SI Fan All Dolphins publisher Alain Poupart and columnist Omar Kelly break down everything that happened during the first practice of the 2023 training camp, including the players who stood out, those who didn't, and the biggest storylines of the day.
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00:00 - Hi everyone, welcome to Training Camp 2023 Miami Dolphins
00:05 day one recap.
00:09 - Day one.
00:10 - Day one, practice one.
00:11 Well, are we counting?
00:13 - It's actually day two.
00:14 It's actually day two practice.
00:16 - Okay.
00:17 Now we have to start over again.
00:19 Take two.
00:20 Welcome to the Wednesday, July 26th
00:23 Training Camp recap episode on YouTube,
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00:30 on the Miami Dolphins, et cetera.
00:31 Is that better Omar?
00:33 - It's about all dolphins.
00:36 - There you go.
00:36 - Me and Pupard watching practice, diagnosing what we see.
00:41 What, what, what, give me, give me a grade you would give
00:46 of today's practice.
00:48 First day.
00:50 - First practice of training camp.
00:52 There wasn't anything outrageously sloppy.
00:55 I didn't see false starts all over the place.
00:56 A couple of drop passes, probably too many for my taste.
01:00 Bob B minus, C plus maybe.
01:04 - That's a fair grade.
01:05 No turnovers, which is always,
01:06 you when you have no turnovers for me.
01:08 - There was a fumble on the last play of practice.
01:10 - Oh, there was a fumble.
01:12 River Craycraft, I believe.
01:14 - Yep, and Aubrey Miller Jr.
01:15 The rookie linebacker from Jackson State.
01:17 The one who picked it up.
01:18 - Yeah.
01:19 All those dolphin fans who are out there
01:21 excited about the undrafted players.
01:23 Woo, Aubrey Miller made a play.
01:25 - There you go.
01:26 You know who didn't make a play?
01:27 Actually, before I continue,
01:29 very, very important note to our listeners and all that,
01:32 and the readers on alldolphins.com
01:33 that they need to understand Miami Dolphin rules
01:37 dictate that there are certain things
01:38 we are not allowed to divulge.
01:41 For example, players at specific positions
01:44 who plays on the first team, who plays on the second team.
01:46 So we're gonna, we try to tap down,
01:48 surround it as much as we can.
01:49 We try to be as informative as we can,
01:52 but understand that there are some rules.
01:54 You know what rookie free agent that we didn't notice?
01:55 - And I follow rules so well.
01:57 (laughing)
02:00 - That now, that's funny.
02:01 That is funny.
02:02 Yeah, the one rookie free agent
02:05 that we didn't feel a whole lot today,
02:07 although you said you saw him in the backfield once.
02:09 I didn't.
02:10 The one play I noticed from him,
02:11 I'm talking about Mitchell Lagudé.
02:13 The one play I noticed from him
02:14 was he badly bit on a naked bootleg fake.
02:17 And I mean, badly bit.
02:19 I mean, he was going straight down the line to the left
02:22 and the quarterback was 10 yards in the other direction.
02:25 - Hey, he's a rookie.
02:26 He's gonna make those mistakes.
02:27 - That is true.
02:28 - I did see him.
02:30 He, it was another impressive block by,
02:34 I think it was a Daron Christensen.
02:37 That's where I noticed.
02:38 - Christian, you're keeping--
02:39 - Christian.
02:40 - You keep messing that guy's name.
02:41 - I got, give me some time.
02:42 Give me some time.
02:43 - Okay, okay.
02:44 - Yeah, but I'm not looking for him on topaz come on.
02:48 And you know why I'm not looking for him
02:50 from topaz come on,
02:51 because he seems to be one of those guys
02:54 like Sivan Ahmed, no,
02:57 and that flash when there are not pads.
03:01 And my hope is that he doesn't disappear
03:03 when they're not pads.
03:04 Sivan Ahmed, and I hate to say this,
03:06 he was one of my top performers from day one.
03:10 If we had told Dolphin fans
03:14 that Devon A-chain was making the play
03:16 Sivan Ahmed was making,
03:18 he'd be name a starter by tomorrow.
03:20 - And here's the other,
03:22 the all important question.
03:23 Every time he carried the ball,
03:26 did you think it was Sivan Ahmed
03:27 or did you think--
03:28 - I absolutely, without a doubt,
03:30 unequivocally thought it was Sivan Ahmed.
03:32 I mean, he thought it was Devon A-chain.
03:34 - See, there you go.
03:35 And for me, I have the binoculars onto the field to look
03:38 and then I see the six,
03:39 okay, it's Sivan Ahmed and not A-chain.
03:41 They look, I'm gonna repeat it.
03:43 They look the same.
03:45 They have the same body type.
03:47 - Same style. - Same way.
03:49 - Yep.
03:50 I absolutely, every single time,
03:52 I'm struggling to figure out which one was it.
03:54 They move the same.
03:55 They move very similar.
03:57 - They do.
03:57 - Quick point about Aguday,
04:01 I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off.
04:02 A quick point about Aguday,
04:03 and I understand, no, he's not gonna flash every practice,
04:05 but he's a rookie free agent
04:07 at a position where the Dolphins have depth.
04:09 So he cannot afford to have a lot of those days
04:11 where it's building up, it's building up.
04:13 He needs to get noticed on a regular basis.
04:16 I mean, right now, tentatively, he's on my practice squad.
04:21 He's gotta dominate in the exhibition season
04:24 to actually intrigue the Dolphins to say,
04:28 we gotta keep him.
04:29 So I'm not worried about it right now, right now.
04:33 I mean, it would be great for him to continue to play.
04:36 I already learned his name.
04:38 Tell me the last time I learned an undrafted player's name
04:40 and number before we even began training camp.
04:43 I don't even pay attention to him.
04:45 So props to him.
04:47 But as I said, he's got that Sivan Ahmed disease
04:51 where I hope he doesn't,
04:54 where he disappears when pad comes on.
04:56 I wanna see when pads come on,
04:57 is this guy still gonna flash?
04:59 - Okay.
05:00 Can I give you another rookie?
05:02 Like a couple of guys who stood out to me.
05:05 One of them is a rookie, Cam Smith.
05:06 And I liked him in the off season.
05:09 I liked him again today.
05:10 He had a nice, he had a play where he had
05:12 really good coverage on Jalen Waddell.
05:14 I don't remember who threw the pass.
05:15 It wasn't two, it was either Mike White or Skylar Thompson.
05:18 And it was Mike White who was overthrown over the middle,
05:20 but the coverage was good.
05:21 And he had another play on the outside
05:23 when he was covering Braylon Sanders,
05:25 where he broke on the ball first.
05:26 Might've had a pick if not for Braylon Sanders
05:29 turning DB and breaking it up.
05:30 And that guy, like I said,
05:32 he caught my eye throughout the off season.
05:34 That kid can cover.
05:35 - He gets a deflection.
05:36 He gets deflections.
05:38 I don't think we've seen him pull down an interception,
05:41 but I don't need them.
05:43 I do need, if you get me two pass deflections a game,
05:47 that's two incompletions.
05:48 I love it.
05:49 He was definitely one of the top performers.
05:53 Probably did not make my top performer list,
05:56 but you know who did make my top performer list?
05:58 - Alec Engeld.
05:59 - Yes, he did, but that's not who I'm talking about.
06:03 You know, we both watch practice differently.
06:07 And the reason why I think we work well together
06:10 and have for years is because plays for me
06:13 start at the line of scrimmage.
06:15 I don't pay attention to the ball.
06:17 I can't even tell you who's at quarterback
06:20 because I'm watching the line of scrimmage.
06:21 That's always been my focus.
06:23 I take my eyes off the ball.
06:25 So when you sit there and you say,
06:27 "That's a great completion."
06:28 I'll tell you, no, that would have been a sack
06:29 by Jalen Phillips because this guy
06:32 just absolutely dominated him.
06:35 And today I was thoroughly impressed
06:38 by what I saw from, what's the name?
06:43 - Kendall Lamb.
06:43 - Kendall Lamb.
06:44 I know he finished the season as a starter
06:49 out of emergency situations.
06:52 And I believe he started-
06:54 - He got hurt.
06:54 He started a game and he wound up on IR.
06:56 He like, hurt his ankle.
06:59 - I didn't see him or notice him once during training,
07:04 during mini camp, not once.
07:07 Today, can't tell you where he lined up.
07:10 I mean-
07:11 - We can't.
07:13 Can't say it.
07:13 He lined up on the offensive line.
07:16 - Yes, he lined up on the offensive line
07:19 at one of the positions of need and he's a tackle.
07:22 So obviously he lined up as a tackle.
07:25 He's listed as a tackle.
07:26 I don't think I'm telling you any state secrets
07:28 to tell you he played tackle.
07:30 But if you would have told me that he was a starter
07:33 for the Miami Dolphins, I would have said,
07:35 "Okay, big guy, about 340.
07:40 I don't know what he's listed at,
07:41 but I usually said 310.
07:43 He ain't 310.
07:44 I can tell you that right now."
07:46 Big guy, very hard to get around.
07:52 They aren't in pads, but Jaylen Fields couldn't power him
07:55 and neither could Bradley Chubb.
08:00 And I was like, "Hmm, there's something here."
08:03 Footwork was very decent, solid.
08:07 And I get it.
08:08 He hasn't probably played football in five weeks.
08:10 Very fresh.
08:12 Let's check back in two weeks from now.
08:14 But I was like, I've said from the very beginning,
08:20 I need somebody to raise their hand and say,
08:22 "I want this backup tackle job.
08:25 I wanna be the guy who holds it down
08:28 till Teron Armstead is clear to play.
08:32 This is my job."
08:33 And even Mike McDaniel said,
08:35 "Isaiah Wynn and Teron Armstead being on PUP
08:39 and being sidelined is going to create some clarity
08:43 for him about what we have here."
08:47 And if you look at the Dolphins situation last year,
08:50 they went into the year with crap at backup
08:53 and had to just add a whole bunch of guys
08:55 'cause they had crap at backup
08:57 and they knew they had crap at backup.
09:00 - And they also had a lot of injuries,
09:01 if we're gonna be fair.
09:02 But yeah, their backup situation wasn't ideal.
09:05 No, I agree.
09:05 That's a fair point.
09:07 And so now we have some ability to clarify
09:10 what the backup situation looks like.
09:12 I've already said from the jump that they added,
09:16 I believe it was 158 starts to the team
09:18 in backup players from Feeney, Wynn, Cedric O, Lam,
09:23 28 games, I believe he started in the NFL.
09:29 He's an eight-year veteran, so he's not young.
09:31 But I love what I'm seeing so far.
09:36 You see a whole bunch of young guys who are not young,
09:39 a whole bunch of young backups
09:41 who are at the desperate level where they're like,
09:44 "Hey, if I don't get this done here, my career is over.
09:46 I might as well start selling real estate."
09:49 And from day one, I kind of said to myself,
09:54 "Kendall Lam knows what this opportunity is
09:57 and it might be his last."
09:59 - And he's a guy who's got enough experience
10:02 to where I think both you and I maybe have been guilty
10:05 of assuming Isaiah Wynn's gonna be the swing backup tackle
10:09 no matter what.
10:10 He's gotta beat out Kendall Lam.
10:13 Again, Kendall Lam, like you said,
10:15 has been around a bit.
10:16 He's got some starting experience.
10:17 So, I mean, he's a capable backup NFL offensive lineman.
10:23 And if he outplays Isaiah Wynn,
10:26 it's not just because Isaiah Wynn's a former first-round pick
10:28 that the Dolphins are gonna keep him.
10:30 Let's move on.
10:31 Just to make sure that we don't wind up
10:35 killing all the time and wind up having to
10:37 either rush it at the end or even, God forbid, not include it.
10:42 We have to talk about the quarterbacks
10:43 because that's what everybody wants to know about.
10:46 As you shake, as you roll your eyes a little bit,
10:48 so your thoughts on what you saw from Tua today.
10:52 - Solid day.
10:52 - Other than the tattoo on his right arm.
10:55 - Impressive tattoo.
10:57 Two and a half days worth of work.
10:58 I've done my share of tattoos and that's a lot of tattoo.
11:03 That's a lot of ink.
11:04 That's a lot of poison you're putting into your body.
11:07 It has a tribal benefit.
11:09 It has a Polynesian origin to it,
11:14 which means a lot to him.
11:17 You know he represents his Polynesian community
11:20 and Samoan community to the utmost.
11:23 So I'm glad that we finally got the reveal
11:27 and he was very proud of it.
11:28 I evaluate quarterbacks
11:31 and let's put this right on the front street.
11:34 - Go ahead.
11:35 - One, just so for those who are new to me
11:38 or don't know how I do things.
11:40 One, I'm harsher on quarterbacks
11:42 than I am on any other position.
11:45 If you have a turnover as a quarterback,
11:47 you are absolutely disqualified
11:50 from being top performer of the day.
11:52 I don't care if you throw seven touchdowns.
11:54 If you have one interception,
11:55 because interceptions are the number one determining factor
11:59 about who wins and loses games.
12:01 Am I incorrect there, Poop?
12:03 - Turnovers.
12:04 - Usually.
12:05 - I mean turnovers, yes.
12:06 - Usually, you can win while still losing
12:11 the turnover battle,
12:12 but yeah, it's usually a good determining factor.
12:15 But hey, there's no interceptions today,
12:17 so that doesn't apply.
12:18 - No interceptions today.
12:19 One pretty pass by Tua.
12:21 And I'm laughing because the Dolphins video,
12:24 and I'm just gonna put this there because I'm transparent.
12:27 While everybody who watched it in person
12:30 will say that the ball was a wobbler,
12:33 the Dolphins video,
12:34 because it was sped up just at the right times,
12:37 makes it look like it was a absolute dime.
12:42 It was a dime.
12:43 - So it's a pretty pass on social media, not in reality.
12:47 Is that what you're saying?
12:48 - It was an ugly pass in person,
12:50 a beautiful pass on social media,
12:53 which I gotta applaud the editing team
12:56 of the Miami Dolphins organization,
12:58 because they have certainly learned from last season
13:02 and their editing skills are phenomenal
13:05 because that pass to Jalen Waddell
13:10 was a dime on social media.
13:13 - On social media, yeah.
13:14 But it was a great play by Jalen Waddell.
13:17 If you recall the play,
13:18 Javon Holland got his hand in there,
13:19 the ball bounced up in the air, bobbled,
13:21 and Waddell kept his concentration
13:23 and came down with it for what, 40, 45 yards.
13:26 For me, I thought he was fine, nothing spectacular.
13:29 His best work to me came on a seven on seven
13:31 where he threw a pass down the seam
13:34 at the numbers to Jalen Waddell,
13:35 which is one of the throws that he throws very well.
13:38 Outside of that, there was,
13:40 didn't stand out one way or the other.
13:42 And the same goes for all three quarterbacks.
13:44 I mean, Scholar was fine, Mike White was fine.
13:46 Nothing really noteworthy.
13:49 - I don't think he wasn't phenomenal.
13:50 He wasn't on fire.
13:51 He didn't commit any turnovers.
13:53 Neither did any of the other guys.
13:55 The one thing I will say is that this,
13:57 will you say that this is a legit competition
13:59 for number two?
14:01 - Again, I still think they went out
14:03 and signed Mike White to be the number two guy.
14:05 - Yeah.
14:06 - And again, as you mentioned,
14:08 pointed out from our peers in Dallas and the Jets,
14:12 Mike White is not an impressive practice player.
14:14 And we saw that again today.
14:16 There's not a whole lot of zip on the ball.
14:18 We're gonna be honest.
14:19 He had one throw down the field,
14:21 maybe 20 yards to Braxton Berrios,
14:23 where Berrios was pretty open.
14:25 And he forced, no, he forced Berrios to come in
14:27 and he forced, no, he forced Berrios
14:30 to basically go down to the ground to scoop it up.
14:33 - And sometimes it's, I didn't say that it was a bad pass.
14:36 Maybe he threw that there to protect his receiver.
14:39 - I thought you said good throw.
14:40 It wasn't a good throw.
14:41 He didn't.
14:42 - It was a good throw.
14:43 - Berrios had enough of an umbrella where he didn't,
14:45 he didn't have to go to the ground to make the catch.
14:47 - I'm not throwing to my slot receiver inside the seams
14:52 without telling, basically, that's a get down pass.
14:55 I'm not saying he intentionally made it a get down pass,
14:58 but come on, everybody's not Jarvis Landry.
15:02 Braxton Berrios can be put out the game.
15:04 - I understand that.
15:05 And number one, it's practice.
15:07 Number two, again, to me, there was enough cushion where,
15:10 and I understand that there are times
15:11 when you need to do that to protect your receiver.
15:13 Absolutely.
15:14 And to prevent the incompletion as well, the tip pass.
15:16 That one wasn't one of those.
15:19 I'm not gonna give Mike White a pass on that one.
15:21 But again, he wasn't terrible.
15:22 He wasn't great.
15:23 - Same with Skylar Thompson,
15:25 who still shows the best arm in camp,
15:27 even though I don't think Skylar Thompson,
15:29 are we gonna argue that Skylar Thompson
15:33 has the best arm among the quarterbacks in camp?
15:35 That's a point of debate?
15:37 - It's, yes.
15:38 I'm not gonna let you just point to it like that.
15:39 - That's a point of debate?
15:40 Who has the better arm?
15:42 - They're both not good in terms of arm strength,
15:47 caliber, quality, but there isn't a pass
15:51 that Skylar can throw that Tua can't throw.
15:54 - That's not the discussion we're having.
15:57 Are you gonna-
15:58 - You're putting Skylar's arm ahead of Tua's arm?
16:00 - Of course.
16:02 - No.
16:03 - I don't think there's a question
16:04 Skylar Thompson's got a better arm than Tua.
16:06 - Cannot allow it.
16:07 - Okay. - Will not allow it.
16:08 - Tua, number 82 player on the NFL's top 100 list,
16:11 I would like to point out because I love Tua
16:13 and I don't want, certainly don't want to have
16:15 any suggestion that that's not the case.
16:18 I just happen to think, my opinion,
16:20 I happen to think Skylar Thompson has a better arm.
16:22 - It can be debated.
16:24 There is, it's a two-man competition,
16:26 but I'm not gonna put, listen.
16:29 - Okay.
16:30 - I can't do it.
16:31 Skylar's gonna have to deliver more deep plays
16:35 than what we've seen so far in his career.
16:38 For me to even enter the-
16:40 - Arm strength has nothing to do with delivering big plays.
16:43 As you watch, what are your eyeballs telling you?
16:46 - Does he throw a, does he throw a,
16:48 can he throw to Tyreek and,
16:50 'cause everybody's all upset that Tua can't,
16:52 won't throw to Tyreek and put all this air under the ball.
16:55 Lead Tyreek.
16:56 Like, Tyreek, I don't know if Skylar could do that either.
17:01 - That's not, but again, to me, that's not the gauge.
17:03 To me, my eyeballs tell me it's not even close
17:06 the way the ball comes out.
17:07 It's got more, that's great.
17:08 Let's move on.
17:09 You talk about Tyreek, I will tell you one thing.
17:13 - He didn't have a good practice.
17:15 - Neither did, Waddle, other than the one catch
17:17 that he made, Waddle also had a drop.
17:19 Tyreek had a drop.
17:21 He also had-
17:22 - Did Waddle have a breakup or a drop?
17:23 - No, he had a clear drop.
17:25 - Okay.
17:26 - And he had a play where X was covering him.
17:28 We wanted to see X versus Tyreek or Waddle
17:31 and Jalen Ramsey, vice versa.
17:33 We saw one play where X was on Hill
17:35 and this was a throw where it took a while
17:37 for the ball to get there, if you recall.
17:40 Again, I, oh, I love it that when we're actually
17:42 watching practice, you're looking at me like,
17:44 yeah, that took a while to get there.
17:45 And now I point it out and you're like, what, what?
17:48 I don't know, what's he talking about?
17:49 - Why you gotta bring it up like that though?
17:51 - Because it's a fact.
17:52 But it was a good play, it was a good play
17:55 by X to break up the pass.
17:56 - It was a great play by X.
17:58 I mean, defenders get paid to break up balls too.
18:00 - But had the ball gotten there earlier,
18:04 that's a good point. - Was that the one
18:05 that Tyreek punted?
18:07 - I know, I didn't pick up on him punting.
18:10 I missed that one.
18:11 - No, okay, then there was another one.
18:12 He had an actual drop that he punted.
18:14 - Yes, he had, no, he had an actual drop.
18:15 It was a little, maybe a little bit low.
18:17 I can't remember who threw the ball.
18:18 It wasn't Tua.
18:20 So it was obviously Tommy.
18:21 It wasn't James Blackmon.
18:22 - When it's not Tua, you certainly remember who,
18:25 you don't remember who it was.
18:27 - Well, because Tua's QB1,
18:30 obviously it's more significant.
18:31 - Yes.
18:32 - Practice is more significant than QB2 or--
18:34 - Half the time, I don't know who's even back there
18:36 at quarterback, so don't even--
18:37 - Well, see, I'm, no, I'm not gonna say I'm a ball watcher,
18:40 but to make your point, since you brought up
18:42 what you watch, what I watch is,
18:44 I stick with the offensive line or the trenches
18:46 as long as I can on pass plays.
18:49 And then when I see the ball go out,
18:52 then I move away from the trenches
18:55 and then see, you know, how that, the play happens.
18:58 And what the, it's the end result,
19:00 the interaction between the DB and the receiver.
19:03 But I don't fixate on the offensive line the way you do.
19:06 You're a trench guy.
19:07 I'm more of a ball watcher.
19:09 - So--
19:10 - Trenches allows me to see the defense,
19:11 allows me to see who's collapsing the pocket,
19:13 allows me to see the activity,
19:15 allows me to see who can have the,
19:16 who can handle single blocks,
19:18 who's collapsing the pocket.
19:19 I love it.
19:21 Anyway, that's, that's--
19:22 - No, correct.
19:23 And like I said, I try to do it.
19:25 And generally speaking,
19:27 if somebody gets beat quickly off the snap,
19:29 I'll pick it up, but we digress.
19:32 I know your friend, Robby Chosen,
19:36 didn't do a whole lot today, very, very quiet.
19:38 - Did he really practice?
19:40 I saw him in there a couple of times.
19:42 - You know what, I don't recall even noticing him
19:44 on the field during--
19:45 - I saw him one time.
19:47 And, I mean, it's early.
19:49 I don't, you know, Cedric Wilson caught passes,
19:54 caught a pass or maybe two.
19:56 - So did Eric Gazzutama.
19:58 - Eric Gazzutama.
19:59 We had Braxton Berrios, who I think,
20:02 Mike White's gonna need Braxton Berrios.
20:04 I just, I just think you're doing him a disservice
20:08 if you don't give him his receiver.
20:11 And I know every,
20:12 what I found very interesting about the offense
20:13 is everybody is rotating with everybody.
20:16 And that was a little bit weird to see on day one.
20:21 And I get it.
20:23 You're probably just trying to help everybody
20:24 get their legs under them.
20:26 But, you know, two is working with everybody.
20:29 Mike White's working with everybody.
20:31 So is Skyler Thompson.
20:34 Now, and the same thing with defense.
20:38 You saw guys mixing in and matching in,
20:40 and you're like, okay, what unit is this?
20:42 It's kind of very difficult to tell
20:44 and determine what units you were watching.
20:47 - Yep.
20:48 Since we're going jumping from-
20:50 - They're trying to confuse us.
20:52 - Correct.
20:55 Jumping from position to position.
20:56 Not a whole lot of action from the tight ends.
20:58 Not exactly shocking.
20:59 - No, I did see Scott.
21:00 I did see Tyler Croft.
21:03 Tyler Croft.
21:04 - He saw him on a good block.
21:05 We also saw Julian Hill drop a pass,
21:06 a rookie tight end, the rookie free agent.
21:08 - I don't even know his name.
21:10 - Wow, man.
21:12 I'm not going to learn your name
21:13 until you start making plays.
21:14 - No respect for the UDFAs.
21:16 - None.
21:18 - No, that's fair.
21:19 - When you make plays, I'll learn your number.
21:23 And then after I learn your number, I'll learn your name.
21:26 Like-
21:27 - That's fair.
21:29 - That's just how it's generally worked.
21:31 And there's no need for me to learn your number
21:34 if you don't make plays.
21:35 Like, I couldn't tell you right now
21:37 what Channing Tyndall's number was.
21:39 I have absolutely no idea.
21:41 - Wow, you have to bring him into it.
21:43 I was going to jump to Channing Tyndall.
21:46 - I couldn't tell you what his number is.
21:48 He's 41.
21:49 - He's 41.
21:50 - Could not tell, he's been here two years,
21:53 could not tell you what his number is.
21:55 I saw, and I watched,
21:59 I watched because I'm very bothered at the fact
22:03 that they are one linebacker short,
22:05 they're very limited,
22:07 and they're begging for trouble
22:08 if they don't add a linebacker.
22:10 You're going to overexert what you have.
22:13 You already have an injury-prone unit.
22:14 You have a small injury-prone unit.
22:17 One guy's got soft tissue injuries out the wahoo.
22:22 How do you, how do you,
22:23 how does soft tissue injuries flare up?
22:25 Excessive work.
22:26 - Correct.
22:27 But he was out there today after when-
22:29 - He was out there today.
22:30 - We're talking about David Long Jr., by the way,
22:31 in case anybody's wondering.
22:33 - Did he make a play?
22:34 - Did any linebackers make a play?
22:36 I mean-
22:37 - No, and I think they really got dominated in the run game.
22:40 That first 11-on-11 period,
22:42 which looked more like an inside run specifics kind of work,
22:46 they just got mowed over.
22:48 And I know there were good plays
22:49 where Raekwon Davis and Christian Wilkins
22:52 were really clogged up the line of scrimmage.
22:54 And it's hard to tell without pads,
22:56 but I'm seeing a lot of movement from this offensive line.
23:00 And I didn't, I, it's been years.
23:04 I'm talking unicorn years
23:06 since I've seen this level of movement
23:08 from the offensive line.
23:10 - 2016.
23:11 - And they don't have all their pieces.
23:13 And I saw this back when we had mini camp.
23:16 I was like, wait a minute,
23:17 this is like, this is like forward progress, running lanes.
23:22 I didn't think Mostard had a good day, but-
23:26 - You did or did not?
23:28 You did or did not?
23:29 - Huh?
23:30 - You did or did not?
23:31 - Did not.
23:32 - I thought he was fine.
23:34 I mean, he carried the ball a couple of times.
23:36 I don't think he had like a whole lot of holes
23:38 to run through.
23:39 I mean, Wilson Jr. was the same way.
23:40 It seemed every time he got the ball on a running play,
23:43 he had somebody in his face immediately.
23:46 They opened things up for Achmed
23:49 and once or twice for A-Chain,
23:51 who cuts very well, by the way, I will say that.
23:53 But they're the same guy again.
23:57 I mean, there's no way he's a runner.
23:58 There's the same guy.
23:59 I mean, and it's like, I get it.
24:02 I know A-Chain's-
24:03 - You're breaking the heart of Dolphin fans
24:04 who have him on their fantasy draft
24:06 and have him as the team starter
24:08 a month into the season
24:09 and think he's gonna do what the Kansas City back
24:12 did this year, where he just,
24:14 and he could very well do all of those things.
24:19 We shall see.
24:21 But that's what fans do.
24:25 They overhype things.
24:26 - Well, yeah, 'cause again, you have the unknown.
24:30 You know what you have in Savon Achmed,
24:31 who's a nice player who can give you,
24:33 who can sporadically give you some big plays
24:36 and you look at A-Chain,
24:37 maybe it's like I was gonna do,
24:38 give you big plays all the time, 'cause you don't know.
24:41 And that's the appeal of rookies,
24:44 especially if you know, right now, I'll be honest.
24:47 And like I've said, I'm gonna repeat myself.
24:48 Cam Smith's the one who has impressed the hell out of me
24:52 from the time of the off season.
24:55 Again, that whole it,
24:59 I look at him as a cornerback.
25:01 He's got it, that feel.
25:03 Remember, we talked about this yesterday, last night,
25:06 Noeg Benagany doesn't have the feel for playing cornerback.
25:09 I look at Cam Smith and that dude looks like
25:11 he's got the feel for playing cornerback.
25:13 - He gets a lot of deflections and I like that.
25:16 I don't have a single, you're rarely ever seeing him.
25:20 I don't recall one time I've seen him get beat.
25:22 And going back to OTAs and training camp,
25:29 hey, props to him.
25:30 But then how much does he line up against Tariq and Waddle?
25:34 Like I wanna see a day where X and Jalen sit it down
25:39 and he gets the call up.
25:41 - Agree, but if you remember the one play I mentioned today
25:45 that he made the first play was against Waddle
25:48 and he had good coverage on him.
25:49 He wasn't like wide open, there's a route over the middle
25:52 and the coverage was good.
25:53 It was an errand throw, like I'm pretty sure it was Mike White
25:58 where the ball was thrown too far ahead of Waddle,
26:00 but it required a very on target pass
26:04 because the coverage was pretty good.
26:05 So props there.
26:08 Anything else to that?
26:08 Tariq spoke to the media after practice.
26:11 - His matter, his legal matter is resolved.
26:15 The case got settled on Monday.
26:16 - I guess he did kind of a mea culpa.
26:18 Well, as we wrote, as you wrote for all dolphins.com,
26:23 the criminal investigation is now closed.
26:27 So no issues there.
26:29 There's been a settlement as far as any sort
26:31 of civil proceeding that's closed there.
26:33 The only issue that's left is what's the NFL gonna do.
26:36 And as you mentioned in the story,
26:38 the burden of proof isn't the same
26:39 when it comes to the NFL.
26:41 - He's gonna get slapped on the wrist.
26:45 He's too big of a star not to get a slap on the wrist.
26:48 - Like what?
26:49 One game suspension?
26:50 Is that what you're thinking?
26:51 A fine? - Possible fine.
26:52 Possible fine, subject him to a hefty,
26:56 nice charitable donation.
26:58 And I think it would be,
27:03 and here's the thing,
27:04 even if they give him a one game suspension,
27:07 I would just appeal it if I'm Tyreek
27:09 and then maybe wait until I need that one game
27:14 from an injury standpoint to drop my appeal,
27:17 take my one game.
27:18 I don't think he's gonna face more than one game
27:21 because the last incident that kind of compared to it
27:25 is Adam "Pac-Man" Jones,
27:27 who got a one game suspension for assaulting a man
27:31 and being arrested for it.
27:33 I would be shocked if you did something more
27:38 for a guy who was not charged, was not convicted.
27:40 - Yep, that makes sense.
27:43 And I would suspect now that the criminal and civil aspects
27:48 of the issue have been settled,
27:51 that it might be sooner rather than later in the NFL.
27:54 'Cause apparently the NFL,
27:55 I think based on the earlier reporting requested
27:58 and may have seen the video
28:00 that's involved in the situation.
28:04 So I don't know what else is there for them to investigate.
28:09 - And I'm pretty sure that the video doesn't have much
28:12 because if it did, he likely would have been charged.
28:17 - That's a very good point.
28:19 One more Tyreek topic,
28:21 and I'm only bringing this up
28:22 because it created some hullabaloo on social media.
28:27 - Hullabaloo, great word.
28:30 - Thank you.
28:31 This idea of Tyreek,
28:33 are you gonna go into the hall of fame
28:35 as a member of the, as a chief or as a dolphin?
28:37 Here's the thing, by the way,
28:39 there is no such, number one,
28:40 there is no such thing as going to the hall of fame
28:43 as a dolphin or as a chief.
28:46 You go into the hall of fame as an NFL player.
28:48 There is no, it's not like baseball where you wear a cap
28:50 and you choose what cap you're wearing.
28:52 That's number one.
28:53 Number two, even if Tyreek wasn't aware of this at the time,
28:56 he is standing in front of the backdrop
28:58 with the Miami Dolphins logo all over the place,
29:01 the team for which he currently plays,
29:03 what's he gonna say?
29:05 - And makes $30 million a year.
29:07 - Yeah, what's he gonna say?
29:09 Yeah, no, I like the Dolphins,
29:10 but the Chiefs are where my heart is, come on.
29:13 And then you have people like,
29:15 I saw one headline off a social media post,
29:17 that's like, whoa, what, whoa.
29:19 It's, I mean, it's one of those like, duh.
29:23 - I did find it interesting
29:24 and I take responsibility for it becoming viral
29:29 because I tweeted out
29:30 and everybody's regurgitating it based off my tweet.
29:33 He did give like a two minute speech
29:36 about why he's thankful to the Chiefs
29:37 and why he appreciates them for giving him a star.
29:41 I didn't get all of that.
29:42 I didn't get all of that, so I didn't share all of that.
29:45 But, you know, Tyreek is very confident
29:49 that he's gonna bring the Miami Dolphins to Super Bowl.
29:51 First time he said it today, he's like,
29:53 I'm going to bring the Miami Dolphins to Super Bowl.
29:54 And I was like, okay.
29:56 He said it on his podcast.
29:57 He said it repeatedly.
29:59 He's going for 2,000 yards.
30:01 - He's not afraid of hyperbole.
30:02 I think we know that by now.
30:03 - He's going for 2,000 yards.
30:05 He's gonna get the Miami Dolphins to Super Bowl win.
30:08 And he wants to take three trips a year out of this country
30:13 if he wants to, so he can continue his career.
30:15 If he can do that and enjoy his life
30:18 while he makes $30 million,
30:20 he might consider playing after his contract's over
30:22 or extending his contract.
30:24 But other than that, his dad told him,
30:26 if you're gonna make all this money, you better enjoy it.
30:28 And I don't disagree with him.
30:30 When you've made $150 million,
30:34 how much more do you really have to make?
30:36 Do you really need to make?
30:38 - No, the dude's made the Pro Bowl everywhere
30:39 he's been in the league.
30:40 He's been in all pro like three or four times.
30:42 Yeah, he's on the collision course with the Hall of Fame.
30:45 There's nobody could argue that.
30:46 That's not even debatable.
30:48 - He is on a pace that no receiver,
30:50 and I did this before he joined the Dolphins,
30:53 before he had a dynamic 1700 yard season,
30:56 he has outpaced everybody, including Jerry Rice
30:58 in terms of production and scoring in his early career.
31:02 Like all he's gotta do is probably get to 10 years
31:05 and he's probably in the Hall of Fame.
31:07 Like, so, and notice there was nobody discussing
31:13 whether or not he's going to get in or not.
31:15 - No, correct.
31:16 No, like I said, that's not even a debate.
31:17 I mean, unless his career crashes,
31:19 no, it's not a debate.
31:21 And then again, he will go in, Tyreek Hill,
31:23 wide receiver, return specialist,
31:25 played for the Kansas City Chief,
31:26 played for the Miami Dolphins.
31:27 He's not going in as a Miami Dolphin.
31:29 He's not going in as a Kansas City Chief.
31:31 That's, that was like a non-story.
31:33 There's, I mean, it's, but social media being what it is.
31:38 - I think Chief fans got all in their feelings
31:40 because they feel disrespected.
31:42 - Yeah.
31:43 - When truthfully speaking, you just won a championship
31:46 without the best weapon in the NFL.
31:49 I think you'll be all right.
31:51 - Yeah, I think they should be fine.
31:52 And again, he's playing for the Dolphins right now.
31:55 Not like he was going to say anything.
31:56 Come on, he wasn't going to say anything else.
31:59 - We also need to address Connor Williams,
32:02 showed up for work, said, I am-
32:05 - He had one much respect, yes.
32:07 - I am a top 10 center in the NFL.
32:09 I'm surprised that he said top 10
32:10 because I've heard that he's going for top five money.
32:14 If you're, I guess if you're asking for top five money,
32:17 you'll settle for top 10 money.
32:20 As I wrote in my alldolphins.com breakdown,
32:23 I think Connor Williams is the foundational piece
32:27 of this offensive line.
32:29 He's, I believe 26 now.
32:31 I would absolutely extend him.
32:34 I'd extend him at 9 million a year.
32:37 He'd be at the very top of my list of guys
32:39 that I'm trying to extend.
32:40 No, it's, I'm not trying to extend-
32:43 - Not Christian Wilkins?
32:46 - No, Christian Wilkins is going to make
32:48 a very handsome check this year.
32:50 He can sit and get that franchise tag next year.
32:52 And then he's going to average out $16 million a year.
32:56 I'd rather pay him that
32:57 than pay him 18 and a half million dollars a year.
33:00 Why am I throwing away extra $5 million a year
33:02 for the next two years for no reason?
33:05 So-
33:06 - To please your defensive line leader.
33:08 That's why you do that.
33:10 - And piss off Zach Seeler, Rayquan Davis,
33:14 and-
33:15 - Connor Williams.
33:17 - Yeah, Connor Williams, Robert Hunt.
33:20 Like it's, and I've said this before
33:23 and I've written this before.
33:24 Right now there's 13 and a half million dollars
33:26 in cap space.
33:27 It is a race for these players.
33:29 Who's going to get the money?
33:31 Because there might be two that get the money
33:34 and everybody else is just going to be holding a bag
33:36 and waiting till free agency.
33:38 I have to play an entire season out.
33:40 - And they can't spend all of it either
33:42 because they have to give themselves some loose
33:44 in case of emergencies.
33:46 - Exactly.
33:46 So this is going to be a very tricky situation
33:49 for the Dolphins.
33:50 I hope that they use some of that money to sign Dalvin Cook,
33:55 which I do believe will make them
33:57 a real legitimate Super Bowl contender.
33:59 Do I believe that they are legitimate
34:00 Super Bowl contender right now?
34:02 I do not, I'm sorry.
34:04 - Let's not dive into the Dalvin Cook weeds again.
34:09 We've beaten that subject to death already.
34:11 There's nothing new to say about this,
34:13 but let me go back to Conor Williams for a second.
34:16 Did either of us really expect him not to show up
34:19 when he's going to get slapped with a $50,000 fine daily
34:22 that cannot be rescinded?
34:23 Unlike, now what I'm curious about is what's going to happen
34:26 to the fines that he accumulated
34:28 when he didn't show up for mandatory minicamp.
34:31 - $93,000.
34:33 - Those can be waived or rescinded.
34:35 And when Williams does get a new contract,
34:38 if he does get a new contract,
34:40 chances are that's going to be part of the deal.
34:42 One would think.
34:44 - Yeah, I need the Dolphins to get back to the point
34:47 where they started giving globs of money for workout bonuses
34:51 because that used to be a staple
34:53 under the Bill Parcells and Jeff Ireland regime,
34:57 where they just got a ridiculous amount of money
34:59 for showing up for their workouts.
35:01 And then we won't even have this problem.
35:03 But Conor's here, he looked great first day.
35:09 And, but I think that he needs to,
35:13 nobody on your offensive line is a foundational piece.
35:16 Tell me who it is.
35:17 Tell me who you're building.
35:20 - You know who I'm going to say.
35:21 You know who I'm going to say.
35:22 - He's not under contract.
35:24 - But, oh, for Jimmy, beyond that-
35:25 - You're talking about Robert Hunt.
35:26 - Robert Hunt, I'm talking about Robert Hunt.
35:28 Yes.
35:29 - So you would sign Robert Hunt over Conor Williams?
35:32 - Yes, I've said that many times.
35:34 I'm going to repeat it.
35:35 I think he's a better player.
35:37 - Signing a right guard over a starting center, a top.
35:41 - Well, one could make the argument
35:42 that Robert Hunt could play right tackle also.
35:45 And one could make the argument,
35:49 why isn't he playing right tackle?
35:51 Would the Dolphins be better
35:52 if they had somebody else at right guard
35:54 and Robert Hunt at right tackle,
35:56 then Hunt and Austin Jackson at right tackle.
35:58 - Hey man, Austin Jackson ain't do nothing to you.
36:00 Austin Jackson's did nothing bad to you.
36:01 - Oh, and I like Austin Jackson.
36:02 And I want, and maybe this is what the Dolphins are thinking
36:06 they're going to look at him throughout training camp,
36:10 see if their conviction in him is justified
36:13 and then give him the job.
36:15 If he does that, if he doesn't,
36:17 then maybe they revisit the idea of Robert Hunt.
36:19 - What are you talking about?
36:20 - What am I talking about?
36:22 - Austin Jackson's got to play like a bum to lose that job.
36:26 And he's got to bum it up
36:29 for the first month of the season to lose that job.
36:32 You don't agree?
36:35 Here's what I would tell you to be replaced by,
36:38 I agree with you to a certain degree,
36:40 but the Dolphins also always have that option
36:42 of moving Robert Hunt to right tackle.
36:44 - Which they refuse to do.
36:46 - Well, but you actually think they're going to take
36:48 the chance of sinking the season if they're not,
36:51 they don't have a conviction that Austin Jackson
36:54 is going to get the job done at right tackle.
36:56 We're running out of time here.
36:59 For record keeping purposes,
37:00 everybody was at practice today,
37:02 except for the four guys who are on PUP,
37:04 Terron Armstead, Nick Needham, Isaiah--
37:06 - You guys found Daywood?
37:08 - Yes, we found Daywood Davis.
37:10 And Tanner Conner, the only one we didn't see at all
37:13 because we saw Armstead win and Needham on the field
37:17 doing like some minor work.
37:20 - Calisthenics.
37:21 - Minor work, Armstead was out there--
37:23 - Calisthenics.
37:24 - Armstead was out there killing it, him and Winn.
37:27 They probably wish they were practicing.
37:29 That was some extensive rehab.
37:31 I'm like, man, I want to practice.
37:33 - Okay, well, anyway, so the only guy we didn't see
37:36 at all was Tanner Conner, the other guys were there,
37:38 which obviously is good, the first day of training camp.
37:41 We'll see what day two brings.
37:43 Any final thoughts here before we wrap this up?
37:46 - Props to the offense for, well, actually you brought up
37:50 the fact that there was a turnover.
37:51 Damn you, River, Craig Graff.
37:53 That's my goal every single day, no turnovers,
37:56 but then the defense, they don't get their praise
37:58 for creating turnovers.
38:00 So, and Justin Bethel was the guy
38:01 who created that turnover.
38:03 - Yes, he's the one who forced it.
38:05 - Yes, so Justin Bethel
38:07 with the first turnover of training camp.
38:09 - There you go, and Aubrey Miller Jr.
38:11 had the fumble recovery.
38:12 So again, it was the first day of training camp,
38:15 the first practice, it was fine, nothing spectacular,
38:17 nothing overly dramatic one way or the other.
38:21 Didn't look like anybody suffered
38:22 any kind of significant injury.
38:24 - Oh, Jalen Phillips and that's--
38:25 - Well, we don't know, we don't speculate on injury.
38:29 What we can report is he had his lower left leg retake.
38:33 Now we can report 'cause that's visually,
38:35 we are not to speculate on what's going on.
38:37 And he was walking with a little bit of limp,
38:39 which is something we also can observe.