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00:00Talk isn't it?
00:01Your good works
00:02Your good works
00:03Did I say good works?
00:04I said the mercy of Allah
00:05You were not listening
00:06Where is the mercy?
00:07The mercy?
00:08What is the mercy?
00:09I was brought up with a Muslim man
00:11You were brought up with a Muslim man?
00:13I was brought up in a Muslim household
00:14Okay, have you read the Quran?
00:15No
00:16Exactly my point
00:17So it doesn't matter if you're
00:18He is my stepdad
00:19And I see
00:20I know him personally
00:21And I still see
00:22He is still in his sin
00:24He prays five times a day
00:26Yet he hasn't been sent
00:28What is your dad's sin?
00:29I'm not gonna
00:31Exactly
00:32So don't
00:33Are you saying you're without sin?
00:34No, I'm a sinner
00:35So even after Jesus' sacrifice
00:36I'm a sinner
00:37You're still a sinner
00:38We're all sinners
00:39Exactly
00:40Because he gave us grace
00:41So that
00:42That sacrifice was in vain
00:43Because you're still a sinner
00:44I live righteously
00:46By the way
00:47Do you know what the Bible says?
00:48Do you know what the Bible says?
00:50The ones
00:51The ones who are born again
00:52Will never sin again
00:54But you born again
00:55Sin again
00:56Okay
00:57Shall I show you?
00:58Jesus came here to die for our sins
00:59Come forward
01:00No problem
01:01Jesus came here to die for our sins
01:02He said
01:03He doesn't say that in the Bible
01:04Exactly
01:05You need a human sacrifice
01:06We don't
01:07Jesus died for our sins
01:08You know
01:09We don't need a human sacrifice
01:10You do
01:11That's the difference
01:12Jesus died for our sins
01:13And there's no forgiveness without the blood of Christ
01:15Exactly my point
01:16My God doesn't need no blood
01:18Your God does
01:19What's the difference?
01:20That is the difference between someone who believes in like a Satanic ritual
01:23Where they perform animal sacrifice and human sacrifice
01:26You know if you ask the Hindus
01:28They give sacrifice to someone called Kali, who is a goddess, a Hindu goddess, just like Baal.
01:34You eat the ritual blood of Jesus and you eat the ritual flesh of Jesus.
01:37You are a ritual cannibal.
01:40Have you finished whispering in the ear?
01:41That is paganism.
01:42That is pure unadulterated paganism.
01:46Okay, so first and foremost, do born again Christians, can they sin or not?
01:52Born again Christians who sin, will they go to heaven or hell?
01:56Born again, listen to the question.
01:58Born again Christians, you can come here.
02:00Born again Christians who sin, will they go to heaven or hell?
02:05Confess your sins.
02:06Answer.
02:07I'm sorry.
02:08If you confess your sins, he is faithful enough to forgive.
02:11Also, you still have to confess your sins.
02:13Of course not.
02:13So it means there's no, what's the point of Jesus dying on the cross?
02:17Because before Jesus died on the cross, God wanted you to repent for your sins and seek forgiveness.
02:22After his, after his, after his, after his sacrifice, you still need to repent.
02:27You have different sins.
02:28It wasn't before.
02:28Even if we were sinners, Christ died for our sins.
02:31Even if we were sinners.
02:31Born again Christians who sin, will go to hell.
02:35There is a difference.
02:36What are you saying?
02:37What are you saying?
02:37There's lust.
02:38There's greed.
02:39There's adultery.
02:40There's all these types of sins.
02:42But when you're a born again Christian and something that might have had you in a world
02:46such as lust or such as adultery or such as all these things.
02:51When you believe in, when you give your life to God and it's something that had you and had
02:56you in bondage and that had you enslaved, then he gives you a transformation and renewal
03:02of mind and sets you free from your sins.
03:04Okay.
03:05And what if you sin?
03:07Okay.
03:07Okay.
03:08Wait, wait.
03:08Let her finish.
03:08Let her finish.
03:09Let her finish.
03:09It's okay.
03:10Let her finish.
03:10So once, are you saying that if you are in bondage to your sin and then you receive Jesus
03:15Christ, then you stop sinning.
03:17Am I right?
03:18Wait.
03:18Can I just share something with you?
03:20I used to suffer with lust.
03:22I used to suffer in the flesh, the fleshly desires of the world.
03:25Even you do.
03:26Yeah.
03:26Even that too.
03:27Everybody does.
03:28Have respect.
03:28She's finishing her sentence.
03:29Go on.
03:29Finish it.
03:29So you have the flesh and then you have the spirit.
03:33I'll show you.
03:33When I was in the world, my fleshly enslavement was lust.
03:38I searched for love and I had suffered from lust.
03:44Okay.
03:45So this gentleman earlier asked me because I made a statement that born again Christians
03:50cannot sin because if they do, then they are going to hell.
03:54He asked me for proof.
03:55I'm going to show you the proof.
03:57Yes.
03:58I'm not talking to you.
03:58Those who live in the flesh will not inherit the kingdom.
04:02No, they will not.
04:03But this is where the churches are getting it wrong.
04:04Can the born again sin?
04:06That's the question.
04:06Can the born again sin?
04:08If you're not sold out, God says you're either hot or you're cold.
04:12You don't serve the light and the darkness.
04:15If you are lukewarm, you will be spat.
04:19Come here.
04:19I'll show you the evidence.
04:21Willfully and the other one you'll see.
04:23Yes, willfully, of course.
04:24You only sin willfully.
04:25You don't just sin by...
04:26I believe.
04:28I believe.
04:29If I was still in my sin, if I was still in my flesh, living in lust, living in adultery,
04:34living in idolatry, living in greed, living with pride, I will not go to heaven.
04:40Do you sin still?
04:41No.
04:41You stop sinning.
04:42If I can stand here and say that I no longer watch pornography, I no longer lust for other
04:47men and whatever else, I no longer...
04:50Are you saying you don't sin at all?
04:51Seriously?
04:52So you become like Jesus?
04:53Yeah.
04:53Wow.
04:54Any other Christian here claims that they don't sin at all?
04:56I'm sold out for God.
04:57Okay.
04:58I sin, little sin.
04:59Little sin.
05:00No, no, no.
05:00No, no.
05:01Sin in the eyes of God is sin.
05:02Doesn't matter what.
05:03He lied when he said, I can't sin.
05:05So the question is this.
05:07If you...
05:08No, I don't.
05:08If you're born again...
05:10If you're born again...
05:11I don't masturbate.
05:11I don't...
05:12I don't...
05:12You don't need to say all that.
05:14Lady, listen.
05:15Listen.
05:15Do you commit any sin at all?
05:17No.
05:17Okay.
05:18So you become like Jesus now?
05:19Right.
05:19So it says in Corinthians 13, right?
05:21So this Christian here is saying she doesn't sin at all.
05:23Now, this is what the Bible says about those people who are Christians and who do sin.
05:28It says here, no one who is born of God will continue to sin because God's seed remains in them.
05:34They cannot go on sinning because they have been born of God.
05:38Okay.
05:39Now, watch this.
05:40This is how we know the children of God are and who the children of the devil are.
05:45Anyone who does not do what is right, yes, means sin, is not God's child.
05:50Nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister.
05:53So the question is that if you sin, then you are a Satan's child, not God's child.
05:58All right.
05:58So there you go.
05:59So anyone, anyone who claims, any Christian who claims they don't sin at all, then they have become like Jesus.
06:04Wow.
06:05Hallelujah.
06:05And that is a lie to me because everyone, all humans sin and the best of them will repent.
06:17And this is the reality.
06:18But the question, the question that we need to ask you is this.
06:22If you continue worshipping a man as God, that itself is the biggest sin.
06:27Okay.
06:27Let me just tell you.
06:28It says here, this is the sin I do not commit.
06:31I am sinless.
06:32Okay.
06:33When it comes to this.
06:34Fornicators.
06:36Idolaters.
06:37Adulterers.
06:39Worshipping a man is idolatry.
06:40Mankind, not thieves.
06:42Thieves, drunkards, believers, extorturers.
06:46I am none of them.
06:47Do you know worshipping a man is idolatry?
06:49Jesus.
06:49You worship Jesus.
06:50Jesus.
06:50So you are an idolatry.
06:52According to that, you are a sinner.
06:53There should be no idolatry.
06:54And earlier you said you don't sin.
06:55He's God.
06:56So that's a sin.
06:56He's God.
06:57That's a sin.
06:57I'm sorry to say this.
06:58He's God.
06:59But God doesn't, does God have a God?
07:01Show me God the Son in the Bible where it says God the Son.
07:10Or God the Holy Spirit.
07:11It doesn't say that in the Bible.
07:12You're just preaching from the church because they told you so.
07:14You never read the Bible.
07:16I never go to church.
07:17Okay.
07:17So where did you get this statement?
07:18I've actually been chucked out of free churches because I'm spirit led.
07:21And when I, in the Bible.
07:22So she doesn't sin.
07:23She doesn't need to go to the church.
07:25This is called heights of delusion.
07:27In the Bible.
07:27In the Bible.
07:27This is called, even from a Christian perspective.
07:29There will be many, many wolves in sheep's clothing.
07:34And this is where even the actual true Christians, actual on fire Christians,
07:39ones who are sold out dead on this earth and it's Christ living in them,
07:43they actually even have to.
07:44Do you follow Christ?
07:46Do you follow Christ?
07:47It's Christ in me.
07:48It's no longer me.
07:49So Christ, when Christ, when Christ was, when Christ was on earth,
07:53whom did he worship?
07:54When Christ is on, he was obedient to the Father.
07:57No, no.
07:57Whom did he worship?
07:58He was obedient to the Father.
07:59Whom did he pray to?
08:00He was obedient to the Father.
08:01Whom did he pray to?
08:02God the Father.
08:03So if Jesus prayed to God the Father, whom do you pray to?
08:07I pray to God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
08:10So how do you follow Jesus?
08:12The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
08:13You follow the church.
08:14You don't follow Jesus.
08:15Right, so God the Father knows the plans he has for us, yeah, before he places us in his mother's womb.
08:20Then you have Jesus who came here as our saviour to teach us, to teach us, to teach us the right ways,
08:26to be the light and the saviour of the world, to then go back into the world and to be the light and to tell people...
08:31You're not even answering the question.
08:33You're preaching again.
08:34I think you really think...
08:35Can you stop cutting me short?
08:36No, no, but you're not answering the question.
08:38I asked you, where did Jesus...
08:41The Holy Spirit that comes upon us and gives us the strength that is no longer us, it's him that lives in us, through us.
08:47Why don't you follow Jesus?
08:49To you, it might not be possible.
08:51It might sound stupid that I no longer am a slave to you.
08:53No, you don't follow Jesus.
08:54You follow the church.
08:55I am Jesus.
08:56No, you follow Jesus.
08:57Jesus is not at all.
08:58God lives in me.
08:59So I no longer am a slave to my sin.
09:02Jesus lives in you or the Holy Spirit lives in you?
09:05Who lives in you?
09:05And I am a new creation in Christ.
09:06I think that's a script.
09:07She has learned a script.
09:08Okay, so because she doesn't want to engage, I think what I want to say is this.
09:13Jesus, when he was on earth, you're just reading from a script now.
09:19You're not even engaging in a discussion.
09:21The problem with the script is this.
09:25Jesus, when he was on earth, he never worshipped anyone except his God.
09:32She worships Jesus.
09:33She worships a man.
09:35She worships...
09:36Yeah, she's worshipping a man.
09:39You're not worshipping God of Jesus.
09:41You're worshipping a man whom Jesus himself worshipped God Almighty.
09:45But you're worshipping Jesus and the Holy Spirit and the Father against Jesus Christ.
09:50Okay?
09:50Nowhere in the Bible it says God the Son or God the Holy Spirit.
09:53Those are your words.
09:54You put in the Bible.
09:55Now, you preach.
09:56You can read your script.
09:58But wait, wait.
09:58If you don't want to engage...
09:59All you've done here is defended the good news and the truth.
10:02The good news is worship God of Jesus.
10:04Allah gives you mercy.
10:05Where's your mercy?
10:06I told you, without a bloodshed.
10:08Without any bloodshed.
10:09My Allah is able to forgive.
10:11Yes, I would rather be the slave of Allah than the slave of a man like Jesus.
10:15Because Jesus himself worshiped.
10:23You know how did Jesus worship?
10:24He fell on his forehead and he prayed to his God.
10:27Who does this?
10:28The Muslims do this.
10:29Yes, I would rather be a slave to Allah than to man anytime.
10:33No problem.
10:34And you pray five times a day and you're still going to hell.
10:37Who said that?
10:37You're a liar.
10:39Go away, liar.
10:40Go away, liar.
10:41Because the thing is this.
10:42When you lie, you go away and you run like Satan.
10:44The problem is this.
10:47They worship the church.
10:48That's the reason she's saying, I worship the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
10:51Jesus never ever said to do that.
10:53No prophet, no prophet, no messenger, no apostle, no disciples ever said this.
11:01Why did no one ever say this?
11:03None of them worship Jesus.
11:06None of them said this.
11:09None of them, not even Abraham, not even Moses.
11:12He's a liar.
11:13No one worshiped the Son.
11:14Why are you a liar?
11:14That's fine.
11:15No one.
11:16Go away, you madman.
11:17No, no.
11:17Okay, so this is why we don't even look at you.
11:20Okay.
11:21Keep on lying.
11:21So, Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala, he doesn't need...
11:25By the way, stop pushing that in my face, please.
11:27It's very rude.
11:28I think you...
11:29It's not.
11:29What does it say?
11:29It's not.
11:30No, it's not.
11:31Yeah, what does it say to worship?
11:32It doesn't say to worship.
11:33He's lying.
11:34It doesn't say to worship.
11:36Okay, keep whispering in a year.
11:37Jesus is the way to worship.
11:38Go away, you madman.
11:39Go away.
11:39Okay, so Allah doesn't need blood.
11:42That God needs blood.
11:43Can you be forgiven without blood?
11:46Answer.
11:46Answer.
11:47No.
11:48No, there you go.
11:48How much would you pay?
11:49So, bloodthirsty God is a pagan God.
11:53Only pagans need blood.
11:57Only the pagans need blood.
11:58How much would you pay?
12:00Not.
12:01The Muslims don't need no payment in blood.
12:02I'm not paid to come here today, and you don't even know what the...
12:06Allah.
12:06Yeah, Allah gives me.
12:08Yes, you're right.
12:10So, on your Quran, you haven't been paid.
12:14So, my...
12:15On your Quran, you haven't been paid to come here.
12:16You need payment in blood?
12:17I don't need payment in blood.
12:19Keep them paid to come here.
12:19I need mercy of Allah.
12:21Okay?
12:21Okay?
12:22Jazaakallahou khairan.
12:23As-salamu alaykum.
12:25Wa rahmatullahi barakatuhu.
12:27Alhamdulillah, ala naamatul islam.
12:30Goats, sheeps, even camels.
12:32This is haram.
12:33Human sacrifice.
12:33Bye-bye.
12:34Yeah, sacrifice.
12:35Human sacrifice.
12:36Run away.
12:37He can only debate with a woman because he thinks that he can get one over the woman.
12:41That's all you can do.
12:42You don't have any guts to talk to somebody like me who can tell you what a liar you are
12:48and your prophet and your Allah.
12:51You are all pagans following your...
12:54Stop spitting, man.
12:55Stop spitting.
12:56You're telling your...
12:57Oh, he lost his argument.
12:59Okay, so can you be forgiven without bloodshed?
13:03No.
13:04I've been in the argument.
13:05Finish.
13:09What an idiot.
13:11Guys, guys.
13:12Run away.
13:12Come on.
13:13Run away.
13:13Leave it.
13:14Come here.
13:15Come here.
13:15I want to...
13:15I want to...
13:29Here.
13:29Here.
13:37Here.