Kane Williamson's New Zealand were "shattered" after a heartbreaking loss to England in the Cricket World Cup final but the Black Caps skipper remained magnanimous in defeat. The tournament hosts lifted the trophy for the first time at Lord's after Sunday's epic final was decided by the finest of margins. New Zealand posted 241-8 having opted to bat, and the scores were level at the conclusion of the chase, Ben Stokes making 84 not out while Mark Wood was run out coming back for a second off the final ball that would have secured victory for England. Stokes and Jos Buttler plundered 15 from the Super Over and New Zealand matched that tally – Martin Guptill short of his ground in trying to pick up a two off the last delivery as the home side prevailed due to their superior number of boundaries. (Video: ICC)
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00:00 You know the guys put in a huge amount of work to get this opportunity to come here
00:11 and play in another World Cup final and to pretty much do all you could and still not
00:18 perhaps get across the line with some small margins and I think throughout this whole
00:24 campaign and a lot of my press conferences I've spoken about uncontrollables and there
00:28 was a couple today that were pretty hard to swallow but once again take nothing away from
00:35 England's campaign not just this match but throughout all the cricket that they've played
00:40 the deserved win is I think either side walking away with the title today probably feels fortunate
00:47 having it sort of go down to obviously a tie after regular time and then I think another
00:54 one wasn't it after six more balls so yeah one of those things eh.
00:59 When you put 241 on what was your target you've been pretty good at predicting what
01:07 pitchers score should be.
01:09 Yeah we sort of wanted 250 260 we knew that it wasn't easy and we were expecting it to
01:19 dry a little bit more and it did do that and I think we saw in the first sort of 10 overs
01:26 the movement that we were able to get and we were able to pick up those early wickets
01:30 and I think that was due to the pitch and the bowlers putting the ball in great areas
01:36 which have done all tournament.
01:39 Yeah I mean it's very difficult to I suppose look at one or two areas when the margin is
01:45 so small and you could look at anything but yeah I think the thing you walk away with
01:50 is the amount of heart and the amount of fight that the guys have shown throughout this whole
01:54 campaign but probably none more than the match that we've just witnessed and you know both
02:00 sides showed that today and it did come down to I don't know how they won it what was it
02:06 boundaries or something but you know someone had to walk away with the title and we're
02:13 gutted that it's not us but England had a very good campaign and they deserve the victory.
02:17 I know it's fresh but the boundary count back as you kind of just alluded to there is that
02:22 a fair way of deciding a World Cup final?
02:27 I suppose you never thought you'd have to ask that question and I never thought I'd
02:30 have to answer it.
02:32 Yeah look while the emotions are raw it is pretty hard to swallow when you know two teams
02:39 have worked really really hard to get to this moment in time and you know when sort of two
02:48 attempts to separate them with a winner and a loser still didn't perhaps sort of shine
02:55 with one side coming through you know it just is what it is really the rules are there at
02:59 the start no one probably thought that we'd have to sort of result to some of that stuff
03:04 but yeah very tough to swallow obviously a great game of cricket and I think all you
03:09 guys probably enjoyed it as to everyone else I think they're still here they want more
03:13 but we're looking forward to putting our feet up now and having a bit of a chat and a reflection
03:18 about our campaign.
03:19 Again before the start of the match did you guys actually plan for a super over strategy
03:27 before the start of the match because you could have probably come out marking up till
03:31 Watson in the greatest of forms that in the tournament so what was the strategy before
03:37 the match did you guys actually plan for a super over?
03:39 But he's such a fast runner and that's all he had to do and he just was short by a little
03:43 bit so unfortunately it didn't happen yeah we didn't really do a lot of super over practice
03:52 but at the same time it's cricket and guys do work on hitting the ball out of the park
03:56 and that's all that was required yeah and we tied that too didn't we so it was yeah
04:04 one of those days.
04:05 Kane is it any consolation that people who watch this game will remember the black caps
04:13 for two moments of outstanding sportsmanship one when you signalled that Trent Bollard
04:19 stood on the rope so it wasn't a six when you were that close to dismissing Ben Stokes
04:27 those things are remembered by spectators.
04:32 Yeah I suppose we've just finished the game haven't we so whether people talk about it
04:38 in years to come we'll have to find out but you know it was a fantastic game to be a part
04:43 of it is quite hard to look at it at the whole match sort of in a rational way when you know
04:49 we've just sort of been through what we've been through but judging by the people that
04:53 are still hanging around and the support that was there long after the match had finished
04:57 clearly it was a great spectacle for everybody.
04:59 You mentioned the uncontrollable was another one was when the ball hit Ben Stokes' butt
05:06 what were you thinking I guess no hard feelings or do you think maybe the rule could change?
05:16 The rule has been there for a long time I don't think it's I don't think anything like
05:22 that's happened has it where you now question it but look it you can't sort of look at that
05:30 and think that perhaps that decided the match there was so many other bits and pieces to
05:34 that game that were so important when it comes down to a tie you start looking at every single
05:41 delivery don't you but it was a pretty tough pill to swallow that when yeah when we're
05:48 looking pretty likely with Trent bowling really really well so one of those things.
05:55 A final like this you know which sort of thrilled us till the end how does it raise the profile
06:03 of the sport it was followed so widely across the world and it kept getting more and more
06:09 yeah you mean it's everybody loved it English loved it more than we did I think but yeah
06:17 no it was a brilliant game of cricket always always a little bit better when you're on
06:22 the right side of the result but you know hopefully as a side and I think the English
06:28 side would feel the same that you do play this game to help grow the game and hopefully
06:34 the sport sort of grows in your country and people start enjoying or perhaps attracting
06:40 new viewers and that's always a really important part to what you do and you know hopefully
06:46 that achieves something like that today but you know it's sort of pretty hard to consider
06:51 those things right at this point in time when you're still reeling a little bit from some
06:56 small margins but naturally a great game of cricket and yeah I think everybody watched
07:01 I think really appreciated it.
07:03 Usually if you lose a World Cup final there would be some sorrow and also disappointment
07:10 and probably anger or something that you mistake you've done like last or the four years back
07:15 in this scenario what could be sad about what you could be angry about you just you know
07:21 how do you react what do you take away from this sort of an ending and just be happy apart
07:26 from just laughing at it what else can you do?
07:29 Laugh or cry it's your choice isn't it?
07:33 It's not anger there's a lot of disappointment I suppose yeah the guys are really feeling
07:40 it and I think it's probably more down to some of the uncontrollables that go on where
07:46 they put in such a huge amount of effort and we know in this game it can be fickle in its
07:51 nature and there are parts that as hard as you try sometimes those cards don't fool your
07:58 way and you know today at Eddon Float but the guys stuck with it beautifully well and
08:05 they showed that heart and that fight that we've shown throughout this whole campaign
08:08 to get us into winning positions and we saw that again today and I think we sort of you
08:14 know after perhaps 85 90 percent of that second innings we had our noses in front and yeah
08:22 no doubt a lot of thoughts are going well certainly through my mind but obviously through
08:26 all the other players as well where you know could have been this could have been that
08:31 but it is what it is.
08:35 Same number of runs in the innings and same number of runs in the overs so do you say
08:40 that it is the rule that beat you or what do you conclude that way?
08:49 The rules are there I guess aren't they and certainly something you don't consider going
08:53 into the match that maybe if we could hit an extra boundary and then tie two attempts
08:58 at winning it then we'll get across the line and they didn't think that either I don't
09:03 even know what the boundary count was but obviously we were slightly behind yeah very
09:09 very tough to yeah there you go.
09:15 Kane I know we're harping back to different moments but the first ball of England's innings
09:20 obviously you get Jason Roy on the pads and do you understand looking at that review how
09:24 it wasn't overturned and given out firstly and secondly do you think that makes a difference
09:29 obviously if you knock over a wicked first ball probably does?
09:34 Yeah I think once again you know it's similar stuff when you come down to a tie at the end
09:42 of 50 overs each you have small margins like that you have other sort of human decisions
09:50 that can go one way or another and that is just part and parcel of the sport guys moved
09:56 on from that and a number of other parts in that match that would have been nice if they
10:02 snuck our way but you know you do get moments go your way as well at different stages and
10:07 you do move on and you don't let it distract you and I think that's probably the more positive
10:11 part to that scenario in particular and a number of other parts to it as well where
10:15 obviously we speak about the last few overs but the guys moved on from that you know applied
10:23 themselves well in that the sixth ball game but yeah obviously not quite enough.
10:30 Kane I'm sure most New Zealanders are going to bed now after being up all night how much
10:35 have you been aware of the impact that the team have had back home and what sort of legacy
10:39 do you sort of hope that this World Cup run would have for cricket in New Zealand?
10:46 I have heard that a lot of people are enjoying it I haven't had a huge amount of contact
10:54 or you know from back home and I suppose being in another country and every game very much
11:01 felt like an away match obviously being a slightly smaller country than a few others
11:06 but yeah it's great isn't it when sport can have an impact on a country and I think the
11:14 way you apply it and obviously getting into different stages of a tournament and it attracts
11:18 a little bit of attention and you know we can only hope that the people back home enjoyed
11:23 what we were able to achieve and hopefully the way that we played the game and I just
11:29 hope that there was that enjoyment and perhaps a few kids might start playing a little bit
11:34 of cricket and all these sorts of things so we'll have to wait and see when we head back
11:39 and hopefully there's a bit of interest there.
11:44 Kane it was obviously a day that was hard to take but it was a day that you were also
11:49 named player of the tournament from both a batting and a captaincy perspective how much
11:53 pride can you take of that and how pleased are you with your own individual performances
11:57 on both facets throughout the tournament?
12:03 An individual performance is only a contribution to something greater than yourself and that's
12:10 the team and so the idea is that you're helping your team get across the line and the only
12:16 thing that you can perhaps think of at this point in time is what more I could have done
12:21 or you know your mate next year and when the margin is so small and I think all the guys
12:28 within our sides should take a lot of pride in what they've been able to achieve throughout
12:33 this whole campaign and individual accolades are very much secondary to the efforts that
12:41 everybody within the whole squad, support staff as well, we're all putting into the
12:47 bucket and I think that was huge in us getting the opportunity to be here in the final and
12:53 playing some really really competitive cricket in this final as well so that is always the
12:58 focus.
12:59 Cain, hi, you've used a few different phrases, the uncontrollables and thin margins.
13:07 Dogs as well.
13:08 Sorry?
13:09 Dogs, I've used dogs.
13:10 Stop, on this particular one, would you agree that one way of looking at it is just down
13:15 to luck that you're not sitting there as a world cup winning captain today especially
13:18 with what happened with Guptill's throw, Hidstow's spat, went off for, is it just luck that you're
13:26 not?
13:27 I guess it's uncontrollables I suppose mean that you can't control them can you so it's
13:35 up to someone else I don't know.
13:38 Yeah I guess there's a little bit of that at times isn't there in the game that we play
13:42 where there are so many variables whether it's the surface, the opposition, any sort
13:49 of condition that can have an influence but that's why the game is so great as well I
13:53 think is that it can be on any given day anything can happen there's not much constant about
14:02 it and we saw that in this match and a lot of other matches as well.
14:06 Just last one over here.
14:07 I asked this question standing because my respect for you, the way you have conducted,
14:13 you have won an individual award also but do you think the cricketers, the competition,
14:19 is you're happy or you should, everybody wants to be like gentlemen like you?
14:28 Everybody they're allowed to be themselves that's I think that's a good thing about the
14:32 world and everybody should be a little bit different as well and very difficult question
14:40 to answer that's probably my best answer is just be yourself and try and enjoy what you
14:47 do.
14:48 Thanks very much guys.
14:50 Thanks.
14:51 Bye.
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