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Is The Royal Rumble Actually Good?

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The Royal Rumble is easily one of WWE's most popular matches, chock full of surprises entrances, returning legends and dream match level face-offs it seems to be a winning formula - but with 30 folks in the mix it is also an exercise in spinning plates that doesn't always gel - so is The Royal Rumble Actually Good?

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00:00 I've been working in wrestling media for a few years now and I've noticed a pattern.
00:05 I will admit I'm not the first person to have noticed this of course, because it's
00:09 bleeding obvious.
00:11 But interest in wrestling is at its highest from January through to WrestleMania.
00:16 It will pick up again a little bit leading into Summerslam and Survivor Series, but it
00:22 never quite reaches the level of that January through April period.
00:27 There are a portion of wrestling fans who switch off for three quarters of a year and
00:33 only watch those first four months, and when those months are over, they switch off again
00:38 and go about their lives until the next January rolls around.
00:42 The lucky bastards.
00:44 These fans are clearly only interested in what happens at WrestleMania, and that's
00:49 obvious because they tune out when it's all said and done.
00:52 But they know to come back in January because the Royal Rumble kicks off the now branded
00:57 Road to WrestleMania story.
01:00 The winners of the men's and women's matches will be the focal point for the next few months,
01:04 as well as any other storylines that are started within the match itself.
01:07 And those winners are going to the main event of WrestleMania.
01:11 Or sometimes the opening match, depending on how important WWE sees them.
01:15 The Royal Rumble match is perhaps the most important date in every wrestling fan's
01:20 calendar - a date to get excited about because, well, there's a lot to be excited about.
01:25 Who will win the matches?
01:27 Will there be any weird match-ups that we've not seen before?
01:30 Will there be some surprise cameos, NXT call-ups or shock returns?
01:35 I may come across as a bit of a grump about wrestling sometimes, especially if you watch
01:39 our Raw reviews, but I genuinely get so excited for the Rumble - sometimes more than WrestleMania
01:47 itself.
01:48 But is the Royal Rumble actually good?
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02:09 on in this episode.
02:11 The Royal Rumble match was devised by the late Pat Patterson who wanted to adapt the
02:14 already popular Battle Royal by staggering the entrances as opposed to having all the
02:19 guys in the ring at the same time.
02:21 Going by certain interviews, Vince McMahon was not a fan of the idea, and it was only
02:26 when Dick Ebersole of NBC approached him about doing a special episode of Wrestling on USA
02:31 Network, he turned to Pat Patterson and said, "Tell Dick about your stupid idea, pal."
02:36 Those are Pat Patterson's words for the record, though I don't think he did it in
02:40 that same accent.
02:41 The idea was tried out on a house show in St. Louis, Missouri on October 4th 1987, which
02:46 was won by one man gang, and then moved to television for that USA Network special with
02:51 Jim Duggan winning the 20 man version.
02:54 It was so popular and did good enough numbers that it became WWF's fourth PPV extravaganza
03:00 after WrestleMania, Summerslam and Survivor Series - the first airing in 1989 and won
03:06 by Big John Sturt.
03:07 WWF always used the match to build storylines like that first showdown between Hulk Hogan
03:12 and Ultimate Warrior in 1990, but that all changed when the stipulation was added that
03:16 the winner will get a title shot in the main event of WrestleMania 9 - which turned out
03:22 really well for eventual winner Yokozuna.
03:28 And that stipulation has become a yearly tradition, adding some much needed stakes to the match
03:33 itself, as it essentially tells you - the audience - what to expect from WrestleMania
03:38 in a couple of months' time.
03:40 And fans generally love the Rumble concept.
03:43 Even when Royal Rumbles are a bit rubbish and bland, they have their moment.
03:48 Those surprise returns, the shock cameos, the unbelievable eliminations.
03:53 You can look at pretty much every Royal Rumble in history and say, "yeah, that was an awesome
03:59 moment".
04:00 The 2001 is my favourite Rumble match of all time - for obvious reasons - but even if the
04:05 Rumble sucked, you could look at that Drew Carey moment and laugh at how ridiculous it
04:10 all was, and it's only made better by the fact that the friggin' Honky Tonk Man comes
04:14 out for more comedy with Kane.
04:16 The 2011 Rumble is fine, but it's mostly remembered for that Diesel cameo and the Santino
04:21 Morella moment at the end.
04:23 The 2000 Rumble is a bit of a mess if we're all being honest, but I could watch Two Cool
04:28 Dots again and again and again, and the ending with Rock N Big Show did lead to some really
04:33 fun storytelling in the following weeks.
04:36 And yeah, 2001 is my favourite Rumble, but everyone has their own.
04:41 Whether it's 1992 for the Ric Flair win and Bobby Heenan commentary, the 1995 match
04:47 with the Shawn Michaels near-elimination and eventual win, 1998 for the Austin win, 1999
04:53 for Vince McMahon's shenanigans, 2002 for Triple H's return, 2005 for Vince McMahon
04:58 tearing quad shenanigans, 2006 for the Eddie Guerrero tribute, 2007 for Undertaker vs.
05:05 HBK, 2010 for Edge, 2016 for the AJ Styles debut, 2018 for that old vs. new showdown
05:12 and Shinsuke Nakamura and Asuka bloody winning the thing, 2019 for Becky Lynch's awesome
05:17 win, and 2020 for the rise of Drew McIntyre to stardom.
05:22 Each Rumble has its own flavour, its own uniqueness, its own purpose, and it all depends on what
05:28 you want.
05:29 The 2001 Rumble is perfect for me as it has that balance of comedy, the hardcore nonsense
05:35 with Raven, star power out the wazoo, multiple potential winners, Kane running wild and Steve
05:41 Austin getting the big win at the end, which is what we all wanted to see.
05:47 Sean Ross Sapp over at Fightful recently released a brilliant piece talking about how Rumble
05:52 matches are put together with multiple interviews from people who've been in them.
05:56 Really go and check it out, it's linked in the video description down below.
05:58 It's fascinating to see how this match, which usually goes over an hour and has 30
06:05 or more people involved, is planned out.
06:07 I've watched backstage meetings at local indie shows where they try to book and map
06:12 out a Rumble style match and there are so many plates spinning.
06:16 Like a Hollywood movie with all the politics and egos, it's amazing a Rumble even gets
06:22 finished let alone run smoothly.
06:24 Like in the 30+ years that WWE have been doing Royal Rumbles, only one match has really gone
06:31 awry and that was the 2005 finish with the aforementioned Vince McMahon Quad Daring.
06:36 That's really, really impressive.
06:39 But outside of those moments, are the matches actually good?
06:45 Well for that, we're going to have to turn to our old friend science.
06:50 Right, okay, here we go.
06:55 I have got the ratings for every single Royal Rumble match in history.
07:02 Every single one with the exception of 1993.
07:05 I'll get into that in a minute.
07:06 Maybe I'll do that now.
07:07 Yeah, Dave Meltzer didn't rate the 1993 Rumble because, come on scroll, I don't need your
07:13 prompt.
07:14 I don't want to leave a comment.
07:16 I don't want to rate this with stars.
07:18 Parts were very good, even excellent by Battle Royal standards.
07:21 Others were bad by any standard.
07:23 So there you go.
07:24 I don't think, well, I mean spoilers, I don't think it would have drastically affected the
07:30 overall average rating.
07:32 Let's get into it.
07:33 So 1988, two and a half stars.
07:37 1989, two and a half.
07:40 1995, that's three and a half stars.
07:43 1990, oh no, dropped some.
07:47 1999, one and a half stars.
07:53 It wasn't very good, folks.
07:55 It wasn't very good.
07:57 2001, three and a quarter stars.
08:00 The third best Rumble according to Meltzer thus far.
08:03 Ah, bollocks, it's already been beaten by 2002, two and a half stars.
08:06 The 2004 Rumble, which was won by Stephen Richards, our new best people, the 2007 Royal
08:15 Rumble, four big stars there.
08:18 Well done you.
08:20 Three and a quarter stars for 2012.
08:23 I think that's f***ing generous.
08:25 Ah, 2014, objectively one of the sh*tty Royal Rumbles of all time, three and a half stars
08:31 by Dave Meltzer.
08:32 However, the 2015 Rumble, which is a very, very bad Rumble, and WWE should be ashamed
08:38 of themselves, a star and three quarters.
08:42 It's not the lowest though.
08:43 It's not the lowest.
08:44 I thought it might, but it's not.
08:46 1999, still the lowest one with Vince McMahon winning, but 2015, the big dog, four f***ing
08:53 stars for the 2016 Rumble.
08:56 Crikey.
08:57 2020, that is four and a quarter stars.
08:59 This feels very f***ing chaotic at the moment.
09:00 Look at this absolute madness that I've just blue tacked onto my brand new house wall.
09:05 Like, it's various variations of the same thing.
09:09 It's three and a quarter, it's three and three quarters, it's three and a half.
09:13 What I did notice looking through all of this though, is that they do kind of get gradually
09:18 better.
09:19 Like, look, like here, you've got, you know, four and a quarter, three and, is it three
09:24 and a quarter?
09:25 All the best Rumbles seem to have come in like quite recent memory, particularly like
09:29 in these last three, but you know, that, that's a good Rumble.
09:32 That, the 2016 one got four stars.
09:35 You kind of compare that to some of these older ones, which are sort of like these kind
09:38 of middling matches.
09:39 And I think that's the nineties in particular is certainly a way to look at the Royal Rumble
09:42 and be like, yeah, it was, it was good.
09:44 Yeah, it's a good Rumble.
09:45 That, yeah, I liked it.
09:46 It's a good Rumble.
09:47 But I think now that WWE have really started to like love the Royal Rumble and fans love
09:52 the Royal Rumble, we are getting more like character.
09:56 It doesn't quite help the average though, because yeah, the average star rating for
10:00 a Royal Rumble, according to big daddy Dave Meltzer is three and a quarter stars.
10:05 That's average, right?
10:06 Like it's three stars.
10:07 It's good.
10:08 In fact, it's better than average.
10:09 And I kind of think that's fair because like Dave's looking at it from like a match type
10:14 of perspective, right?
10:15 Like he's looking at it from like the spots and like the way that it was booked and the
10:19 way that it's mapped out and things like that.
10:20 So I kind of think that Dave is right.
10:23 Yeah, I think that three and a quarter stars is probably a fair assumption of the Royal
10:29 Rumble match in terms of, is it actually good?
10:33 I've also got star ratings for the women's one, uh, because we did, you know, we do now
10:37 have a women's Royal Rumble as well.
10:38 We had 2018, 2019 and 2020.
10:41 I was going to do them as separate pieces of paper, but I thought what's the f***ing
10:45 point because three and a quarter stars, three and a quarter stars, three and a half stars.
10:49 Like it's different shades of beige, you know what I mean?
10:53 Like it's variations of that was a good match.
10:57 What's frustrating about all of this is that the science portion of this is usually a really
11:00 good indication of whether some, look back at the Charlotte one.
11:04 We were asking like whether Charlotte is actually good and we were able to compare her with Becky
11:08 Lynch.
11:09 We were able to compare her with some other people.
11:10 I cannot remember who we compared her to now, but like the star rating sort of reflected
11:14 like she is objectively really good, like actually good.
11:18 I don't know if the star ratings prove whether the Royal Rumble is actually good.
11:26 What this proves is that the Royal Rumble is good.
11:29 Does that make sense?
11:33 Did this achieve anything?
11:34 Have I made any, I don't know.
11:36 Was this good?
11:37 I don't know.
11:38 Did this prove anything?
11:45 Is the Royal Rumble actually good?
11:47 What a stupid question.
11:49 The Royal Rumble to me is so much fun because you never know who's going to come out, what
11:55 silly thing is going to happen and it just keeps your adrenaline going the entire time.
12:00 And I watch wrestling to be entertained and I can't think of anything more entertaining
12:06 than the Royal Rumble.
12:08 It's the greatest match stipulation in all professional wrestling.
12:10 Like every 90 seconds you don't know if it's going to be a guy from Raw, Smackdown, a legend
12:14 you haven't seen in four or five years, or a guy from NXT.
12:17 There's dream matches happening in that match.
12:19 There's moments happening in that match.
12:21 Sometimes it could be someone of the opposite gender getting into the ring and tearing it
12:24 up which is always the craziest thing in the world to see.
12:27 I as a person who loves gimmicky matches, I'm a bit biased.
12:32 However, I do recognize that it is a match that is very hard to book properly in a way
12:37 that would read as a logical wrestling match and that would not damage anyone's character.
12:44 And this year we're faced with the Royal Rumble without the crowd, which the crowd is a huge
12:49 factor in it.
12:50 And it forces me to ask the question, is the crowd and their reaction the whole reason
12:54 that Royal Rumble is fun?
12:56 I battle ADHD daily.
13:00 I was medicated until I was in high school and it was very hard to focus.
13:04 But one thing I could focus on was pro wrestling.
13:07 But even then, sometimes it was a little difficult.
13:10 1990, you're sitting through a bunch of punches and kicks and chin locks, not in the Royal
13:16 Rumble.
13:17 Every 60 seconds a new wrestler comes out or 90 seconds, whatever the hell it is, you've
13:21 got a new person out there.
13:23 A fresh face, offense, constantly throughout the entire match.
13:29 It was perfect for me.
13:31 It really accentuated my love of pro wrestling.
13:35 The Royal Rumble isn't just good, it's great.
13:38 Besides the greatness of the Royal Rumble, that was... yeah.
13:41 As always, we took this question to Twitter to see what you thought and unsurprisingly,
13:46 given how popular the Rumble is among fans, 93.4% voted for "Yes, it was actually good".
13:53 That is the highest percentage of yes votes we've ever had in the short history of this
13:59 series.
14:00 It looks like the Rumble is universally beloved.
14:03 The Rumble is just as good as the winner.
14:05 The whole match can be 5 stars but if the wrong person wins, then it becomes bad.
14:10 It's one of the most fun things in wrestling where we count down to the next entrant and
14:13 either boo or cheer.
14:15 It also creates stars like Drew and many others.
14:17 So yes, it is actually good.
14:19 A good Rumble is the best thing ever.
14:23 Stories all throughout.
14:24 Do you wanna heckin' fight me?
14:28 The concept is so great that even the worst ones are entertaining, thanks to the element
14:32 of intrigue.
14:33 Hardly anything is better and more fulfilling than a well-booked Rumble.
14:37 Yes, yes and yes.
14:39 It's the only match of WWE's I will watch annually, without fail, regardless of what
14:44 else is going on in the company.
14:46 The Royal Rumble is the closest thing we get to an epic storyline in a single match.
14:50 Multiple plot points crossing over, starting new feuds on the road to the big season finale,
14:55 Wrestlemania.
14:56 Almost every other promotion tries to capture the same lightning in a bottle.
15:00 Most can't.
15:01 One of the bits of feedback that really jumped out to me there was the idea that the Rumble
15:05 lives and dies by its winner.
15:07 Yes, there have been classic Rumbles, but there have also been some BAD Rumbles.
15:11 And I'm not talking about the ones where it's a bit boring, I mean the ones that
15:15 have actively pissed off the audience.
15:20 What if the Royal Rumble is actually bad?
15:22 The 1996 Rumble is really lacking in star power, showing why WWF popularity was waning
15:28 in favour of the new and fresh WCW.
15:32 The 1998 Rumble is great for Austin and the Three Faces of Foley, but the rest of it is
15:37 a who's who of who gives a f***.
15:39 The 1999 Rumble is memorable for sure, but the match itself is more of an angle, just
15:44 more building of that McMahon-Austin storyline.
15:47 For the first time since its inception, it wasn't about who won the Rumble.
15:52 Vince McMahon won, but he didn't headline Wrestlemania.
15:56 Austin, the guy who lost, did.
16:00 And in a way, the same can be said for the 2000 Rumble.
16:04 And then we get into the stretch of time that is just about hated by every single wrestling
16:11 fan on the planet.
16:12 Please do prove me wrong in the comments on this.
16:15 Because we had the niceness of Edge winning in 2010, but Alberto Del Rio won in 2011,
16:21 and it didn't matter a jot for him or his destiny when he lost the opening match of
16:27 Wrestlemania against Edge.
16:29 Sheamus won in 2012 when it should have been Chris Jericho.
16:33 John Cena won in 2013, which was a foregone conclusion as fans could see a million miles
16:38 off that we were heading towards twice in a lifetime with The Rock, and we weren't
16:43 exactly excited about it this time because it came at the expense of CM Punk's excellent
16:49 WWE Championship run.
16:51 The 2014 Rumble is an absolute disaster, with WWE not realising that Daniel Bryan was the
16:59 hottest thing in wrestling and omitted him from the Rumble entirely.
17:03 So fans booed eventual winner Batista, who was supposed to be the big return of the year,
17:09 and booed poor Rey Mysterio because he had the temerity to not be Daniel Bryan.
17:16 And just when you thought WWE could not be more deaf with their 2014 booking, they had
17:22 the temerity to book the 2015 Rumble where they put Daniel Bryan in it and eliminated
17:28 him in ten minutes so we could all focus on Roman Reigns and The Rock.
17:31 It was a clear indication that WWE do not care what you as fans think.
17:37 They want Roman, so you're getting Roman.
17:40 Screw your Yes Charts.
17:42 2016 wasn't much better, again being built around Roman Reigns and Triple H winning the
17:47 WWE Championship - which no one other than Triple H and Vince McMahon wanted to see - and
17:53 despite having some new, fresh, emerging stars that people were genuinely getting behind,
18:00 WWE used the Royal Rumble to have Randy Orton win so he could beat Bray Wyatt at WrestleMania
18:06 in a storyline that did not need the WWE Championship.
18:11 The 2018 Royal Rumble was the first time in ages where WWE tried something new.
18:18 They had Hot Stars Asuka and Shinsuke Nakamura win.
18:22 It's a shame that neither won their title at WrestleMania, Asuka lost her undefeated
18:27 streak to Charlotte who didn't need to do so, and her Rumble win was overshadowed by
18:33 the debuting Ronda Rousey, but after years and years of bad Rumble winners, at least
18:38 it was a shining light that something new and someone different won.
18:42 But even when I write that down, and even when I relive those disappointments - particularly
18:47 2014, 15 and 17 - I can't help but think, "The Royal Rumble is great.
18:54 I mean it's the freaking Royal Rumble."
18:57 This tweet reply really caught my eye.
19:00 When you get to the heart of it, it's the countdown and that buzzer.
19:04 In that moment, the clarion call of "anything can happen" in the WWF rings truest.
19:11 Be that a new signing, an NXT call-up or a returning legend.
19:16 WWE have always spouted that line, "anything can happen" in the World Wrestling Federation,
19:21 and we've seen as wrestling fans that "anything" usually means "what we want" even if you
19:27 don't.
19:28 But with the Rumble, it's the start of a new season in many ways.
19:31 And it can be compared to a TV show that had a poor season you didn't like.
19:37 I didn't like season 4 of Buffy the Vampire Slayer because Adam was a weak villain, the
19:42 army stuff was total pish, and Riley was somehow less charismatic than Angel.
19:49 But season 5 had a brilliant villain in glory.
19:53 The fate of Joyce made me cry a whole bunch, the introduction of Scrappy Dawn, and a fantastic
20:00 conclusion.
20:01 So yeah, while it took me nearly 6 months to get through season 4 of Buffy the Vampire
20:07 Slayer because it was so f***ing boring in the back of my head, I always knew that season
20:13 5 would be a fresh start.
20:15 And I binged through season 5 really quickly because I enjoyed it so much.
20:20 And that's what the Royal Rumble is to a lot of fans - those fans that don't watch
20:24 what happens after WrestleMania.
20:26 They may not have enjoyed Sheamus, Randy Orton, Batista, Roman Reigns or Triple H winning,
20:32 but they'll be back in January to see the start of the new season - hoping this time
20:38 that Buffy isn't fighting someone as s*** as Adam.
20:42 Is the Royal Rumble actually good?
20:44 Yeah, it's more than good.
20:46 It's necessary.
20:48 And also it's f***ing brilliant.
20:52 Is the Royal Rumble actually good?
20:54 What a stupid question.
20:56 I know it's the gimmick, I know it's the premise, I don't care.
21:00 Why would you even leave open for interpretation?
21:04 Leave any room for error for idiots that don't think the Royal Rumble is actually good.

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