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04:11 Zanim right? So one of the reasons that we were still young, we went to the office and saw Zanim, Lizzie and Tenor Lizza.
04:23 Did you meet them?
04:24 Yes we did.
04:25 Did anyone try?
04:26 Eh? Who tried?
04:28 He's still a kid.
04:28 Okay, I don't know where he knows. He's just asking.
04:31 He's just asking, he's still in school.
04:33 Sorry sorry sorry.
04:34 At that time it was said that this skill was not yet established.
04:38 True. So that was the point of rejection. When I became a singer, they said there was an opportunity to join a TV program.
04:45 Okay.
04:46 So when I was doing a TV program, suddenly there was a film producer, a film director, who saw it.
04:51 Who?
04:51 Irma Fatima at that time.
04:53 Oh.
04:54 So he scouted from there. I think it's only about, well, less than two years to become a singer.
05:00 Okay.
05:00 Because I see you were a singer in 2000.
05:03 Yes.
05:04 You started acting in 2002, if I'm not mistaken.
05:05 Yes, that's right. The film was released in 2002.
05:07 Okay.
05:09 The filming took place in mid-2001.
05:13 So it was released in 2002.
05:15 I really didn't expect it at that time.
05:17 We had just released an album.
05:20 Suddenly I got the opportunity to...
05:22 Become an actor.
05:22 Become an actor.
05:23 But he had his backstory.
05:25 So at that time, we met, I met Irma Fatima.
05:29 She gave me the script, she asked me to wake up, she asked me to walk around.
05:33 So I had to...
05:34 Audition.
05:35 Yes, I had to be a bit of a burden for her.
05:37 We didn't know, we were only 18 years old at that time.
05:40 We just followed her lead.
05:42 Once she asked me, "So, how's it going? Akasha, you're going to be an actress, right?"
05:47 Gosh.
05:48 I panicked at first. "Acting?"
05:51 "Eh, it's okay."
05:52 You're not good.
05:52 No, we didn't want to.
05:53 Back in school, we did want to play in theatre, but we were just acting.
05:58 Then she said, "It's okay, don't worry. I'll send you to the acting class, the acting workshop."
06:05 And at the same time, I was sent to a Japanese language class.
06:10 Oh.
06:11 The class lasted for three months in a row.
06:13 Okay, okay.
06:15 So, Fatima took care of the acting class.
06:21 So, from then on, I called her Aunty Fati.
06:25 Thank you, Aunty Fati, for all your efforts and hardworking.
06:28 I'm Malay, because we didn't know.
06:29 Yeah.
06:30 We didn't know what we had, what basics we had.
06:32 What we knew was, "Well, people call me an actor, so I'll just try."
06:36 Just do it.
06:37 Yeah, just try.
06:39 So, from there, we found out that acting is actually fun.
06:44 We go through a different phase in ourselves.
06:47 We become different people.
06:49 So, it's like a...
06:52 It's like a challenge, the process.
06:55 Maybe if Dina or Valit go through it, you guys can probably enjoy it too.
07:00 Explore it too.
07:01 You can explore it.
07:02 I understand.
07:03 He really likes acting.
07:04 No, I don't.
07:06 I just do it.
07:07 But it looks like he has the ability.
07:09 When we were doing the movie "Tali" during Eid, he was the most serious.
07:13 Of course, we're siblings.
07:15 How can we not be serious?
07:16 They're all so funny.
07:18 Until I got to play Mak Andam.
07:21 So, he gave you Mak Andam.
07:23 He knew I could do more.
07:26 He has a range.
07:27 He has a range.
07:28 I tell you.
07:29 But the names that Akasha mentioned earlier...
07:32 Irma Fatima, Fatima Abubakar...
07:35 They're big names.
07:36 They're legends now.
07:38 Akasha was still green back then.
07:39 And then he was paired with...
07:42 Umi Aida.
07:43 Praise be to God.
07:45 Even though I'm a newbie, a new kid,
07:47 Ikan Bilis.
07:48 I'm the son of Ikan Bilis.
07:51 Even though I was still fresh back then,
07:54 I was paired with famous people.
07:58 People who have had long-term experiences in the art world.
08:02 And from there, I think...
08:06 I was placed, praise be to God,
08:07 I was placed in a place where I could really...
08:11 I could really know what my efforts or capabilities as a performer were.
08:16 Because from there, people said that love for...
08:20 Love, right?
08:21 Love for the art of acting,
08:24 it just automatically...
08:27 - ...spreads. - It's in there.
08:28 It's a shock.
08:29 - It's a shock. - It's a curse.
08:30 But when you first started working with them,
08:33 as the first actor,
08:34 did you get angry?
08:36 - Well, it's the first time. - It's a jungle.
08:39 - It's a jungle. - It's a jungle.
08:40 But when you got the sidekick or the heroine,
08:43 it was established.
08:45 How was it, Abang?
08:46 Did you have to take a lot of takes?
08:48 I think...
08:49 At that time, Fatima was more or less like me.
08:52 Because she knew I was a newbie.
08:54 And she was also the one who called me for the role.
08:57 Because I think...
08:59 I don't know what she saw in me at that time.
09:01 I think she saw that I could play the role of Lieutenant Koishi.
09:06 So she really wanted me to play that role.
09:10 Because she asked, we said we couldn't,
09:13 we didn't know what our capabilities were.
09:16 But she said it's okay.
09:17 - She'll give you the confidence. - She'll give you the confidence.
09:19 So for her to put that confidence and space in me,
09:22 - that was a gamble as a director. - Right.
09:25 It was already a big deal for her.
09:26 - So I couldn't carry the weight she gave me. - Right.
09:29 - Halfway, you were on your own. - Right.
09:31 But thank God,
09:32 because of that,
09:35 I became an individual who...
09:37 I had to accept this challenge.
09:39 I tried to do my best.
09:41 I don't know if we can say we're talented or good or whatever.
09:46 It's okay. But the important thing is we did our best.
09:50 And thank God, after we tried our best,
09:53 - the rest of it is history. - History.
09:56 But you still have your singing career, Dina.
09:59 - No. - Because it's a long journey.
10:02 - Film, drama, Akasha. - Yes.
10:04 - You recorded two albums. - Two albums with SRC.
10:08 And then I did a single,
10:10 I did it on my own.
10:12 Music is always the first love.
10:19 I want to know why you fell in love with music.
10:23 - Who influenced you? - Because you were young.
10:25 - You knew you liked music. - Yes, I was young.
10:28 My background is when I was a kid,
10:30 when I was 9 or 10 years old,
10:32 my father sent me to a piano class.
10:36 - Okay. - So I learned to play the piano until grade 4.
10:41 There was a basic music class.
10:43 Because my father was a music lover.
10:47 He could play the guitar and he liked to sing.
10:49 And his weekly activity was to do karaoke with my mother.
10:54 - So sweet. - We were already addicted to it.
10:59 So when I was in middle school,
11:06 my father knew I liked music.
11:10 He suggested that I apply for a talent contest.
11:15 - For talent time. - But that was after school.
11:17 - No one was against it. - No one.
11:21 - It was like he had a plan. - He had a plan.
11:27 He didn't want his children to be disobeyed.
11:30 So I was interested in it.
11:32 I followed it. I didn't know where it came from.
11:35 So thank God, because of his determination and passion,
11:40 I realized that I had been playing in the industry for over 20 years.
11:44 - Wow. - It's been 23 years.
11:49 - 23 years. - 23 years.
11:51 - And throughout the journey, you've been through many generations. - That's right.
11:56 - You've become a newbie. - That's right.
12:00 - A newbie. - Yes, I'm still young.
12:03 - I'll be a bit older. - A bit older.
12:05 - What will you do after 10 years? - I'll think about it.
12:08 I'll continue with the chronology.
12:11 After 23 years as an active artist,
12:16 - you're still active and never stop. - That's right.
12:19 I want to ask about the difference between culture.
12:24 For me, acting is easier now.
12:30 - Because you can discover through social media. - There's a platform.
12:33 There's an easier platform.
12:35 In the past, we had to audition.
12:38 But now, there's still casting and auditions.
12:40 But is there a difference in working ethics, attitude, and quality?
12:47 Yes, I think I can agree with Dina.
12:50 Because the transition to technology is too far and different.
12:55 We can't deny that technology is...
13:00 People say that because of the advancement of technology,
13:03 there are many things that we can do in a short time.
13:07 - Yes. - I understand.
13:09 Because of the internet and social networks,
13:14 people are exposed to many things.
13:17 - In terms of music, fashion, culture, and art. - That's right.
13:21 So, for the young people who are celebrities or artists now,
13:25 they are more well-groomed.
13:27 - Because they have... - They are more prepared.
13:29 Yes, they are more prepared.
13:31 In my time, we only knew who we were interested in.
13:35 - That's right. - We only knew...
13:37 Like me, when I was growing up,
13:40 the star of the time was Awi.
13:42 - Okay. - Dr. Awi.
13:44 With his red films and blue films.
13:46 - He had many films. - Yes.
13:48 - So, for me, the Malay hero was Awi. - Awi.
13:52 So, we saw Awi as our standard and template.
13:56 - I like him too. He's a rocker. - Yes.
14:00 - He has his own image. - His image.
14:03 - His character. - His aura.
14:05 - His personality and charisma. - That's right.
14:07 - We saw him and said, "Awi is cool." - That's right.
14:10 So, I was in the process of building my character.
14:14 Building our identity.
14:16 I said, "Can I take some of this quality of yours?"
14:19 "So that we can shape it."
14:21 So, throughout my career as an artist,
14:25 I borrowed a lot from our ancestors.
14:29 Our ancestors.
14:31 I borrowed a bit from them.
14:33 If I had a royalty system, I would have paid for it.
14:38 You would have paid a bit.
14:40 But that's the truth.
14:43 I think I'm an artist...
14:48 ...who didn't go through a formal education.
14:52 I didn't go to a school or any institution...
14:57 ...to learn about acting.
14:59 I didn't get a license in acting.
15:02 So, my concept is...
15:06 - ...the street... - The street license.
15:11 - The street license. - Yes, the street license.
15:14 I really appreciate the process.
15:17 I can't deny that throughout my career in this industry,
15:20 I met a lot of talented Malaysian artists.
15:25 - Agreed. - Very multi-talented.
15:27 We don't know about the other actors out there...
15:30 ...who can play the guitar as well as a musician.
15:33 Or sing as well as a singer.
15:35 But their focus is on acting.
15:38 There are a lot of them.
15:41 So, it's because of the spread of the term "pendedahan".
15:44 We don't follow people on Instagram.
15:47 - True. - Back then, we used to follow Dato' Awie.
15:49 - Now, we're more active. - A lot.
15:52 So, from an ethical point of view?
15:55 From an ethical point of view,
15:57 I think there are too many differences.
16:01 Because it's too easy to ignore the basics.
16:09 Back then, before I jumped into acting,
16:15 I was already in the acting class.
16:22 - Okay. - So, from that point of view,
16:24 I realized that in order to improve my skills,
16:32 I have to follow the basics.
16:35 But now, I think it's not a big deal.
16:42 Because it's easier for young people to access.
16:49 Because they have their own platform.
16:51 - They have their own identity. - They have their followers.
16:55 - Yes. - True.
16:56 So, those are the things that are out of reach.
17:00 - The things that we skip. - We skip a few.
17:02 The things that we don't see.
17:03 But, it's not a problem for me.
17:06 Because as long as we're in the industry,
17:08 and we have the awareness,
17:11 we always need to improve ourselves.
17:14 - Yes. - That's right.
17:16 If we want to talk about discipline,
17:19 we have to follow it.
17:20 No matter what the format is now.
17:22 Even though we've transitioned from analog to digital.
17:26 Now, everything is easier.
17:28 Editing is easier.
17:29 Everything is easier.
17:31 But, because of discipline.
17:32 If we keep up with the discipline,
17:36 it will be able to sustain us.
17:40 Because talent will come and go.
17:42 - True. - Too many.
17:43 But, what can make you stay?
17:47 What can make us stay and continue is discipline.
17:49 - Contribute to the quality of your work. - Yes, that's right.
17:52 - Your reputation is important. - That's right.
17:54 If we talk about controversy,
17:57 I think you're lacking in that.
17:59 - Lacking in controversy? - Yes.
18:00 - Thank God. - Now, I think.
18:02 - Now, it's lacking. - Yes.
18:03 But, is it really helpful for an artist,
18:06 or will it make the situation worse?
18:10 Because we don't have controversy,
18:11 we don't feel the gravity.
18:14 Basically, for me, as a celebrity,
18:17 as an artist,
18:19 some people call me an artist,
18:21 controversy, people say,
18:24 there's no such thing as bad publicity.
18:28 But, there is.
18:29 Because, we shouldn't forget one thing,
18:32 or we shouldn't forget one line,
18:33 that we are from the East,
18:36 we have a line.
18:37 - That's right. - There's a line that we cannot cross.
18:41 And, for me, that's important.
18:43 Because, no matter what,
18:45 if we want to put ourselves in the front,
18:47 we won't be able to compete with
18:49 Hollywood or Korea to do a promotion.
18:53 There's a line we cannot cross.
18:55 Because, we are Malay,
18:56 - and we are Muslim. - That's right.
18:58 So, for me, the controversy,
19:01 we'll see how it goes.
19:03 For me, what's important is,
19:05 when I can share,
19:07 or share useful things,
19:10 to those who follow or admire me.
19:13 Because, I only realized this
19:16 after I became a father.
19:18 - Do you understand? - When we feel like,
19:21 what we should be able to share with the community,
19:26 is the things that should be able to shape the society.
19:30 We can inspire people.
19:34 We know how people are,
19:36 with the political situation,
19:37 our country's journey,
19:38 and all kinds of people's struggles.
19:41 So, as an artist, I feel,
19:43 Alhamdulillah, my life is not so limited,
19:46 or limited compared to other people in the community.
19:50 And I feel, as an artist,
19:53 I am responsible to ensure that
19:57 we must continue to be motivated.
19:59 No matter what difficulties we face,
20:01 we must continue with the spirit of G2.
20:05 We can't give up.
20:07 For me, as an artist, that's what's important.
20:10 So, if we want to talk about the controversy,
20:13 or whatever,
20:15 we shouldn't let our image or value
20:19 be diminished.
20:21 - The value. - Yes.
20:23 The value of a celebrity.
20:25 That's it, actually.
20:27 But what if we change the perspective?
20:30 Don't be too strict.
20:31 But that's too strict.
20:34 No, no, no. Okay.
20:36 But if we change the perspective,
20:38 sometimes, there are some celebrities
20:41 who can't escape from what the media wants.
20:45 When they want to ask, they will ask negative things.
20:48 But if they don't want to answer,
20:49 they will write negative things.
20:51 And that's what happens to the artist.
20:53 So, how do they want to cover that up?
20:56 They want to go there.
20:57 But they also want to go there.
20:59 That's it. I think this is not about
21:02 the artist or the celebrity.
21:04 It's a collaboration between the celebrity
21:07 and the press and the media.
21:09 I think, well, the press and the media
21:11 are also journalists.
21:13 Journalism has their ethics.
21:15 So, I think there are things
21:17 that they should know
21:19 and shouldn't cross.
21:21 Because now, in the digital age,
21:23 everyone can be a journalist.
21:25 That's right.
21:26 Everyone can open a website,
21:28 type a lot of things,
21:29 make money from clicks.
21:31 But with a different headline.
21:33 We don't know if it's true or not.
21:35 Clickbait.
21:36 We don't know if it's true or not.
21:38 But the artist's name is still mentioned.
21:40 Yes.
21:41 And the artist's name is still a topic of conversation.
21:43 It's a topic of conversation.
21:44 People talk about it.
21:45 We don't know if it has an effect
21:48 on the artist's personality.
21:51 Maybe it makes them
21:53 become introverts.
21:58 Yes.
21:59 They feel pressured.
22:02 They feel something.
22:04 Because if we look at
22:06 how it works outside,
22:08 there are tabloids
22:10 that talk about things.
22:12 But there are also tabloids
22:14 that talk about
22:16 the intipati of a celebrity.
22:20 Let's take the example of
22:22 Rolling Stone.
22:24 If we read Rolling Stone,
22:26 we know that
22:28 when they write about a celebrity,
22:30 they write about their background,
22:32 their drive,
22:33 their direction,
22:35 their aspirations and inspirations.
22:39 And at the same time,
22:41 they also have magazines or tabloids
22:43 like TMZ.
22:44 Yes, the ones that only talk about stories.
22:46 But if I ask Dinar and Falik,
22:48 can you tell me
22:50 what magazines in Malaysia
22:52 that we read and get a lot of information
22:54 about the artist?
22:56 Good information.
22:58 That can drive us
23:00 and make us know
23:02 what to do.
23:04 I understand.
23:06 That's why I said
23:08 it needs to be a collaboration
23:10 between the press, media and artists.
23:13 Because if we only talk about
23:15 sensational things,
23:17 what are we giving back to the people?
23:19 What do we want people to read?
23:21 What information do we want our society to have?
23:24 I'm not saying we need to
23:26 walk like Rolling Stone
23:28 100% of the time.
23:30 But we need a platform
23:32 that can put our artists
23:34 to show that
23:36 their smile is
23:38 people who respect their work.
23:41 Not just living
23:43 on the road of controversy
23:45 but also sensational.
23:47 That's my view.
23:49 But here,
23:51 people want to know
23:53 about controversies.
23:55 Who's fighting with who?
23:57 Who's on a diet?
23:59 Who's not?
24:01 I'm talking about myself.
24:03 Who's not married yet?
24:05 Who's single?
24:07 That's a sad question.
24:09 But if you're talking about
24:11 children,
24:13 do you encourage them?
24:15 Or forbid them?
24:17 I never forbid them.
24:19 My nephew is interested
24:21 in playing guitar.
24:23 At 12 years old,
24:25 he did something
24:27 I never did when I was 12.
24:29 He played better.
24:31 I was 12 then.
24:33 I saw you uploaded it on Instagram.
24:35 When I saw that,
24:37 as a father,
24:39 I tried to encourage him.
24:41 I encouraged him to do
24:43 what he's interested in.
24:45 I told my children,
24:47 music is not something
24:49 that's done for fun.
24:51 We can do it because we like it.
24:53 It's a hobby.
24:55 When we're older,
24:57 we can hang out with our friends.
24:59 We can play music.
25:01 Instead of being filled
25:03 with unhealthy activities,
25:05 or not clean,
25:07 at least,
25:09 he can focus.
25:11 I never forbid my children.
25:13 But if they're serious
25:15 about becoming artists,
25:17 I suggest they don't be like their father.
25:19 Why?
25:21 Because their father travels
25:23 to different places.
25:25 So, I'll give them
25:27 a lot of advice.
25:29 I never had a manager.
25:31 I never had a management.
25:33 I don't know what to do.
25:35 Everyone is on their own.
25:37 That's why I know
25:39 what I have now,
25:41 what shapes the character
25:43 or the identity of an Akasha,
25:45 are the things I've been through
25:47 before.
25:49 But it's okay.
25:51 Your children can call you a manager.
25:53 70% of the time,
25:55 your father eats.
25:57 But, back to the story
25:59 with the children,
26:01 do they know that their father is an artist?
26:03 Or, do they know?
26:05 Do they know?
26:07 Do they know?
26:09 Do they know?
26:11 My children are
26:13 only one year apart.
26:15 My brother is two years apart.
26:17 My sister is one year apart.
26:19 So, at the first stage,
26:21 they're not aware of it.
26:23 They're not aware of it.
26:25 Unless we go out
26:27 and people want to take photos.
26:29 But, when they're
26:31 four, five, six years old,
26:33 they'll know.
26:35 They'll ask,
26:37 "Is your father an artist?"
26:39 "Is your father an Akasha?"
26:41 When we come to pick them up
26:43 from school,
26:45 sometimes,
26:47 we can't avoid it.
26:49 When the teachers
26:51 tell them,
26:53 "I'm interested in your father."
26:55 "Are you a girl or a boy?"
26:57 "I think I'm a girl."
26:59 "I'm a girl."
27:01 "I'm a girl."
27:03 "I'm interested in you."
27:05 "I'm interested in you."
27:07 That's why
27:09 when my children come home,
27:11 they ask me,
27:13 "Daddy, my teacher asked me,
27:15 "She's interested in you."
27:17 "She said you're an actor."
27:19 "What kind of story?"
27:21 "She said you're a Japanese."
27:23 "Yes, I'm a Japanese."
27:25 There are many dramas
27:27 that I've done.
27:29 I think,
27:31 throughout my career,
27:33 I've done hundreds of dramas.
27:35 So,
27:37 in the early 2000s,
27:39 my face was always
27:41 on TV.
27:43 Those who watch it now,
27:45 they might have become teachers,
27:47 teachers,
27:49 that's the story.
27:51 But,
27:53 when they know
27:55 that their father is an artist,
27:57 they'll take pictures.
27:59 Do you have to sing when you're on TV?
28:01 No, I don't.
28:03 I'm cool with it.
28:05 Okay.
28:07 You're handsome, sir.
28:09 You're handsome.
28:11 But, where do you see yourself
28:15 in
28:17 like five years?
28:19 In five years?
28:21 Five years from now.
28:23 Because you've done everything.
28:25 You've done hosting, singing,
28:27 acting, theatre.
28:29 From the acting side,
28:31 you've done everything in the medium.
28:33 Yes. A lot.
28:35 Or maybe it's a dream, sir,
28:37 in the five years to come?
28:39 Probably, most probably,
28:41 producing.
28:43 Producing musicals,
28:45 or music works.
28:47 Because now,
28:49 I'm back to being active.
28:51 I've done a lot of short shows.
28:53 Yes.
28:55 Before this, I've done a lot of private shows.
28:57 But,
28:59 those are all things for us to
29:01 check and see.
29:03 For sustainability.
29:05 But, this time, I want to
29:07 produce something that
29:09 I can share with everyone.
29:11 With the community,
29:13 with the young people.
29:15 Because I feel
29:17 reminded of
29:19 what our great artist,
29:21 Ruhatul Hamdi, said.
29:23 Our young people,
29:25 he said this in the 70s,
29:27 before he passed away.
29:29 Our young people,
29:31 their souls are empty.
29:33 So, if we don't fill them with our culture and art,
29:35 their souls will be filled
29:37 with other things.
29:39 We don't know if it's
29:41 what it should be.
29:43 But, it will be a loss.
29:45 Because we don't
29:47 let our children know
29:49 about our culture and art.
29:51 It's a loss.
29:53 Because, maybe 30 years down the road,
29:55 50 years down the road,
29:57 maybe our children don't know Lagun Bayu.
29:59 So, what else do we want to be brought?
30:01 What else do we want to put in our art?
30:03 What else do we want to bring out?
30:05 We don't have our identity.
30:07 We've lost everything.
30:09 So, I want to do something that
30:11 God willing, can attract people.
30:13 I like it.
30:15 Like a people's song.
30:17 I also have a woman's song.
30:19 So,
30:21 someone told you,
30:23 "Well, because you and Akasha,
30:25 you've been acting for a long time.
30:27 You were singing for a while,
30:29 then you suddenly acted.
30:31 Then you started singing again at GV.
30:33 Then you acted again.
30:35 Now, you want to go back to singing.
30:37 What's your focus?
30:39 But, you also did some work in the opposite direction, right?
30:41 Yes, I did.
30:43 It's all-rounder.
30:45 Because of that,
30:47 I've stepped into this industry.
30:49 I know that
30:51 I can't just sit in front of the camera.
30:53 In front of the lens.
30:55 I have to know
30:57 the progress and the process
30:59 behind the camera.
31:01 All the technicalities.
31:03 Because it's only there
31:05 that I can further improve
31:07 my understanding of what I need to do
31:09 in front of the camera.
31:11 So, I think those are all the factors
31:13 that make me able to stay in the industry for a long time.
31:17 Yes, you know the direction.
31:19 We have to know where to look.
31:21 Don't be stingy.
31:23 That's important.
31:25 People can't be stingy.
31:27 I've done this before.
31:29 That's right.
31:31 What's the story that
31:33 Akasha acted in?
31:35 It's not a movie, right?
31:37 It's like a documentary.
31:39 Bangunan.
31:41 It's like a documentary.
31:43 I didn't sleep for 3 nights.
31:45 That was one of my first projects.
31:47 With my fellow producers.
31:49 We had a production.
31:51 So, you were the sound man.
31:53 Yes, I was the sound man.
31:55 Oh my God.
31:57 If I was in the movie,
31:59 I wouldn't be the sound man.
32:01 That's the first thing.
32:03 Because you heard it first.
32:05 He's sensitive.
32:07 Are you scared?
32:09 I'm okay.
32:11 If you're disturbed, I'll leave you alone.
32:13 I'll disturb you.
32:15 I want to ask.
32:17 Do you know the trivia about the movie,
32:19 Rock Bro?
32:21 You know the movie, right?
32:23 Yes, I know.
32:25 I was the one who
32:27 arranged the sound for the movie.
32:29 It's not music score.
32:31 It's sound.
32:33 It's the scoring.
32:35 It's not the scoring.
32:37 Oh, okay.
32:39 Who took the score?
32:41 I took the audio, sound effects, dialogue.
32:43 I arranged it.
32:45 I mean, I mixed and finalized it.
32:47 I did it.
32:49 When I was in school,
32:51 I studied at ICOM.
32:53 I took the audio production.
32:55 So, I had the background of
32:57 audio engineering.
32:59 So, I thought
33:01 besides being a singer,
33:03 I should have the ability
33:05 to do technical things.
33:07 Like production.
33:09 So, that's one of the things
33:11 that I'm interested in.
33:13 That I like.
33:15 Because as an artist,
33:17 I just realized that when we make a movie,
33:19 when we have visuals,
33:21 it doesn't have any impact.
33:23 Until we put
33:25 the sound and the song.
33:27 That's right.
33:29 I agree.
33:31 100%, 300%.
33:33 Because when I watch a scary movie, I mute it.
33:35 Because you want to reduce the scary feeling.
33:39 It's not scary at all.
33:41 It's not scary at all.
33:43 You can go out and be surprised.
33:45 Nothing will happen.
33:47 But I mute the TV.
33:49 But the sensation is already half gone.
33:51 It's okay.
33:53 As long as I can sleep at night.
33:55 If you're afraid, don't watch it.
33:57 I want to.
33:59 Because if I don't watch it, I won't get the sensation.
34:01 Men are easy.
34:03 Don't watch it.
34:05 You're so...
34:07 There's a gang this week.
34:09 Okay, we've talked about the future.
34:11 We've talked about the past.
34:13 We want to throwback a little.
34:15 Sure.
34:17 We want to ask,
34:19 between the moments
34:21 that you feel like,
34:23 "I worked hard for this."
34:25 "This is the moment that I've worked hard for years."
34:27 "For this."
34:29 Those moments.
34:31 Those moments.
34:33 Do you have them?
34:35 Definitely.
34:37 Because
34:39 in the hundreds of productions
34:41 that I've been involved in,
34:43 of course, there are highs and lows.
34:45 There are highs and lows.
34:47 There are troughs and peaks.
34:49 There are.
34:51 So, when we're involved,
34:53 I don't need to say the specific production.
34:55 It's okay.
34:57 But, the team that we know,
34:59 from the management,
35:01 from the direction,
35:03 from the art direction,
35:05 everything is well-organized.
35:07 I know that
35:09 these are serious people in their work.
35:11 They want the best results in their work.
35:13 Even in the form of writing,
35:15 from the writing,
35:17 there are many drafts that are done
35:19 so that the writing looks rounder
35:21 and tidier.
35:23 So, in these productions,
35:25 I feel like
35:27 I'm still in the process.
35:29 This is it.
35:31 And even though I'm here,
35:33 I still feel like
35:35 I'm not done yet.
35:37 There are still things to do.
35:39 You're still not satisfied.
35:41 Because when I'm there,
35:43 with these great people,
35:45 I still feel unsatisfied.
35:47 Why?
35:49 Because I can do more.
35:51 I can do more.
35:53 You can do more.
35:55 So, that's what Dina said.
35:57 That's one of the moments that I know
35:59 when I'm there
36:01 with certain people.
36:03 Basically, when we work with people
36:05 that we know, we're on the same wavelength.
36:07 The frequency is the same.
36:09 They're not out of phase.
36:11 Everything is in phase.
36:13 It's beautiful.
36:15 So, our spirit is different.
36:17 The momentum of work is different.
36:19 The mood at work is different.
36:21 Because we know that everyone
36:23 who's there is not just
36:25 coming to work to get a check.
36:27 They contribute something.
36:29 And there are also people
36:31 that we know
36:33 that they're just
36:35 coming to get a check.
36:37 They just want money.
36:39 We know that the reason
36:41 is that as long as I'm in the industry,
36:43 until today,
36:45 we're giving the reason.
36:47 That's right.
36:49 Milk, diapers.
36:51 I'm 18 years old.
36:53 How can I drink milk?
36:55 I'm a neighbor's child.
36:57 I can only laugh.
36:59 I can't relate to this.
37:01 That's true, Dina.
37:03 That's why I said it's true.
37:05 You can't feed your child.
37:07 I don't know if I'm married.
37:11 We're married.
37:13 We're used to using
37:15 words like "for a bowl of rice".
37:17 That's a sad word.
37:19 What is this?
37:21 Are you a gang?
37:23 I'm a gentleman.
37:25 Talk!
37:27 Because I posted
37:29 a picture on Instagram with Dato' Awi.
37:31 Brother meets brother.
37:33 Then we became brothers.
37:35 When brother?
37:37 You're sitting next to me.
37:39 Not yet.
37:41 You're scared.
37:43 Have you ever
37:45 thought,
37:47 "Is it enough for me to be a singer?"
37:49 "Is it enough for me to be an actor?"
37:51 Do you want to give up?
37:53 Yes.
37:55 When it's been too long,
37:57 there must be a rise.
37:59 There's a wave.
38:01 There was a time
38:03 when I didn't do anything
38:05 for six months.
38:07 You didn't want to?
38:09 I rejected everything.
38:11 I went back to my hometown
38:13 and played guitar.
38:15 I did.
38:17 Because...
38:19 I was disappointed.
38:21 I was disappointed.
38:23 I felt a little
38:25 isolated.
38:27 But after a while,
38:29 I thought back.
38:31 What I felt does not matter.
38:33 What I felt is not important.
38:35 What's important is
38:37 what I want to do and share
38:39 with people.
38:41 Artists
38:43 have the same goal.
38:45 They want to share
38:47 their talents
38:49 and what they can do
38:51 with people.
38:53 What Allah has given you.
38:55 If people can't appreciate
38:57 what we can do,
38:59 what's the point?
39:01 We're just short.
39:03 We're just wasting our time.
39:05 I believe that every artist
39:07 has the same drive.
39:09 To do their best
39:11 to share their talents
39:13 and their souls
39:15 with the community.
39:17 With the public.
39:19 Because we all
39:21 are inspired
39:23 by people like that.
39:25 We see certain
39:27 public figures.
39:29 For example,
39:31 we take Sifu.
39:33 We take Dato' Emnasir.
39:35 Who doesn't know
39:37 his work?
39:39 The writing, melody,
39:41 arrangement, lyrics.
39:43 All of that
39:45 inspires people.
39:47 I believe that
39:49 everyone who is inspired
39:51 wants to do something like that
39:53 to inspire
39:55 the next generation.
39:57 It's the same.
39:59 It's the same process.
40:01 I believe
40:03 that's what makes me
40:05 want to say,
40:07 "Don't be lazy."
40:09 "Don't be in a mood."
40:11 "Get up and do your work."
40:13 "Get on your feet."
40:15 "Think about what you want to do."
40:17 "And stay focused."
40:19 So, at the end of the day,
40:21 we have to push ourselves.
40:23 No one cares about you.
40:25 That's the motivation.
40:27 That's right.
40:29 That's the power.
40:31 That's the reality.
40:33 I can't do it anymore.
40:35 The reality is
40:37 no one cares about you.
40:39 If you don't care about yourself,
40:41 who will?
40:43 That's right.
40:45 We have to care about ourselves.
40:47 That's right.
40:49 You're so bad.
40:51 But,
40:53 if I were to say
40:55 among the actors,
40:57 usually,
40:59 I think the challenge
41:01 is 10 years.
41:03 When you've been through 10 years,
41:05 the challenge
41:07 will be more and more.
41:09 The rejection will be more and more
41:11 than the acceptance.
41:13 Maybe you can share
41:15 how you do it.
41:17 We have to push ourselves.
41:19 But, it's not as easy as we say it.
41:21 That's right.
41:23 It's not as easy as we say it.
41:25 It's not as easy as we say it.
41:27 But, as a person,
41:29 as a human,
41:31 because we're all God,
41:33 we're all Muslims,
41:35 we have to be aware
41:37 that
41:39 not everyone will like
41:41 what we do.
41:43 So, don't be discouraged.
41:45 If people say bad things about us,
41:47 if they say bad things about us,
41:49 take it as it is.
41:51 We can take the good things,
41:53 the beautiful things,
41:55 but it's not fair.
41:57 The bad things will also
41:59 shape us.
42:01 I believe that
42:03 in every negative comment,
42:05 there's truth to it.
42:07 That's right.
42:09 No matter how silly
42:11 or stupid
42:13 someone is,
42:15 they always say it
42:17 with a certain meaning
42:19 and thought.
42:21 We're all Muslims.
42:23 We believe in God's laws.
42:25 The moment we hear those things,
42:27 it means that
42:29 God wants us to face it.
42:31 He wants us to compute it.
42:33 He wants us to think and weigh it.
42:35 Maybe it's true that there's something wrong
42:37 with what I do. We have to be more self-aware.
42:39 Be more patient.
42:41 So, as children,
42:43 don't be discouraged
42:45 or feel weak.
42:47 Don't feel weak
42:49 or
42:51 demotivated.
42:53 Don't feel hurt
42:55 or angry. Don't be hasty.
42:57 From my experience,
42:59 I can share that
43:01 all of those things
43:03 give us strength
43:05 or motivation to improve ourselves.
43:07 The moment we feel
43:09 perfect,
43:11 best,
43:13 that's the most problematic moment.
43:15 We'll start feeling
43:17 empty, excited,
43:19 and long.
43:21 That will make us feel like we can't go anywhere.
43:23 We can't move forward.
43:25 That's what will kill you.
43:27 When we limit the space for us to evolve,
43:29 we'll feel like
43:31 we've reached the limit.
43:33 When we reach the limit,
43:35 we've hit the wall.
43:37 When we hit the wall,
43:39 there's no room for us to evolve.
43:41 Make sure that there's always room for us to evolve.
43:43 The only way to make sure
43:45 that there's always room for us to evolve is
43:47 you're never good.
43:49 There's always room to improve.
43:51 That's it.
43:53 I agree.
43:55 Maybe I've said enough.
43:57 I'm lost.
43:59 I've said too much.
44:01 You can try like me.
44:03 Mr. Editor can repeat it.
44:05 I've said too much.
44:07 I agree with what you said.
44:09 We can't make everyone like us.
44:11 But don't make people hate us.
44:13 That's it.
44:15 Not bad, Pak Ali.
44:17 You're the best.
44:19 I'm a brother.
44:21 Brother.
44:23 For those who are coming,
44:25 I heard that you'll have a new project.
44:27 It's a theatre.
44:29 It's not a theatre.
44:31 It's a theatrical concept.
44:33 The concept is called
44:37 Fusion Alunlayar.
44:39 The concept is
44:41 this idea is not mine.
44:43 I'm just a part of the production team.
44:45 The idea came from
44:47 Syamsul Khairil
44:49 and Ashraf Goodman.
44:51 The producer.
44:53 The idea is
44:55 to produce songs
44:57 to create classical songs
45:01 from the 50s movies
45:03 to the new breath.
45:05 It means
45:07 they fuse the music.
45:09 They renew the music.
45:11 The 50s music is refreshed.
45:13 Yes, it's refreshed.
45:15 That's why it's called Fusion Alunlayar.
45:17 Why Fusion Alunlayar?
45:19 Fusion is about
45:21 diffusing classical music
45:23 to the
45:25 jazz genre.
45:27 Then pop.
45:29 It has all kinds of elements.
45:31 Alun is the melody.
45:33 Layar is about
45:35 the visual image
45:37 that will be expressed
45:39 with the performance.
45:41 When I heard the concept,
45:43 I thought it was a good idea.
45:45 We need to increase it.
45:49 Because
45:51 even though
45:53 Firambi is our masterpiece,
45:55 the work is not ours.
45:57 The work belongs to
45:59 a foreign country.
46:01 I think it's a pity
46:03 if we as Malaysians
46:05 or as a Malaysian government
46:07 can take back
46:09 the rights of the work.
46:11 The rights of the Piramli masterpiece.
46:13 We can preserve it
46:15 so we can pass it on
46:17 to the next generation.
46:19 We don't have to lie.
46:23 If we say we don't watch films
46:25 or we don't watch Malay movies,
46:27 people will say that.
46:29 In reality, we all grow
46:31 with the influence of films and music.
46:33 It doesn't matter if you're becoming
46:35 a professional lawyer or doctor.
46:37 The origin is still there.
46:39 There must be a film you watch.
46:41 You can't just sit and watch a film
46:43 in the forest.
46:45 Don't get angry.
46:47 My brother is angry.
46:49 Don't joke around.
46:51 So, when is
46:55 Fusion Alunlayak?
46:57 Fusion Alunlayak
46:59 will be released
47:01 on 7th October.
47:03 Next week?
47:05 Just wait.
47:07 Tickets are already sold.
47:09 Those who follow my
47:11 Instagram platform can follow.
47:13 The price is there.
47:15 The price and information
47:17 are all there.
47:19 What I want to say is
47:21 I hope many people
47:23 can give their support to the project.
47:25 Because
47:27 for me, it's important
47:29 to preserve
47:31 all the
47:33 art in Malaysia.
47:35 Because
47:37 for Piramli, our great artist,
47:39 we missed the moment.
47:41 We couldn't preserve it.
47:43 Even the songs are difficult
47:45 to listen to on the radio.
47:47 Because we didn't have the rights.
47:49 Right.
47:51 So, it's a pity.
47:53 We named it
47:55 "Great Artist".
47:57 But where is the greatness?
47:59 If we
48:01 didn't preserve it,
48:03 if we didn't take care of it,
48:05 who else?
48:07 Who else?
48:09 So, another reason is
48:11 when we promote
48:13 the art, no matter how creative it is,
48:15 there's more space
48:17 for others to
48:19 create.
48:21 There are more variations of entertainment in Malaysia.
48:23 So, we support. Where is the location?
48:25 The location is
48:27 Dewan Orkestra Aswara.
48:29 Who are the actors?
48:31 There are two singers.
48:33 Me and Asmida.
48:35 And we also have
48:37 a reporter with us.
48:39 Dato' Hajah Fauziah Nawi.
48:41 Dato' Ibu.
48:43 Dato' Ibu.
48:45 So, he will be
48:47 the reporter throughout the show.
48:49 Because he's not just a singer and
48:51 a visual. He has a story.
48:53 I understand. It's fun.
48:55 Right? 7th October
48:57 Dewan Orkestra Aswara.
48:59 For more information, you can go to
49:01 Akasha's Instagram.
49:03 I've also checked Asmida's Instagram.
49:05 You can go there.
49:07 I want to use extra to tell you,
49:09 brother.
49:11 Job.
49:13 Maybe before we close,
49:15 one word for young people
49:17 who might want to
49:19 join the industry.
49:21 It doesn't matter what field.
49:23 Any advice or advice you can share.
49:25 As a brother
49:27 who's been doing this for a long time,
49:29 I've never
49:31 had a bad vibe.
49:33 Or negative
49:35 opinion towards anyone
49:37 who wants to join the industry.
49:39 But, for me,
49:41 when we
49:43 decide to join
49:45 the industry,
49:47 at least, we need to have
49:49 a sense of respect
49:51 towards the discipline
49:53 and the art.
49:55 If we're already in this field,
49:57 we need to make sure
49:59 we know the basics.
50:01 The basics.
50:03 Without the basics,
50:05 why is it called
50:07 a foundation?
50:09 Because
50:11 that's the foundation.
50:13 Without the foundation, we can't stand up.
50:15 We can't do anything.
50:17 So, foundation and basics are very important.
50:19 There's no pretense.
50:21 In religion, the basics are important.
50:23 Without the basics,
50:25 there's no point in telling the story.
50:27 Whatever you tell,
50:29 the basics are important.
50:31 So, to the young people
50:33 who want to join the art world,
50:35 for me,
50:37 we need to respect the process.
50:39 We need to know the basics.
50:41 We need to know
50:43 our goal in this industry.
50:45 I understand
50:47 that all artists
50:49 will probably go through a phase
50:51 where, of course,
50:53 being popular is great.
50:55 It will give us many opportunities.
50:57 It's all about money.
50:59 It's all about income.
51:01 But,
51:03 that's not the only goal.
51:05 Don't fall for that.
51:07 It's like we're politicians.
51:09 It's not just about
51:11 the allowance we're chasing.
51:13 We're chasing the development
51:15 of the society.
51:17 That's the point.
51:19 Pull it back.
51:21 That's the point.
51:23 So, that's all for this week's
51:25 Borat Celebrity with Akash.
51:27 Thank you, Rina.
51:29 It was fun. I'm so happy
51:31 to see so many roller coasters today.
51:33 Thank you so much.
51:35 Thank you, everyone. Bye-bye.
51:37 [Music]
51:39 [Music]
51:41 ♪ Cuping telinyah kecilmu ♪
51:46 ♪ Luahkan perasaanku ♪
51:50 ♪ Dan membisikkan ♪
51:53 ♪ Aku cinta kamu ♪
51:57 ♪ Hadiahkan ♪
51:58 ♪ Kanas barah di setiap pagi harimu ♪
52:03 ♪ Dengan harapan agar kau tahu ♪
52:11 ♪ Semoga kau tahu ♪
52:15 ♪ Ingin ku gigit-gigit ♪
52:18 ♪ Cuping telinyah kecilmu ♪
52:22 ♪ Luahkan perasaanku ♪
52:26 ♪ Dan membisikkan ♪
52:29 ♪ Aku cinta kamu ♪
52:33 ♪ Hadiahkan ♪
52:34 ♪ Kanas barah di setiap pagi harimu ♪
52:40 ♪ Dengan harapan agar kau tahu ♪
52:45 ♪ Semoga kau tahu ♪
52:51 ♪ Ku gila kamu ♪
52:56 ♪ Kau obsesi ku ♪
53:07 ♪ Ku gila kamu ♪
53:12 ♪ Amun ♪
53:14 ♪ Kandai takdir ♪
53:16 ♪ Memisahkan kita ♪
53:18 ♪ Hmm, tak betul diai suku ♪
53:21 ♪ Tau lah kau ini tengah momen tadi kan ♪
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