lucas is a good pick uh a little bit biased as a celtics fan but i've seen him hit more game winners
01:06:32 against celtics than probably 99 of nba players i've ever seen play uh i also think that i i want
01:06:40 to think teams that are probably going to be having to battle it out in a lot of close games that's
01:06:45 why i thought so i have four players under here who were in the running last year that i think are
01:06:51 automatically going to be in one last year darren fox i think one last year okay and so i have fox
01:06:58 jimmy luca demar de rosen i think those four were in the running last year they'll probably be in
01:07:02 the running this year but for my top three i picked three guys who i thought were unique because i was
01:07:06 like you know let's have some fun donovan mitchell is who i had to win i think donovan mitchell have
01:07:11 a good chance he seems like they'll be there i think trey young could have a chance because i
01:07:15 think the hawks could be i have one for you when you're done and then my really weird one cam
01:07:21 johnson i think the nets are going to be in a lot of close games i think he's probably the best cam
01:07:27 thomas johnson okay i think they're going to be in a lot of close games i think he mckell bridges
01:07:32 and the best three-point shooter and i think cam johnson takes a major leap forward this year
01:07:37 he's not one of my most improved player candidates spoiler alert but i think he'll take a leap i
01:07:41 think he'll be hitting a lot of clutch shots that's that's my way out of left field if i'm writing it
01:07:45 look like a genius if not i'll just be an idiot cam johnson's the name i'll put out there who do
01:07:49 you got i think dame is a good good candidate for that is a good one yeah dame maybe yeah he's
01:07:56 gonna have a lot more attention on this year uh he might get to have some moments with the box he
01:08:01 might not have to because they're going to be a good team and maybe shea gilgore's alexander too
01:08:06 if i could speak english uh he's somebody that's probably going to be in a lot of close games than
01:08:11 okc team that has somewhat of uh expectations on them this year with a lot of young talent
01:08:16 yeah i'll back it i'll back it all right coach dear uh also okc dagnell think okay that team
01:08:24 has a lot of potential if they take a leap people are going to be like respect to the coach you have
01:08:29 to shout him out so he's a good candidate for that uh other teams i got to might have a shout
01:08:37 too just because the celtics are kind of being reinvented in a way he's got a whole age to deal
01:08:43 with uh who's not the general manager uh terry stott's got really mad we didn't put that in our
01:08:51 in our show notes but terry stopped we talked about that talked about it somewhere did you see
01:08:55 the new stuff came out though no i forget where i saw it i'm hoping i didn't get baited and this
01:09:00 isn't a fake thing um let me let me look quick just so i don't say while you're looking yeah i
01:09:06 was on reddit today and i saw the bucks posted a leak they're separate it posted a leak of their
01:09:12 city jerseys and the top reply was this is why terry stott's left he saw this dipped
01:09:20 uh yeah it's funny i don't know if it's true i can't find what i saw but i saw something along
01:09:25 the lines of like they were in a heated confrontation it sounds fake now that i say
01:09:29 it back but it's funny so i'm gonna say it anyways um and it was like you know i'm not
01:09:34 taking advice from a guy who never made it past the eastern conference finals and terry stott
01:09:37 imagine if terry stott's yelled back yeah i was fucking ns canter as my center
01:09:41 so i don't think it's true that would be fire if you just yelled that back it's like that time where
01:09:47 uh what was it cp3 reportedly called hard and fat and skipped it was said it on tv
01:09:54 yeah yeah um my guy i have i think jamal mosley could have a chance i think the magic are gonna
01:10:02 be real good this year magic was gonna be the team i was gonna say but i didn't know who the coach was
01:10:06 so i didn't want to say it jamal mosley reason i know partially because i tweeted about him once
01:10:11 and luke adondrich followed me on twitter a long time ago because he was an assistant in dallas
01:10:17 other one rick carlisle i'm in on the pacers and magic i think both those guys could have a chance
01:10:20 yep those are good shouts good teams that are kind of set to take a leap so the coaches will
01:10:25 get credit there great picks okay six man of the year who do you got so i already told you this
01:10:35 but my answer on my sheet that i typed out was verbatim i'd say whoever it winds up being in
01:10:42 boston but who knows if they actually have anybody take on the role full-time and then without a
01:10:48 period it says malik monk so malik monk is my actual pick i think he had a solid showing in
01:10:54 the playoffs for the kings if he's able to carry over that magic into the regular season he could
01:10:58 get some real recognition out there especially because i think people are actually going to pay
01:11:02 attention to the kings now so that's that's a little thing to keep your eyes peeled for
01:11:07 other guys off the top of my head i don't have a whole lot for you i got three uh my winner i
01:11:13 picked bobby portis okay he's a good shot to take it home it's kind of overdue he was third in
01:11:19 voting last year i think he could get a bump this year another guy was second in voting emmanuel
01:11:22 quickly i think could have another bump i mean he's gonna be six men there anyways off the rails
01:11:27 guy picked seth curry in dallas i think he'll probably score a lot get some threes i think
01:11:31 that's another guy could get some consideration if they're good enough so seth curry's dallas
01:11:34 is a big window team where they could be pretty good or they could suck in it they could be third
01:11:39 or twelfth yeah you don't know what's a lot of teams in the west could be in fairness to them
01:11:43 yep okay rookie of the year i assume you put one b i also put maybe chat another guy i have just
01:11:51 before we talk about when b keonte george in utah i think you get some chances a lot of good things
01:11:54 being said about him he's good he's another guy i picked him up in fantasy eyes emoji i think
01:11:59 it'll be good when he's just so [ __ ] good like sam and i both tuned in briefly or i tuned i think
01:12:05 sam saw some highlights and we checked it out the spurs warriors game he is i know it's been
01:12:12 talked about to death but watching it for the first time like fully like paying attention
01:12:17 oh my god he's crazy he could make the all-star game this year he's nasty i wouldn't be shocked
01:12:25 if he makes the all-star game this year to be honest with you with all the fan voting and that's
01:12:30 what i was gonna say all that stuff people are gonna be impressed with his highlights he's gonna
01:12:34 be a social media favorite the stuff you're seeing him do in the preseason is unlike things we've
01:12:40 seen anybody else do uh you saw him take the picture with chris paul where chris paul stood
01:12:45 on his tippy toes who was the one that revealed that little secret from chris paul who was the
01:12:50 reporter whoever that may be i don't know is not going to get any quotes from chris paul for the
01:12:54 remainder of the season like if i'm chris paul that's like excommunication right there not
01:13:00 talking to you ever again that is fire it's fire sam who was the last rookie to make the all-star
01:13:06 game uh yeah who's the last rookie okay before that i'll see how far back you can go i don't
01:13:11 know dude is it yeah is it that is that okay yeah i'm being tim duncan grant hill and shack
01:13:17 you didn't expect me to know blake griffin uh i was just curious i i was gonna say who are
01:13:24 all of the rookies to make it but there's a lot more than i thought so we're not there's 45
01:13:27 so i'm not going 1946 tell you what all rookies it's true this is true um okay but yeah wendy's
01:13:36 nuts most improved player sam who you got i have two guys i have uh alper and shangun
01:13:44 from the rockets feels like good pick rockets are kind of a team that could make a little bit of a
01:13:49 jump he has little like shades of yokich in his game people are loving yokich right now there's
01:13:54 all kinds of little narratives that could lead him to getting a lot of attention for that and
01:13:59 also anthony edwards now anthony edwards a tougher pick because he's already good but a lot of people
01:14:05 are gassing up anthony edwards after this team usa run he turned out to be the guy for that team
01:14:09 uh there's a lot of talk about minnesota then maybe moving on from cat or seeing what they can
01:14:14 do with cat and go bear and if that team is actually able to make any kind of leap he's
01:14:18 gonna get a lot of credit for that too so you might see a new anthony edwards in minnesota this
01:14:22 year so i think he might get some attention for the most improved player and it's a good pick
01:14:27 it's a good pick i have three my so is your pick enter alper and just solidify who do you pick
01:14:32 have you done this in any of your hey i have three guys picks been like i think this is the guy that's
01:14:38 gonna win yes i don't think you have i have i've done it in every single one i said donald mitchell
01:14:42 jamal mosley bobby portis and women you just don't listen to me i i think uh i think it's actually
01:14:48 gonna be anthony edwards i just think he has too much attention on him yeah just don't listen to
01:14:53 me i've literally every time i said this is who i get with uh who i have is my winner sometimes i
01:14:58 just didn't think like i didn't put it together like you were going not this time uh ob top and
01:15:03 it's who i have winning i think he's gonna shout i think he's gonna get a lot of new looks he's
01:15:08 looked great in the preseason so far um tyrese maxie is another one especially if hardens out i
01:15:13 think he'll have a good chance now i'm gonna tell you who is going to win austin reeves is gonna win
01:15:19 most improved player oh they love him am i wrong right it's too easy it's too easy he's yeah so
01:15:27 i think that's who's gonna win but ob top and is my pick uh for it all right i would like to be none
01:15:33 of the guys we mentioned because that means something really fun happened exactly i agree
01:15:37 i hope it's none of them i hope uh i hope kelly olenek wins most improved player uh who is he
01:15:42 after he gets traded to celtics midseason yeah yeah daniel tice most improved player campaign
01:15:46 down he's so sick daniel tice averages like 2010 two blocks all-star ties okay uh defensive player
01:15:55 of the year tice no uh who is your pick i picked janice i think janice is due for another one he
01:16:00 hasn't won it in what two three years now uh he's still that guy he's long he's an impactful player
01:16:06 on a good defensive team even though they were mid last year i think defensively if i'm not
01:16:10 mistaken but he is still an impactful defensive player he's quick he can defend the perimeter
01:16:15 he's strong he can defend the paint and he's able to athletically block shots and deflect passes all
01:16:21 of it he can do it all uh so he's my pick i think he's due for another one i back it i picked uh
01:16:27 what did you have any excuse me anybody else that's my only one i i think this is a harder one
01:16:32 i think wendy might be a sleeper pick but i don't know if he's strong enough
01:16:35 uh i'm gonna go with evan mobley they were the best defensive team in the league last year i
01:16:39 think he'll take another step especially defensively and if they're top five again i think
01:16:43 he'll get a lot of votes other guys i mentioned nick klaxon i think the nets have all those pieces
01:16:47 to be good on defense i think he's good ben simmons ben simmons uh anthony davis if the
01:16:52 lakers are good defensive team and he plays enough he's just he was nasty in the playoffs
01:16:55 and then i said d white drew holliday kp though like if the celtics are as good defensively as
01:17:01 they are i think one of them could seriously get some love how does he get that national
01:17:05 media attention with the celtics poor zingas is d white dude if if they are that good on defense
01:17:11 like i think there's a case all right mvp sam who'd you got for your mvp all right so i have two
01:17:18 guys i can't pick one i have yannis and tatum here's why i think those are the best two teams
01:17:25 in the league i think they are two of the most exciting players in the league i think tatum is
01:17:32 due for one but he has to put together a real season and again yannis didn't win one since when
01:17:38 2020 2019 it's been a while for yannis i think he's due another one okay i have tatum and devin
01:17:46 booker as my two secondary ones booker but i have yokich i think what's gonna happen is love
01:17:54 yokich again i think everyone realizes our bad we were too juiced up on you know joel and b needs
01:18:00 his yokich has been the best player in the nba for the past four seasons he just has been object
01:18:06 like he just has been he's put up the best stats by far basketball reference is crazy it really is
01:18:11 he's he's he's a [ __ ] my career player he's not he's not in the nba okay quick yeah quick quick
01:18:20 quick sorry not to like derail you you can pick one 2k player to give like 99 potential to
01:18:26 has to be tice yeah yeah you need it no but nicole yokich last season 25 points 12 rebounds
01:18:34 tennis is not mvp playoff numbers are even better they're so nuts and it's like it's like 30 13 and
01:18:42 a half and nine and a half on like efficient efficient splits yokich averaged 24 and a
01:18:48 half points in regular season last year on 15 shots you should say why did he shoot from the
01:18:54 field he shot what 60 63.2 percent and he shot he shot some threes too he shot 40.3 right 38.3
01:19:04 percent on 2.2 attempts a game playoffs 30 points i can't even say this out loud he was unbelievable
01:19:12 in the playoffs i'm sorry [ __ ] you'll never see in 20 games 30 points a game 13 and a half rebounds
01:19:20 nine and a half assists a steal in a block 58 4.8 percent to the field 46.1 percent from three
01:19:28 like that genuinely might be a top five playoff run ever it might be no i i i've written about
01:19:36 the nuggets a zillion times in the last two months because i'm on that fan-sided page
01:19:40 and i do a ton of yokich like box or box score inserts or whatever and man every time i go look
01:19:47 at basketball reference to talk about the playoff run i'm like that is one of the most insane things
01:19:51 we've ever seen it's just out of this world he's an alien whatever you want to call him
01:19:56 he's unbelievable super efficient and he controls the game at a high high intellectual level crazy
01:20:03 he's the best player on the planet i think going to be again all right let's get in to the ratless
01:20:10 finally it's been a long feel like you're ready for this you you sound ready i'm exhausted i'm
01:20:16 ready to go to sleep uh but wow we have a lot of stuff going on the screen right now oopsies
01:20:20 matt oiko bring that one back bring it back bring it back matt the rat looks kind of like a dwarf
01:20:26 yeah he is we'll bring out the real matt there's matt for us um all right what do i have oh do you
01:20:35 want to hold rat court first should we start with yes this is a week a week in the works
01:20:40 rat court in session so i am looking to move out currently i'm looking at apartments and i am going
01:20:47 to potentially live with my friend mallory who i have known since high school i've known her for
01:20:51 10 years uh we're friends we went to high school together we did show choir together we went to the
01:20:55 same college uh she was a nursing major as well like so i've been good friends with her for a
01:20:59 long time she's also looking to move in the city so we're like oh maybe we'll look together nothing
01:21:02 like this isn't a definite i'm definitely going to do it but we're like looking at apartments
01:21:05 seeing if there's anything if it works out i tell sam this and sam goes it's fucking weird dude i'm
01:21:10 like it is why it's not weird it's just not it's not weird this is the rat court and so we're not
01:21:17 going to be able to decide this so we need the chat to tell us yeah i mean sam's just never seen
01:21:21 new girl it's a normal i've seen new girl that's a joke that's a joke but i mean even even new girl
01:21:27 there's like three there's like a bunch of people in the apartment it's not just two people in the
01:21:31 apartment there's four of them this is it is not weird we are good friends it's it's just it's
01:21:38 like it's just normal it's not weird do you know people in real life that do my dad that new girl
01:21:46 my dad lived with okay yeah when you move to the city respect yeah
01:21:50 rat court let us know in the comments yeah who is who is right about this me i think it's strange
01:21:58 have you told caitlin about this i wonder what you would say oh i haven't i actually have not
01:22:04 i'm curious you have to let me know what she says i'll have to ask her i'll text her in a minute
01:22:08 okay uh go ahead sam so you can't complain about spider-man not being here anymore
01:22:15 i can't i can't your pain complaint i can't complain about it being here so like i said earlier
01:22:20 i now feel like i have no will to live i finished the story in this game and
01:22:26 it is a crushing feeling when you've been waiting five years for something and it's
01:22:34 kind of gone it's like it's like the uh the puppy who eats his food too fast like oh exactly
01:22:41 spider-man came out and it comes out on thursday night so timeline timeline time jack and i have
01:22:56 done four hours of content on thursday i'm very tired i go and i take a nap after we wrap up our
01:23:02 friday morning video that we did after the playback stream with tyler rucker which you took
01:23:06 work off to play this game i took work off for three days so i prepared two days just preparing
01:23:12 myself and i took the friday off to make sure i had all day to play and could not be bothered now
01:23:17 i go take a nap after the show 11 55 alarm comes i get up spring out of bed go pee sit down on my
01:23:26 playstation watch the final minute tick off the thing and i hit play i play for two and a half
01:23:32 hours i thoroughly enjoy myself was there a timer in the game with the minutes or did you just watch
01:23:39 a clock say like no so when you're on your playstation and the game is not officially
01:23:43 released yet there is a since i downloaded it last friday there was a countdown to when you
01:23:48 but this is for every game it's not just a spider-man thing like if i bought like 2k it
01:23:53 would do the same thing i can just picture you having that up at all hours today like
01:23:57 i should have i should have had it as my background but so i play for two and a half
01:24:03 hours i finally decide i wasn't really that tired but i was like i'm gonna go to bed because i don't
01:24:08 want to get up at like 11 you wanted to maximize the time you would have playing the next day yeah
01:24:13 i wanted to maximize my friday playing time so i i go to bed i wake up at 7 and i'm ready to go
01:24:21 i'm recharged i sit down at my playstation i play for two hours i decide i'm hungry so i go
01:24:28 downstairs and i make myself food i do not go get coffee this is important i go and i make my own
01:24:33 breakfast i eat my sandwich i come back i play for uh sorry so i was getting distracted i'll
01:24:44 explain this as uh another list sure sure sure because i'm i'm getting like a story i'm sorry so
01:24:51 five hours go by i go back downstairs my dad says oh you must be hungry i made myself a wrap and i
01:24:56 went right back upstairs and played so what is it nine to two i have played now seven total hours
01:25:04 since waking up i proceed to play another eight hours straight well i ate dinner at some point oh
01:25:12 yes sure you got it yeah and i recorded with you okay sorry wow i recorded you're dumb ass to get
01:25:20 no i recorded with you but by the time i recorded with jack i have developed a splitting headache
01:25:28 because i've been sitting yeah i have i have my blue light glasses staring at my tv
01:25:34 for the better part of 24 hours like yesterday from midnight to 10 p.m there were
01:25:45 probably five total hours that i was not playing spider-man and i had eight and i did not have
01:25:53 caffeine i have coffee every single day off multiple times that'll do it so i think i was
01:25:57 having withdrawals but i'll tell you what what a day what a day it was maybe the best day i've had
01:26:03 in a long time just don't have to do anything put your life on do not disturb better than stranger
01:26:10 things day so here's why stranger things was a better time okay because that lasted like a month
01:26:19 month and a half this was just the day end to end stuff but now for listeners back during
01:26:28 covet same just watch stranger things for like a month no it wasn't covet it was it was after the
01:26:34 celtics went to the finals and we had that little cool down period where there wasn't a lot going
01:26:39 on okay yeah it was just i was going to work at 4 a.m get out one go run go to the gym after work
01:26:45 probably get done around like five right before bed episode of stranger things best best we weren't
01:26:52 even like maybe ever we weren't even recording regularly then so we weren't grinding no not
01:26:58 like this not like this we did a decent amount i wonder how many we were still in there but we
01:27:03 weren't we didn't turn it up yet no not yet we do daily videos now we're all right but uh i'm not
01:27:09 gonna like talk about the game just in case anybody listening wants to enjoy it i'm not gonna say
01:27:13 anything that happens if people want that comment like maybe i'll talk about it next week or
01:27:17 something great great out of 100 though out of 100 uh probably 92 now i i didn't like that like
01:27:27 there's certain like missions you can't change your suit i talked about i like the suits it
01:27:32 doesn't let you change okay 92 good though good well what was the first what was the first game
01:27:38 for context so this is probably a more well done game but the first game might be the best
01:27:46 first experience i've ever had with the game same thing played all day so out of 100 brought me to
01:27:51 tears brought me to tears probably 90 genuinely genuinely yeah the end of the first game sad
01:27:55 get ready oh fuck me i don't want to play i will play um all right rat list rain ass that's what i
01:28:02 have written on the sheet that's that's my take counter rat list rain good love rain went running
01:28:07 in the rain today you can only get so wet more dramatic run feels like you're in a very let me
01:28:11 high energy situation go ahead let me contextualize my rain ass rat list here rain his ass because
01:28:20 the green line decided that there was a problem and so they had to shut down service today and
01:28:27 for context the closest station to johnny cupcakes is the green line and so instead of having a two
01:28:34 minute walk to the store i had a 15 minute walk to the store which is fine except it was raining
01:28:40 and so i was just in the rain yeah it's a co-rat list rain for being ass also rain sucks to drive
01:28:47 it but just terrible that that was bad especially when people see rain and they just like i don't
01:28:52 know how to drive exactly especially when the i'm sorry i understand your car broke down can it not
01:28:59 break down in the left lane fuck off and consider it to break down the left lane i respect what i'm
01:29:05 saying what i'm saying so like that especially because it was raining and i had to merge back
01:29:11 into the middle lane and people it was like a bottleneck it was he and it wasn't just like
01:29:15 randomly on the highway it was perfectly at a bottleneck where people are coming in he
01:29:18 fuck that mad at the rain because i couldn't see mad at the green line for making me walk in the
01:29:24 rain green line was back up by timberland homes that's fine but mad at the person who broke down
01:29:29 transit today just overall rat list it was annoying not a fan okay so this is a brief rat list
01:29:36 but i think it is going to be a hard hitter so i what stalled me out of my spider-man story
01:29:43 uh my girlfriend just texted me and she is at a pumpkin carving get together sure
01:29:52 uh this has nothing to do with pumpkins so apparently one of her friends was telling a story
01:29:58 she was in are you familiar with bahas jack have we been there is that the place you took me
01:30:04 to her dinner when i came down to ball okay then no i don't know two of the four letters are correct
01:30:10 it was close but it's like it's essentially like a chipotle they have one on uh two on thayer
01:30:16 street in providence so it's like a little like walk-in thing sure uh they have a bathroom in
01:30:21 the back so apparently caylen's friend went to go to the bathroom and she opened the door
01:30:25 and there was just a guy masturbating in the sink
01:30:27 so ratless him for not locking the door
01:30:35 and i asked so jack i just received that story and would you like to
01:30:49 know or would you like to guess what my response was uh uh what my first question i asked was
01:30:55 i do but i don't want to say it so i'll let you say i i don't think it my question was
01:31:06 what you think it was what was you uh uh was he watching anything good
01:31:11 yes did you let him finish oh no no he did as soon as he opened the door ah
01:31:18 that was what did it no not really i don't know that's a good question should i inquire
01:31:26 oh i'm crying that was just so i left field i was not expecting it
01:31:36 excuse me holy shit we'll have an update for that perhaps by the end of the show
01:31:44 please uh speaking of bathrooms ratless starbucks i go into p and i get into the city i have a tiny
01:31:51 bladder i get into the city and uh you know i take the red line in i switch to orange line i'm
01:31:58 waiting i'm waiting it's like maybe like an hour and a half since last time i peed real
01:32:02 like you know i'm gonna be standing around for a while i have to pee a little bit now i'm gonna
01:32:05 have to pee there's a line for the bathroom in starbucks like how the fuck is there a line for
01:32:11 the bathroom in starbucks uh and so i didn't go i went i stood around the juice event no chairs i
01:32:18 was my feet were exhausting and i didn't ask to use the bathroom there which in hindsight i probably
01:32:22 should have but i didn't so i didn't use the bathroom like all day and again tiny bladder and
01:32:26 i'm just dying i go back to use the bathroom at starbucks afterwards you need to buy something
01:32:30 because you need to go and then there was a line at the starbucks to get something i'm like fuck
01:32:33 i'm just gonna go home it's like starbucks and i was mad yeah ratless the star daddy
01:32:39 uh so update uh she did not stick around to find out good that's probably the smart move
01:32:45 yeah that's i love how you rat listed him for not locking the door
01:32:48 yeah you should just lock the door that is crazy all right
01:32:54 i said that to kaylee she goes that's the scumbag move
01:32:58 what is what is not yeah not logging the door
01:33:05 yeah yeah um all right do you have another one or should i go again i'm out i'm out i don't have
01:33:10 anything else uh ratlist random people on the train i don't know any of the context behind
01:33:16 this because i had my headphones in but i look up and i just see this lady just punch a dude
01:33:22 he just gets she just walks over i don't know if it was like a full punch but she's kind of
01:33:28 like goes like this just goes bang and like bops him and him and all his friends are like what the
01:33:32 hell and she's just staring at him it's like deadlocked they're staring at each other i'm like
01:33:35 fuck what's happening and i don't want to make contact because i wasn't sure how like mentally
01:33:40 like like who was what mentally where mentally in the situation so i was like trying not to look
01:33:46 too much but i they had beef of some sort apparently and then like 10 minutes later on
01:33:53 the train i don't know what they were talking about but she just picks up her stuff plops it
01:33:58 in front of them and just stands there like they're all sitting down she's just staying there like
01:34:02 looking like she's on the phone the whole time just stands there i was like what the fuck is
01:34:06 happening right now and she's just what bro i i didn't even see the punch fully i just this is
01:34:11 what i saw i saw arm out face clocked and then like him going what the hell it's like what the
01:34:18 fuck is happening it's not even there i think i've seen on the red line so so in in my high school
01:34:24 they did not have homeroom they had what they call advisory advisory was we had advisory in the middle
01:34:28 of the day yeah we had that third or fourth we had it too for like 15 minutes yeah exactly right
01:34:34 so one day i'm sitting in my advisory and this girl in my grade storms in and just punches this
01:34:41 kid in the face three times and starts screaming at him because he called her something and uh
01:34:46 it was just you could not believe that just happened and he just ate it dude it was like
01:34:53 the most incredible thing he was like unfazed he just stood there didn't flinch didn't like
01:34:57 move a muscle just ate all three shots and she threw like they were hard punches so that was one
01:35:03 of the more uh interesting things that i ever uh experienced in high school like ever just
01:35:09 i didn't do a whole lot uh also uh oh my god i lost the second half of what i was going to talk
01:35:16 about oh well i got me uh yes when so a lot of new listeners to this show i've done this story before
01:35:22 but i went to the club like back in february and this reminds me of when the oh sam's freezing
01:35:31 again jack doesn't want to edit so jack is going to talk and no okay you cut out for a sec go ahead
01:35:37 continue what it was last thing you heard i went to the club in february continue also by the way
01:35:43 when you've been lagging these times i don't want to edit so when you lag i just start talking i'm
01:35:48 like all right guys i don't want to edit this out so we're going to have a chat we'll say it's
01:35:52 gone and he's not going to know what's so i need you to know i know episode and now you know but i
01:35:57 just i had to tell you because i was half talking anyway i wish i could control it like i i feel
01:36:02 bad i have nothing continue continue it's it's now fun between me and the chat so i thought i was
01:36:07 gonna have to fight this girl was gonna fight me sure because the place is packed and like
01:36:13 i just like to my friends like we have like a little area to dance box out make sure nobody
01:36:19 pushes us in we don't want to give up this space and i'm in a fucking box out battle with this
01:36:25 yeah built like a brick house and then she like tries to pull the chair on me and i didn't fall
01:36:29 and then she got real mad that i didn't fall so she just started screaming at me and i was like
01:36:33 listen you were like pushing me i don't know what you wanted me all i was doing was holding my legs
01:36:38 and holding my crap that's how it plays you gotta do at the club your uh your advisor story spawned
01:36:44 three stories in my brain they're shorter so i'm gonna tell okay they're all right my advisory
01:36:49 there's this kid named clark who is a legend he's very cool guy but he sometimes got in trouble with
01:36:55 like the principals and teachers or whatever so it's fine but he was in my advisory and our advisor
01:36:59 was the assistant principal so just randomly throughout the year we would be left alone
01:37:05 because she'd walk in the room and she'd just go hey clark and he'd go i'm coming he just
01:37:10 i wonder if clark listens he doesn't probably listen to this but i had people come up my uh
01:37:17 well i people come up if i reviewed my five-year reunion say i love the pod so i wonder how many
01:37:21 people like hear this but if you know you went to your reunion i remember you telling me this i
01:37:25 still can't believe you went yeah i only went because it was like i went with a bunch of my
01:37:29 friends who i'm still close with and we were like it was more of uh we're curious rather than like
01:37:33 we want you know i'm saying it was curious yeah but if you know me from high school hello um
01:37:39 clark who my so my mom is dating they've been together for like 12 13 years so like they're
01:37:47 effectively married but they're not married they're dating uh i call him coach bergstow
01:37:52 because he was my baseball coach when i was like 12 right oh yes you told me about this before not
01:37:56 maybe not on the pod but i do remember this this is the story with clark not or that part so
01:38:03 he is coaching at this point my i think i was like freshman or sophomore year of high school i
01:38:09 was in like rec baseball i was playing and he's coaching uh so at this point he's been dating my
01:38:13 mom for like three four years whatever and he was like the coach that everyone liked like everyone
01:38:19 like like the coach all the kids were like cool he's like cool guy he still is this isn't saying
01:38:23 he was like he love him obviously he's washed but clark goes up to him he goes yo coach berg i bet
01:38:32 you get all the bitches in front of me and he goes oh i'm actually dating mrs simone and clark
01:38:40 just looks to me and goes oh [ __ ] um and then the other thing i can't remember if this was
01:38:49 a clark story but clark and this guy luke who's also in high school also cool cool dude
01:38:55 we were in the math class and this teacher had a rule where you couldn't eat in class
01:39:02 because it was loud and distracting so people would come in with chips and he would send them
01:39:07 to like the he goes you can go to the nurse's office and finish them if you want and they
01:39:10 would just leave like they're like okay but clark came into class once with leftover soup
01:39:24 and the teacher goes clark there's no eating in the class and without missing a beat clark goes
01:39:30 what is my soup too loud for you just look at and did you sam lag for the punch line of the story
01:39:39 this [ __ ] guy did you lag for the punch line i lagged for the punch line i'm actually so mad
01:39:43 i was like ready you you did a good job setting it up without missing a beat clark goes what is
01:39:50 my soup too loud for you buddy just in front of the class i thought he was gonna say i'm not eating
01:39:57 i'm drinking no best part nothing else he just ate his soup in class teacher said nothing else
01:40:02 he just ate the soup and it was like okay cool uh but the other thing luke uh like [ __ ] around
01:40:08 the class and so this girl who was very shy sneezed once and luke goes bless you and she goes
01:40:14 thank you and he goes i love you she just goes like this and then he did it to me like
01:40:20 a couple days later and i just look back and laugh and he goes this guy
01:40:23 uh oh man it was uh your advisory story spawned all those like funny moments
01:40:30 uh but i thought that was entertaining the soup was uh the soup kills me every time
01:40:34 super still up man soup is too loud all right this might be the longest podcast we've done in
01:40:40 a minute uh and i we were scrounging together content before it too but um yeah are we are
01:40:48 we done there do we got anything else uh i'm i'm out of stuff i don't have a clue all right today
01:40:52 i guess i guess spider-man was kind of a closer i could say yeah at the time that was the only
01:40:57 thing i had [ __ ] closer dude it was a podcast topic for the past week what do you [ __ ] mean
01:41:02 closer uh thank you all for tuning in we appreciate you very much for listening especially this time
01:41:08 okay okay well remind me i'm gonna make it later so text me so i have it and i'll keep it okay
01:41:14 i'll text you before i go to bed because i'm gonna i got a big skyscraper looking at me for
01:41:18 like the last hour and a half just what is thinking about my my game is still on are you gonna play
01:41:24 some more when you get up i'm gonna play some more yeah i got stuff cyclists you can do the
01:41:28 new game plus what's that you replay it with all the abilities unlocked
01:41:33 thank you all for tuning in especially if you listen to the entire hour 40 we just did
01:41:43 of like i mean an hour of it was celtic so we did talk celtics for a long time but
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01:42:25 sam take it out so we can get back to his fucking spot yeah thank you very much for listening or
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