On the latest episode of Celtics Beat, Adam and Evan were joined by Celtics writer Gary Washburn of The Boston Globe.
As the team prepares for training camp, the Celtics have multiple injuries to manage and be concerned about, specifically Malcolm Brogdon and Kristaps Porzingis. Gary shares his thoughts on the team's health concerns, including Jayson Tatum's nagging wrist issues over the past few seasons.
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As the team prepares for training camp, the Celtics have multiple injuries to manage and be concerned about, specifically Malcolm Brogdon and Kristaps Porzingis. Gary shares his thoughts on the team's health concerns, including Jayson Tatum's nagging wrist issues over the past few seasons.
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00:00 Historically speaking, the Celtics as an organization have a reputation for downplaying injuries.
00:04 And then they turned out being worse, more severe, simply take longer to return.
00:09 And it's guy after guy after guy.
00:12 There are so many examples of it going over the last 20 years and as recently as the last couple of years.
00:18 So this is not something that we just look back to like the New Big Three era.
00:21 This has happened more recently with people like Rob Williams and others as well.
00:25 So does that enter the back of your mind at all to where you say,
00:28 "Okay, I mean, he should be okay, but maybe he's not?"
00:32 Of course, and the same thing with Malcolm Brogdon.
00:34 I mean, we've heard nothing about his elbow injury other than he didn't get surgery, obviously.
00:41 So you hope that he's coming into camp healthy too and he's completely healed.
00:46 We really haven't heard much about that.
00:48 So, you know, I'm sure the Celtics want to be as healthy as they can be,
00:54 but obviously they're not going to, "Oh, you're right, you're right."
00:57 They're going to downplay an injury.
00:59 But I don't think this is a situation where they're downplaying.
01:04 I think it's probably a situation where he just signed and it probably wasn't worth it for him to play for now.
01:12 You know, maybe does he try to play in the qualifying?
01:15 Does he try to help Latvia get into the Olympics?
01:18 And I don't know when those qualifying tournaments are and if it's during the NBA season, absolutely not.
01:23 So that might be his last shot playing with his home country and trying to get them into the Olympic Games.
01:30 But I think the Celtics are just trying to be as safe as they can be.
01:36 But we never know what's going on.
01:39 Like, you can't assume anything, Adam, you're right.
01:43 I mean, you just, as we know, like, I'd be very highly surprised if everybody in camp
01:51 on October 2nd is completely 100% healthy.
01:55 There's going to be some type of nagging injury.
01:58 We'll see how Malcolm, Malcolm's the one I'm concerned about too.
02:02 We've heard nothing and he's angry with the team.
02:05 So I don't think communication between the two sides have been fruitful.
02:10 So he could just say, "Listen, man, I'm not getting no surgery.
02:14 I'm just going to let this heal and y'all just going to have to wait for me to let it heal."
02:18 You know, it could be somewhat of a protest for being on the trade block or something.
02:21 I don't know, but you would think that that wouldn't be the case.
02:24 But we'll see October 2nd, you know, when they, and then October 3rd, when that first practice is,
02:30 like, actually who's on the floor.
02:33 - Let's go right there though, because I think that probably, you know,
02:37 raised an eyebrow for people out there listening.
02:40 If Malcolm Brock didn't, I would get it.
02:42 You know, I'm not blaming him.
02:43 But if Brock isn't upset with the team...
02:45 - Oh, yeah, he is.
02:46 He's angry.
02:47 - How concerning is that?
02:48 Well, I mean, that's, you know...
02:50 - No, he was not happy.
02:52 I mean, now was that, you know, he was not happy in July.
02:56 Is he the same level of unhappiness in September?
03:01 We don't know.
03:02 You know, he hasn't talked all summer, and people have tried to reach him, or he hasn't
03:06 spoken at all all summer.
03:07 So we don't know.
03:08 It's just like Marcus Smart.
03:10 Is Marcus Smart as hurt by the trade to Memphis now as he was in July?
03:16 No.
03:17 He's kind of into being a Memphis Grizzly.
03:20 He sees the future.
03:21 He's excited.
03:23 So does time let those things kind of dissipate?
03:26 But yeah, like Malcolm Brockman was not happy about the deal.
03:30 He heard being potentially dealt.
03:32 There was not...
03:33 There's no...
03:34 He was pissed.
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03:55 - I want to get into another nagging injury that nobody's really talked about, and only
03:58 because you mentioned, you know, a few of them, I was just kind of...
04:03 Kind of re-entered my brain, because we haven't thought about this for a while, because he
04:07 hasn't played basketball for a while.
04:08 But Jason Tatum's had a wrist injury, what feels like two post-seasons in a row here.
04:12 And we kept hearing, "He's putting off surgery.
04:15 He's putting off surgery.
04:16 He's going to let it heal naturally."
04:17 Do we have any clarification or clarity on how Jason's doing with an injury that's been
04:21 nagging him for the past two seasons?
04:22 - I thought he...
04:23 I think if he needed surgery, he would have had surgery this off-season.
04:26 The fact that he's working out with, like, everybody, right?
04:31 And you see him that...
04:34 He's got to be 100%.
04:35 I just don't understand why you would enter a season with a partially damaged wrist if
04:39 it hasn't healed and that you need surgery.
04:41 I mean, as we remember a couple years ago, Jalen had his wrist surgery.
04:46 You know, the wrist is a very sensitive part.
04:48 You land on it.
04:49 I mean, obviously, every time you hit the floor and you try to brace yourself, there's
04:54 your wrist.
04:55 You know, so that's a delicate injury, right?
04:59 So if I'm Jason Tatum, if I need to, I need to have this procedure.
05:05 So obviously, he hasn't, unless he is just absolutely against having surgery.
05:12 So as a Celtics fan, you hope that that's the case, that he is just...
05:18 He is healed naturally and he's ready to go.
05:21 I said I talked to him at the Hall of Fame about a month ago.
05:25 He seemed excited about the season.
05:27 You know, there was no wrap on his wrist or anything when I saw him.
05:32 So I think he's ready to go.
05:35 And I'm sure there's something he'll be asked at training camp about how's his health.
05:40 He'll say he's fine.
05:43 The fact is that it could be something that could cause some discomfort.
05:48 But the fact that he hasn't had surgery, there's been nothing procedurally done to it, leads
05:54 me to believe that it's not that serious of an injury.
05:56 He's played through two postseasons with it now.
05:58 So maybe this is just something that he deals with.
06:02 And you know, I would assume, considering that he's worked out, he's doing all these,
06:09 you know, deadlifting 900 pounds and all this stuff that you guys see, that the wrist isn't
06:16 a factor in him, you know, literally trying to be Charles Atlas.
06:22 I mean, it's just like...
06:23 He's never been like 450, like it's nothing.
06:25 He's just up there.
06:26 Yeah, he's a strong dude.
06:27 I mean, why are you strong?
06:30 I was impressed with Jason's strength.
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06:57 I watched that video.
06:58 I'm like, he can add more weight to that.
06:59 He's doing that pretty easy.
07:00 Yeah, yeah.
07:01 I mean, you know, and I think the fact that and working out with Pierce and, uh, thinking
07:05 of working out with Jalen, I think he was working out with Kevin Durant.
07:09 So, I mean, you know, if he's hooping like that and doing those things, I think he's
07:13 ready to go.
07:14 I mean, obviously, you know, he's got a lot of experience.
07:17 He's got a lot of experience.
07:18 He's got a lot of experience.
07:19 He's got a lot of experience.
07:20 He's got a lot of experience.
07:21 He's got a lot of experience.
07:22 He's got a lot of experience.
07:23 He's got a lot of experience.
07:24 He's got a lot of experience.
07:25 He's got a lot of experience.
07:26 I mean, obviously, as we've talked about before, this is a humongous, humongous season
07:31 for the franchise and a humongous season for Jason.
07:34 I mean, obviously he's going to get paid next year, so it's not going to affect his finances.
07:40 He's going to be, he's going to be maxed, right?
07:42 It's not, it's not any situation where he's not going to be maxed, but for his personal
07:46 reputation in terms of being a leader, a star, uh, the man, uh, MVP candidate, this is a,
07:54 a tremendously important season.
07:56 So I, I, I'm sorry, I gotta go back.
07:59 Cause I'm, I'm just like between Tatum's wrist and Brogdon's arm and Borzingas' foot and
08:06 Malcolm's pissed.
08:07 Like this is a real, this is a real, like our pet's heads are falling off addition to
08:13 Celtics feet right here, unintentionally.
08:15 That was not the goal, but now I'm, now I'm sort of stuck on Brogdon.
08:19 Like you, you were talking about his, his discontent with the organization, not knowing
08:22 what it is right now versus what it was, obviously, maybe he's sort of made terms with the fact
08:26 that it's a business and he's over it and he's going to get himself ready for the season.
08:30 But I don't know, is there, I know we're sitting here in mid September.
08:33 Is there any chance that he's not on this team?
08:37 I would think not.
08:38 I think he's on the team, man.
08:40 I don't know if they're, I don't think they're trying to deal him again.
08:43 Um, I just think it was, it was something where it was either him or Marcus and you
08:49 know, it was Marcus.
08:51 So they need him.
08:52 That's the thing.
08:53 It's not like, Oh, you'd have to be on for a guard.
08:55 Yeah.
08:56 Yeah.
08:57 They don't, it's not like they don't need Malcolm Brogdon.
08:58 They do.
08:59 So there's going to have to be conversations and I'm sure there have been over the summer
09:03 to just say, Hey man, we're, you know, this is the business.
09:06 I mean, Malcolm's been traded before.
09:08 He was traded from Milwaukee to Indiana.
09:10 He's traded from Indiana to Boston.
09:12 So this is not something he's not used to.
09:14 I think he's a total pro.
09:15 He's 30 years old, but I do think the, the, the, you know, I don't know whether he was
09:20 not informed about the deal, whether, uh, or he got learned how he learned, like Marcus
09:26 revealed that he was told a week before that he wasn't going to be moved and he was moved
09:31 and he found out, you know, his fiance found out and he was asleep when it happened.
09:36 It could be in how it was relayed.
09:40 You know, it, it, it's an interesting dynamic there, but I think that, you know, Malcolm's
09:46 a grown man, I think he understands what that doesn't mean he's not upset about it.
09:50 Um, so I was told, yeah, he was not happy with how things went down now.
09:55 Does that increase his level of mistrust in the Celtics organization?
10:00 But I do think you eventually get over it.
10:02 I mean, this is the, this is, this is the new NBA.
10:04 There's trade requests, guys playing for teams they never thought they'd be playing for trade
10:11 requests.
10:12 Don't go through, you know, things happen.
10:14 This is, this is the new NBA where like, like these things just don't happen.
10:18 These things happen all the time.
10:21 And there's, you know, Jaylen was mad about being dangled for Durant.
10:24 Like guys got to get over the feelings.
10:26 This is the way it is.
10:27 And it's not like they're not tough or I'm challenging their, their, their ability to
10:32 deal with adversity.
10:34 But this is the way it is.
10:36 Like you're playing for 20, he's making $21 million, $22 million a year.
10:40 He's playing for a championship caliber team.
10:43 So I think he'll eventually understand if he doesn't already that, Hey, this is a big
10:47 deal.
10:48 I got to bounce.
10:49 I got to, I got to make this happen.
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