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00:40 He is the almost famous Adam Carriker, I'm the much less famous Jeff Tern, and I had to deal with some family stuff this week, so I did not get the chance to hang out with Isaac Bruce.
00:51 I have not hung out with Adam Carriker since last Sunday when we recapped the Big Ten action from the week, so very happy to be back with you, Adam. How are you doing today, sir?
01:01 I'm doing great. It's glorious to have you back. You decided to take the week off and do absolutely nothing. I'm just kidding. Your wife had surgery. How is your wife doing?
01:11 Adam, you know this, as you have 17,000 kids and I have three, it gets very tough when your wife is not at 100%, whether she catches the flu or COVID or has a surgery.
01:23 So much truth.
01:25 So much truth, right? So my wife has her gallbladder removed on Wednesday and she's doing okay. She probably won't go back to work until sometime early this week.
01:35 But I have had full daddy duty, man. You don't realize how much you co-parent in the morning and how much you co-parent at night and you split up the rides.
01:46 Dude, it's been a one-man band and that band has been failing. We have dropped in the charts. We are not doing great. We have been struggling to survive.
01:56 Are you the Jeff Turd householder?
01:59 Yeah, my kids are one, two, and three and I'm somewhere down at like 10 as far as the power struggle in the house. So my wife is doing much better than I am trying to make it through. So yeah, man, you know how it goes.
02:10 My biggest takeaway is that your wife is fine. You're the one we all need to pray for. That's what I'm taking away from this.
02:16 She can't get sick, man. She can't get sick ever again. All right? Like ever.
02:20 Oh, man.
02:21 So we made it. Okay. We're going to get to a recap of the action from the week. We're going to talk about Adams Power Rankings.
02:29 But before we do, we are going to introduce a new game to the show. It's called what are you talking about, man? All right. And so all of these things from what the hell are you talking about, man? Come from Adam over the weekend. All right.
02:45 So we're going to go and I encourage everyone to like his Facebook page. Follow him on Twitter. Great content. He does this thing called character Chronicles, which is awesome. Gut reactions. All you Husker fans will love it. Guy is amazing.
02:58 Except when he starts to spew some stuff that I think what the heck you're talking about, man. So first statement I have to read on this glorious Big Ten show brought to you by Jacobson Seed Company can be found on iTunes, Spotify, YouTube, Sports Illustrated and Bally's.
03:14 Adam one day ago puts this on Twitter and on Facebook. And I want you to tell me what the heck you're talking about, man. Okay. With NIL and the transfer portal, I could see how some folks might start to feel differently.
03:29 But for now, I feel that real college football fans do not boo. Just putting that out there. What you talking about, man? I think it's pretty self-explanatory. First of all, this is coming from the guy who picked Iowa to win the Big Ten championship.
03:47 Minnesota ahead of just about everybody in his power rankings. And we all know what happened to them versus the stack of books you known as Northwestern yesterday. And what was the other team that you were vehemently backing last week that I mocked you for? There was another one. But those were the top two. Like, you look really bad today. But I digress. You look great. You just oh my God. Now you look.
04:09 That's who I was backing. The you, baby. This is a Big Ten show. Stop it. What was I talking about? Okay. So my whole life, I've been like college athletes or college athletes, and they should be treated differently than the pros. I've never once said, hey, don't boo a professional athlete.
04:28 Personally, I wouldn't do it. Even before I played, I have a hard time booing another human being if they're legitimately doing their best. Now, if they're having a bad attitude, they're throwing a fit. They're not giving 100%. It's different. But if somebody goes out and stinks up the joint, given their best effort, and they have a horrifically horrible day. Okay. But with college athletes, I always felt differently.
04:48 Like as a Nebraska guy, when Scott Frost played horrifically horrible in 1996, which he did, and then he came out and struggled in early 97 before he broke out against Washington and had a really good season the rest of the year. Nebraska fans booed him during the UCF game when Frankie London came in, led Nebraska right down the field to a touchdown and Frost came back on the field. I didn't think that was cool. I don't think that's cool in college sports.
05:11 What I'm saying is this. When you start making five, or I was going to say five mil because I'm thinking of Shadur Sanders. Not everybody's Shadur Sanders. When you start making hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions of dollars in NIL, and all of a sudden you can come and go as you please via the transfer portal. So there's a lot less accountability. All of a sudden it becomes semi pro sports.
05:31 And when you are getting those perks and you become a semi pro athlete, I start to view you as a semi pro athlete and I start to view how I can treat you. Again, no violence, none of that, no threats. That's ridiculous. But with the boo department, I might start to view you a little bit differently. I'm not there yet, but I swear to God, Colorado has reminded me of Miami teams outside of-
05:52 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Don't get there yet. That's the next part of this. So I want to take you back to my sophomore year in college. I think it was 2004.
06:04 Okay. You were in college for 24 years. What year was that?
06:07 This was year two of seven.
06:09 Wow. Seriously? Okay. COVID eligibility rules. Go ahead.
06:13 I started in '03. I graduated in 2010.
06:16 Wow.
06:17 All right. So I want to take you back to 2004. I'm at the University of Minnesota. We're sitting row three or two at about the 50 yard line. We've got the tickets from a scalper before the game. And all around us are all these alums from the University of Minnesota.
06:45 But I don't remember what game it was of the year, but it was Big Ten play. And they got off to another great start. The year before, I remember Michigan came roaring back to the Metrodome, beat Glenn Mason.
06:55 They were off to like a 6-0 start, and they tanked, and they ended up at the Music City Bowl every year.
06:59 Well, anyways, me and my buddies, we paid for our tickets. We're sitting there, and the quarterback play is god awful. Guy goes over to the phone. He's sitting there talking.
07:07 We're booing him. We're telling him how much he sucks, how bad they are. They're going to blow out their -- all of a sudden, a group of people behind us start chiming in, telling us, "Oh, you guys can't be mean to them because they're college students."
07:19 I said, "Listen, I'm a college student, too. I paid my student fees. I paid my tuition. I paid for my ticket."
07:26 Guess what? The reason they can have scholarships is because of all you people and because of me. It ain't about compensation.
07:32 We're playing football for free, literally because we pay our student fees, and we raise money for the school and all of that.
07:38 I said, "He's playing like crap. We're just letting him know."
07:42 Well, the lady behind me says, "Well, guess what? My dad is Glenn Mason, and I am not happy that you're talking to those kids like that. They're trying their hardest."
07:51 I told her, "It's perfect that you're sitting by me. You can tell your dad directly, 'They suck, and he needs a new quarterback.'"
07:58 So, we get up and walk out. I believe this was her fiancé.
08:03 Anyways, we get to a little, very narrowly crowded area at the Metrodome.
08:07 Dude keeps chirping, keeps chirping, and I keep chirping back. He takes a beer and chucks it at me.
08:13 I duck, gets the people behind me. The Minneapolis Police Department was watching it. They did not detain him.
08:19 They just separated us. I wasn't going to fight him. I'm not a fighter. I'm a lover.
08:22 But that is how I feel about talking to college athletes. This was 20-some years ago before NIL.
08:30 You put the jersey on. You got a scholarship. You're playing quarterback for a major Power Five school.
08:36 Man, if you can't handle some boos and you think it is discolorful, go play a sport that doesn't generate revenue.
08:46 That's all I have to say. If you're in a non-revenue-generating sport, you will never hear me boo.
08:52 If somebody's hurt, never boo at them. If they're sick, never boo at them.
08:56 Football players deserve to get booed at them. You guys are tough SOBs.
09:00 So, a couple of things I want to address there. So, the sports that don't generate revenue, you won't boo.
09:08 But the sport, along with basketball, that does generate revenue, so that all these other sports can even exist, you'll boo those guys.
09:18 That makes perfect sense. No wonder you went to college for 84 years.
09:22 By the way, this logic is coming from a guy. Did your mom and dad pay for your school? Genuine question.
09:28 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Trust me, dude. Six figures of student loan debt was all me, baby.
09:34 I respect that. My sister walked away with that and then interest for years. I respect that.
09:39 My respect level before you went back up after it dropped.
09:42 But a couple other things. You kind of made my point, and I think you misspoke.
09:47 You said they're out there playing football for free. I think you meant they're getting paid via scholarships to play football.
09:54 But you kind of are making my point when you misspoke with that, because that's my point now.
10:00 They weren't being compensated based on what they actually should have been. It wasn't equivalent or even close.
10:07 That's why I took that into consideration. Now that they're being compensated more relative to what they should have been being compensated all these years,
10:15 now I view you differently. There is a gigantic monetary difference now versus before.
10:20 I'm not yet to the point where I'm just going to outright boo a 19-year-old kid just because you might be high and drunk in your fifth year of college,
10:28 and then you're still on your freshman courses, and you can do anything you want throughout the week and on a Saturday,
10:33 because you can go to school for almost a decade. These kids only have so long to play, earn a spot, do these things.
10:39 I digress. I'm waiting for the nail thing, by the way. When's that coming up?
10:43 I didn't see that, dude! I didn't see that!
10:45 Thanks for watching my gut reaction on Saturday. Jeez, Girl Dad.
10:49 I told you I was taking care of three children, okay? I didn't have time for your gut reaction.
10:53 All I got to say is Girl Dad, and when does this crap come off? Seriously, it's day five. When does it come off?
10:59 Girl Dad, my boys loved to paint their nails when they were probably three or four years old.
11:03 I've had the nails done on the toes, the fingers, the whole thing.
11:06 Hey, man, congratulations. You look better than ever, actually, to be honest with you.
11:10 I appreciate that.
11:11 It brings out the color of your eyes.
11:12 I appreciate it. You like how they don't match at all?
11:14 I love it.
11:15 Secondly, okay, now that Adam has told us he's a wuss and can't handle getting booed.
11:19 Exactly.
11:20 What you talking about, man? All right, so let me get this straight.
11:24 Matt, rule in his players, pray at midfield, invite Shadour to pray with them, and that's "personal."
11:30 But when Colorado tramples all over the O at Oregon, that's okay.
11:34 Colorado is the new Miami of the late '80s and the early '90s.
11:37 Do not invoke the greatest run in college football history.
11:42 Whoa. Nope.
11:44 With a team that went 3-0 against teams that are garbage this year, okay?
11:53 You can't even think to invoke the greatest run in college football history,
11:58 which produced more NFL talent over a stretch of time than anyone in the history of college football,
12:04 high-level talent, to a team that's 3-0.
12:08 And by the way, I am not a fan of Baker Mayfield planting the flag or scratching your feet on the O.
12:14 I think that is petty and stupid.
12:16 But I'm more upset with you trying to compare guys that were getting it done
12:22 and then showing out versus guys that have maybe been showing out while they're getting it done.
12:27 There's a difference to me.
12:29 So here's what you've got to understand, and here's where I'm going to help you elevate your social media game,
12:34 because I knew exactly what I was doing with that tweet.
12:37 Number one, they act exactly-- not exactly.
12:40 Okay, they haven't been doing it long enough.
12:42 Give it time. They'll get there.
12:44 They remind me exactly of the late '80s, early '90s Miami teams
12:48 as far as how they conduct themselves and how they act.
12:50 The double standard--
12:51 Like studs? Is that what you're trying to tell me?
12:54 Like absolute studs?
12:55 Like every kid that watches them wants to go and play at that school?
12:59 Because that's what happened with Miami.
13:00 When they were dancing at the Cotton Bowl, I mean, they were shooting the guns.
13:06 I mean, it's just absolutely-- they had the cutoffs, dude,
13:10 so you could see that they had a 12-pack down there.
13:12 It ain't talking about beer.
13:14 I mean, they were-- it was absolutely the greatest time.
13:18 They changed the rules of celebrating for touchdowns because Miami was having too much fun.
13:24 They were the fun police at the NCAA.
13:26 Now are you driving the fun police van today?
13:29 Is that what you're doing?
13:31 So as I was saying, okay, with how they act,
13:35 they remind me of the late '80s, early Miami's team.
13:38 I remember that Cotton Bowl.
13:39 Now I didn't watch it live, but I've watched it since,
13:42 and I have seen what you're talking about.
13:44 That is an absolute embarrassment, okay?
13:47 And, yes, they changed rules because if that was college football,
13:50 college football wouldn't be around because it would be the wild, wild west,
13:54 and there's a reason gunslingers aren't around anymore.
13:57 So first of all, that's exactly what I think of when I think of Colorado right now
14:01 with how they conduct themselves.
14:03 But you notice I didn't address-- because I originally typed that tweet out,
14:07 that post, and I said, "Minus the national championships."
14:11 And then-- it's on my end, my apologies, okay?
14:15 And then I deleted it because I said, "I don't have to point that out.
14:20 I'll let the people point that out."
14:22 It's better if the people point it out, and boy, did they.
14:26 So I knew what would happen.
14:28 You've got to anticipate these things, Jeff.
14:30 That's how you'll gain more than 10 followers wherever you're at--11, 12.
14:34 So it was leading the horse to water and letting the horse piss all over that water,
14:40 which is exactly what I knew would happen.
14:42 Oh, no, they're not anywhere near as good as those Miami--that's ridiculous.
14:45 I wasn't comparing the wins.
14:48 I've watched Colorado up until yesterday--I mean, they got smoked yesterday,
14:52 as we all know.
14:53 The 12 quarters leading up to yesterday, I watched them get outplayed,
14:57 10 of those 12 quarters.
14:58 And that includes the first half of the Nebraska game where Nebraska outplayed them.
15:02 They just found ways to win, which I give them credit for.
15:05 But of the 16 quarters they've played so far this year, they've been outplayed in 14.
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15:30 Final one, and this is the one I may have taken the most exception with.
15:33 Good.
15:34 Because I've had a lot of guests on my show over the years, locally, nationally,
15:39 and there's some people that I don't learn a damn thing from.
15:43 I'm like, "I don't know, man."
15:45 You're one of the people I've learned so much football from.
15:48 We've had so many conversations on this show, so many conversations on my other one.
15:52 How you don't have a vast appreciation for Matt Millen,
16:00 one of my favorite announcers, one of my favorite people.
16:06 I think he's a four-time Super Bowl champion.
16:09 He has forgotten more football than I will ever know.
16:13 You're about to lose a lot of credibility.
16:15 No, no, no.
16:18 No, not to lose credibility.
16:20 Listen, he has been employed by Fox for like a decade calling football games,
16:26 the Big Ten Network.
16:27 Do you think the executives at the Big Ten Network and at Fox are morons
16:32 and don't understand talent and don't understand analysis?
16:35 They don't keep employing people if they suck.
16:38 They put them on TV if they're entertaining, if they're insightful,
16:41 if they have a great resume, and if they know football.
16:44 And Matt Millen is all of those things.
16:46 Just because he's dogging on Nebraska every broadcast the last 10 years
16:50 because of self-inflicted wounds, because of their own programs inadequacies,
16:54 doesn't mean Husker fans have to call him biased against Nebraska.
16:58 Okay?
16:59 I understand Nebraska beat him when he was playing at Penn State.
17:01 That is neither here nor there.
17:03 That's 50 years ago.
17:05 Matt Millen is a football gem.
17:08 Take away the Detroit Lion years, and he is a savant.
17:12 Yeah, those are the newer facts.
17:15 [Crosstalk]
17:17 Four Super Bowls.
17:18 He's a college football and a pro football hall of famer.
17:23 What do you want?
17:26 And you were talking smack.
17:27 You guys were talking smack, all of you,
17:29 on Facebook about the announcers of the game
17:32 because they were giving love to Louisiana Tech
17:34 because they were tied with the Big Ten team at halftime.
17:37 You didn't want the smoke.
17:39 Do you need your inhaler?
17:40 Do you have an inhaler?
17:42 I need something.
17:43 Oxygen.
17:45 Borrow your son's inhaler while he does nail polish on your toenails.
17:49 All right, so Matt Millen.
17:51 I've actually met Matt Millen.
17:52 Great guy.
17:53 I had a pre-draft interview with him when he was at the Lions.
17:57 Okay?
17:58 So a couple of things.
17:59 Number one, you listed out any and all the reasons that people sometimes get
18:03 analyst jobs.
18:04 The only thing he actually has in his corner is the resume.
18:07 That's it.
18:08 No way.
18:09 No way.
18:10 That's all he has.
18:11 That's exactly what just happened.
18:13 I loved Matt Millen.
18:14 When I met him, he was great to me.
18:16 He was friendly to me.
18:17 There were some pre-draft NFL visits that I had that were just absolute
18:21 nightmares.
18:22 Eric Mangini, wow, that guy's a psycho.
18:25 I don't know how else to put it.
18:26 You won't be coming to the Big Ten show.
18:28 This is not personal.
18:29 This is my observation.
18:31 And if you remember the exact moment when I tweeted that out,
18:34 what prompted me to say it when he was sitting there talking about the
18:37 bellies of the players on Louisiana Tech?
18:40 He is talking about the bellies of the players of Louisiana.
18:45 No.
18:46 How much do they jiggle?
18:47 Is it one jiggle?
18:48 Two jiggles?
18:49 It was weird.
18:50 It was awkward.
18:51 It was dead air.
18:52 And up until that point, the commentary had been fairly below average.
18:57 I didn't really care.
18:58 It was what it was.
18:59 But when he went off, I stared at the screen like, what is he talking about?
19:03 And then my wife walks in the room.
19:05 She goes, did you hear what he was just talking about?
19:07 Because she's in the other room watching the TV.
19:09 Who is this guy?
19:10 What's wrong with him?
19:11 I'm like, yeah, he sucks.
19:12 I'm just going to point it out.
19:14 A great guy, great player.
19:16 We'll ignore that he once punched a Nebraska individual
19:19 after he lost to Nebraska.
19:20 And that's why he's so biased against Nebraska.
19:23 Also, you look at the Detroit Lions days.
19:26 Everything that you just laid out, he should have been a great GM.
19:30 He was God-freaking-awful.
19:32 And he's admitted that.
19:33 But he's a good announcer.
19:35 They keep hiring.
19:36 This is a legendary player.
19:38 This is a guy, I'm sure he knows football.
19:43 But just because you know football doesn't mean you can express football.
19:46 There are two different things.
19:48 You can express football, and you don't even know football.
19:51 It's an amazing switch of fortunes with you and Matt Millen.
19:56 True story, though, and I do, I coach a lot of sports.
20:00 I have coached with this guy who played at Colorado State for five years.
20:04 And the first thing he told me, because he played when Colorado State was
20:07 good, like Sonny Lubick years, they were ranked every year.
20:10 He's in his mid-40s, a little older than me.
20:13 The first thing he told me, he's a DB, he goes, "I'm not that athletic.
20:16 I was always beating other guys to the spot because I was smarter than them,
20:19 and I had to reinvent myself, and I had to know more than them."
20:22 And so that was my anticipation of this individual.
20:25 After about coaching with him for two months, I was like, "This is BS.
20:28 This guy doesn't know much."
20:30 And then one day he starts running routes, and I'm like, "Holy crap, Johnny,
20:33 you're absurdly athletic.
20:35 Like, it's ridiculous how athletic you are."
20:37 He goes, "No, I'm not."
20:38 And so as the years roll along, and we've been together for five years,
20:41 anytime he does something, he's ridiculously athletic, even in his mid-40s.
20:45 And his football knowledge is not great.
20:48 He's ran our offense in the past.
20:50 We got shut out four times in one year.
20:52 He ran our defense last spring.
20:54 Our last five games, we didn't give up less than 50 points.
20:57 And then when he took over and coached the team for a year, the team
21:00 completely and utterly fell apart after I had put it together, built it,
21:04 and kept it for four years.
21:05 And within two games, he comes to me and goes, "Adams, the team's falling apart."
21:08 I'm like, "I know. I can see it.
21:10 You're not doing a very good job."
21:11 And so this guy you would think knows football.
21:15 Uh-uh.
21:16 He doesn't even know how to coach wide receivers.
21:18 He knows how to coach DBs at the eighth-grade level, and that's it.
21:21 Okay?
21:22 You have to be able to express football is my point.
21:25 All right, and maybe that's me venting on a guy that's kind of driven me nuts,
21:29 and I just ran out of patience with him, but that's neither here nor there.
21:32 The point, my friend, was up until then, the announcing wasn't anything unique,
21:39 and then it was, and it was weird, and it was awkward,
21:41 and that's the moment I put that out.
21:44 I'm coming someday on the show with a belly shirt, man.
21:46 It's just going to be up right underneath my boobs,
21:48 and then I'm just going to sit here and do the show with you,
21:50 and then we're going to talk about my belly.
21:52 I prefer you wear a bra and a mask if that's okay.
21:54 I can do both. No problem.
21:56 Adam Carriker, I'm Jeff Turing. This is Big Ten Show.
21:58 That's enough of what the heck you're talking about, man.
22:00 Let's get to the games. Let's talk about--
22:02 You haven't even talked about any football yet.
22:04 This was great. People will love this more than the analysis of these games
22:07 that they already watched.
22:08 Penn State is where Matt Millen went to school.
22:10 Penn State dominated a team that was just rolling offensively
22:13 heading into this week.
22:15 [laughter]
22:18 I don't know what happened to the offense because it was doing so many good things.
22:21 [laughter]
22:23 Give me your thoughts on Penn State's dominance of Iowa.
22:26 You just threw me off with that line.
22:29 Oh, man.
22:31 Let me gather myself. I needed an alien now.
22:34 All right.
22:36 Coming in, Penn State defensive end, Danny Dennis Sutton,
22:40 and I quote, "We felt like it should be a shutout."
22:43 End quote. That was it.
22:45 That's how bad Iowa's offense is.
22:47 Drew Allard throws for four TDs.
22:49 Penn State's defense forces four turnovers,
22:52 and they lead the seventh-ranked Nittany Lions to a squeaker
22:56 of a last-second victory over number 24 Iowa, 31 to nothing.
23:00 Penn State led 10-0 at halftime, 24-0 going into the fourth quarter.
23:04 This game was never really interesting, to be honest with you,
23:07 in any way, shape, or form.
23:09 Iowa, at one point--you'll love this--talking about an explosive, dynamic offense.
23:12 At one point, over a five-drive period, 15 plays, so 5-3 and outs,
23:17 they had one total yard.
23:19 Wow, dynamic.
23:21 Here are some stats. It's mind-blowingly bad.
23:24 If Brian Ferenc--I'm not even going to call him Baby Ferenc.
23:27 It's not even funny at this point.
23:29 If Brian Ferenc wasn't Kirk Ferenc's son, he would have been fired last year,
23:32 and he would have been fired right after the game Saturday.
23:35 Listen to these stats. First downs, Iowa 4, Penn State 28.
23:39 Third down efficiency, Iowa 1 of 9, Penn State 9 of 20.
23:43 Total yards, Iowa 76, Penn State 397.
23:49 Pass yards, Iowa 56, Penn State 182.
23:52 Pass attempts, 6 of 16, Iowa 26 of 40.
23:55 Penn State rush yards. This is what Iowa does, right?
23:58 Their physical blue collar in-your-face smash mouth, bam, 20 rush yards on the day.
24:03 215 for Penn State.
24:05 Whopping 1.2 yards per carry for the mighty Hawkeyes offense, 3.8 for Penn State.
24:09 Four fumbles. Four turnovers and fumbles for the Hawkeyes, 0 for Penn State.
24:14 And actually, of all the bad stats, this is the one I circled.
24:18 This is the only one I circled.
24:21 I don't know if you're looking at my nail polish or what I circled.
24:24 - But time of possession? - Of possession, 1433 to 4527.
24:30 - More than 3 to 1. - I didn't win a lot of games.
24:34 Caden McNamara, 5 of 14, 42 yards. Drew Euler, 25 of 37, 166 yards.
24:38 Four TDs, Iowa's offense, okay, 21.25 points per game.
24:45 They were averaging 28 points per game just a week ago.
24:48 It dropped by a whole touchdown.
24:50 Listen, we don't have much time left in the show, so I'm not going to spend a lot of time on Iowa.
24:55 - I wouldn't either if I was you. - But people are going to go,
24:58 "Jeff, you picked Iowa to win the Big Ten. Aren't you devastated right now?"
25:02 No, I picked them to lose to Penn State.
25:04 A loss is a loss. You can lose 60 to nothing, or you can lose 21 to 20.
25:08 They count the same. It doesn't matter to me.
25:11 Spoken like a guy who's high in the stands yelling at amateur athletes.
25:14 Iowa's going to win the rest of their games, and they'll be in the Big Ten title game.
25:18 We'll circle back. We'll circle back then.
25:21 All right, let's get to Ohio State and Notre Dame.
25:25 - Ohio State-- - Go ahead.
25:27 Ohio State, first of all, is not on the same level of Penn State.
25:31 They're not on the same level of Michigan to start the season.
25:33 It doesn't mean they won't be there at the end, but this game was indicative of that.
25:37 Notre Dame is a good football team.
25:39 I think they'll probably be somewhere around that top 10 by the time the season's over.
25:43 10 to 15 at the worst, whatever.
25:47 Notre Dame had that game, and if their defense gets a stop on that final drive, it's a wrap.
25:52 They score on that final play there with the rushing touchdown for Ohio State.
25:56 They get the win. The win counts the same, but I just think when you watch the body of work
26:01 of Penn State and Michigan, they're here, and Ohio State's right here.
26:04 Ohio State could be up here by the time the season is done.
26:07 Ryan Day has a lot to work with there. That offense hasn't been right.
26:11 When Ohio State's been at its best, the offense has been a juggernaut.
26:15 I would say that's a little bit of a concern, but man, what a fun football game.
26:18 Not often do I get excited about '17-14 finals because I like a lot of scoring,
26:22 but that was a fun football game to watch because it was so close the whole time.
26:26 - Dude, that offense is more than a concern, but the one thing Ohio State has going for them,
26:30 other than they're absurdly talented like every year, they're actually playing defense this year,
26:34 which they have not done in four years since 2019.
26:37 All right, I did my recon. Let me get through it, and then we can go speedily
26:40 through some of the other games. All right, number six, Ohio State.
26:42 17, Notre Dame, number nine, 14.
26:45 All right, Ohio State was a whopping 3-0 at halftime.
26:48 I felt like I was watching a highly entertaining and really boring football/soccer game.
26:52 Okay, 10-0. They took the lead, and at that point, I'm like, "Man, I don't know
26:56 if Notre Dame's even going to score." Notre Dame scores 14 unanswered, goes up 14-10
27:00 with 8.22 left in the fourth quarter. Sam Hartman throws a two-yard touchdown pass
27:04 to Rico Flores Jr., giving the Irish the lead.
27:07 The very next drive, Notre Dame's defense, and there wasn't a whole lot of time
27:11 left after this. Maybe four minutes. Gets a fourth down stop on their 11-yard line,
27:15 and I'm thinking, "It's a wrap. Ohio State's offense ain't exactly blowing the roof
27:19 off the joint. They got to stop Notre Dame, then they got to go the length of the field.
27:22 Notre Dame's got it." All right, now on the Buckeyes' last scoring drive,
27:25 they converted a 3rd-and-19, and right before that, this drives me nuts.
27:29 It's a defensive line. I'm like, "Oh, my God. They're going to rush three."
27:34 And then what do you know? They give up the first down on 3rd-and-19,
27:38 and down to their own one-yard line go the Buckeyes.
27:41 I hate when teams do that. - Me too. Me too.
27:44 - I literally said it right before the ball was passed. - Drives me crazy.
27:47 Just play your normal defense, be aggressive, and end the game.
27:50 - Yep. And then that put the ball near the Irish's goal line.
27:53 Oh, I should mention, earlier in the drive, I actually gained a lot of respect
27:56 for Kyle McCord in this particular drive, because you convert that 3rd-and-19.
28:01 They also converted a 4th-and-7, okay? And then the last two plays of the game,
28:06 so that was big on McCord's part, but the last two plays of the game,
28:09 Notre Dame screwed the pooch. They only had 10 players on the field.
28:12 They were short a defensive lineman, okay? And they still almost stopped
28:16 Ohio State's go-ahead touchdown run. Now, Irish head coach Marcus Freeman,
28:20 after the game, he said they saw they were a man short.
28:24 They were going to run another guy on the field, but he told the player to stay
28:27 since he didn't have any timeouts left, and he didn't want a penalty to give
28:31 the Buckeyes a free down and/or move the ball, which was on the one-yard line,
28:35 the half-yard line, okay, and move it any closer.
28:38 And so you could say Ohio State won this. I would say Notre Dame blew it.
28:42 Either way, I did gain respect for Kyle McCord throughout that drive.
28:46 All right, now Notre Dame actually had a pretty decisive time of possession
28:49 advantage by almost 10 minutes. Sam Hartman, Irish's quarterback,
28:53 17 to 25, 175 yards, 1 TD. Kyle McCord, again, earned a lot of respect for me.
28:57 I don't think he's a great player, but he just might be clutch.
29:01 And here's exactly what I wrote right as the game ended.
29:03 I said he wasn't C.J. Stroud the whole game, but he was Tim Tebow in clutch time.
29:09 He ended up 21 to 37 for 240 yards.
29:12 - He's Adam Karriker. I'm Jeff Tern. This is the Big Ten Show
29:15 brought to you by Jacobson Seed Company. I'm going to actually call an audible.
29:18 We're going to save your power rankings for the midweek show because I know--
29:22 - I don't have enough time on this. - I know. We don't have enough time
29:25 for the power rankings because we still have one other topic to get to, okay?
29:30 Was it more of an impressive win that Maryland continues to roll,
29:35 or was it more of a disappointing loss that Minnesota blew their lead
29:40 to Northwestern? What says Adam Karriker?
29:42 - Oh, Minnesota. Dude, Northwestern beats Minnesota 37-34.
29:46 If you didn't watch the game, it was 31 to 10 midway through the fourth quarter.
29:52 The game was over. Minnesota had it won. Your team, the team that you're backing,
29:55 the team that you overrated severely last week in your power ranking.
29:59 Northwestern quarterback Ben Bryant threw for nearly 400 yards.
30:02 Like, what? Where did that come from?
30:04 And the game winning touchdown pass to Charlie Mangieri.
30:06 I hope I said that right. An overtime to cap a 21-point comeback
30:09 in about eight freaking minutes. You know the University of Nebraska's
30:13 largest comeback of all time, okay, is 21 points, and that took them
30:16 almost two full quarters. This meltdown took a full eight and a half minutes.
30:20 - Yeah, I felt like-- - A minute's worth of losing. My God.
30:23 - It felt like PJ Fleck was on a commercial for Flex Seal,
30:27 and he was out in the middle of the lake without the--
30:30 there was a hole in his canoe, and he couldn't find the Flex Seal
30:34 to seal up the boat because all of a sudden it starts to--
30:37 - Dude, I love it. - And he's paddling to the shore,
30:39 and he's trying to find the Flex Seal, and he's paddling,
30:41 and by the time he sees the shore, he sees the end of the game,
30:45 but he can't get there because Northwestern is scoring too many points on him.
30:49 They lost to Bowling Green a couple of years ago in a season that--
30:54 the schedule was set up perfectly for Minnesota to probably win 10-11 game.
30:58 They lost to Bowling Green, and I thought that was the worst loss
31:00 of PJ Fleck's tenure. Yesterday was the worst loss.
31:03 Yesterday was the worst loss. As great as that Penn State win
31:06 was a handful of years ago, which I thought was the greatest win
31:09 of PJ Fleck's career at home against Penn State--
31:12 - I remember. - They were rolling--yep.
31:14 This is as equally as bad. I mean--
31:17 - The-- - You lost to Northwestern!
31:20 - And they were up by 21! - Yeah.
31:22 - With eight to go. You guys suck. Okay?
31:25 I mean, you'll be okay, but you suck today. You suck. Okay?
31:28 Can't believe it. You guys suck.
31:30 - I just want to--I didn't want to go through every game,
31:32 but quickly--I'm not going to argue with anything you just said.
31:34 Maryland-Michigan State. Here's what I wrote.
31:36 Maryland's 4-0, 31-2, Michigan State is 2-2, had 9.
31:39 The worst thing Michigan State football ever did was hire Mel Tucker.
31:43 - The worst. - Okay? Michigan State
31:45 had more first downs and more total yards and more time of possession,
31:48 but how do you do all that and lose 31-9?
31:51 Not 31-29, 31-9.
31:53 All right, they also had five times as many turnovers as Maryland did.
31:57 - That's how you do it. - Five to Maryland's one.
31:59 All right, Michigan State could actually be a good football team.
32:01 I really believe that, but Mel Tucker may be--oh, God.
32:04 I did write this, and I'm going to read it.
32:06 Mel Tucker--oh, God, I'm going to read it.
32:09 Mel Tucker may be the biggest waste of money, okay,
32:12 in the Big Ten outside of Scott Frost.
32:15 [laughter]
32:18 I'm quoting that, and I'm sending it out,
32:21 and you're going to retweet it, okay, Mr. I Know Social Media?
32:24 No, no, no, we're not doing all that.
32:27 You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to have our girl Lindsay--
32:31 - I'm going to have our girl Lindsay-- - No, you're not.
32:33 - Clip that clip. - No, you're not.
32:35 - Time mark, 31-minute, 31-59. - No, you're not.
32:38 - And we're sending it out. - I said it.
32:41 And it's up for debate. It's not unequivocal.
32:44 - It's up for debate. - I said it.
32:47 I said it, but you've got to watch the whole show if you want to get that, Jim.
32:51 - And I did want to touch on-- - I'm clipping this.
32:54 - No, you're not. - That's so sad.
32:57 - Dude, I am the guy-- - No one's watching the Big Ten show this week.
33:01 Just put that out there.
33:03 I am the guy that when time came, I said Frost needed to go,
33:07 and it was really hard for me to do.
33:09 The reason I don't want that clipped is that that's hard for me to say.
33:13 I know it is, man, but dear God, that is probably the most golden thing
33:16 you've ever said on this show.
33:19 As far as it pertains to the money that Scott Frost was paid.
33:23 Nothing to do with recruiting, nothing else.
33:26 - But I would argue-- - You've got to watch the whole show.
33:29 Okay, that's fine. I would argue there's probably one or two
33:34 relative to the time frame and how much it cost him.
33:37 - But man-- - It's a debate, yeah.
33:39 But he's in there. He's in the debate.
33:41 But Mel Tucker's worse off than Frost.
33:43 At least Frost had the pedigree of being a Nebraska alum
33:47 and doing something for that university as a football player at least.
33:50 Like hell, even if you just compensated him with his coaching contract
33:53 for what he did as a player, you could at least sort of--
33:56 you could go, "All right, well, man, there was some compensation
33:59 that equaled some production," but it was when he was playing.
34:02 This is just terrible at Michigan State right now.
34:05 I hate that last thing you just said.
34:07 - Because how many players-- - Not as much as I love what you just said.
34:10 How many players would you have to go back and back pay?
34:13 - If that's the idea. - I'm just saying, like,
34:15 if you're in your mind going, "All right, well, this dude stunk it up
34:18 as a coach but was great as a player," we could sort of see some value there.
34:21 Mel Tucker did nothing for Michigan State prior to showing up there
34:23 and taking the bag.
34:24 So actually, Mel Tucker, his first or second year, I don't remember for sure,
34:29 they had a top 10 team. They won a New Year's Six Bowl game.
34:32 They beat the ACC champs in the Sugar Bowl, I believe.
34:36 I just wanted to touch on Rutgers and Michigan.
34:39 Rutgers actually had a-- because Rutgers has surprised me this year.
34:42 Legit surprised-- I didn't even think they had a Power Five roster.
34:46 We said as much. It was barely D1, it appeared to me.
34:49 Okay, but they were undefeated coming into this game.
34:52 We won't spend a bunch of time, but they actually had a 7-0 lead
34:54 to start the game. Then Michigan never looked back, scoring 31 on answer,
34:57 winning 31 to 7.
34:59 All right, now, here's the thing. Here's what I wanted to point out.
35:02 Rutgers is nothing. Greg Sciano's doing a good job up there again.
35:07 Not long ago-- well, it was a while ago now, maybe 15 years--
35:10 he had them number two in the country at one point.
35:12 I don't know if that's ever going to happen again,
35:13 especially when you've got to play Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State
35:15 every year. Okay, but that's nothing to be ashamed of
35:18 because they're exceeding expectations.
35:20 They made it competitive for a while.
35:22 Michigan may be the best, if not the best team in the Big Ten,
35:24 number two in the country.
35:26 And honestly, I'm looking at Nebraska staring down the barrel of a game
35:29 versus Michigan this Saturday, and it could be very similar
35:31 for Nebraska this Saturday.
35:33 And I don't know that. I believe that's the case yet,
35:36 so it wouldn't shock me if it is.
35:37 But if somebody told me, "Hey," at the beginning of the year,
35:39 "Hey, Michigan's going to beat Rutgers like 56-3,"
35:42 I'd have said, "Okay."
35:43 So 31-7 doesn't sound as bad.
35:45 I'm trying to actually give Rutgers some props here.
35:47 It was 14-7 at halftime. They played a good first half.
35:49 They just didn't know.
35:50 They didn't have the talent to match up.
35:52 He's Adam Karikar. I'm Jeff Turner.
35:53 All right, that's enough for the breakdowns of the week.
35:57 We wanted to get the power rankings in.
35:59 We're not going to until the midweek show,
36:01 so a little tease for you.
36:03 You're going to have to tune into that and find out
36:05 Adam's power rankings for the week.
36:07 And what we're going to do is just every other week,
36:09 we're just going to unveil our own power rankings,
36:10 and we'll critique each other.
36:12 We'll also get our picks for the Big Ten Parlay,
36:14 and we'll have a guest this week on the show.
36:16 Great interview, by the way, with Isaac Bruce last week.
36:19 If you guys missed that, you can go check that out
36:21 on YouTube, iTunes, Spotify as well.
36:25 But I just have one simple question about the power rankings, okay?
36:28 If Adam Karikar looked to the future, as he does so often,
36:32 times in the sky, and ended up putting Miami in the Big Ten,
36:40 and we were looking only at the resume from this year,
36:44 where would you put the 4-0 Hurricanes right now
36:48 in the Big Ten power rankings?
36:50 What number would you slot them in?
36:54 15th.
36:55 [laughter]
36:57 I've got to be honest with you.
36:59 I haven't watched a down of Miami football this year.
37:02 You don't need to. They're 4-0.
37:03 They just scored 41 points and rushed the football.
37:06 Colorado was 3-0, and look what happened there.
37:09 They had 500-plus charts.
37:11 Who have they played so far this year?
37:14 They just played-- Have you ever seen--
37:17 I don't know.
37:18 The Temple Owls!
37:20 Dude.
37:23 Okay, who else? Are they D1 at least?
37:26 They beat Bethune-Cockman!
37:29 Okay, not D1. Who else?
37:32 I think they beat Virginia, I think.
37:35 Virginia's awful.
37:36 They're like-- Well, Northwestern just won.
37:38 Purdue. They're like Purdue.
37:40 Okay, I'm looking at my power rankings.
37:44 I would put them-- I'll be honest with you.
37:47 Get out of the top five in the Big Ten, and it's muddy waters,
37:50 and there's not a lot of phenomenal teams.
37:52 I'm just being real with you.
37:54 For that reason alone, they're probably somewhere in the top five.
37:57 Right around-- I mean, I got Michigan--
38:00 I'm just going to tell you the top three.
38:01 It's not going to shock you.
38:02 If Ohio State and Miami played tomorrow at the most neutral site in the country,
38:06 which is Council Bluffs, Iowa,
38:08 would you take Miami or Ohio State?
38:13 Send all your hate mail to Council Bluffs, Iowa.
38:15 No, it's the most neutral site in the state.
38:17 That's where every game should be played.
38:19 It's like middle of America, Council Bluffs.
38:21 That's where I'd play.
38:22 Bill King, shout out to Bill King.
38:23 He came up with that years ago.
38:25 Put them-- I would put Miami at three behind Michigan and Penn State.
38:31 Well, I was going to say--
38:32 I almost flipped Penn State and Michigan this week.
38:34 I'm really close, okay?
38:36 But I got Michigan, Penn State, Ohio State, one, two, three.
38:39 I have Maryland at four.
38:40 No, no, no, no, no, no.
38:41 I hear the rest of it.
38:42 I'm not giving you the whole, okay?
38:43 I'm just saying I'd probably have them around four.
38:47 If they played Ohio State, I'd probably favor them.
38:51 McCord earned respect, but he still doesn't impress, if that makes any sense.
38:56 I can just tell you this.
38:57 A McCord ain't got nothing on a Van Dyke.
38:59 All right, that's plain and simple right there, baby.
39:02 Woo!
39:03 The U is back, baby.
39:06 Can't wait.
39:07 All right, that's Adam Karikar.
39:08 I'm Jeff Turd, as another page is turned here on the Big Ten Show.
39:12 Check us out on iTunes, Spotify, YouTube, Sports Illustrated, and on Bally's.
39:16 We'll have another great show for you later this week.
39:18 Hopefully you enjoyed all the weekend action and all our recaps.
39:20 Adam will have our power rankings coming up later this week as well.
39:24 Thank you, Adam.
39:25 Look forward to next week, and I look forward to chatting.
39:28 Thanks, buddy.
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