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Hi Stefan, I wrote a question on Sunday about diet/weight loss and being in a trance. You mentioned dissociation with food and asked, "Who am I serving?" I did some research over the past few days. Can you please elaborate or guide me in the proper direction where I can do more research? By the way, I'm 45, single, have no kids, and need to lose over 50-60 lbs.
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00:00:00 Good evening, Wednesday Night Live, 23rd.
00:00:01 I'll get my shirt on soon, I just came out of the gym.
00:00:04 I'm stinky sweat, so I'll put my shirt on in a sec.
00:00:08 Tech rant or travel rant?
00:00:11 Tech rant or travel rant?
00:00:13 Because somebody said, you want travel?
00:00:18 Is both a bit too much?
00:00:21 Hard to tell, you want tech rant, travel first,
00:00:24 travel rant for sure?
00:00:25 When girth discussion?
00:00:29 Unfortunately, like I could do a girth discussion,
00:00:32 I would do that by standing up.
00:00:34 The tragedy is that it's 16 by nine,
00:00:37 so it wouldn't be wide enough.
00:00:38 The screen would not be wide enough.
00:00:40 Oh, by the way, did you see this thing
00:00:42 where this very overweight woman
00:00:44 got interviewed on Fat Acceptance?
00:00:46 The host was portrait, but she was landscaped.
00:00:49 Does the tech rant have to do with roaming fees?
00:00:51 No, no, it's, permission to swear?
00:00:56 I don't know, it's up to you.
00:00:58 Up to you, let me know, permission to swear, yeah?
00:01:01 Fucking printers.
00:01:04 Fucking printers.
00:01:08 You know, when I come back in another life,
00:01:13 I'm never gonna buy a printer.
00:01:15 I'm gonna buy a small Japanese man to sit in a box
00:01:18 with calligraphy and pig ink.
00:01:19 That's gonna be my solution.
00:01:21 Maybe, maybe, just maybe I'll need to print something
00:01:23 once every month, I don't care.
00:01:25 I don't care.
00:01:28 Small Japanese guy in a cardboard box,
00:01:31 writing things out by hand
00:01:33 is faster than having a printer.
00:01:35 So what did happen today?
00:01:36 I needed to fill out some stupid ass paperwork,
00:01:38 and because people send you paperwork
00:01:43 that they want you to fill out,
00:01:44 do they include any place for you to fill it out?
00:01:46 Nope, so you gotta print it out,
00:01:48 you gotta write shit down, you gotta scan it,
00:01:50 you gotta send it back, why?
00:01:52 Because apparently we're just retarded as a species.
00:01:55 We have all of this incredible technology,
00:01:57 but no, we still must slaughter wood
00:02:00 to get data across to people.
00:02:03 So I have a printer upstairs,
00:02:06 'cause I don't use a printer that often, right?
00:02:07 I have a printer upstairs,
00:02:08 and I view going to touch the printer
00:02:14 that's supposed to be wireless,
00:02:15 I go viewing to touch that printer
00:02:18 as a cowardly and emasculating mark
00:02:21 of estrogen-laced surrender.
00:02:26 Like, if you have to touch that printer,
00:02:27 it's a network printer,
00:02:28 you should be able to put it in the attic.
00:02:31 It's a network printer.
00:02:32 If I have to go and touch that printer,
00:02:34 what's the point of having a network printer?
00:02:37 There's no point.
00:02:38 So I will do just about anything to avoid touching it.
00:02:41 It's a matter of pride, it's just a matter of pride.
00:02:43 I will not go and touch that printer.
00:02:46 I won't do it, ladies and gentlemen.
00:02:49 If there's any way to not do it, I won't do it.
00:02:53 A4 load letter, pfft, pfft, pfft.
00:02:55 I mean, every time I scan, every time I scan anything,
00:03:01 it's like, well, the width is wider than the suggested,
00:03:04 hellalala, do you still wanna scan?
00:03:06 Fuck, I don't know.
00:03:07 Just make a decision for me and don't make it a stupid one.
00:03:11 That's all I want, make a decision for me
00:03:13 and don't make it a stupid one.
00:03:14 Well, the boundaries are outside the scan
00:03:16 of the this, that, and the other.
00:03:17 It's like, I don't know, just scan some shit.
00:03:21 It fits in the glass, it's on the glass.
00:03:23 How about you just scan it?
00:03:26 Don't tell me there might be some esoteric problem
00:03:29 of some kind of width that I don't,
00:03:31 the thing is 8 1/2 by 11, that's the glass.
00:03:33 I put it on, I close it, don't tell me there's a problem
00:03:36 when I'm doing exactly the dimensions that you have.
00:03:39 God almighty.
00:03:41 It's like buying a pair of shoes,
00:03:44 like I'm 10 1/2, right?
00:03:45 It's like buying a pair of shoes,
00:03:47 you buy a pair of shoes and the salesman says,
00:03:49 "Well, they might cut off your toes."
00:03:53 I mean, you still want them?
00:03:54 I mean, they're 10 1/2, you wanted 10 1/2, yep.
00:03:56 Okay, so you want 10 1/2,
00:03:57 they might just slice off your toes.
00:04:00 They're cruel, the shoes.
00:04:01 Like they might just, so, you know,
00:04:03 it's like, no, I just told you 10 1/2,
00:04:04 doesn't matter, don't care.
00:04:06 Might not work.
00:04:09 So today I had to scan.
00:04:10 So printer's on, I know that, right?
00:04:14 Printer goes to sleep.
00:04:15 Printer's on.
00:04:16 I'd like to scan, please.
00:04:18 (computer beeping)
00:04:22 Now, I don't mind a no as much as I mind a slow no.
00:04:27 'Cause a slow no is just a giant waste of fucking time.
00:04:35 So printer, if you're gonna fuck me,
00:04:39 don't date me for six months first.
00:04:43 If you're gonna screw me over,
00:04:46 don't screw me over and waste my time.
00:04:47 So if you're not gonna scan, say,
00:04:49 you bought this thing for scanning?
00:04:51 You put the thing in the scanner,
00:04:52 you went back downstairs, you wanna scan?
00:04:54 I'm sorry, I know it says scanner.
00:04:56 I know there's a scan function on your operating system.
00:04:59 Why would you think that that would allow you to scan?
00:05:01 What, are you insane?
00:05:02 It's a lure, it's a trap.
00:05:04 But here's the thing, it doesn't tell me it can't scan.
00:05:07 What does it do?
00:05:09 It says, I'm working on it.
00:05:11 And I'm like, the fuck you are.
00:05:13 You are not working on it, don't fucking lie to me.
00:05:16 Don't hourglass me, bro.
00:05:17 Don't pretend you're doing something when you're not.
00:05:20 You ever have those shady workers?
00:05:22 You know, like the guy you drop your car off,
00:05:24 he's like, yeah, it should be ready,
00:05:26 be ready sometime after lunch.
00:05:29 And you know, he's got a sandwich in his hand
00:05:31 and a cup of Tim Hortons in the other,
00:05:33 and you just know he's gonna go and play Clash Royale
00:05:35 for an hour or two and then maybe get you.
00:05:37 Could just shady work it, right?
00:05:39 So just like, I'd like to scan.
00:05:40 Well, here you go, here's the scan app.
00:05:42 You've got a scanner, you put the thing in the scanner,
00:05:44 you came back downstairs, me, me, me, me, me, me, me.
00:05:48 Trying to scan, trying to scan.
00:05:49 It's like, you're not trying to scan.
00:05:51 You're not, don't lie to me, don't lie to me.
00:05:54 And then it says, unable to scan.
00:05:56 Shit don't work.
00:06:01 Now, I was a programmer.
00:06:03 Now hit me with a Y if you've ever done any coding,
00:06:05 ever done any error handling.
00:06:07 On error, go to X, X, blah, blah, blah.
00:06:11 Resume, exit, right.
00:06:13 What's the one thing you're supposed to do
00:06:18 when you provide an error message?
00:06:21 It's the one thing you're supposed to do.
00:06:23 What's the one thing, if you've never been a programmer,
00:06:26 what's the one thing, I don't know, you might like to see?
00:06:30 What would you like to see?
00:06:31 Error message?
00:06:36 I don't want an explanation.
00:06:39 (sighs)
00:06:41 What do you want?
00:06:47 A solution, yes.
00:06:52 Here's the problem, here's how to fix it.
00:06:54 And what error message do you get?
00:06:55 Not able to print, error 6,223.4.5.5 green unicorn head.
00:07:02 Unable to print.
00:07:08 Check your drivers, check your operating system,
00:07:12 see if it's updated.
00:07:15 Couldn't do it, bro.
00:07:16 It's not working, man, it's not working, man.
00:07:19 It's not IndyCards, man.
00:07:20 Like Jesus, oh, Jesus, oh, just tell me what to do.
00:07:26 What went wrong?
00:07:28 Printer is busy.
00:07:29 No, printer is not busy.
00:07:32 Nobody else printing in the house.
00:07:34 Printer is busy.
00:07:34 And I'm like, fuck, I know I've gotta go upstairs.
00:07:38 I know, but I can't, I can't.
00:07:41 Going upstairs is like appeasing my mother, I won't do it.
00:07:44 (sighs)
00:07:47 So what do I do?
00:07:50 What do I do?
00:07:50 What do I do 'cause I'm retarded?
00:07:55 I can see, I get drawn into like,
00:07:56 you know how sociopathy,
00:07:57 you get drawn into being a sociopath?
00:07:58 I get drawn into being retarded.
00:08:01 What do I do?
00:08:01 What do I do?
00:08:06 (laughs)
00:08:08 I know I should go upstairs, but I'm not supposed to.
00:08:10 Got a network printer, what do I do?
00:08:12 What do I do?
00:08:13 Try again, yes, of course I try again.
00:08:16 And sometimes that works.
00:08:17 You ever have this?
00:08:18 You try something, it says it's impossible,
00:08:20 and then you try it, it's like, oh, yeah, shit, I'll do that.
00:08:23 Yeah, so I tried it again, tried it a couple of times.
00:08:25 I was doing something else, okay.
00:08:26 Now, got the error message, maybe it's your drivers.
00:08:32 Right, which is driving you up the bend.
00:08:36 So what do I do?
00:08:38 Because I'm an idiot.
00:08:39 I'm like, hey, maybe it's the drivers.
00:08:44 (laughs)
00:08:46 So then I go to get the drivers,
00:08:52 and I get, I install the drivers.
00:08:56 Actually, I install the Fax Program.
00:08:57 There's a special Fax Program.
00:08:59 There's Windows Fax, there's a special Fax Program.
00:09:01 So I install the special Fax Program,
00:09:02 and it says, maybe there's a problem with your drivers.
00:09:05 So then I'm like, okay, I'll go get the drivers.
00:09:08 I'll go get the drivers.
00:09:11 And I install the drivers.
00:09:14 Now, whenever you install the drivers,
00:09:16 you pray to all the unholy gods of high tech
00:09:20 that you will not have to reboot.
00:09:22 Because my entire operating system
00:09:27 is a 32-gig house of cards.
00:09:30 For me to reboot, well, let's just say
00:09:34 it would probably be easier to tear down my house
00:09:37 with my tongue and rebuild it again with my ass
00:09:40 than to reboot my computer.
00:09:41 I have 25 notepads open.
00:09:44 I have 15 different Audacity files,
00:09:47 which I'm currently working on.
00:09:49 I have so much open and waiting and ready and not ready
00:09:53 and that to shut down, I might as well just buy a new computer
00:09:56 and reinstall everything from scratch.
00:09:58 Shutting down my computer is not an option.
00:10:00 So then I install the drivers.
00:10:07 Dumpty dumpty dum.
00:10:09 Hey, what do you want to call your printer?
00:10:12 Just install the drivers.
00:10:13 Hey, where do you want to install them?
00:10:14 Just install the drivers.
00:10:17 And then you know what?
00:10:17 Windows always has this thing in the back
00:10:19 where it's like, it doesn't show you, right?
00:10:22 Because you have this, you know, you have the setting.
00:10:24 And what does the setting say?
00:10:25 The setting says, listen, if anything's going to make
00:10:30 any changes to the operating system, do me a favor.
00:10:33 Do me a favor.
00:10:34 Put out a little message, but don't put it full screen.
00:10:39 Like it's supposed to blank everything else,
00:10:40 go full screen and say, do you want to make changes
00:10:42 to your operating system?
00:10:43 Do you want to make changes to your Windows directory
00:10:44 or whatever it is, right?
00:10:45 So don't do that.
00:10:46 But do it someplace I really can't see it.
00:10:50 So that I have to alt tab around to find the prompt
00:10:55 that says, I'm not changing your drivers
00:10:57 until you click this thing, which you can't see.
00:11:01 Hey, these drivers sure seem to be taking a long time
00:11:03 to install.
00:11:04 Oh, right.
00:11:05 That's right.
00:11:08 It's a hidden communion mind meld
00:11:12 with the x86 architecture that I have to complete
00:11:15 in order to change my drivers.
00:11:16 So then drivers go in.
00:11:21 Start the application.
00:11:25 And it did, to its credit, it did actually find the printer.
00:11:28 You ever have this thing, it's like,
00:11:29 oh, you have a network printer?
00:11:31 No, you don't.
00:11:31 (laughs)
00:11:32 Just kidding.
00:11:33 When we say network printer, we mean it's on the cloud,
00:11:35 which means it's on Aristophanes cloud in ancient Greece
00:11:37 and you can't possibly reach it without a time machine
00:11:40 and a fucking human sacrifice.
00:11:42 So it did to its credit find the printer.
00:11:49 And then it says, oh, sorry, the printer is busy.
00:11:54 Now, if the printer is busy, what do you do?
00:11:56 What do you do if the printer is busy?
00:11:57 You go to the print queue.
00:11:59 A quick question.
00:12:01 Is it easier to try and take down the vampire list stat
00:12:06 with a number two B pencil,
00:12:08 or is it easier to cancel a print job?
00:12:10 Have you ever tried this?
00:12:11 Have you ever, ever tried to cancel a print job?
00:12:16 Yeah, the vampire is way easier, right?
00:12:18 So if say Trump had two things, right?
00:12:21 Take down the entirety of the deep state
00:12:24 or cancel a print job.
00:12:26 What would he, what would he do?
00:12:29 Well, I'd say take down the alphabet agencies.
00:12:31 That's way easier than canceling a print job
00:12:33 'cause canceling a print job,
00:12:35 I know for a simple, basic empirical fact,
00:12:38 that button does nothing.
00:12:40 Cancel print job.
00:12:44 Nope, I'm sorry.
00:12:46 You can't cancel a print job.
00:12:48 That's like trying to recall a watermelon
00:12:50 that you've already thrown off the bridge.
00:12:52 We just put that there so you think you can.
00:12:55 So you think you can.
00:12:56 Oh, I liked the original interview with the vampire,
00:12:59 but it got very silly after that.
00:13:01 Now, one thing I do remember,
00:13:05 back in my days of the Atari 800
00:13:07 and then the Atari 520ST.
00:13:12 Okay, I want you to tell me what this sound is.
00:13:14 (imitates sound)
00:13:18 (imitates sound)
00:13:21 That's right, that is a dot matrix.
00:13:25 Like tiny little ninja pummels, right?
00:13:27 So that shit used to work.
00:13:30 I used to have a program.
00:13:31 I still remember it.
00:13:32 ZOA4 was bold, A4, double lined.
00:13:37 I used to do that for my...
00:13:39 And then I did WordPerfect 5.1 on the old IBM computers
00:13:44 and you had reveal codes,
00:13:45 which was glorious and magical and Sting's work, right?
00:13:48 I still remember seeing the first Snoopy
00:13:51 coming out of a dot matrix printer.
00:13:53 (imitates sound)
00:13:55 So anyway, I can't scan.
00:14:00 And I'm like, you know,
00:14:01 maybe I'll just try scanning it as a photo
00:14:03 rather than a document.
00:14:04 Nope.
00:14:05 So now listen, there's times where I blame myself, right?
00:14:14 The time I blame myself,
00:14:15 even if the printer doesn't say it's out of paper,
00:14:18 hey, if it's out of paper, that's on me, right?
00:14:20 That's absolutely on me.
00:14:22 If I, I think most printers now for environmental reasons,
00:14:28 they default to double-sided printing,
00:14:31 which is useless as tits on a bull for the most part.
00:14:34 So finally, you know, it is important.
00:14:43 It is important in life to accept defeat, would you say?
00:14:45 It's a rational thing to accept defeat when you can't win.
00:14:48 So I needed to, I had to go upstairs.
00:14:53 So I took another computer and tried to connect.
00:14:55 No luck, didn't work.
00:14:56 So I went, I finally went upstairs.
00:14:58 Now, there was a message on the printer.
00:15:03 Now, what did the message,
00:15:07 you know, that's got that little LED screen, LCD screen.
00:15:10 What did the printer tell me?
00:15:13 Network printer, you should be able to put it in the attic.
00:15:16 What did it tell me?
00:15:19 Well, some print job started by a distant ancestor
00:15:26 had potentially exceeded the bounds of the printer.
00:15:29 No, no, it wasn't out of paper.
00:15:30 Out of paper, that's on me.
00:15:31 Although it should tell me it's out of paper.
00:15:33 I'm not in the mood, that's right.
00:15:35 You know, you didn't help me with the dishes
00:15:38 and I'm just feeling kind of stressed.
00:15:41 And I've kind of had, it's not exactly a migraine,
00:15:44 but it's like right here behind the eyes,
00:15:47 it's just been difficult for me.
00:15:49 And I'm just not feeling soft.
00:15:51 And I know you want to offer a massage,
00:15:53 but you know what you actually want, it's just sex.
00:15:55 And I just don't feel like you respect me.
00:15:56 It's a piece of hardware and I'm just not going to give it up.
00:15:59 I am not going to spread my A4
00:16:01 and you not get to load letter.
00:16:07 So, what did the printer tell me?
00:16:12 It said a previous print job was out of bounds,
00:16:17 potentially out of bounds.
00:16:18 Right.
00:16:20 So, quick question.
00:16:25 Quick question, what's the point of a network printer
00:16:32 that gives you the message on the printer,
00:16:34 but not on the client?
00:16:36 I'm just curious what is the point of that?
00:16:38 What is the point of having a network printer
00:16:42 that's wireless, doesn't give you any message on the client,
00:16:46 it only gives you a message on the printer,
00:16:49 on the printer.
00:16:52 It's like having a remote control drone
00:16:56 that you have to work the joysticks on the drone
00:16:58 to make it do anything.
00:16:59 It's like, okay, then it's not a remote control drone,
00:17:02 now is it?
00:17:05 But yours is wireless, but will not connect.
00:17:07 Yeah, because it's actually, it's easier and cheaper
00:17:10 to just get some fucking carrier pigeons to go up,
00:17:12 you feed them a bunch of ink,
00:17:13 they go and shit on the piece of paper near the printer
00:17:16 and that's about as effective as you can get.
00:17:18 It doesn't matter what kind of printer I'm dealing with,
00:17:25 it's exactly the same thing.
00:17:27 Now, what I did was, I said cancel job.
00:17:33 Now, of course, I tried to cancel job.
00:17:35 First of all, it didn't show me that there was a job,
00:17:37 then another application showed me that there was a job,
00:17:39 I tried to cancel it.
00:17:40 Why couldn't I cancel it?
00:17:41 Why couldn't I cancel the job?
00:17:43 Because there was a message up on the printer.
00:17:45 So there's something on the screen of the printer
00:17:49 that's supposed to be remote,
00:17:50 that can't be touched by anything on the client software,
00:17:53 you literally have to go to the printer, cancel the job,
00:17:57 come back and scan.
00:18:01 I literally was looking for a force reboot the printer.
00:18:06 Like, get up there, like Van Helsing,
00:18:13 with a giant railway spike,
00:18:15 drive it through the shiny plexiglass of that printer,
00:18:20 kill it for three days, have it come back to life,
00:18:23 let me print.
00:18:24 I mean, don't you ever wanna just turn these things off
00:18:30 with a pair of pinking shears on the cable?
00:18:33 God, just reboot, start again, forget it,
00:18:37 just start again, reboot, redo.
00:18:38 Nope, can't reboot it remotely, absolutely impossible.
00:18:41 So what I did was I went upstairs and it said,
00:18:47 oh, printing might be slightly out of bounds,
00:18:49 do you want to continue?
00:18:50 Nope, do you wanna cancel the job?
00:18:52 Certainly do.
00:18:53 Ready.
00:18:56 (laughs)
00:18:58 Oh God.
00:19:01 You ever have it where, I don't know,
00:19:09 this is for the young man, right?
00:19:11 You ever have it where it's like,
00:19:14 I really like to have sex with this woman.
00:19:16 Okay, well, she wants to go out for dinner,
00:19:19 yeah, we'll go out for dinner.
00:19:22 Oh, she wants to go out for drinks afterwards too.
00:19:25 Okay, I can do some drinks.
00:19:30 Ooh, late night comedy show?
00:19:32 Yeah, right, late night comedy, okay, well,
00:19:37 you know, I like to laugh,
00:19:38 let's do a late night comedy show.
00:19:40 Come back.
00:19:42 Oh, you wanna, you wanna get coffee?
00:19:45 It's like 1230 in the morning, you wanna,
00:19:47 okay, well, we can do a coffee.
00:19:51 You wanna show me a funny meme?
00:19:52 Okay.
00:19:53 And then by the time it's even potential to have sex,
00:19:58 you're like, no, no, no, I've waited too long
00:20:03 and it's all gone.
00:20:04 I think I've actually just climaxed in my own butt
00:20:08 and that's it, it's all over, forget it, we're all done.
00:20:11 Well, that's what it is like with this printer,
00:20:12 it's like, I don't even wanna scan now.
00:20:14 You made me follow your rules till the end of time,
00:20:18 I don't even wanna scan now.
00:20:20 (sighs)
00:20:22 So yeah, that was the day with my printer,
00:20:31 then it scanned fine.
00:20:32 And then I had to go have a lie down.
00:20:38 Just because things don't work.
00:20:40 And here's the thing too, this is the thing with tech.
00:20:44 Like if it's not gonna work, just tell me.
00:20:49 Just tell me, look, you're gonna have to swallow your pride
00:20:51 and go finger the printer.
00:20:53 Like you're just gonna have to go do it.
00:20:54 You have to go massage the printer,
00:20:56 you have to tell it how pretty and smart it is,
00:20:58 you're gonna have to buy it some dinner,
00:20:59 you're gonna have to give it a back rub,
00:21:01 you're gonna have to give it some multiple orgasm,
00:21:04 AC/DC multivariate electricity juice stimulation,
00:21:07 you're just gonna have to do something with it.
00:21:09 You're gonna have to find its G-spot somewhere
00:21:11 in its innards and then maybe it'll do what you want.
00:21:16 So, just tell me it's not gonna work, that's it.
00:21:21 I mean, how much time do you spend
00:21:25 knowing that things should work and it doesn't work?
00:21:27 Did you bother to ask it about it in childhood?
00:21:32 Right, right, well, you know, I started off as some graffiti
00:21:39 on the side of a really giant and old and beautiful oak tree.
00:21:43 I started off just as graffiti
00:21:44 and it's always bothered me,
00:21:46 my origin story has just been horrible.
00:21:48 I mean, it always bothered me that I started as graffiti
00:21:50 and the carving of JK loves BW.
00:21:52 Or BW loves BJs, I can't remember,
00:21:57 but it was just, I started off as a carving
00:21:59 on a giant beautiful tree, just carved into its flesh
00:22:03 and I just couldn't, anyway.
00:22:05 Need a call and show with the printer, yeah.
00:22:09 Ah, I'm glad Steph Overturn populated
00:22:14 with the print rant anyway.
00:22:15 We are you shirtless.
00:22:19 We're you shirtless doing the printer thing?
00:22:22 All right, I gotta let you find my shirt.
00:22:24 (silence)
00:22:26 Oh, nevermind, go ahead.
00:22:46 Oh.
00:22:53 All right, should we get, should we get civilized?
00:22:56 Hit me with a why if you've traveled a lot.
00:23:00 Hit me with a why if you've traveled a lot.
00:23:04 Sam Vanken, the psychologist, a little bit.
00:23:09 There we go.
00:23:20 So yeah, somebody asked me,
00:23:22 what do you think of people who travel a lot?
00:23:25 Now, ahead of time, just out of curiosity,
00:23:28 what do you think I'm going to think
00:23:29 of people who travel a lot?
00:23:30 Japan would be nice to see.
00:23:35 I think you'd come back from Japan depressed as hell.
00:23:37 Well, it was nice to travel before you had to worry
00:23:44 about pilots dropping dead or non-meritocracy hires
00:23:49 manning the flight paths.
00:23:53 In-laws just came to visit, every flight was delayed.
00:24:03 Yeah, yeah, no, the age of intelligence is past.
00:24:05 Yeah, the age of achievement is past.
00:24:08 Go look back sometimes and see what Pan Am was doing
00:24:11 for economy class in the 1960s and 1970s.
00:24:15 Like I first started flying when I was six years old.
00:24:20 I flew to Africa alone, well, with my brother
00:24:25 when I was six years old and it was fantastic.
00:24:30 I used to be able to go up,
00:24:31 I had a little British Airways log book
00:24:34 and I logged all my flights and I was able to go up
00:24:37 and chat with the pilots and it was just really, really cool.
00:24:40 Really cool.
00:24:45 And you were never scared of traveling to new places.
00:24:50 No, I didn't feel that regarding travel.
00:24:55 And of course I did a lot of business travel
00:24:56 before 9/11, right?
00:24:58 I did a lot of business travel in the 90s
00:24:59 and it was fantastic.
00:25:00 Like I remember being late at a meeting
00:25:02 and showing up 20 minutes for a flight.
00:25:05 I didn't even have a ticket and I got in the flight
00:25:10 no problem, there's no real security and all of that, right?
00:25:14 'Cause there didn't used to be security.
00:25:16 It didn't used to be security.
00:25:19 A friend of mine was saying that they're going to Florida,
00:25:23 everywhere they go in Florida,
00:25:24 there's like, you got to go through a scanner,
00:25:25 like even to go to places like Disney Springs and so on.
00:25:27 It's like, wow.
00:25:29 So yeah, travel used to be really great,
00:25:32 really efficient, really fun and was just wonderful.
00:25:36 So you could carry a gun and smoke on a plane.
00:25:41 Yeah, I think so, right?
00:25:42 Okay, you used to be able to carry guns on planes.
00:25:44 So I want to just make sure I get the question right.
00:25:50 I want to make sure because the question was very evocative.
00:25:53 It's a great word, I don't use it enough, evocative.
00:25:57 ♪ Somewhere over the rainbow ♪
00:26:08 All right, I was there.
00:26:10 I do believe there was a...
00:26:12 No, I can't find it.
00:26:16 Anyway, so yeah, somebody was posting about travel.
00:26:21 Passport bro lifestyle,
00:26:23 people traveling overseas to find a partner.
00:26:26 Yeah, I don't, I'm not a fan of that.
00:26:31 I'm not a fan of that.
00:26:32 I'm not a fan of that.
00:26:35 It seems kind of selfish to me.
00:26:38 (silence)
00:26:41 So work travel doesn't really count.
00:26:47 Now there's people who travel for fun, just travel.
00:26:51 Oh, what do I mean selfish?
00:26:56 Well, I think we have the remnants
00:27:00 of a pretty great culture in the West
00:27:02 and if you go overseas to get a bride
00:27:04 but the different culture,
00:27:05 what are you going to teach your kids?
00:27:06 Where's the continuity and so on?
00:27:08 Biracial kids have significant mental health issues
00:27:10 and all of that.
00:27:12 I mean, they have more mental health issues
00:27:14 than the average for whatever reason we don't know
00:27:16 but it just seems a little bit like
00:27:18 why don't you just find somebody of your own culture?
00:27:20 Not necessarily mean the race
00:27:22 but of your own culture as a whole.
00:27:23 So, and of course, women who travel.
00:27:29 Women who travel, is that a red flag?
00:27:34 If there's a woman who says,
00:27:36 yeah, yeah, I've traveled to 30 countries.
00:27:40 How did she pay for that?
00:27:47 Hmm, now there's a mystery.
00:27:49 There's a mystery.
00:27:52 What's that meme of that woman
00:27:53 with a big handful of hot dogs flying at her face?
00:27:57 Right, so I would view that as a huge red flag
00:28:03 with a woman who's like, I've traveled all over the world,
00:28:06 especially if she's young.
00:28:07 Now, if she comes from money, maybe that's one thing
00:28:10 but women can work online to pay for travel.
00:28:14 Certainly back in my day, that's not how women made,
00:28:17 how did the women make money to travel?
00:28:19 How does a woman make money to travel?
00:28:32 It's expensive traveling, right?
00:28:33 I mean, you can travel low rent.
00:28:35 But yeah, I mean, generally they're dating on the fly,
00:28:38 right, they're dating on the fly.
00:28:39 They're dating on the fly.
00:28:44 So I would view that as a significant red flag.
00:28:49 Let me ask you this, tell me what you think.
00:28:53 I have my own opinions, but I wanna know.
00:28:59 Does travel make people more interesting?
00:29:04 Does travel make people more interesting?
00:29:10 No, they just preflun about their trips.
00:29:25 You get interesting stories, but I don't think so.
00:29:30 So most people travel, not everyone,
00:29:33 but most people travel in order to appear interesting.
00:29:38 Why is everyone hating on travel?
00:29:44 Yeah, I went to Morocco and I remember seeing the sun rise
00:29:52 over the blah, blah, blah, right?
00:29:55 Why you think women who travels a lot is a red flag?
00:29:59 'Cause she's sleeping around.
00:30:01 I mean, I think for a woman, a man who travels a lot,
00:30:03 a man who travels a lot can't get paid
00:30:07 by sleeping around, right, in general, right?
00:30:08 Well, the carpet story was interesting, yeah, well.
00:30:11 But you know, that's one story out of a lot of travel, right?
00:30:14 So you can meet tons of people
00:30:17 and make amazing connections through it,
00:30:18 but travel in and of itself is not interesting.
00:30:21 No, you can't, in general.
00:30:25 So just about everyone I met when I was traveling
00:30:28 was a do-nothing intergalactic space loser.
00:30:31 I didn't do a huge amount of travel
00:30:33 in terms of like just recreational travel.
00:30:36 I remember having a glorious two weeks on my own
00:30:38 in the Dominican Republic reading Jung and Nietzsche.
00:30:41 Oh, it was fantastic, I just loved that.
00:30:43 Sitting on the beach, I played a lot of beach volleyball.
00:30:45 I was just traveling on my own for a variety of reasons,
00:30:47 just sat in a resort and swam and worked out and read,
00:30:51 and oh, it was just fantastic.
00:30:53 Went whale watching.
00:30:55 And I went to Morocco and I did a road trip
00:30:58 with a friend of a friend through Belize,
00:31:01 Mexico, Guatemala, which was fun.
00:31:04 But as far as like meeting people, no.
00:31:10 You don't meet people who are successful.
00:31:12 You generally don't meet people
00:31:15 who are successful when you're traveling.
00:31:17 And traveling has a certain amount of danger in it
00:31:22 in that it conditions you to hyperstimuli.
00:31:27 It conditions you to hyperstimuli.
00:31:30 So most people did not feel
00:31:35 that those who travel were interesting.
00:31:37 I'll just tell you my personal experience.
00:31:42 In my personal experience, if somebody tells me
00:31:45 that they've traveled a lot,
00:31:47 I'm trying to get out of the conversation
00:31:48 as quickly as possible.
00:31:49 I've traveled all over the world.
00:31:53 I'm like, I'm traveling all over the room
00:31:54 to be anywhere but here.
00:31:56 Other paths for women to travel is extreme debt.
00:31:59 Friend is $15,000 in debt over a few trips,
00:32:01 no real way to pay it off, right?
00:32:03 Right.
00:32:05 Somebody says, met the owner of a marina,
00:32:10 got a job as a videographer on a fishing show
00:32:12 and made a bunch of work contacts through traveling.
00:32:14 Okay, yeah, for sure, for sure.
00:32:20 That can happen.
00:32:24 That can happen.
00:32:25 Let me ask you this.
00:32:27 Let me ask you this.
00:32:28 When you talk to someone and they say
00:32:35 they've traveled a lot, do you expect them
00:32:38 to ask any questions about you?
00:32:39 In general.
00:32:42 Just in general.
00:32:45 I've traveled all over the world
00:32:46 and let me tell you this and let me tell you that
00:32:49 and I've gone running with the bulls in Pamplona
00:32:51 and I have gone across the Serengeti
00:32:53 on the back of a tortoise and I have done this
00:32:55 and I have done that, right?
00:32:57 And don't you just feel yourself slowly shimmering
00:32:59 out of existence in their mental space
00:33:01 'cause they're going on this big IMAX multidimensional
00:33:05 time-spanning travelogue in their own head
00:33:07 and they're trying to lure you into their own trips
00:33:09 and visions and memories and they're desperately
00:33:10 trying to make themselves interested
00:33:12 because they went to some place called
00:33:13 I don't give a fuckistan.
00:33:20 Selfish much?
00:33:21 You see, traveling is a way that you never have
00:33:28 to ask anyone about anything to do with them.
00:33:30 Right?
00:33:34 Traveling is a way for other people
00:33:40 to never ask you anything about yourself.
00:33:42 'Cause someone's like, oh yes, well I meant to go
00:33:45 and see all the chariots of Japan and climb
00:33:48 Mount Fujiyama-kaka and then I went over to South Korea
00:33:52 and I did karaoke with the vice, blah blah blah
00:33:55 and then, okay, at the end of it, right,
00:33:57 at the end of it, do they ever ask you anything about you?
00:33:59 No, but they say, well, tell me a little bit about you
00:34:01 and you're like, what are you gonna say?
00:34:05 It's just an elegant way to tell people to shut up.
00:34:11 I'm more interesting than you, shut up.
00:34:13 Oh my God.
00:34:17 I mean, if I'm wrong, if I'm wrong, tell me, right?
00:34:20 I mean, I just, I, oh.
00:34:23 No matter where you go, there you are.
00:34:27 Yeah, even if they ask something,
00:34:28 I don't feel like answering, I have to travel stories.
00:34:31 I mean, look, occasionally travel stories
00:34:33 can be interesting, but generally not.
00:34:35 I mean, travel stories are interesting
00:34:37 to people who were in them.
00:34:38 So to me, travel stories are like one tiny step
00:34:41 above the I was so drunk stories,
00:34:43 which I've never understood.
00:34:47 Never understood.
00:34:48 Hey man, no good story ever started with,
00:34:51 I had a salad, right?
00:34:52 I was so drunk, I, great, yeah, you know,
00:34:57 I guess you could beat yourself around the head
00:34:58 with a two by four and stagger down the stairs.
00:35:02 That's not a very interesting, I was so wasted.
00:35:04 Yeah, it's just, no, it's really sad.
00:35:06 Really sad.
00:35:12 So for women, excessive travel in the 20s
00:35:17 is a sign of a lack of intelligence
00:35:21 for women as a whole.
00:35:24 Oh, so sexist.
00:35:26 What's wrong with being sexy?
00:35:28 You should have seen what they wanted
00:35:29 put in the album cover.
00:35:30 It wasn't a glove, I can assure you.
00:35:31 So why, why is it a mark of less intelligence
00:35:38 if a woman travels a lot in her 20s?
00:35:40 Why is it a mark of less intelligence?
00:35:43 Why is it a mark of less intelligence?
00:35:45 Why is it a mark of less intelligence?
00:35:47 Why is it a mark of less intelligence?
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00:36:39 Why is it a mark of less intelligence?
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00:37:01 Why is it a mark of less intelligence?
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00:37:13 Why is it a mark of less intelligence?
00:37:15 Why is it a mark of less intelligence?
00:37:17 Why is it a mark of less intelligence?
00:37:19 Why is it a mark of less intelligence?
00:37:21 Why is it a mark of less intelligence?
00:37:23 Why is it a mark of less intelligence?
00:37:25 Why is it a mark of less intelligence?
00:37:27 Why is it a mark of less intelligence?
00:37:29 Why is it a mark of less intelligence?
00:37:31 Why is it a mark of less intelligence?
00:37:33 And all of that, right?
00:37:35 But travel as a whole
00:37:39 doesn't make you interesting.
00:37:41 What makes you interesting?
00:37:43 What makes you interesting?
00:37:45 It's a big question.
00:37:47 Why should someone choose you?
00:37:49 Why should someone want to talk to you?
00:37:51 Why should someone care about what you think?
00:37:53 What makes you interesting?
00:37:57 What makes you interesting?
00:37:59 Why should anyone...
00:38:01 Why are you here?
00:38:03 Why are you here?
00:38:05 Why are you talking to me on this Wednesday night?
00:38:07 Why are you here?
00:38:09 Why are we having this conversation?
00:38:11 What makes you interesting?
00:38:13 What's the only thing that makes you interesting?
00:38:15 Thinking.
00:38:21 Thinking is the only thing that makes you interesting.
00:38:23 Do you need to travel to think?
00:38:25 Do you need to travel to think?
00:38:27 Do you need to travel to think?
00:38:29 Right? Do you need to travel to think?
00:38:31 I mean, again, I'm not big
00:38:33 hate on traveling. I guess it's fine.
00:38:35 I mean, when I was in Morocco,
00:38:37 I literally...
00:38:39 My sisters and I have the one wish
00:38:41 before we die, and it may sound strange
00:38:43 as if our minds are deranged.
00:38:45 I did literally sing "Tea in the Sahara"
00:38:47 while sitting on the back of a camel
00:38:49 walking across the Sahara, right?
00:38:51 Tea in the Sahara
00:38:53 with you.
00:38:55 Great song.
00:38:57 So, I was going to do that in theater school.
00:38:59 Tea in the Sahara. I was going to sing that song
00:39:01 and I was going to have a teacup full of sand
00:39:03 and pour it into glasses while I was singing that song.
00:39:05 Just never got around to it for some
00:39:07 reason as a whole.
00:39:09 So, yeah, thinking makes you interesting.
00:39:11 Thinking
00:39:15 makes you interesting.
00:39:17 Travel is a way
00:39:19 to pretend
00:39:21 to be interesting without having to think.
00:39:23 Well, I am interesting
00:39:25 not because I'm thinking, but because
00:39:27 I've paid
00:39:29 for largely prefabricated
00:39:31 experiences.
00:39:33 Lawrence from Just Poor, yeah.
00:39:37 Travel also is
00:39:43 a shallow status thing.
00:39:45 Like, it's a shallow status thing, right?
00:39:47 Especially now, right?
00:39:49 Especially now where you can post all of this stuff
00:39:51 and get all of these "Wow, so cool where you are!"
00:39:53 "Oh, wow!"
00:39:55 God.
00:39:57 I can't stand the people who
00:39:59 want to elevate themselves
00:40:01 without
00:40:03 elevating others.
00:40:05 Ooh. Just step on your face
00:40:07 to gain an extra foot of height.
00:40:09 I just can't stand those people.
00:40:11 I try to be patient. I really do.
00:40:13 I succeed once in a blue moon.
00:40:15 By the way, August 31st, big
00:40:17 blood red moon.
00:40:19 I try to be patient, but man, alive.
00:40:21 The people
00:40:23 who are like,
00:40:25 "I'm going to feel better because you
00:40:27 for worse. I'm going to post cool pictures
00:40:29 of my trip so that you feel like you're stuck at home."
00:40:31 [gagging noise]
00:40:33 Oh, the Disney thing is completely mental.
00:40:35 The Disney
00:40:37 thing, right? America,
00:40:39 there's three classes in America, right?
00:40:41 People who've never been to Disney, people who've gone once or twice,
00:40:43 and people who go every year. That's three classes
00:40:45 in America.
00:40:47 The Disney
00:40:49 thing, I really, really...
00:40:51 Yeah, it's like five, ten grand or whatever.
00:40:53 It's completely mental.
00:40:55 And... Have you been?
00:40:57 Hit me with a "why" if you've been to a Disneyland somewhere.
00:40:59 Is it Paris, California, Florida?
00:41:01 God, it's horrible.
00:41:05 Like, it's literally
00:41:07 a nightmare, in my opinion.
00:41:09 Yeah,
00:41:11 it's horrible.
00:41:13 I mean, yeah, okay, I get all of that,
00:41:15 right? It's a really creepy company as a whole.
00:41:17 Eh,
00:41:19 it just shows you, right? Walt Disney was a committed
00:41:21 anti-communist, and everything you build
00:41:23 at some point, if you've got a government,
00:41:25 will be taken over by totalitarians.
00:41:27 Hello, Soul1.
00:41:31 Nice to meet you.
00:41:33 So, yeah, I mean, who
00:41:35 wouldn't like to just line up in staggering
00:41:37 heat, jammed
00:41:39 together like vertical sardines
00:41:41 in an accordioned
00:41:43 subway car
00:41:45 with kids who are half your height
00:41:47 so you can't talk to them.
00:41:49 You don't want to talk to anyone else in the
00:41:51 lineup. Everyone's
00:41:53 kind of tubby and sweaty.
00:41:55 It's unbelievably hot, and
00:41:57 you're inching forward like a caterpillar
00:41:59 on quaaludes.
00:42:01 And it's like,
00:42:03 "Oh, God!"
00:42:05 Then you
00:42:07 get to a ride,
00:42:09 and you do your ride,
00:42:11 and your ride is three minutes.
00:42:13 Or it generally blows.
00:42:15 It's a small world after all.
00:42:17 [laughs]
00:42:19 And
00:42:21 random fistfights are breaking out
00:42:23 across the quad.
00:42:25 And it's $13
00:42:27 for a slice of pizza. And
00:42:29 there are vending machines
00:42:31 which will tell you a Dasani for only $7.
00:42:33 And
00:42:35 there are no misting stations.
00:42:37 Or maybe there are. I don't know.
00:42:39 Just horrible.
00:42:41 God, go camping.
00:42:43 It's virtually free.
00:42:45 And
00:42:47 your children want a $600
00:42:49 lightsaber that they will in fact break
00:42:51 on the way home.
00:42:53 It's crazy.
00:42:55 It's
00:42:57 incomprehensible to me
00:42:59 why
00:43:01 people would do this to themselves.
00:43:03 [silence]
00:43:05 Yeah, no, it's crazy. Alright.
00:43:13 [sigh]
00:43:15 Much better to take the kids camping. Amen to that.
00:43:17 Or just go on a road trip or something.
00:43:19 Like anything, right?
00:43:21 You have to go during the cold months, low crowds.
00:43:23 Otherwise, yeah, it's miserable.
00:43:25 Or
00:43:27 you can also mortgage a child's kidney
00:43:29 for a FastPass.
00:43:31 I remember
00:43:33 going to Six Flags. A vending machine soda was $3.
00:43:35 I thought that was insane.
00:43:37 I still remember. I did a rant many years ago
00:43:39 about just what a rant.
00:43:41 Just how fantastic
00:43:43 it was
00:43:45 when I used to play
00:43:47 soccer after school
00:43:49 in the summer.
00:43:51 And I would
00:43:53 it was a quarter to get a Coke.
00:43:55 Oh, God, it was so good.
00:43:57 It was so good.
00:43:59 I mean, Coke is masochistic, right?
00:44:01 Because it's good, but it hurts your throat.
00:44:03 It's like somebody giving you chocolate
00:44:05 and a migraine at the same time.
00:44:07 Not a good association.
00:44:09 So it's funny, just a
00:44:11 I don't want to... Rant or a more serious question?
00:44:13 R or S? Rant or a more serious question?
00:44:15 I'm happy to do whatever.
00:44:17 So we used to
00:44:19 we used to play soccer
00:44:21 a couple of times
00:44:23 after school
00:44:25 and particularly in the summers.
00:44:27 Now, in the summer, of course, nobody
00:44:29 uses the football fields
00:44:31 or the soccer fields
00:44:33 out there at the high school.
00:44:35 Now, high school was like five minutes walk from my house.
00:44:37 So we used to play.
00:44:39 And then
00:44:41 one day
00:44:43 this
00:44:45 Karen with a mustache comes over and is like,
00:44:47 "You can't play here."
00:44:49 It's like, "What do you mean we can't play here? We've been playing here for years."
00:44:51 We play and it's great. The kids are out. We do something.
00:44:53 Maybe someone's got some pop and we go over to their house
00:44:55 afterwards or we go get an ice cream or something.
00:44:57 But no, apparently
00:44:59 you
00:45:01 couldn't play anymore.
00:45:03 It was, "You needed a permit."
00:45:05 "You needed
00:45:07 a permit."
00:45:09 It's like, "Well,
00:45:11 what do you mean we need a permit?"
00:45:13 "Well, if you want to play here,
00:45:15 you need a permit."
00:45:17 And one guy
00:45:19 kind of like, kind of a libertarian, was like,
00:45:21 "No, we don't need a permit. You want us
00:45:23 to have a permit. We don't need a permit
00:45:25 because we've been doing this forever. Don't get smart
00:45:27 with me, kid. You need a permit."
00:45:29 "Okay, well,
00:45:31 how do we go about getting a permit?"
00:45:33 "Well, you
00:45:35 got to go down to this,
00:45:37 you know, two bus rides away. You go
00:45:39 and you sign up and then you can
00:45:41 provisionally book this
00:45:43 space for playing soccer."
00:45:45 And it's like, "Well, what do you mean
00:45:47 provisionally reserve this space?
00:45:49 Like if we go, and how much is the permit?" "Oh, the permit
00:45:51 is $10." Now, $10 back
00:45:53 then would be like $100 now.
00:45:55 You ever do this?
00:45:57 Where you've got, you know,
00:45:59 10 kids or 20 kids.
00:46:01 I think we played. It was about five a side.
00:46:03 So when you were ahead and you wanted
00:46:07 some--this is so ridiculous to remember
00:46:09 these jokes--but
00:46:11 when you were ahead and you wanted someone to pass
00:46:13 the ball forward, you'd say, "Up, up!"
00:46:15 And there was a guy named Charles I played
00:46:17 with whose nickname was
00:46:19 "Chuck." So of course, when I was ahead
00:46:21 and I wanted to pass him, "Up, Chuck! Up, Chuck!"
00:46:23 Anyway.
00:46:25 So, yeah, so can you imagine?
00:46:27 We're all pretty broke kids. "No, no, no, everyone
00:46:29 just come and bring $10
00:46:31 and we'll play." It's like, "I don't have $10."
00:46:33 This is back when I was making
00:46:35 about $2.45 an hour
00:46:37 working in a convenience store.
00:46:39 So I would have to work four hours
00:46:41 to play a couple of hours
00:46:43 of soccer.
00:46:45 And that's if everyone brought it. So who's going to
00:46:47 lay out $100 in the hopes that a bunch of broke-ass
00:46:49 kids are each going to bring $10 next time they want to come
00:46:51 and play? And it's once, right? Once.
00:46:53 [sigh]
00:46:57 Crazy.
00:46:59 And so
00:47:01 what happened?
00:47:03 We couldn't play.
00:47:05 We couldn't play.
00:47:07 It's really tough
00:47:09 to know where childhood obesity comes from.
00:47:11 But I do remember--this is another story I thought of
00:47:13 just recently--I went to go and see Tom
00:47:15 Cochran and Red Ryder at Ontario
00:47:17 Place when I was in my mid-teens.
00:47:19 He's got some great
00:47:21 songs. He's got a great solo album,
00:47:23 "Mad, Mad World," but back then
00:47:25 "Boy Inside the Man" is a great song.
00:47:27 Great song. Who owned
00:47:29 the land? Well, it was owned by the state because it was
00:47:31 school property.
00:47:33 So then we
00:47:35 would go different places to play.
00:47:37 And it was just a game of whack-a-mole, hide-and-go-seek.
00:47:39 And maybe
00:47:41 sometimes we'd start playing early in the morning,
00:47:43 we'd start playing late at night, we'd go to a different
00:47:45 location, but it was tough to arrange
00:47:47 all of that stuff before social media.
00:47:49 And sometimes we'd get to play
00:47:51 and sometimes we wouldn't.
00:47:53 And so it was just a war of attrition.
00:47:55 We just ended up not playing.
00:47:57 We just ended up not playing. Anyway, so I was
00:47:59 watching Tom Cochran and Red Ryder
00:48:01 and he was putting on a good show.
00:48:03 Guy's got remarkable hair, no question of that.
00:48:05 And a great voice and all. Good musician.
00:48:07 Although he did "Mad, Mad World" and then that was about it, right?
00:48:10 "I should hear my darling. There's nothing
00:48:12 you can say. The man in the moon won't fall on you.
00:48:14 He don't live there anyway."
00:48:16 But we were all
00:48:18 standing on our chairs, boogieing along to
00:48:20 Tom Cochran and Red Ryder, and the security
00:48:22 guard was like, "You can't stand there!" And we all just
00:48:24 stood there, because it was one of these things.
00:48:26 Everybody just was aware, "Well,
00:48:28 they can't drag us all out." So we all
00:48:30 just stood, and a few of us shook
00:48:32 our butts at the security guard. And it was like, you know,
00:48:34 power in numbers, right? Power in numbers.
00:48:36 Power in numbers. Do you like Thomas
00:48:38 Dalby? Dably.
00:48:40 She blinded me with science.
00:48:42 I actually had a girlfriend who was so into
00:48:44 Thomas Dalby that I know the song
00:48:46 "My heart is like a sieve.
00:48:48 Sometimes it's easy
00:48:50 to forget all
00:48:52 the bad things you did to me."
00:48:54 Because "Aliens" ate
00:48:56 my Buick. I actually know some obscure
00:48:58 Thomas Dalby albums. Yeah, I thought he was pretty good. Not as good
00:49:00 as Hojo, Howard Jones. Great artist.
00:49:02 "Humans Live." Fantastic album. The album
00:49:04 that came after that.
00:49:06 He was fantastic.
00:49:08 And then, again, he just did
00:49:10 nothing in particular, but Hojo was great.
00:49:12 Howard Jones.
00:49:14 He had a good one called "The Flat Earth."
00:49:16 Yeah, yeah. All right.
00:49:18 So, any
00:49:20 thoughts on Steve Irwin, animal rescuer
00:49:22 from the '90s?
00:49:24 I'm not sure what there is to think of Steve
00:49:26 Irwin. Very charismatic guy. Very outgoing.
00:49:28 Seemed to be a good family man.
00:49:30 Died from a stingray
00:49:32 jolt to the chest, didn't he?
00:49:34 Yeah, I mean,
00:49:36 just in general,
00:49:38 as a
00:49:40 father, maybe
00:49:42 don't handle deadly animals when
00:49:44 you've got kids. You know, just a general
00:49:46 thought. It seemed a bit compulsive towards the end there.
00:49:48 Like, just try not to do
00:49:50 risky, stupid shit when you've got kids.
00:49:52 I mean, I guess his kid's
00:49:54 now following, his son's now following in his footsteps.
00:49:56 There's kind of an amusing picture
00:49:58 on the internet of Steve Irwin doing
00:50:00 some show, and then his son doing the same
00:50:02 show in the same location and all of that.
00:50:04 So...
00:50:06 Basically, zero risk with stingrays. Freak accident.
00:50:10 Really,
00:50:12 zero risk with stingrays.
00:50:14 Literally the only good role model we had.
00:50:18 Again, very positive guy
00:50:20 and kind of a fearless
00:50:22 guy. I'm not sure that
00:50:24 that lack of fear came from the healthiest place in the
00:50:26 known universe. It's kind of like that Bear Grylls thing.
00:50:28 "I'm going to show very little fear."
00:50:30 Well, I'm not sure that's a very good sign of mental
00:50:32 health, but it's literally
00:50:34 called "Stingray!" Yes.
00:50:36 Are you stingray?
00:50:38 Are you Barbie-ray?
00:50:40 Alright.
00:50:46 So I got the question about weight.
00:50:48 Yeah, not death ray.
00:50:52 It's true, not death ray. Why did they
00:50:54 paint all the houses' roofs blue
00:50:56 in Hawaii?
00:50:58 Well, we catch them, we curse them
00:51:00 in Steve's name. Is that right?
00:51:02 Is that right?
00:51:04 Yeah, that Maui stuff is amazing.
00:51:06 Just amazing.
00:51:08 Boy, I would have known the truth about Maui
00:51:10 some years ago.
00:51:12 That is a
00:51:14 shocking...
00:51:16 I mean, I'm cynical about
00:51:18 the media, obviously, right?
00:51:20 But I'm even a little bit like,
00:51:22 "Okay, so they sent the kids home and told
00:51:24 the parents that the place had been cleared. They actually prevented
00:51:26 one mother from going to her own home to get her own
00:51:28 kids, saying that the place had been perfectly cleared out.
00:51:30 She came home, she found her kid
00:51:32 burned to death, clutching a dog
00:51:34 who also had been burned to death."
00:51:36 Like,
00:51:38 nobody saw that. I'm old enough to remember
00:51:40 when Tom...
00:51:42 Oh, sorry, when Ted Cruz was raked over the coals
00:51:44 for going on vacation during some emergency,
00:51:46 and
00:51:48 George Bush over
00:51:50 New Orleans,
00:51:52 right, was raked for just flying around.
00:51:56 But yet...
00:51:58 And they're not saying how many...
00:52:00 They know exactly, of course, how many kids are burned up,
00:52:02 but...
00:52:04 Well, it's like Uvalde, right? I mean, they literally
00:52:06 will prevent you from... They'll send your own kids
00:52:08 home, not tell the parents, and then tell the parents
00:52:10 the kids have been evacuated when the kids haven't been.
00:52:12 Well, as I say,
00:52:14 the age of competence is over.
00:52:16 All we have is the momentum left from prior
00:52:18 competence. Yeah, Biden was making jokes.
00:52:20 He fell asleep. Yeah, it's kind of hot
00:52:22 here, and I remember when I had a kitchen fire, it's like,
00:52:24 "Dude, what do you even say?"
00:52:26 What do you even say?
00:52:28 Yep. It's a mysterious
00:52:32 fire, so...
00:52:34 All right. So, yeah,
00:52:36 I've got questions.
00:52:38 Yeah, now the government is looking to nationalize
00:52:40 all of the burned-up property, and
00:52:42 yeah.
00:52:44 Just appalling. I mean, nobody's
00:52:46 going to change any votes, though, right? Yeah,
00:52:48 Maui is like way... I mean,
00:52:50 Hawaii as a whole is way Democrat, isn't it?
00:52:52 Yeah.
00:52:54 I'm no longer interested
00:52:56 in throwing myself between people
00:52:58 and the
00:53:00 results of their own choices.
00:53:02 I mean, that's when you realize people are really addicted.
00:53:04 Like, you no longer want to
00:53:06 throw yourself. Like, you've got some addict
00:53:08 who's caught in danger by going out and
00:53:10 doing terrible things to get
00:53:12 his drugs. It's like, I'm no longer
00:53:14 in a situation where I'm interested
00:53:16 or even have any motivation to
00:53:18 put myself between people and their own bad
00:53:20 decisions.
00:53:22 I mean, I...
00:53:24 I mean, this is what... this is what...
00:53:26 This is what the ideology as a
00:53:28 whole is after, right?
00:53:30 I mean, that the
00:53:32 guy who was in charge of the water supply believes that
00:53:34 water is sacred, has to be worshipped, and didn't want
00:53:36 to release it, I think, for partly religious and ideological
00:53:38 reasons, and it's like, well,
00:53:40 you...
00:53:42 I guess you got to save
00:53:44 the water, didn't you, right? And
00:53:46 people won't...
00:53:48 I mean,
00:53:50 they make the connections, they don't make the connections.
00:53:52 I don't really know what to say
00:53:54 about it.
00:53:56 Thank you,
00:53:58 Bumdalog. Thank you for your work on Peaceful Parenting.
00:54:00 I'm just a grateful dad. Thanks for what
00:54:02 you do.
00:54:04 Are you suggesting the government
00:54:06 burned the kids alive? I find that too much to believe.
00:54:08 No, I'm not suggesting that at all.
00:54:10 I'm not suggesting
00:54:12 that at all.
00:54:14 Incompetence results in disaster.
00:54:16 It's one of the very predictable things about
00:54:18 incompetence.
00:54:20 All right.
00:54:26 If you have tips, let me know. By the way, let me tell you guys.
00:54:32 First of all,
00:54:34 of course, the magnificent Jared has been doing a fantastic
00:54:36 job on the research. We are
00:54:38 barreling in with all of the details
00:54:40 about what needs to be
00:54:42 verified,
00:54:44 and is being verified in the
00:54:46 Peaceful Parenting book. So there won't be people who
00:54:48 can say, "Well, where did you get that data from?"
00:54:50 Because it'd be like, "We got it from here."
00:54:52 All right. So give me a guess.
00:54:54 Give me a guess. I've been working very hard on this book.
00:54:56 I did a whole bunch of review yesterday.
00:54:58 I have been writing, and thanks to everyone
00:55:04 for giving me these sort of mealy-mouthed parental excuses.
00:55:06 I've been working on that.
00:55:08 Tell me how many words you think
00:55:12 we got.
00:55:14 How many words?
00:55:16 How many
00:55:18 pages?
00:55:20 What do you think we got
00:55:22 going on here?
00:55:24 When I anticipate
00:55:28 its release? I'm not sure.
00:55:30 There's a piece I have not put in yet.
00:55:34 We have a little
00:55:38 over 140,000 words.
00:55:40 And 385 pages.
00:55:42 Of course, some of that is footnotes and so on,
00:55:46 but yeah.
00:55:48 So it is coming along.
00:55:50 It is coming along.
00:55:52 It's coming along!
00:55:54 Do you have a section on daycare? Yes, we do.
00:56:00 Did you guys get enough citations for the
00:56:02 ACE experiences? Yes, we did.
00:56:04 And in fact, the ACE stuff,
00:56:06 since I last did it like 12 years ago,
00:56:08 or 13 years ago,
00:56:10 the ACE stuff has been updated.
00:56:12 And so there's even more and better
00:56:14 data.
00:56:16 So the book is really coming along.
00:56:18 I just have to defang it a little because
00:56:20 it's really ferocious and it's probably
00:56:22 a little bit too ferocious for public consumption
00:56:24 right now.
00:56:26 I want to release
00:56:28 a police dog,
00:56:30 not a pitbull, I suppose.
00:56:32 How long is the average novel?
00:56:36 Almost is not an average novel.
00:56:38 Almost is three novels. AlmostNovel.com.
00:56:40 Almost is 370,000 words.
00:56:44 A short novel
00:56:46 is 80,000 words.
00:56:48 Most novels are 120,000-140,000 words.
00:56:50 Almost is a giant,
00:56:54 giant beast.
00:56:56 That was a year of my life, almost full time.
00:56:58 Can we get a sneak peek for subscribers of the pitbull version?
00:57:02 You could release an
00:57:04 uncensored book version for supporters only.
00:57:06 Oh yeah, because that's not going to get leaked anywhere.
00:57:08 Right.
00:57:12 Almost is not too long, but amazing the whole way through.
00:57:14 Well, I think so. I think it's
00:57:16 one of the best books ever put on
00:57:18 paper.
00:57:20 Are you planning to sell
00:57:24 signed copies of the book? No.
00:57:26 Now, signed copies are too much of a hassle.
00:57:28 Anything which I have to touch is much less
00:57:30 valuable if it can't be reproduced.
00:57:32 So if you order a signed copy, what do I have to sign it?
00:57:34 I've got to mail it off?
00:57:36 Yeah.
00:57:38 The almost novel is far too compelling to feel long.
00:57:40 Yeah, I think so.
00:57:42 I think it was one of my best audio book performances.
00:57:44 Yes, so it's coming along. I'm not sure.
00:57:52 Hopefully by Christmas.
00:57:54 Hopefully before Christmas, the book will be...
00:57:56 There will be a version
00:57:58 out for people to read before that.
00:58:00 Why would it be bad
00:58:02 if the uncensored version leaked?
00:58:04 Would it put you in danger? Well, of course it would.
00:58:06 Yeah, of course it would.
00:58:08 Some of your best written characters
00:58:10 in almost, in my opinion. Yes.
00:58:12 Thank you.
00:58:14 This is a spoiler,
00:58:18 but I wanted to ask you, why did Lydia
00:58:20 leave Lawrence at the end of Just Poor?
00:58:22 I cannot figure it out.
00:58:24 Hit me with a "why" if you've read Just Poor.
00:58:26 [POP]
00:58:28 Alright, so I'll just do
00:58:34 a minute or two on this.
00:58:36 One of my favorite books.
00:58:38 So...
00:58:40 Lydia
00:58:44 is a really interesting character for me
00:58:46 because
00:58:48 she's incredibly attractive, but
00:58:50 also incredibly abstract.
00:58:52 She works in the realm of art.
00:58:54 She works in the realm of ideas.
00:58:56 She doesn't work in the realm of flesh.
00:58:58 And she's also
00:59:00 a real daddy's girl, and
00:59:02 quite vain. And she has good reason
00:59:04 to be vain. She's got moral courage.
00:59:06 She's very artistically brilliant, and a very good
00:59:08 debater, and so on.
00:59:10 So...
00:59:12 But there's a lot of vanity in that.
00:59:14 There's a lot of vanity in being that special.
00:59:16 So when Lawrence was high status,
00:59:18 but false,
00:59:20 she was really attracted to him.
00:59:22 When
00:59:24 Lawrence becomes low status, but true,
00:59:26 she's too inhabited
00:59:28 by the false self to make that journey with him.
00:59:30 She's too concerned
00:59:32 with what other people think. She's too concerned with her
00:59:34 own status. So...
00:59:36 Have you... Let me hear...
00:59:38 Have you ever had a fall from grace?
00:59:40 Have you ever had, like, you're
00:59:42 up here, and just BOOM!
00:59:44 Over time, could be quick, could be...
00:59:46 I mean, I certainly have. Have you ever had a fall from grace?
00:59:48 You think you're all that,
00:59:50 and a slice of cheese, and you think
00:59:52 you're all of that, like, more than a woman...
00:59:54 What is more than a woman? A woman in a six-pack.
00:59:56 You're all that, and a side dish of
00:59:58 baked Alaska, and then BOOM!
01:00:00 Slow or fast, you
01:00:02 tumble down. You've had a fall from grace, right?
01:00:04 Bitcoin prices, yeah.
01:00:06 Thank you for the tip.
01:00:08 I appreciate that. You've had a fall...
01:00:10 I've had a fall from grace.
01:00:12 I mean, I was doing...
01:00:14 Gosh, what was it?
01:00:18 10 to 20 million views
01:00:20 and downloads a month?
01:00:22 That might be, right?
01:00:24 So, I've had a fall from grace
01:00:26 in more than one situation. So, you're up,
01:00:28 you're down, right? We're in, we're out of the money.
01:00:30 Had a fall from grace, now going
01:00:32 back up again. Alright. Now, let me
01:00:34 ask you this.
01:00:36 Was the
01:00:38 fall from grace
01:00:40 G or B for you?
01:00:42 Was the fall from grace G or B
01:00:44 for you? In hindsight.
01:00:46 Good!
01:00:48 Yes!
01:00:50 Good.
01:00:52 Good, good, good.
01:00:54 Right.
01:00:56 How did people
01:01:00 treat you
01:01:02 when you had your fall from grace?
01:01:04 Big question, right?
01:01:08 How did people react? So, minus
01:01:10 10, they crowed on you and they cheered
01:01:12 your fall from grace. Plus 10, they were sympathetic
01:01:14 and helpful. Minus 10
01:01:16 to plus 10, how did people treat your
01:01:18 fall from grace?
01:01:20 Minus 10, minus
01:01:22 4, minus 5,
01:01:24 minus 10, minus 7, minus 5,
01:01:26 minus 2, plus 10, great friends,
01:01:28 fantastic, minus 5,
01:01:30 right.
01:01:32 Zero.
01:01:36 That is very neutral of you.
01:01:38 Minus 2, right.
01:01:40 So, for the vast majority of you, other
01:01:42 people, to one degree or another,
01:01:44 were happy about your fall from grace, right.
01:01:46 They celebrated your
01:01:48 fall from grace, right.
01:01:50 Was that good
01:01:56 information for you to get?
01:01:58 Right.
01:02:04 A fall from
01:02:08 grace lifts the
01:02:10 curtain on the souls of
01:02:12 those around you.
01:02:14 And you see them for
01:02:16 exactly who they are.
01:02:18 In the same way
01:02:22 that
01:02:24 COVID lifted
01:02:26 the curtain on the hearts and minds
01:02:28 of those around you, revealing to you
01:02:30 and me exactly
01:02:32 who they are.
01:02:38 A fall from grace
01:02:40 is a rise in
01:02:42 wisdom.
01:02:44 Now, in Just
01:02:46 Poor, who
01:02:48 were the two,
01:02:50 who were the three main female characters in Just
01:02:52 Poor? Mary,
01:02:54 Lydia, and Kay.
01:02:58 Mary
01:03:04 starts at the bottom,
01:03:06 gets to the top,
01:03:08 self-immolates.
01:03:10 Kay starts at the bottom,
01:03:14 gets to the middle, and gets what she wants.
01:03:16 Lydia starts at the top,
01:03:20 is tempted by the middle,
01:03:22 flees the depth.
01:03:24 She doesn't want to confront her own vanity.
01:03:26 I found the character of Mary
01:03:28 utterly terrifying. Oh, she's completely
01:03:30 terrifying. She is
01:03:32 completely-- Mary is like
01:03:34 a Barbus,
01:03:36 Barbus Satan, Lady
01:03:38 Barbara. Mary is completely terrifying.
01:03:40 That level
01:03:42 of ferocity, that level of willpower,
01:03:44 that coldness
01:03:46 towards
01:03:48 her own humanity
01:03:50 is terrifying.
01:03:52 She is a supervillain, yeah, she is, and
01:03:54 a complete genius, of course.
01:03:56 Yeah, Mary, Mary's terrifying.
01:03:58 But even Mary is courting her own survival.
01:04:00 She wants to survive in a way-- I don't know
01:04:02 if you know the time when she decides to
01:04:04 try and
01:04:06 destroy society and takes down
01:04:08 herself. I don't know if you know when
01:04:10 that moment is, but it's the moment when
01:04:12 she has finally all the money that she wants,
01:04:14 and she goes to try and become feminine, make herself
01:04:16 pretty, buy a dress, and she can't stand to have
01:04:18 anyone touch her, and she can't stand to look
01:04:20 pretty, she can't stand to have a dress, and she realizes
01:04:22 there's no future for her.
01:04:24 I was yelling
01:04:26 at my phone at Lawrence's decisions.
01:04:28 Right.
01:04:30 Yeah, so with Lawrence,
01:04:32 the book is generally about stripping
01:04:34 people of the unearned,
01:04:36 stripping people of the unearned to get to their bare
01:04:38 core, naked self. It's like my King Lear
01:04:40 in a way. King Lear
01:04:42 has the kingship and the
01:04:44 surrender and obsequence of his kids
01:04:46 and so on, and
01:04:48 it's all unearned. He just happened to be born into that position.
01:04:50 So, just poor,
01:04:52 just poor. Poverty is justice.
01:04:54 Poverty is justice.
01:04:56 Yeah, Lawrence needed to lose everything to find
01:04:58 himself and get rid of the leeches, his own vanity
01:05:00 being the primary leech. But of course,
01:05:02 the book is very much about fatherlessness.
01:05:04 Right.
01:05:06 Or an absence of dual parenting.
01:05:08 Right.
01:05:10 So we've got Lady Barbara
01:05:12 who's trying to raise two children without
01:05:14 a husband, so she becomes too masculine
01:05:16 and too aggressive.
01:05:18 And we've got
01:05:20 Lord Serbs who's trying to raise Lydia
01:05:22 without a mother,
01:05:24 and he has to become too feminine and therefore
01:05:26 vain.
01:05:28 What was your favourite scene to write?
01:05:30 My favourite scene to write?
01:05:36 That book was
01:05:40 a wild journey for me,
01:05:42 in terms of writing.
01:05:44 I will read you
01:05:46 a little section from
01:05:48 what I found
01:05:50 the
01:05:52 coolest part to write, for me.
01:05:54 [pause]
01:05:56 Not at Bob.
01:06:00 Not at Bob.
01:06:02 Not at Bob.
01:06:04 Let's see here.
01:06:12 I like the earthiness
01:06:20 of the country characters.
01:06:22 It was really, really great
01:06:24 to write earthy characters,
01:06:26 because, you know, I write a lot of pretty intellectual
01:06:28 characters, and that was great.
01:06:30 [pause]
01:06:32 So the character, this is a little bit of a flash-forward.
01:06:40 So the character Mary is
01:06:42 incredibly poor, incredibly brilliant,
01:06:44 gets cast out of her community, comes back,
01:06:46 and gets to the top
01:06:48 of her community, and then
01:06:50 plans a feast
01:06:52 in the mansion she has inherited.
01:06:54 So this is chapter 65,
01:06:58 The Last Feast.
01:07:00 "Mary had been as intimately involved
01:07:02 with food as only someone
01:07:04 who was nearly starved
01:07:06 can be.
01:07:08 Countless times during her wanderings,
01:07:10 she had conjured such fantasy feasts
01:07:12 as she was now able to provide."
01:07:14 This takes place in the late
01:07:16 18th century.
01:07:18 "Gathering
01:07:20 her servants together, she wound them
01:07:22 into a fervor of excitement, planning
01:07:24 what she called the first and last
01:07:26 supper.
01:07:28 They sat in the servants' quarters and had
01:07:30 uproarious fights about what should be
01:07:32 served, how it should be prepared,
01:07:34 and the order in which it should be
01:07:36 presented.
01:07:38 Their initial fear of Mary was
01:07:40 banished to lurk in the dark wine cellars
01:07:42 of the mansion, as they laughed around the
01:07:44 large, scarred, oaken table,
01:07:46 conjuring fantastic,
01:07:48 improbable dishes such as
01:07:50 duck à la goose,
01:07:52 crinoline pudding inside-out cake,
01:07:54 and the enigmatic
01:07:56 yet popular banana surprise,
01:07:58 which was widely regarded as best served
01:08:00 with two crab apples at the root.
01:08:02 A real banana was produced,
01:08:04 and an old washerwoman's
01:08:06 demonstration of the best way to eat it made them laugh
01:08:08 so hard
01:08:10 they thought their eyes would explode."
01:08:12 Finally, they narrowed the list down to foods
01:08:14 which could be both
01:08:16 actually prepared and pleasantly consumed,
01:08:18 then took the list into town
01:08:20 to get the right ingredients.
01:08:22 Since Mary was planning on inviting her
01:08:24 newly-released paupers as well as the
01:08:26 loom factory workers, she also
01:08:28 had to eliminate several dishes she
01:08:30 considered too rich for their stomachs.
01:08:32 The provisions were brought,
01:08:34 and Mary was given a
01:08:36 list of the ingredients,
01:08:38 and she was told to choose
01:08:40 the right ingredients.
01:08:42 The provisions were brought,
01:08:44 the town invited,
01:08:46 and there was great anticipation regarding the event.
01:08:48 When, however, it was found
01:08:50 that the new poor were going to be there,
01:08:52 enthusiasm in some quarters
01:08:54 vanished.
01:08:56 This had been a prosperous village for some years now,
01:08:58 and the villagers tended to associate poverty
01:09:00 with bad morals, forgetting their own
01:09:02 initial resistance to Lord Lawrence's reforms.
01:09:04 Of course,
01:09:06 Christian charity warred with a distaste
01:09:08 for idle vagabondage,
01:09:10 but in general the sentiment could be
01:09:12 vaguely stirred by fallen
01:09:14 women with children or old men
01:09:16 with absent limbs or eyes, but
01:09:18 able-bodied and
01:09:20 shifty men did not find the gardens of human
01:09:22 sympathy open for their
01:09:24 wanderings.
01:09:26 Anyway, so I really like that beginning
01:09:28 of how they're planning the feast, and of course the
01:09:30 the whole book starts with
01:09:33 "The table was prepared for more than a feast."
01:09:35 The table was prepared for more than a feast.
01:09:37 It was a humiliation as well.
01:09:39 "A Kay Swimming in the Pond,"
01:09:41 yes, that was very nice.
01:09:43 "Something Innocent and Tranquil and Even Beautiful,"
01:09:45 "Breath of Innocence in All the Turmoil,"
01:09:47 yes, yes.
01:09:50 So yeah, justpoornovel.com,
01:09:52 you should absolutely check it out.
01:09:54 It's a great book.
01:09:56 And free, and free.
01:09:58 Alright,
01:10:00 there was another, was there another
01:10:02 question that I missed?
01:10:04 Oh, and the description of
01:10:06 Mary's wanderings
01:10:08 after she's expelled from
01:10:10 Farmer Jigger's house,
01:10:12 gave me goosebumps to write, and then
01:10:14 20 years later to read in the audiobook.
01:10:16 Just absolutely gave me goosebumps for that.
01:10:18 So yeah,
01:10:20 "Fall from Grace" is a good thing.
01:10:22 We don't want it,
01:10:24 it's good for us.
01:10:26 We don't want it,
01:10:28 but it's good for us.
01:10:30 Alright, "Hippy with a Y,"
01:10:32 "If you struggle with any weight issues,"
01:10:34 "No," says Joe.
01:10:36 Yes, yes, yes.
01:10:38 Yes, I a little bit,
01:10:42 I mean, I a little bit for sure.
01:10:44 I'm down to 192,
01:10:46 I could get to 182.
01:10:48 I could get to 182.
01:10:50 Alright, yeah, on and off.
01:10:52 You're still breastfeeding, and I think that contributes.
01:10:54 There was a great show from many years ago
01:10:56 called "Desperate Housewives,"
01:10:58 where a woman kept breastfeeding her son
01:11:00 even though her son was like 5'4" and she was pregnant.
01:11:02 She kept breastfeeding her son even though her son was like 5'6" or 7'0"
01:11:04 because it kept her weight off, right?
01:11:06 So, this is a young, well, this is a middle-aged man,
01:11:12 writes, "Hi Steph, I wrote a question on Sunday
01:11:14 about diet and weight loss and being in a trance.
01:11:16 You mentioned dissociation with food, and I asked,
01:11:18 'Who am I serving?'
01:11:20 I did some research over the past few days.
01:11:22 Can you please elaborate or guide me in the proper direction
01:11:24 where I can do more research?
01:11:26 By the way, I'm 45, single, have no kids,
01:11:28 and need to lose over 50 to 60 pounds."
01:11:30 50 to 60 pounds.
01:11:32 Okay, hit me with the number, poundage,
01:11:34 sorry for the kilogram people.
01:11:36 Hit me with the poundage you'd like to lose.
01:11:38 I could lose 10.
01:11:40 Hit me with the poundage you'd like to lose.
01:11:42 We got a 15, we got a 75, we got a 10.
01:11:44 We got a 10, a 30,
01:11:46 and a 10, 15,
01:11:48 we got a 50, we got a 10, 15,
01:11:50 we got a 30, we got a 50,
01:11:52 56, perhaps 30 for me, plus 10,
01:11:54 you want to gain 10 pounds,
01:11:56 20, 15, I'm going to get 35,
01:11:58 so,
01:12:00 right.
01:12:02 He ain't heavy,
01:12:04 he's my brother.
01:12:06 Right.
01:12:10 Minus 5.
01:12:14 Did you see, there was a picture,
01:12:16 I think this last week,
01:12:18 of Keanu Reeves,
01:12:20 who's 60,
01:12:22 and he looks, I don't know,
01:12:24 5 or 10 pounds overweight,
01:12:26 and people were like, he's flabby,
01:12:28 like right after Lizzo's nude pictures,
01:12:30 they're stunningly beautiful.
01:12:32 Keanu Reeves being 5 or 10 pounds overweight
01:12:34 at 60 is flabby.
01:12:36 Ha!
01:12:38 Just horrendous. Oh, oh,
01:12:40 the hypocrisy is just wild.
01:12:42 My mom wants to lose 30.
01:12:44 Alright.
01:12:48 So,
01:12:54 dissociation with food masks, who am I serving?
01:12:56 You know what it is when you break the sound barrier, right?
01:13:02 Your airplane goes faster than the speed of sound,
01:13:08 and you actually have to build the airplane to handle that stress, right?
01:13:10 You go past the speed of sound,
01:13:12 it's Mach 1,
01:13:14 it's up to Mach 10, right?
01:13:16 So you have to
01:13:18 build
01:13:20 the airplane to handle
01:13:22 the stress of going past
01:13:24 the sound barrier.
01:13:26 I remember as a little kid,
01:13:30 seeing a football being kicked, I don't know,
01:13:32 like half a mile away, and wondering why the sound didn't happen
01:13:34 when I could see it,
01:13:36 because I didn't like, light is
01:13:38 186,000 miles a second, and what,
01:13:40 sound is like 600 miles an hour,
01:13:42 or something like that.
01:13:44 So breaking the sound barrier, right?
01:13:50 Okay, let me ask you this.
01:13:52 Is it easy
01:13:58 to do better than your parents?
01:14:00 Is it easy
01:14:06 to do better than your parents?
01:14:08 We got a
01:14:14 yes, Paula, yes, yes,
01:14:16 yes, no, yes, no,
01:14:18 simple but difficult, no.
01:14:20 Baby boomers had it the easiest, right?
01:14:22 And I'm sorry,
01:14:28 my question was very inexpertly
01:14:30 phrased,
01:14:32 so I apologize for that.
01:14:34 I mean, if your parents,
01:14:36 like it wasn't easy, it wasn't hard to do
01:14:38 better than my mother, because my mother hasn't had a job
01:14:40 in like, over 40 years, right?
01:14:42 Is it emotionally easy
01:14:46 to do
01:14:48 morally better than your parents?
01:14:50 Like if your parents were violent,
01:14:52 is it emotionally easy
01:14:54 for you to morally improve upon your parents?
01:14:56 Piece of cake. Yes times a thousand.
01:15:04 And maybe it's just me,
01:15:06 I find it hard. I do find it
01:15:08 hard sometimes.
01:15:10 It would hurt like hell, because if it was possible, then it hurts that I didn't receive it from them.
01:15:20 I want to show them up.
01:15:22 That's a motive, that doesn't mean that it's easy to do it.
01:15:24 Well, my parents left me with babysitters for weeks at a time,
01:15:26 so yes, sometimes, and no others.
01:15:28 I suspect significant waves of
01:15:34 bullshit in the audience. I could be wrong,
01:15:36 but I suspect dissociation
01:15:38 in significant waves of nonsense
01:15:40 from the audience. No disrespect, I could be
01:15:42 totally wrong, I'm just telling you.
01:15:44 Okay, if you had bad parents,
01:15:48 are you,
01:15:50 are you raised and trained
01:15:52 and bullied and bribed and punished
01:15:54 to obey your parents?
01:15:56 Yes, of course you are, right?
01:16:00 Not anymore?
01:16:02 No, you were, I said you were, were you?
01:16:04 Right, so you were highly punished
01:16:06 for disobeying your parents,
01:16:08 right?
01:16:10 Now, do your
01:16:12 parents, let's say
01:16:14 your parents were violent, do your parents
01:16:16 want you to be a peaceful parent?
01:16:18 No.
01:16:24 So this is why I suspect certain waves
01:16:26 of bullshit from my wonderful audience, and I'm really
01:16:28 happy you guys are here, and again, I could be totally wrong.
01:16:30 But if we're trained
01:16:32 to obey our parents, and our parents don't want
01:16:34 us to improve, isn't it tough
01:16:36 to improve? Because we're going against parental
01:16:38 commandments that were beaten into us for 20
01:16:40 years.
01:16:42 Isn't this like trying to train
01:16:46 yourself to not understand the language you were raised
01:16:48 with? Am I wrong about this? Again, I could be
01:16:50 totally wrong, but it seems to me
01:16:52 kind of logical.
01:16:54 That if you're trained to obey your parents,
01:16:56 and your parents were bad, becoming good is going
01:16:58 against your parents' wishes. They don't want you to do well.
01:17:02 They don't want you to do well.
01:17:04 Somebody says, "I almost did not have children for fear
01:17:10 I would become them.
01:17:12 I might have been dumbfounded after seeing how I raised my son."
01:17:14 You know, because parents always say, "Well, I want my children
01:17:24 to do better than I do." And that's true, in terms
01:17:26 of money.
01:17:28 You know, you think of the kids that come in from some other country,
01:17:30 or the parents come in from another country, they work two jobs
01:17:32 to get their kids into school and educated, and all that
01:17:34 sort of Japanese stuff.
01:17:36 Do your
01:17:42 parents want you
01:17:44 to be good if your parents were
01:17:50 immoral?
01:17:52 Somebody says,
01:17:54 "I think that's why I'm childless today.
01:17:56 Subconsciously, I don't want to be like my parents."
01:17:58 No, that's not why you're childless.
01:18:00 "I was never afraid to have kids, I just knew I wouldn't do things the same."
01:18:04 Agreed, I understand all of that.
01:18:06 I understand all of that.
01:18:08 I'm saying, is it easy?
01:18:10 Easy to do better because the bar is low,
01:18:14 but hard to do because your parents don't want you to.
01:18:16 Right.
01:18:18 So, if your parents say, "Well, I wasn't an ideal parent
01:18:24 because I had a bad childhood, and you have a bad childhood,
01:18:26 and you have bad childhood become a good parent, do you not take away that excuse from them?
01:18:30 Don't you take away their excuse? Like if you do wrong, because I'm just doing this whole
01:18:42 section of the book undoing parental defenses as to why they did
01:18:47 wrong, why were they harmful, why were they brutal, why were they aggressive,
01:18:51 why were they wrong, why were they bad? So how easy is it for immoral people when you take away their excuses?
01:18:58 Take away their excuses. Well I had a tough childhood and that's why I was not an ideal
01:19:09 parent and then you become a good parent despite having a tough childhood, you take away that
01:19:12 excuse don't you? I mean not maybe you don't try to, but you do don't you? Take away that excuse.
01:19:18 What is it like for bad people when they have no excuses left? What is it like for them?
01:19:32 Just peel away layer after layer, layer defense after defense, armor after armor, just peel that away.
01:19:37 Well you know we had to hit kids because otherwise they don't turn out well. It's like well my
01:19:44 daughter is now going to be 15 in a couple of months and she's fantastic and I've never yelled
01:19:49 at her, never hit her, never punished her, never right? So that's wrong.
01:19:52 Well I raised you the way that I was raised, that's what parents do. Well I'm raising my
01:19:58 child differently so you could have as well. Just peel away, you take away these excuses.
01:20:02 My mom didn't speak to me for seven years, she now acknowledges what she did.
01:20:13 I'm not sure she does.
01:20:14 What happens when you take away
01:20:28 the defenses of immoral people, their justifications? What's underneath that?
01:20:39 Yeah, that's right, rage.
01:20:43 Do you know how evil people contain their evil? Do you know how they do it?
01:20:53 Do you know how they pretend to not be evil?
01:20:56 How do evil people contain their evil?
01:21:06 Do you know how they do it?
01:21:09 With justifications, blame shift, they become victims, projection, small offensive motions,
01:21:23 passive aggression, camouflage, virtue signal, smiling faces, they tell themselves they had good
01:21:28 intention. Quite right, you guys are, "I'm getting a tan from this brilliance." Make you feel guilty,
01:21:34 they confabulate and brainwash themselves into believing the other person deserved it.
01:21:37 Camouflage, yeah, yeah.
01:21:40 Lie. Lots of people lie but it's not specific to this. Although you're right.
01:22:02 Oh, I don't know. Is it too early to hurt people with truth?
01:22:06 We've come a long way from printers to ripping off soul band-aids.
01:22:11 Are you robust enough? Because this is going to hurt.
01:22:17 This is one of these statements that's just going to hurt.
01:22:29 You love the hurtful truths? Truth knockout?
01:22:31 It's 1 30 a.m here. Please tell us the truth. All right.
01:22:41 The way that evil lives with itself is it pretends it had no free will.
01:22:55 It pretends it had no free will.
01:23:00 Kairos, try and stay with the convo. Determinism, absolutely. What are all the excuses that bad
01:23:09 parents use? What are they all? What are they? I had to. I had to. I had no choice.
01:23:18 I either had no choice because it was the right thing to do or I had no choice because of the way
01:23:24 I was raised. I did the best I could with the knowledge I had. They take away their free will.
01:23:29 Because if you're forced to do something, you're not responsible for it, right?
01:23:36 We agree on that, right? If someone forces you to rob a bank at gunpoint,
01:23:42 you're not responsible for robbing the bank, right? So you have to destroy your free will
01:23:47 in order to pretend to yourself you weren't immoral. Are we together on that?
01:23:53 There is no parenting manual. Yeah,
01:24:01 yeah, there is no. Of course, well, A, there are parenting manuals.
01:24:08 Of course, there are thousands of parenting manuals.
01:24:10 You just didn't look for them. And these are the same, like, you have a dad who,
01:24:17 "Well, there weren't any parenting manuals, but boy, it's going to take three months to
01:24:20 research buying a new car and then I'm going to read that manual cover to cover."
01:24:24 There are parenting manuals. Of course, there are.
01:24:25 I mean, you literally get assigned a math textbook and if you don't study and you say,
01:24:33 "Well, there's no textbook for math," they say, "Well, of course, there is." It's like,
01:24:36 how many more? Are there more parenting books or more math textbooks? There are more parenting
01:24:40 books. So you see, I couldn't get the information. Therefore, I'm not responsible for the bad
01:24:49 outcome. I was programmed by my parents. I was programmed by history. You kids were bad. I had
01:24:54 no choice. I was doing the best I could, but the knowledge I had, I'm in the right. I had no choice.
01:24:59 I had no choice. I had no choice. I had no choice. Take free will, strangle it in the crib,
01:25:06 and you don't feel immoral. Hey, man, I'm just a plaything of the universe. I'm just a domino.
01:25:17 You can't blame me for what I had no choice but to do.
01:25:21 You can't blame me for what I had no choice but to do.
01:25:27 Were you ever allowed that excuse as a kid? "Well, you know, I didn't study because I'm
01:25:40 forced to go to school. I don't have any free will about going to school."
01:25:47 Everyone who denies free will is covering up a crime. 100%. No exception to this rule.
01:25:53 So your parents say, if they were bad, they say, "I did what I did because I had a bad childhood,
01:26:05 but you don't get any excuse." And their bad childhood was decades in the past.
01:26:09 But you, who are currently experiencing a bad childhood, get no excuse.
01:26:17 "So my bad childhood is why I did bad things. My bad childhood decades ago is why I did bad things,
01:26:23 and I punished you because I gave you, so I don't have any moral free will." But you have perfect
01:26:27 moral free will, despite the fact that you're currently going through a bad childhood that
01:26:30 I'm inflicting on you. "So my bad childhood gives me a moral excuse. Your bad childhood,
01:26:35 100% responsible." Infinitely higher moral standards for the child than for the parents.
01:26:40 Always. Always. Thank you. Appreciate the tip. When you look at parental defenses,
01:26:50 I mean, you all know what my mother's defense was, right? Why did my mother do
01:26:54 bad things? She knew she did bad things. She couldn't pretend she didn't.
01:26:57 Why? What was my mother's excuse? Why was she not responsible? No,
01:27:02 she didn't claim World War II, although that would actually be a more reasonable one.
01:27:08 I wouldn't expect you to remember this little bit of Molly New trivia. And what was my mother's
01:27:11 excuse as to why she did bad things? No, not because my dad left.
01:27:16 And again, I'm not, whether you know this or not, it's not particularly important,
01:27:24 but it follows the pattern. No, the doctors poisoned her. That's right. Yeah, thank you.
01:27:29 Yeah, so the doctors injected her with bad things that drove her crazy, and
01:27:35 she Epstein-Barr and chronic fatigue syndrome, and she just, right? I mean,
01:27:42 I don't know what happened to her in the asylum. Of course, I was like 11 or 12, but
01:27:46 yeah, it's the doctor's fault. They did this to her.
01:27:51 She had no choice. Now, of course, why she was immoral, as I pointed out when I confronted her,
01:28:01 it's like you say this, but you also beat us up in England when we were little,
01:28:06 and you hadn't met your Canadian hell doctors then, right?
01:28:10 So the conflict goes like this. The conflict goes like this.
01:28:19 I'm not immoral because I have this excuse. Take away the excuse.
01:28:25 Well, I was not immoral because I have this excuse. Take away that excuse.
01:28:31 I was not immoral because, right, they've got 10 excuses. You knock them down one by one.
01:28:35 What happens when you remove the last excuse?
01:28:38 Right? When you take away the excuse, the evil returns. So evil
01:28:49 is kept at bay through excuses. You take away the excuses, you re-expose the evil.
01:29:01 Excuses mask abuses. Is it okay that we rhyme a little? Excuses mask abuses.
01:29:11 Why am I saying this? I'm saying this
01:29:18 because when you do morally better than your parents, you take away their excuses.
01:29:27 When you take away their excuses, you expose the underlying rage,
01:29:31 which both you and them have kept at bay with the magic shield called excuses. Your parents have
01:29:38 excuses. They demand that you accept their abuses, excuses. They demand that you accept their excuses,
01:29:46 and you collude by accepting their excuses. And then the moment you say, "I no longer accept
01:29:52 your excuses," the rage comes back. The abuse comes back. When you morally improve over your
01:30:02 parents, you take away their excuses. Now, of course, if you do financially better than your
01:30:11 parents, they can accept that, because I came from another country, I didn't speak English,
01:30:16 it took me a while to get settled in, I'm glad I'm here. I'm not going to be a bad parent.
01:30:20 It took me a while to get settled in. I'm glad that you guys are doing better.
01:30:23 That's perfectly reasonable. That's a reasonable reason. It's a reason why they didn't do as well.
01:30:33 Morally, though, is another matter.
01:30:34 When I started taking away my mother's excuses, what's at the bottom of that digging? What's
01:30:45 down there? It's a volcano. Take away the excuses. So the only way that you get to be with people
01:30:52 who are unrepentant evildoers, the only way you get to be with those people in any
01:30:56 pretend civilized way, is if you pretend they had no choice.
01:31:00 "Oh, we thought it was great parenting." Did you check?
01:31:08 "You had to be spanked, otherwise you would have turned out bad." "Oh, did you do any research?"
01:31:13 "Did you check?"
01:31:19 So when I was a kid, you ever heard this, "Never assume, it makes an ass out of you and me."
01:31:26 You break out the word "assume." Do you ever hear that kind of stuff? "Never assume." "Did you check?"
01:31:29 "Well, I thought..." "No, don't think." "Did you check?"
01:31:36 "I thought the test was today." "Did you check?"
01:31:41 "You're responsible for checking." "I thought I turned off the hose." "Did you go and check?"
01:31:45 "I thought I had my wallet with me." "Did you check?"
01:31:53 "I intended to." "I meant to." "Well, did you?" "Did you check?"
01:31:59 "I thought I packed my toothbrush." "Did you check?"
01:32:08 "I assumed this wasn't going to be on the test." "I assumed the test was tomorrow, not today."
01:32:11 "I assumed that the homework was optional." "I assumed that I had packed my toothbrush."
01:32:16 "I assumed I had my money with me." Were you ever allowed to just assume things and it was fine?
01:32:23 "I assumed that I had my money with me." "I assumed that I had my toothbrush."
01:32:27 "I assumed that I had my money with me." Were you ever allowed to just assume things and it was fine?
01:32:35 And it was fine? Ever? Maybe once or twice, but not often, right?
01:32:43 No. So as a kid, you couldn't just assume. You had to check, right? You had to check.
01:32:55 You had to check. You had to double check, triple check. You had to be sure.
01:33:04 So, so parents who punish you when you make assumptions, who then say, "Well,
01:33:18 I assumed that hitting was good parenting." "Did you check? Did you look it up? Did you check?"
01:33:22 Nope. But you weren't allowed to assume things as a kid,
01:33:29 about things infinitely less important than actually hitting children.
01:33:33 "My dad said that not all parents who spank are evil and they have good intentions.
01:33:39 He doesn't condone spanking now, so I'm not sure what he's getting at."
01:33:42 Okay, that's fine. Did your dad ever punish you for having good intentions with a bad outcome?
01:33:49 Or did you ever get to say, if your dad was angry at something you did,
01:33:54 did you ever get to say, "Oh no, no, I had good intentions."
01:34:01 Did you ever get to say that? Was good intentions an excuse that was valid for you as a child?
01:34:05 It's the simple thing we do with UPP.
01:34:08 "You know, I thought I was ready for that test. I thought I knew how to spell this word. I had
01:34:14 good intentions. I thought I would be okay. I had good intentions. I meant to knock off. I didn't
01:34:27 mean to knock over that lamp. I had good intentions. I didn't mean to spill that drink. I didn't mean
01:34:32 to hit my brother. I had good intentions. I just wanted to do something funny and he got hit.
01:34:37 I had good intentions." Was that ever, "Oh, if you have good intentions, that's fine.
01:34:41 If you claim to have good intentions, that's totally fine."
01:34:46 Was that allowed for you as a child?
01:34:51 [Pause]
01:35:07 You're all typing some long messages here. I'm looking.
01:35:10 "Good intentions is good enough for my dad, not so much mom."
01:35:13 "Oh, so your dad, when you were a kid, if you said you had good intentions,
01:35:18 he wouldn't punish you. He wouldn't think negatively of you. There'd be no negative
01:35:21 repercussions if you said, 'No, I had good intentions.' So if you failed to study for a
01:35:28 test, but you had good intentions to pass it, that was fine. You'd be like, 'Oh, fair. Good
01:35:34 intentions are fair.' Did you get a defense called good intentions? He didn't punish me for things I
01:35:45 did that were accidents, like breaking his vase, for example." What are you talking about? We're
01:35:51 not talking about an accident. "Spanking is not an accident." Whoops! Accident? He pulled your
01:35:56 pants down and hit you. Whoops! You know, hate it when that happens. You're at the mall, you know,
01:36:00 there's a little bit of oil on the ground. Whoops! Pull someone's pants down, they end up over your
01:36:05 lap and you just spank them 10 times. Oh my gosh, officer, I slipped. I mean, it's an accident.
01:36:10 "Spanking is not an accident." What are you talking about? Accidents. What are you bringing
01:36:15 this in for? It's a completely unrelated example.
01:36:19 "When you did something intentionally that turned out to be bad, did you get to say you had good
01:36:27 intentions? You planned, did something, executed it, and it was really bad. Did you get to say,
01:36:36 'Oh no, I had good intentions.' Okay, that's fine."
01:36:38 "Why should you give an excuse to your father that he didn't give to you as a child?"
01:36:51 Because it makes... "Was your father more in control of his behavior than you were as a child?
01:36:58 Did your father have more liberty, more knowledge, more wisdom, more maturity? Did he have an adult
01:37:02 brain? Did he have more choice than you had as a child?"
01:37:12 "Lucy, why are you saying, 'What happened to freedomain.com with all the podcasts?'
01:37:25 It's running." Don't interrupt me for saying something like that. Be sure, be certain,
01:37:29 because I have to go and check to see if freedomain.com is still running. So please try not
01:37:34 to interrupt me when I'm in the middle of something, when it's not even correct.
01:37:37 Freedomain.com is running,
01:37:41 as is FDRpodcast.com. So please don't interrupt me when I'm in the middle of a flow with something
01:37:52 that is a technical issue that is incorrect.
01:37:58 Somebody says, "I think the double-edged sword is the abused parent instinctively knows they can't
01:38:02 complain about their childhood, and then they hear their inner child's criticism echoed from
01:38:05 their own children. Both children, inner child of abused parents,
01:38:08 instinctively know they can't complain about their childhood, and then they hear their inner child's
01:38:15 criticisms echoed from their own children. Both children, inner child of abused parents, and their
01:38:18 now child could simply be trying to connect with their parent. That sounds confusing. It all gets
01:38:23 filtered as criticism. Okay, this is an overcomplicated, to me, pile of word salad
01:38:29 to overstep something as simple as hypocrisy. Isn't this just hypocrisy? You, as a child with
01:38:40 no freedom and liberty, where you're forced to pretty much do just about anything, you don't
01:38:43 get any excuse called "I had good intentions." But when I'm an adult hitting a child, I have this
01:38:48 magical excuse called "good intentions," which means nothing bad happened.
01:38:54 And let me ask you this. Can good intentions 20 years ago ever be proven?
01:39:05 Can good intentions from 20 years ago ever be proven?
01:39:16 Nope. They can't. Not a chance. "Well, I had good intentions 20 years ago."
01:39:23 Good intentions from the same day can't be proven. See, good intentions is a bullshit phrase
01:39:33 invented so people don't have to apologize. It's complete bullshit.
01:39:40 Good intentions. Good, good, good, good intentions.
01:39:46 No, it doesn't exist. State of mind from 20 years ago, absolutely unverifiable.
01:39:54 State of mind 20 years ago, absolutely unverifiable.
01:39:58 And it's a lie. It's a lie. How do I know that the phrase "good intentions"
01:40:08 as an excuse for spanking is a complete and total lie?
01:40:11 How do I know with no reference to outside facts, no history, how do I know? No, not because they
01:40:22 feel the need to justify it. You can feel the need to justify something that is in fact justifiable.
01:40:26 Everybody feels the need to justify things. How do I know in the moment that the good
01:40:30 intentions from 20 years ago is a total lie? All right, step with me through this.
01:40:38 If your father hit you as a child, would you feel better if he took total responsibility in the
01:40:46 present? If he didn't make excuses, you would feel better, right?
01:40:53 So he's fucking saying that he knows his bad intentions from 20 years ago,
01:41:02 but he's completely unaware of his bad intentions right now.
01:41:06 Does he have good intentions when he makes excuses for hitting you?
01:41:10 No. So this is how I know. The supposed good intentions from 20 years ago
01:41:18 are a complete lie because he doesn't even have good intentions now, talking about it now.
01:41:29 So when somebody is in a very corrupt way, acting with bad intentions, saying, "No, no, no,
01:41:38 good intentions from 20 years ago." It's like, "No, you don't even have good intentions now.
01:41:42 The fuck would I believe you about 20 years ago?"
01:41:44 "Well, I'm a thief now. I'm stealing from you now, but 20 years ago, although I did steal from you a
01:41:55 lot, I had good intentions." It's like, "If you had good intentions, maybe stop stealing from me
01:41:59 once in a while." "Maybe, just maybe." "Keep your hands in your own fucking pockets and stop taking
01:42:05 my wallet." "Maybe, maybe, maybe, then I'll start thinking about good intentions, but maybe stop
01:42:11 doing bad things." "Well, the bad things in the past were done with good intentions, so you can't
01:42:16 get mad at me and you're being unjust and it's unfair because I had good intentions." It's like,
01:42:20 "Where are your good intentions right now when I'm asking you to take responsibility?
01:42:24 You have no good intentions now." Honestly, I get like a soul, spinal, body chill with this stuff.
01:42:33 How about you model good intentions in the here and now before you start telling me about all
01:42:40 the good intentions you had when you were hitting my ass 20 years ago, or 30, or 40, or 50?
01:42:51 Shake it off. Shake it off. It's like, literally, it feels like putting my face in a bucket of
01:42:57 maggots. It really does. Analyze it. This is why this book is so fucking punchy. I literally feel
01:43:02 like I'm putting my face in maggots for a couple hours a day. It's so gross to me. It's so
01:43:09 manipulative. It's so creepy. It's so vile. It could be unjust. I'm just telling you my direct
01:43:15 experience is repulsive. You see how powerful UPB is though, right?
01:43:21 Don't lie to me about your good intentions because you're manifesting bad fucking intentions
01:43:30 right now telling me about all the good intentions you had in the past.
01:43:33 "Oh, I had so many good intentions in the past. I really didn't want to stab you in the past. I had
01:43:39 good intentions. Maybe stop stabbing me now. Would you mind stop stabbing me now?" Then we can
01:43:45 maybe start talking about your good intentions, but maybe a little less fucking stabbing now
01:43:49 would be the thing to do if you want to tell me about your good intentions.
01:43:52 Yeah, spanking as a sexual component. Yeah, the anus is an erogenous zone. Yeah, it is very bizarre.
01:44:00 And of course, people do it because you have to cover your butt so the bruises don't show. That's
01:44:04 one reason. All right. Dissociation with food. Who am I serving? So if you're overweight,
01:44:12 do you want to be fat? Simple yes or no stuff. If I help solve your weight issues, do I get a
01:44:19 donation? Just out of curiosity. I just want to know if I'm working for anything real tangible.
01:44:23 I mean, self-satisfaction is good. Helping people is good. If you did, fantastic. Right, so if I
01:44:30 solve your weight issues, do I get a tip if you haven't tipped for a while? Just out of curiosity.
01:44:35 You don't have to. I'm just curious to see how motivated I'm going to be. My motivation is a
01:44:40 little bit out. I mean, I'm a little bit of a puppet in your hands, right? I'm donating next
01:44:47 month when I'm spending your budget resets. Stay at home mom life. Appreciate that. No problem
01:44:51 then. Hey, if you're low on cash, take it and enjoy. Don't worry, you'll make money later and
01:44:55 you can make it up. That's fine. Don't worry about it. No problem. All right. If you're overweight,
01:45:03 do you want to be overweight? Of course no, right? You don't want to be overweight. Now,
01:45:15 do you know exactly what you need to do to lose the weight? What do you need to do to lose the
01:45:21 weight? We question. What do you need to do? What do you need to do to lose the weight?
01:45:28 Eat less, move more. Boom. Eat less, move more. Eat less, move more. Eat healthy and exercise.
01:45:34 Right. Have you looked up the science of losing weight? How many calories do you need to reduce
01:45:42 to lose one pound? How many calories do you need to lose to lose one pound?
01:46:06 Calories to lose one pound. I typed in calories to love one pound.
01:46:09 Yeah, so if you cut about 500 calories a day from your usual diet, you may lose about half a
01:46:16 pound to a pound a week. So yeah, you, yeah, it's about 3,500 calories to lose a pound, right?
01:46:24 Now, none of this is diet advice. I'm just looking at the math, right? Now, hit me with a why. Do you
01:46:32 track the calories you eat over the course of a day? Do you track the calories you eat over the
01:46:38 course of a day? Yes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Right. You keep a food diary. Now, you know that there are apps, right? There are apps. I think one's called Lose It.
01:46:52 There are other apps. You can enter your food and you just look it up and it gives you, no, it's not
01:46:59 perfect, but you can enter your food and it will tell you. You got MyFitnessPal. Yeah, I've tried
01:47:04 Lose It. So you just enter your food and then you can figure out whether you're going to gain or lose weight, right?
01:47:11 So can you manage what you don't measure? Can you manage what you don't measure, what you cannot measure?
01:47:24 No, right. So you know you don't want to have the extra weight.
01:47:34 You know exactly what you need to do to lose the extra weight, but it seems that most of you
01:47:40 aren't tracking what you eat. So out of curiosity, why are you not tracking what you eat? Are you
01:47:49 tracking your exercise, right? Are you tracking how many calories you burn over exercise? I do about
01:47:58 4,000 calories a week in exercise. So do you track your exercise and track your food?
01:48:09 Because all the stuff I like blows out my calorie target.
01:48:15 No, but I do lift weights every day. I use the apps before it gets annoying to write everything down.
01:48:20 Try skipping breakfast and lunch. I've lost 80 pounds and kept it off for four years.
01:48:25 Well, of course, but you see you're just telling, you're bragging here. I'm sorry, this is kind of
01:48:32 annoying because you're bragging. So you're saying eat less. What did I just ask everyone, my friend?
01:48:37 Sorry, I just, the vanity of the question is, what did I just ask everyone? I'm sorry, I'm just
01:48:43 sorry. I just, the vanity stuff around losing weight is just annoying. Well, I've done this. I've lost
01:48:49 80. Just try doing this. Everybody already knows that they should eat less, right? So you're not
01:48:53 telling them anything they don't already know. Please show some respect to the people you're
01:48:57 talking to, okay? They already know that they should eat less. So then you say, well, try
01:49:01 scraping breakfast and lunch. They already know that they should eat less. I don't track, maybe I
01:49:09 should. My excuse is that I find it a pain in the butt to use the app. Yeah, the shallow answers,
01:49:20 yeah. No, it's just, oh, I've lost all of this weight. You should just do this, right? All right.
01:49:25 So, if you want to lose weight and you know exactly what to you want to do, but you're not
01:49:36 doing it, it's because you're serving someone other than yourself. You follow? If you want to
01:49:44 lose weight, you know what to do, but you're not doing it. It's because you're serving someone
01:49:50 other than yourself. Right? If you don't want to go to work, but you go to work, you're serving
01:49:58 your boss, not you. Because if it was up to you, you wouldn't go to work, right? You're serving
01:50:02 someone else. And it's fine, we do this from time to time, right? When a mother, a new mother gets
01:50:07 up for the third time at night because the baby's crying, she's serving her baby, not herself,
01:50:10 because she doesn't want to get up. So who are you serving? It's a fundamental question in life.
01:50:16 Who are you serving? Who are you serving? This is a fundamental question to ask in your life as a
01:50:25 whole. That's why I got out of politics. I don't want to serve those people anymore. Who are you
01:50:32 serving? Who benefits from you being fat? Right? Who benefits from you being fat?
01:50:41 It's not you, right? It's not you. I mean, don't you see
01:50:53 a lot of really old, overweight people?
01:51:03 Do you see a lot of them? No. Whenever you see a really old person, aren't they skinny?
01:51:19 Losing weight, even just 5 to 10 percent of excess weight can add years to your life.
01:51:23 Years to your life. It's a slow motion fat bullet that kills you.
01:51:30 Right?
01:51:47 You ask myself that, didn't come up with an answer. Right.
01:51:51 Fundamental question in life. If you want to succeed, right? You want to succeed.
01:51:57 Who loses if you win? Right? I'm typing this in. Who loses if you win? Who loses if you win?
01:52:15 Who's unhappy if you're happy? Your haters. Yeah, of course. The bad people. Right.
01:52:21 Your enemies. Yeah. Hit me with an E if you have enemies. I'm going to hit a couple there.
01:52:43 Right. E to the power of E. Yeah, that's right.
01:52:45 So you got your haters, you got your enemies. Only if I confront them? Nope.
01:52:56 They're in your head. They're in your head. The calls are coming from inside the house.
01:53:01 So you got your enemies. Do your enemies want you to succeed?
01:53:08 If you get away and you're a zebra, is the lion happy?
01:53:12 Who are you in a win-lose relationship with? Even if it's in your head.
01:53:19 Who are you in a win-lose relationship with? Even if it's in your head,
01:53:28 or I guess especially in your head. Right. It's called the MECO system.
01:53:36 Who loses if you win? Yourself? No, I don't know what that means.
01:53:42 You can't be in a win-lose relationship with yourself. Like your core identity.
01:53:47 If you've got a parent who says, "Well, relationships are tough, man, and that's why I
01:53:56 couldn't stay married. You know, relationships are tough."
01:54:04 How happy is your parent if you have a good, happy, loving relationship? That's easy.
01:54:08 Because they're proven wrong. And their justifications are taken away. And if
01:54:13 their justifications are taken away and they've done wrong, they have to confront that evil.
01:54:17 "Oh yeah, they totally changed. They just completely changed."
01:54:21 Is there anyone left in my life who is opposed to me getting into philosophy? Anybody in my life
01:54:31 who is opposed to me getting into philosophy? Of course not, because they'll sabotage me.
01:54:36 I'm not an idiot, right? They'll sabotage me. Of course they will. Of course they will.
01:54:40 Of course they will. Because if I win, they lose.
01:54:50 So stop!
01:54:54 I'm not sure I want to rant directly at you.
01:55:01 Because how often do I rant directly at you?
01:55:05 Rant at you?
01:55:18 Stop being naive. Stop being naive. There are people in your life who desperately need you to
01:55:28 fail. And if they're not in your life, they're in your head. You're in a war for the future of the
01:55:37 world and the future of yourself, like it or not. We didn't ask for this war. It's just the way that
01:55:44 the world is. But stop being naive. There are people in your life, in your past, in your circle,
01:55:49 in your head, who desperately want you to fail and will do anything to achieve that goal.
01:55:55 If you're a good person, do you find good people overabundant in the world that is? Do you find
01:56:01 we're just crowding out the place and you can't swing a cat without hitting a really good person?
01:56:06 And boy, just evil people, immoral people, sabotage-y people are just really, really hard
01:56:11 to come by and everyone's just great and supportive and wonderful. Do you find the
01:56:15 world entirely overburdened with an excess of virtuous souls? No. Who are you surrounded by?
01:56:23 Who are you surrounded by? The baddies.
01:56:30 Statistically, right? You may have wonderful people in your life. I've got great people in
01:56:38 my life. But I recognize we're a little bit of an oasis in a desert of amorality, immorality.
01:56:45 Right?
01:56:52 You're like people trying to have picnic in a war zone. You follow?
01:57:00 You're like people on the beach at Normandy saying, "Hey man,
01:57:06 like all this clatter clatter, a small arms fire is totally interfering with our volleyball game."
01:57:11 There's a war. And if you pretend there's no war, you lose.
01:57:27 Do you follow?
01:57:31 If there's a fight coming up and you do nothing to prepare for it,
01:57:38 how does that fight go? Just out of curiosity. How does the fight go?
01:57:43 If you're not prepared for it, if you think there's not going to be a fight, you lose, of course.
01:57:48 There's a test called combat with immorality.
01:57:53 That happens all the time. It even happens in your dreams, doesn't it?
01:58:07 There's a song, Rich Man North of Richmond, where he says,
01:58:11 "I know that you know." I've been listening to the song by Marillion.
01:58:17 "He knows you know, but he's got problems." It's a drug song, right?
01:58:22 You're already in a drama of good and evil.
01:58:34 You're already in. Yeah, I know, he's not. Yeah, he's woke in his own way. I get all of that.
01:58:42 Everybody rushes to some ginger singer like, "Hey, he's the new moral philosopher." Nope,
01:58:48 just a musician.
01:59:03 Now, how do bad people resolve conflicts?
01:59:06 Good people try to resolve conflicts, win-win negotiations and so on, right?
01:59:15 How do bad people deal with conflicts? What have we got here?
01:59:22 Manipulation or escalation, violence, threats of violence,
01:59:27 shout louder, they deal to win, gaslight, blame,
01:59:34 force, evade, not evade, dominance, projection. They destroy people.
01:59:43 They destroy your reputation, they destroy your capacity to earn an income, they try to destroy
01:59:51 your relationships, they try to destroy your peace of mind, and eventually it escalates to
01:59:55 straight up death, right? I mean, historically, right? I mean, quarter billion people murdered
02:00:01 by their own governments in the 20th century alone, outside of war even.
02:00:04 Who wants you dead, even in your head?
02:00:15 Who wants you dead? Who wants you dead?
02:00:22 All the people to whom your virtue makes them feel evil don't want you around.
02:00:34 I mean, my mom literally tried to set me up with my sister's best friend in front of my now wife
02:00:43 as violence towards my wife. Yeah, when I was dating my fiance, my woman who became my wife,
02:00:47 friend of mine, brought another woman for me to meet, I had a family member try and set me up
02:00:51 with a woman who was 400 pounds. Steph, how do you define the term child abuse in the book?
02:00:56 You can just tell me that this topic is troublesome for me without trying to distract me.
02:01:03 Like, you understand I'm in the middle of a rant here, right? You understand I'm in the middle of
02:01:06 a conversation here, trying to talk to people directly about things, and you bring up something
02:01:09 like this? Do you have no capacity to wait? You can't put that on the sidebar for just a little
02:01:13 bit and let me finish? That just amazes me. It amazes me what people do. It amazes me what people
02:01:24 do. You're not saying that. You're trying to distract me from this conversation so the bad
02:01:30 people in other people's heads don't get provoked. It's amazing. It's so rude. It's so rude when I'm
02:01:43 in the middle of trying to talk about something for people to drag off some other topic.
02:01:46 So if you're overweight and you won't lose weight, it's because people in your head,
02:01:59 in your environment, somewhere, somehow, those people want you discredited.
02:02:04 They want you to look like a loser, and they probably want you to die early.
02:02:09 Tell me I'm wrong. Isn't that the effect? See, as a good person, do they want you
02:02:24 to be out there in the world with great credibility and great health and good
02:02:29 relationships and happiness and showing everyone the full flaming power and might of your virtue?
02:02:35 They want to discredit you. "My dad literally sabotaged my weight loss," says Anthony. "I
02:02:48 see the game now and don't fall for it." If you're healthy and happy and virtuous,
02:03:00 you discredit the practicality of evil. Evil wants to feel that it's practical.
02:03:05 Its last resort is it's the only sane course of action.
02:03:08 You're in a battle. It's a battle of the mind.
02:03:27 It's a battle of the mind.
02:03:30 And that's why when I said to people, "Is it tough to do better than your parents morally?"
02:03:38 And everyone was like, "Yeah, it's easy." No, it's not. No, it's not.
02:03:46 Because those people who just did morally better than their parents throughout our evolution,
02:03:55 what happened to them? Just in general, when they showed up, their superiors and those with
02:04:00 great power in the tribe as being immoral and corrupt, what happened to those people
02:04:04 who just did morally better, happily and joyfully in their tribe, in our tribes evolving? What
02:04:12 happened to those people? Did they do well? Hunting accident. They either died or became
02:04:20 leaders who took over the tribe. They did not become leaders who took over the tribe.
02:04:25 Because virtuous people don't want power over others. Because it destroys your soul.
02:04:30 Yeah, they got ostracized. They got killed in a hunting accident. They got abandoned,
02:04:36 left behind. Nobody protected them when the predators came. They were done, baby. Gone.
02:04:40 There's a little hemlock potion for you, brother.
02:04:45 Yeah, books burned, cancelled. They got heretics. They were burned. Or at the very least,
02:04:51 at the very least, women wouldn't mate with them. Right? Women wouldn't mate with them.
02:04:57 Vin says, "I've been surrounded by addicts my whole life. They see me as a proud crab
02:05:05 crawling out of the bucket. But I know the truth. I may be doing a bit better,
02:05:07 but I'm still miles behind."
02:05:08 Well, the best way to lose it, life, is to surround yourself with losers.
02:05:19 Everybody knows this. I mean, this is not a mystery. The best way to lose it,
02:05:23 life, is to surround yourself with losers.
02:05:24 I just don't want you to be starry-eyed and naive about the battle that you're in.
02:05:34 This phenomenon is a timeless ghost. So great to hear it vocalized. I've never heard it said so
02:05:43 clearly. Thank you. Doing better is really, really, really dangerous.
02:05:54 Improvement is the most extreme sport known to man. You follow?
02:06:09 Almost all throughout history, all improvements were suicidal,
02:06:15 even suggesting them, let alone embodying them.
02:06:19 Don't you sometimes feel like moral mice at the feet of ancient corrupt dinosaurs,
02:06:27 just trying to survive and burrow and run from place to place and get by and not talk and not
02:06:32 get caught and not get found out and not be cornered and not be exposed and just let me
02:06:36 live five more minutes being a good person before the giant chicken feet of the T-Rex of corruption
02:06:42 comes down on your ass? You ever feel that? Maybe it's just me. Do you ever feel that?
02:06:46 That you're hunted for breathing? You're hunted for thinking? You're hunting for asking questions?
02:06:56 You're hunted for being skeptical?
02:07:04 You're hunted for having a mind, for not being an NPC, for being critical,
02:07:10 for being curious, for having facts?
02:07:14 Don't you feel like you walk around the world with your head lit up with
02:07:24 NPC sniper rifles like you're some tomato?
02:07:28 Welcome my son, welcome to the machine. No,
02:07:39 the machine is not the right analogy because the machine is amoral.
02:07:50 You know the dance, right? We all know the dance.
02:07:52 How much truth can I speak before people turn on me?
02:07:57 How much honesty do I dare?
02:08:04 How many facts can I speak before they turn into torches and pitchforks in the hands of the mob?
02:08:20 How honest and funny can I be before the laughter stops
02:08:24 and they chase my ass through the woods to string me up?
02:08:28 How much truth can people handle before I'm a heretic?
02:08:38 How many facts
02:08:46 can people swallow before it becomes a sickness?
02:08:49 They only believe they can cure themselves off by attacking me or you.
02:08:55 And what happens if I tell the truth and some people start to attack me?
02:09:09 What happens to everyone else? Is anyone going to stand by me?
02:09:14 Is anyone going to stand with me? Is anyone going to defend me?
02:09:17 Or do they just slowly step back and away?
02:09:21 Step over the bodies and the jackals, step away
02:09:28 from the firelight that's consuming his legs.
02:09:33 Move back from the mob, slither into the night.
02:09:42 I don't know if somebody says I often feel my truth impulse is a death impulse.
02:09:48 I find you can talk about just about anything except child abuse.
02:10:00 Most people I've talked to can
02:10:01 be swayed to libertarian ideas but if I mention how evil most people are I can feel the temperature
02:10:08 of the room drop. No, there's a whole bunch of things you can't talk about.
02:10:12 Oh yeah, I feel like I'm in Jurassic Park sometimes and I don't move or interact much
02:10:15 so that I don't attract their attention. I'm sorry for interrupting earlier, that's okay.
02:10:20 At times I've made it a game of trying to send a message without triggering the defense.
02:10:25 Covert moral vigilance with small successes here and there. It's a guerrilla movement,
02:10:28 isn't it? It's an underground movement. It feels like walking on a minefield sometimes.
02:10:32 People can erupt depending on the topic. And you feel this is different between men and women in
02:10:36 the audience? Do you feel it's different between men and women when you're talking? Is it different?
02:10:41 Is it different?
02:10:45 Women are worse in your experience. Don't forget it. I mean, I think sometimes women get a little
02:10:57 bit more tense about certain topics. Women seem to freak out more with potential disagreement
02:11:04 than men do. I think a lot of men sort of jump into it and like, "Let's roll it up and let's
02:11:08 get it up, right? Let's get it on." I mean, aren't we in a dance with the world on a minefield?
02:11:22 Dodge, slither, dive, shoot something up in the air to tell the truth,
02:11:32 run away from the repercussions. Aren't we in this crazy complicated dance with
02:11:38 trying to improve people without rousing the mob to hunt us down?
02:11:45 Women's sensitivity is often the excuse invoked for avoiding certain topics. Don't upset your
02:11:52 mother. Well, some people were saying, "Do you think that the ferocious peaceful parenting book
02:12:00 could be dangerous?" Yeah. Yes.
02:12:05 And I have, I mean, I've been told this many times that I have a way of bringing topics up
02:12:16 with people that they don't realize just how volatile these topics are because I'm fine with
02:12:19 it. And I've been told many times, "The way you talk, you can talk about the wildest stuff." And
02:12:23 people were just like, "Oh, that's interesting," as opposed to, "Now, maybe later." But I have
02:12:27 this kind of odd ability to just talk about volatile stuff, at least I had for a long time,
02:12:32 without triggering people's defenses. I don't know if you've experienced that for me, but
02:12:35 Lloyd-Demass might be the most inflammatory.
02:12:40 Maybe. But Lloyd-Demass' work doesn't change any individual's decision.
02:12:55 I'm actually having a great time despite the challenges. I imagine the times could be even
02:12:58 worse. Well, I'm not bothered by the topics, and most people don't judge your topics. They
02:13:11 judge only whether you're bothered by the topics. So if I talk about the topics in an unbothered
02:13:15 way, people are like, "Well, I guess this is okay," and then maybe later they repeat it,
02:13:19 and then they get attacked, and then, "Oh my gosh," then it's bad, right?
02:13:26 So if you're overweight, it's because bad people in your life, to some degree or another,
02:13:33 want you discredited, want you unloved, want you self-doubting, want you self-disgusted
02:13:41 with yourself, perhaps, if you're very overweight and that's your experience, right?
02:13:45 And maybe they want you, I mean, you'll be taken out of life years earlier, maybe they want you
02:13:50 out of the way in a way. Who are you serving? Who does it benefit for you to be overweight?
02:13:57 Who does it benefit for you to be overweight? Doesn't benefit you,
02:14:03 doesn't benefit virtue, doesn't benefit love, doesn't benefit peer bonding. Who does it benefit?
02:14:09 So you see why when I said, "How easy is it to do better than your parents or better than those
02:14:13 around you?" And you're like, "No, it's great. It's fine. Yeah, it's easy." I'm like, "No, it's not."
02:14:18 And that's naivete, right? And that's dangerous. You're like that fresh-faced kid in the World War
02:14:25 I movie who's always totally eager to make a movie, and then you're like, "No, it's not."
02:14:28 And then you're like, "No, it's not." And that's naivete, right? And that's dangerous. You're like
02:14:35 that fresh-faced kid in the World War I movie who's always totally eager to fight, and right?
02:14:39 It's going to be great.
02:14:41 No, be cautious. For God's sakes, be careful out there. It's dangerous out there.
02:14:51 Respect the danger. Respect the challenge. Be alert. Head on a swivel.
02:15:02 Don't be naive. Lord knows I've done it. I'm not saying this is bitter hard-won experience, right?
02:15:10 Don't be naive. It's dangerous out there.
02:15:12 Because you think it's easy to speak the truth, be virtuous, and do good in society,
02:15:20 but you can't even lose 20 pounds. Don't talk to me about what's easy. Start with the 20 pounds,
02:15:25 then fix the world. You follow me? This is what I mean when I say the bad people want you
02:15:31 discredited. "Well, I know how to live, and I know what's virtuous, and I know what's good."
02:15:34 But you can't even lose the 20 pounds.
02:15:39 You're discrediting yourself and virtue and philosophy.
02:15:45 Now that connection hurt. Yeah, but I'm telling you, I did this years ago. It was a David,
02:15:54 I can't remember. It was a guy who had, it was a professor, Roderick Long.
02:16:03 Good writer, good researcher. Easy 250, 300 pounds.
02:16:09 So how are people going to listen to you about how to live
02:16:19 if you present as significantly overweight, or unhealthy, or
02:16:23 sallow, or you've got bad teeth? Like, groom yourself, look decent.
02:16:27 Because once you have the truth, you understand you have a responsibility
02:16:35 to present it well. And it should be a selfish responsibility because it'll keep you happy.
02:16:44 You have a responsibility to present the truth well. If you want people to listen to you on
02:16:50 radical ideas about how to have peace and reason and virtue in society,
02:16:53 but you can't drop the 20 pounds, you're just giving people an excuse to not listen to you.
02:17:02 Right? Don't give people an excuse to not listen to you.
02:17:10 Six foot 245 pounds. Yeah, that's pretty heavy. I'm almost six foot 193 and I could use another 10.
02:17:17 Start on what you can control. Start on what gives you credibility.
02:17:27 Right? I'm almost 57. Would you say I'm fairly fit?
02:17:37 I think so. I think so. I think so. I mean, I did 45 minutes of hard weights today while writing,
02:17:47 and I did an hour of pickleball. And I walked not a huge amount,
02:17:51 9,300 steps, because I did a call-in show as well this afternoon.
02:17:56 And I walked during that time.
02:18:04 Not bad. Now, why do I do all of that? I don't love exercise. I don't love exercise. If it's
02:18:12 any consolation, I don't love exercise. I like playing sports, but I don't love doing weights.
02:18:18 Why would you? It's retarded.
02:18:21 Maybe I like the feeling afterwards, feel a little swollen. I don't like doing weights.
02:18:27 Why on earth would you like to? It's boring. Of course it is. It's ridiculous.
02:18:33 At least I can write or play a game of Catan or online or something, but it's retarded.
02:18:38 You're a machine. You're moving stuff. You might as well be a crane or a forklift.
02:18:42 It's ridiculous.
02:18:44 Ooh, cardio. Hey, I wonder if I could really make myself feel like I'm about to die
02:18:50 to feel healthy. That's great. I love doing that stuff. And now I can't even run, right?
02:18:55 Because I'm pushing 57, so I got to do a bike machine because it's like,
02:18:59 "Ugh." You listen to a podcast. Yes, great. Do stuff while you lift. Yeah, but
02:19:05 it's boring and it's stupid, lifting weights. It is boring. Okay, so yeah.
02:19:14 But you get to live for years longer and you get to not have brittle bones and you get to not have
02:19:22 diabetes and you get to not have joint problems. Yeah, you got to do it. It's like brushing your
02:19:26 teeth. How much fun is it to brush your teeth? Boring as hell. How much fun is it to go to the
02:19:30 dentist? Boring as hell. Had a colonoscopy recently. The Tunnel movie will be out in IMAX.
02:19:38 It's boring, ridiculous, bad, dull. I had to drink like an ocean worth of, basically, it tasted like
02:19:46 seawater. I had to drink like, I don't know, 10 liters of seawater or whatever the hell it was,
02:19:51 right? It was just disgusting, horrible. I felt like I was going to throw up for hours.
02:19:56 But just be credible to yourself, be credible to others. It's just the way that it is. If you want
02:20:01 to tell people how to live, you can't look bad. You just can't. You can't look bad.
02:20:09 But other people want you to lose credibility, so you're serving the people who want you to
02:20:21 lose credibility to lose weight. Oh my god, dude.
02:20:30 So that comes out to minus 600 calories per day. A target daily calorie is 27 to 3200
02:20:37 penny of room for enjoyable food without fasting. Macro system works well for people.
02:20:47 Oh, I'm trying to have a deep conversation about things with people, and
02:20:53 people are still talking about grade 5 math.
02:20:57 Because I want to show people how wise I am and how easy it is for me. Oh, vanity, vanity,
02:21:08 vanity, vanity, vanity, vanity, vanity. It's easy. Just do this. It's just math. It's just numbers.
02:21:13 I mean, I don't know. I don't know why people... I mean, how many times have you heard me over the
02:21:27 course of calling shows, me saying, "Oh, I struggle with this too. I'm not perfect in this way at all.
02:21:32 We're all down in the trenches together. You understand? I've been doing philosophy for 40
02:21:36 years." And I say to people just starting out, "I struggle with this too." Am I just like, "Oh,
02:21:40 just do what I do. It's so easy. Just so simple. Just don't do this and just do the math. Just
02:21:45 reduce this and do a little more exercise. This is simple." God, it's exploitive. It's predatory in a
02:21:53 way. Because you're insulting people's intelligence. "Well, just, you know, lower your calorie intake
02:21:58 and increase your exercise." Everybody already knows that. That's why I asked that at the
02:22:01 beginning so I could pick on the people saying the obvious. Everybody's already admitted they
02:22:05 know exactly what to do. So the answer isn't to tell them exactly what they need to do.
02:22:11 You're literally like coming across someone. They got a log. Their legs are trapped under a giant
02:22:15 log. A tree fell over. Their legs are trapped under a giant log. And they say, "Have you tried
02:22:19 lifting it?" "Yeah, I can't lift it." "Well, you should just lift it. Just lift it off your legs."
02:22:23 "No, I already told you I can't lift it." "No, no, but you should just, you know, just lift it.
02:22:28 Like, because it's stuck in your legs. If you lift it off your legs, you'll be able to get up.
02:22:35 Just lift it." You asked me at the very beginning if I could lift it. I said, "No. Why are you
02:22:41 telling me to lift it?" So everybody already told, "Have you tried not being under a log?"
02:22:45 Yeah, that's right, James. "Hey, I've got a thought. Why don't you eat less and exercise more?"
02:22:51 Oh my God. I mean, the Captain Obvious Navy is forever sailing across the
02:23:04 shallow seas of this useless planet.
02:23:07 Shop around the edges of the grocery store. Yes, try to eat this. Have you tried the carnivore diet?
02:23:18 Oh my God.
02:23:21 So this thing that you know exactly how to do that you haven't done for 20 years,
02:23:29 you should just do that thing which you haven't been able to do for 20 years.
02:23:32 Well, I don't have this problem myself, so I just don't understand why you're
02:23:36 so bent out of shape about it. Hey, if you're an alcoholic, have you tried drinking less?
02:23:40 Hey, if you're a drug addict, maybe don't take drugs?
02:23:47 Listen to people figure out what the actual barriers are. The actual barriers are
02:23:56 people don't want to expose themselves to danger by being both virtuous and attractive.
02:24:02 You follow? Because if you're attractive, more people are going to want to listen to you.
02:24:05 If more people want to listen to you, do you become more in danger?
02:24:09 Do you become more in danger when you speak the truth and you're attractive?
02:24:21 Right. So you can have the truth or you can be fit, but being both is very dangerous.
02:24:31 Do you follow? Am I happy? I don't have great hair. I am very happy. I don't have great hair.
02:24:41 If I had great hair, I'd be way more of a target.
02:24:44 So your fat or your overweight is a shield to the mob who will hunt you if they find out more
02:24:57 about you. And if you're more attractive, people will find out more about you. They'll listen to
02:25:01 you more and you'll get more blowback. So you can lose the 20 pounds if you drop 20 pounds worth of
02:25:12 my books. Do we understand how deep this goes? We do, right? We do understand how deep this goes,
02:25:22 right? You have the article warning folks, "Don't get fit. It will turn them alt-right."
02:25:29 Yeah, you understand. You don't know what your political beliefs are until you've lifted some
02:25:36 weights. Lifting weights makes you want to have a smaller government.
02:25:41 So let me ask you this. If you're a conservative female
02:25:50 and you're gorgeous, do you get more hate than if you're ugly or homely? Of course you do,
02:25:58 because you're more of a threat. You're more of a threat if you're attractive.
02:26:02 Who are you serving? Well, in a sense, you're serving your own survival. You understand this
02:26:10 is a way to survive. Because if I'm really attractive and I'm morally good, pfft, oof.
02:26:16 I have plausible deniability. Well, yes, it's true. I am a very virtuous person,
02:26:24 but I'm pudgy. So I'm not really that much of a threat. Don't worry about it.
02:26:28 I'm fine. Just let me survive. Let me live. Let me live. Let me get by. Let me pass. Let me through.
02:26:43 Yeah, they called Ann Coulter every name in the book and then some.
02:26:45 Yeah, red-headed libertarian. Tomi Lahren.
02:26:53 That Dutch girl, I can't remember her name, but it's something unpronounceable. Yeah, a lot of
02:27:02 leftists are unfit. If you look at the people, this is a note for you, Jared, the men who were
02:27:07 in charge of the French Revolution were famously ugly. So being attractive and being morally good
02:27:19 is not a good combo. It's not a good combo. So in the modern world, losing weight is like
02:27:30 ditching camouflage and fighting a flare in Vietnam. Is that why Arlo was an airhead?
02:27:37 Yeah, the Bolsheviks were trolls. Yeah, for sure.
02:27:43 Why Arlo was an airhead. But Arlo wasn't an airhead. That's the problem.
02:27:49 Arlo used his looks to distract everyone from his depth because his depth was dangerous.
02:27:57 I mean, because when he lost his status, he completely had a psychological breakdown.
02:28:05 He had no robustness because he'd coasted on his looks.
02:28:11 My wife was a savage soccer goalie and she hasn't depreciated if it wasn't for the fact
02:28:22 that I can dig ditches and literally fix anything, I'd be doomed and I love it.
02:28:26 Oh, are you one of these? I can't believe my wife is with me. She could do so much better.
02:28:31 You're not one of those guys. Are you Vince? I mean, please don't be one of those guys. That's
02:28:34 just terrible. I can't believe she's with me, man. I'm such a lucky guy. I don't know what she's
02:28:41 doing with me, man. It's just weird. But you're not, right? Please don't be that guy.
02:28:48 Okay, you're not that guy. You sounded like that guy.
02:28:52 Because your value you bring is you dig ditches, you can fix anything.
02:28:59 Okay, all right. Just wanted to check because that's an insult to your wife if it is. All right.
02:29:04 Did we answer the question of why it's tough to lose weight? Did it draw us the predators and
02:29:11 the mob and the danger? Did we get there? I mean, there's other reasons too, like your parental
02:29:16 stuff and people who want you sabotaged and people who want you to fail and people who want you to
02:29:21 lose credibility. But you understand that people gain weight to protect themselves from danger,
02:29:27 right? What's ouching, Vince? What's ouching?
02:29:35 Like, you know, women who are, men too, I suppose, who are victims of sexual abuse gain weight
02:29:43 so that they do not stay sexually attractive because sexuality has been
02:29:47 used to harm and half destroy them, right? So a lot of people who are obese are obese because
02:29:53 they were sexually abused, right? And so for them, fat wards off danger, right? So for you,
02:29:59 understand, for you, fat wards off danger. And there is a little bit of suicidality, I think,
02:30:06 or self-destruction in being significantly overweight because it's like, man, trying to
02:30:12 be a mouse at the feet of these dangerous dinosaurs is too stressful and I don't mind
02:30:16 checking out early. There's a correlation of binge eating disorders and sexual abuse of 0.3.
02:30:23 Well, that's assuming that people admit to both binge eating disorders and sexual abuse. I bet
02:30:31 you it's a lot higher, but we'll never know for sure, right? It's good for people going into
02:30:35 battle to have an extra layer of fat for protection. Well, I'm just saying we're already in battle, so.
02:30:43 So did we get a fair amount of the way towards unpacking some of the weight? Who am I serving?
02:30:49 Well, you're serving the people who want you harmed, and you're also serving your
02:30:52 own survival because of the people who want you harmed, right?
02:30:55 And also, of course, when supply chains get interrupted and all the stuff I write about
02:31:03 in my novel The Present, we may have a desire to overeat for fear of shortages in the future.
02:31:10 So I don't think anybody really promised a tip if I got good clarity on weight loss. So if you find
02:31:17 this helpful, I certainly would appreciate a tip. It's a little low tonight, but that's not too bad.
02:31:21 And two hours, 36 minutes, I've been working hard. So if you can help out, of course, if you listen
02:31:29 to this later, I would appreciate your support. freedomain.com/donate. Yeah, Vince, not a bad
02:31:35 attempt at a joke. The fact that the joke came to your mind is important, right? Don't just walk
02:31:39 away from what you said. Don't leave your actions in the lurch, right? If somebody says, "I have a
02:31:42 lot more thinking to do," that's for sure. Your weight serves someone. Your weight serves someone.
02:31:49 And you've got to figure out who that is. These are some possibilities, most likely ones in my
02:31:54 view. Also wanted to mention, boy, did I have a great call and show today. I have one of these,
02:31:58 one of my favorite. I'm not sure if you've seen it, but I have a great call and show.
02:32:03 It's one of my favorite. I can't figure it out. Well, Rachel, if you want to call in, we can talk
02:32:08 about it. I did a great call and show. It's one of these rare ones where I get, I did a call and show
02:32:13 with the wife, and then I did a call and show with the husband. So good. So good. And so it's going
02:32:21 to be a chunky one. It's over four hours, because I did over two hours with her and then two hours,
02:32:25 over two hours with him. And one of these two views of the same thing is really wild. It's
02:32:30 really cool. So I will get that out, certainly to donors over the next day or two. And then
02:32:35 generally, I just, you know, I'm so thankful to the people who support the show that I'm just
02:32:42 going to give you guys pretty much advance on everything. I mean, I hope that you listened to
02:32:45 the woman whose son wanted her to call in. I thought that was really great. I call a bit
02:32:49 particularly about men and women. So I appreciate you guys dropping by tonight, freedomain.com/donate
02:32:57 if you would like to help out. I'm just going to wait for a second in case I don't want to
02:33:00 interrupt it if there's some little tippy tips coming in here and there.
02:33:03 So the mom call in was great. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:33:07 Why did you ask the mom in that recent call in about how she parented? I'm sorry, I don't really
02:33:15 remember that too well. But if you can think of, give me a, why didn't you ask the mom of the
02:33:20 recent call in about how she parented? I'm dealing with the issues as they come up and trying to make
02:33:26 as much progress with somebody who hadn't really listened to the show. So you can't go. That's why
02:33:29 I ask people a lot of times, how long have you listened? So I can figure out if, how fast I can
02:33:34 go with them, right? So this is why I ask you guys, are you ready for something that hurts, right?
02:33:38 Tim, thank you very much. Love you too. Thank you for all of the great comments and advice and
02:33:44 feedback and tips and videos that you send. They're fantastic. Talk was great. This weight
02:33:49 gain thing is observable. I hope so. And just see how you feel with regard, when you get to the
02:33:53 bottom of this, you will stop wanting food as much and you'll be more liberated to exercise.
02:34:00 There's someone in your head telling you not to exercise and it's not you because it benefits you.
02:34:04 There's someone in your head telling you not to exercise. There's someone in your head telling
02:34:08 you to overeat. You're serving someone. You're serving someone. You've got to unpack who that is.
02:34:12 You're trying to protect yourself from someone by appeasing them, right? If you lose weight and
02:34:17 your parents are overweight, they'll get mad at you because you're doing what they haven't.
02:34:22 So if you get married and your sister is bitter and lonely, she's going to be resentful and it's
02:34:28 going to impact your thoughts in your head. Thank you very much, Carlos. I really, really
02:34:36 appreciate that. And I hope you will check out. Oh yeah. Yeah. I hope you will check out. I've
02:34:41 got so many call-ins. I've been so many call-ins, but I hope we will check out the one that I
02:34:46 published with the husband and the wife. It was really, really a great, great show. All right.
02:34:49 Thanks everyone so much for your time and attention this evening. Lots of love for you.
02:34:53 I'm sorry. I, for some reason, I hit the start record button on the camera, but it didn't work.
02:34:58 So I'll just have, for most of it, I'll have to use the recording on Locals, which is not super
02:35:02 great, but no, no biggie. Have yourself a wonderful night. freedomain.com/donate to help
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