PnB Rock Interview With Joey Franchize
Category
😹
FunTranscript
00:00What's good? It's Wild 94.1, wild94.1.com. Joey Franchise here, my dog PNB Rock.
00:05Oh, yeah.
00:06One of the only guys that I think doesn't owe 50 cent money, this is right?
00:09I mean, because you look like you have a lot of your own right here.
00:1250 men, I'm playing, man. I don't know, I don't know.
00:14That ain't 50s, right? Because Bow Wow was messing around and took 50s money back home.
00:17No, me and 50, we broke even.
00:19Okay, good. That's what I'm talking about.
00:20So Rock's here. He's got the new album out. Trap star turned pop star.
00:26Tell me, dude, I mean, congratulations first off, because that was your first top 10
00:29record on the Billboard charts.
00:31What was it like actually putting this album together, man?
00:34It's very eclectic. You got to show different sides of you on this one.
00:37Pretty similar, because I mean, I've been following you for a long time,
00:39and, you know, Catch These Feelings was fire, and I think this one right here
00:43was like, look, I could jump in both lanes, and y'all gonna respect this pen right here.
00:47Yeah, definitely. Pretty much everything you just said.
00:49Catch These Vibes was just like me having fun with the music.
00:52You know, I just went in the booth, and I ain't writing none of my songs.
00:55That was like new to me.
00:56And Trap star was me going – Trap star turned pop star was me going back to
01:01writing and just touching back on a whole bunch of old topics and stuff
01:05that I ain't really talking about in a minute, like stuff from my past,
01:08stuff that I've been through to get to where I'm at.
01:10You know, because a lot of people really don't know me.
01:12You know what I'm saying? They just know a few of my songs.
01:14They only know why I move the way I move, why I act the way I act.
01:17So I gave them that on the Trap star, you know what I'm saying?
01:19And the pop star side is just me just having fun, you know what I'm saying?
01:22Me traveling, me getting money, me doing different stuff in the world and putting that into the music.
01:27And it really just like me going number one was just like letting me know.
01:32They put the stamp on there.
01:33The billboard number one was just like, man, all my hard work really just coming to fruition.
01:38Everything just lining up. All my stars lining up right now.
01:40So it was just like a blessing.
01:41And you're definitely in your back to the point where you made it known, like, look,
01:44I'm one of the best songwriters out here. Put some respect on the name.
01:47What made you go as far as, say, you know, feel that confidence to feel the same?
01:50Was it going number one to make you feel confident?
01:53Like, look, man, like I'm confident in myself and y'all need to recognize what the hell going on over here.
01:57Pretty much. I always had that confidence.
02:00Like I knew what we had going on with my team, what we got going on as far as the music
02:03and what we putting out.
02:05But it's just like more so now we got the backing of not just the label,
02:09and just everybody is playing their role and, you know, helping us get this stuff out there,
02:13you know what I'm saying, as far as Spotify, Apple Music, all the big streaming sites,
02:17you know what I'm saying, like, they really just rocking with us.
02:18And they see the story, they understand the music, they understand how I'm coming,
02:22and it's just great right now.
02:24And the single off the album is Like Girls.
02:27I Like Girls.
02:27I Like Girls.
02:28I Like Girls.
02:28Pretty little skies, yeah, that way.
02:30Crazy, crazy bop right there.
02:31Definitely a sum of our hype.
02:33Now, I got to ask, because, you know, we all at some point just love, you know, girls who like girls.
02:39I mean, who doesn't?
02:40You know what I mean?
02:40It's always a beautiful thing, you know?
02:41Let's do it now.
02:42Listen, if you had to put two beautiful women in a room,
02:45and you just wanted to see making out at one point, celebrity-wise, whatever,
02:49like, who would they be?
02:51I would like to see, hmm, I'm going to say, I like older people.
03:02Like, I like, um.
03:03Like Halle Berry older?
03:05Like Nia Long older?
03:06Yeah.
03:07I'm talking about, like, Lisa Rae.
03:08Ooh, that's, okay.
03:10Copy that.
03:11I like Lisa Rae, and I'm going to put her with a new baddie.
03:14Let me see, Karushi.
03:15Ooh, okay.
03:17Damn.
03:17That's a crazy mix.
03:18That's an interesting mix.
03:19That's very, uh, that's different.
03:23You got me picturing that right now in my mind.
03:26Damn, bruh.
03:27Listen, man, PMB Rocks here is Wild 94.1.
03:30Um, now, also on the record, you have, uh, the late XXXTentacion, uh, now, you know, it's
03:37been a year since X is passing, you know, RIPX.
03:39Today.
03:39Long live Ja.
03:40Um, but what was that, you know, and you actually put a campaign, uh, for Middle Child to go
03:46number one from your, from your fan base.
03:48Definitely.
03:49I'll grab that if you want.
03:50Appreciate it.
03:50What's up?
03:51Um, now you actually put, uh, you know, a campaign out there for this record to go number one.
03:57How much did this record mean to you and to have X on it?
03:59Um, we did this song, like, around the time we did, like, three songs, I think.
04:04Two of them already came out, um, on his albums.
04:08And this was one of the songs that we were just having fun with, you know what I'm saying?
04:11We were just, we was turning the booth.
04:12I was trying to be serious, me personally, but X was like, man, no, we're gonna have fun.
04:16We're gonna turn this into, like, some fun record, you know what I'm saying?
04:18And that's basically what it was.
04:20His, his vibes, his energy was in his booth was more so, like, he wasn't taking it as serious
04:26as I was, you know what I'm saying?
04:27Like, I was, if you listen to me on the song, I was trying to tell you, like, a story, you know what I'm saying?
04:31Like, about how I came up.
04:34And he just was like, man, we're gonna, we're gonna turn this beat to knocking for you to be so serious.
04:38We're gonna have fun on this song.
04:39I'm like, all right.
04:40And I just really just wrote off his energy after I put my part in.
04:43And that's how we came up with the song.
04:45But I ain't think, like, I never thought as far as putting it out, like, how we was gonna do it.
04:50Because, like, we never really got to talk about it, you know what I'm saying?
04:52And structure, plan, how we was gonna do it.
04:55Because everything else we put out, it was like, we knew what we was gonna do and how we was gonna do it.
04:59Like, even the music that we got now, still, we got stuff that we still haven't put out.
05:02And it's like, I still don't be knowing, like, how I'm going.
05:06Because he the one who really come up with all the plans and stuff like that.
05:08You know what I'm saying?
05:08Like, he come up with how the rollout gonna be.
05:11He acting like he the label, you know what I'm saying?
05:12Like, he come up with everything.
05:13And it was just harder now, like, not having him here, you know what I'm saying, to, like, guide me through it.
05:18But, you know, the song is going way up.
05:20I'm gonna shoot a video for that song.
05:22Oh, shoot, where?
05:22Because, like, the response we've been getting.
05:25You know, it's one of the songs that's just, like, sticking his head out.
05:27Like, everybody loves the song.
05:28So I can't wait to put the video for it.
05:30I'm thinking of the video right now.
05:31Like, I'm coming up with the directing, all the whole scenes, everything is gonna be, like, through my eyes.
05:37That's gonna be dope, for real.
05:38And now, was that, like, the first time you, or the last time you guys spoke or hung out?
05:44Nah, the last time we spoke or hung out was probably out here in Miami.
05:48I had just called him.
05:49I was out here doing the hosting or something like that.
05:51And he was out here, of course.
05:53He drew from, I think, Fort Lauderdale.
05:56Came over here to fuck with me.
05:57I think it was at Liv or something like that.
05:59But he was just real uncomfortable.
06:01He don't like going to the club or nothing like that.
06:02Yeah, he doesn't seem like, he never seemed like that guy.
06:05I'm the only nigga that could break him up.
06:06Like, real rap.
06:07Like, I had him in the club.
06:08He was in there with his mom, everything.
06:10He was chilling, like, for, like, 30 minutes and then slid.
06:12Like, it wasn't a quick stop.
06:14Like, it wasn't a long stage.
06:16He just was in and out.
06:17But that was the last time I seen him, though.
06:19That's for sure.
06:19Yeah.
06:20And we're here with PNB Rock once again.
06:22Trap star turned pop stars out right now.
06:24And you also put X in your top five.
06:27Oh, of course.
06:27Recently.
06:28And you also added Drake to that.
06:30Yeah, definitely.
06:31What was it?
06:32What makes you put this top five together?
06:34Like, what about these guys?
06:35Well, obviously, you told us the X story.
06:37But what about Drake?
06:37What about Lil Durk?
06:39He's just like a part of your top five.
06:40People was mad when they seen my top five.
06:42They thought it was going to be, like, a whole bunch of, like, Jake Holes.
06:44I don't know why everybody seems to, like, want to have the superficial, like, the same top five.
06:49Yeah, like, why don't you like Kendrick in your top five?
06:51I'm like, listen, bro, this is my top five.
06:53Like, I'm only going to give you the real what I'm banging in my car and everything.
06:56You know what I'm saying?
06:56So, I put Drake in there because I feel like he, like, I put Drake and then Thug right next to each other.
07:03Because I feel like them the two people of our generation that changed the music, like, the culture of the music sound.
07:10You know what I'm saying?
07:10And they dared you to be different.
07:12You know what I'm saying?
07:12Yeah, exactly.
07:13Thug definitely.
07:13Drake came out of nowhere and had niggas singing and rapping again.
07:17You know what I'm saying?
07:17Like, where's those cool?
07:18Like, everybody was on some rapping shit at one point in time.
07:21But now we got Thug.
07:22You know what I'm saying?
07:22He come and give you 70 different flows on one song.
07:26You hear me?
07:26He's screaming on the track.
07:27And everybody thinking it's a joke.
07:29But this shit is really fired.
07:31You know what I'm saying?
07:31Like, and now, fast forward to now, you see how much of an impact that he got on all the kids that's out here.
07:38You know what I'm saying?
07:38Especially Drake, too.
07:39But I put X in there because, like, there's nobody out here doing what X was doing.
07:44You know what I'm saying?
07:44Like, he was one of the people I would say is generalist.
07:47Just like I would say I'm generalist.
07:48Like, you could literally put any beat on here, give you a different swag, a different flow, different meaning for this song, any type of vibe.
07:56You know what I'm saying?
07:57And that's just why I put him in my top of my head.
07:59He a goat in my eyes.
08:01For real.
08:02No, especially for this new generation.
08:04I think you said you had it on point.
08:05Because even with Thug, like, I felt like what Gucci did for a lot of the guys that you see now being superstars.
08:11Yeah.
08:12Like, Thug is doing that same thing for these new guys.
08:14For the new youth.
08:16Like, he creating different waves.
08:17And he putting them on, too.
08:18Like, he not just, he's just like Gucci, man.
08:21Exactly how you said it.
08:22But he getting them and putting that light on them, you know what I'm saying?
08:25And that's good.
08:25And I like seeing that domino effect happen, especially trickle down to, like, some of the new guys with, you know, who got the talent.
08:30Yeah.
08:31You know, Dirk was in there, too.
08:32And we saw that Dirk recently had turned himself in, got caught up in the situation.
08:36We know Kodak's been going through the situation, too.
08:39What is, yeah, it's getting crazy out here, especially for him.
08:42I've seen, like, you know, all these talented guys, like, you know, get back like that.
08:45And you being in situations, in the situation, in previous situations like that before, what is your advice to some of these guys, you know, who just don't know how to kind of, like, leave certain things alone?
08:57Or how does that work?
08:58It's a touchy topic right there, you know what I'm saying?
08:59Because it's like, you really don't even be the artists that be doing a lot of stuff, you know what I'm saying?
09:04Like, they be the people that they be around, you feel me?
09:06And it's like, they got to understand that we not, we might come from crazy situations.
09:11Like, these are friends, you know what I'm saying?
09:12And they've been around us 24-7 for hours and years, not even that.
09:16But they got to understand that we've transitioned in our life from street shit to being a musician, you know what I'm saying?
09:22Like, we're not doing the same stuff that we used to do.
09:24So it always backtracked to the people that you would be around and the surroundings that you be.
09:28You really just got to change that, you know what I'm saying?
09:30Like, it's hard to say it.
09:32It's easy to say it, but it's hard to do, put it like that.
09:34Like, these are the people that you love, you know what I'm saying?
09:36You grew up with these people, but they still got the same mentality because they're not making music.
09:40They're not, they're not, I mean, they might see you doing it, you know what I'm saying?
09:43They might get a little part of their experiences, but they still stuck in the trap at the end of the day.
09:48They still trying to figure it out.
09:49So you might have a situation where, though, you chilling with your friends, and they just want to do some goofy shit just because they don't got no money.
09:55You feel me?
09:56And they're like, damn, do I got to keep putting money in these guys' pockets just for them not to do nothing, or do I just stop hanging with them?
10:01You know what I'm saying?
10:02And that's crazy.
10:03He's my friends, though, you know what I'm saying?
10:04That's a weird dilemma to be into.
10:05That should be crazy.
10:06But it's like, you got to, bro, you got to, you a man at the end of the day, you got to separate yourself from people in certain situations, you know what I'm saying?
10:13Like, because that shit gets you locked up.
10:16Yeah, you don't need that.
10:18No, for sure.
10:18And I feel like you touched that on the album with Roddy Ricch on that record, man.
10:22With Roddy.
10:22And that record was.
10:23A whole bunch of people, like, just around you just that you think is for you and really just these bad seeds, you feel me?
10:29Like, real shit.
10:30Got to evolve.
10:32And now we got to go to a different topic.
10:34We got to talk about the drip.
10:35We see the drip right here.
10:36Hey, yeah.
10:37I hope that guys is, like, blinding that camera right there.
10:40Yo, we saw that you had the thing with no Balenciagas.
10:43We see the Balenciagas on the feet.
10:44What made the change?
10:46I just got these yesterday, bro.
10:48Okay, I will show you.
10:50I wasn't supposed to be, like, I was supposed to pack for, like, a week or something like that, and I only packed for, like, two days.
10:56Bro, this is my receipt from yesterday, bro.
10:58Bro, I spent $6,500 just for two outfits.
11:01You feel me?
11:01Like, no bap.
11:03Yo, I'm just saying, let me hold a dollar for the vending machine, man.
11:06That's what I need.
11:06I just need some chips.
11:07No worries.
11:08But, man, like, you know, I got on an off-white.
11:10You know what I'm saying?
11:10This is a nice little off-white piece.
11:11I'm surprised I caught this out there lacking.
11:14You know, this is something called No Wave.
11:16You know what I'm saying?
11:16It's new.
11:17I'm putting y'all on.
11:18Y'all, you heard it from me first.
11:19No Wave.
11:20You pretty much just know the wave.
11:21Know what's hot.
11:22Know what's, you know, rocking.
11:23These are the Mary jeans.
11:24You know what I'm saying?
11:25Spent two bands on them.
11:26No cap.
11:27Yeah, me and A Boogie wasn't capin' when we said that.
11:29You know what I'm saying?
11:30Two bands.
11:31It was like Mary, though.
11:32You know what I'm saying?
11:33With the Balenzis.
11:35I keep it.
11:36I keep everything.
11:37Like, you know, I be on some color shit.
11:38Like, I feel like I don't want to be too matchy-matchy, but everything got to have the same type of, you feel me?
11:43You got to coordinate.
11:43See, I'm on my red drip right now.
11:45Yeah, yeah, yeah.
11:45You got everything got to coordinate, and you're coordinating real well, man.
11:48Pause.
11:49But I got to ask you, too, because I'm a sneaker guy, and, like, look, I'm, what, Bape?
11:53These are Bape Adidas Ultra Boots.
11:54Thumb Jones is crazy.
11:57Now, this is where I feel comfortable when I'm DJing or hosting or whatever I'm on stage, but what are you most comfortable on stage, and what designer shoe is the most comfortable?
12:04Because I've never boomed in a designer shoe or what have you, so you tell me.
12:07Keep it real, man.
12:08All these designer shoes fucking hurt.
12:10You know what I'm saying?
12:11They fucking hurt.
12:12And it's like, you just really just want to be swagging.
12:15And it's like, the best ones right now, I'm going to say, is Dior.
12:18They come in real comfortable, and they on some comfortable shit.
12:21Everybody else, this is really just for the look.
12:23Like, this shit hurt.
12:24This shit, like, this is like a weight.
12:25Like, when I first put these shoes on and I took them off, I ain't noticed how much of a weight they was.
12:30And so I was like, damn, I don't got these shoes on.
12:31Like, I was lifting weights all day on my ankle.
12:35Like, that's really how it felt.
12:36And I'm like, man, it costs to be out here flexing.
12:39It costs to be flexing out here, for sure.
12:42You know, beauty is pain.
12:43You know what I'm saying?
12:43Like, damn.
12:44I see what y'all be going through, man.
12:46So, Rock, what's next, man?
12:48I mean, the album's out right now.
12:49The Deluxe album's out right now.
12:50You got the single out.
12:51The videos are out.
12:52It's a whole bunch next for PNB.
12:54I just dropped a song with Ed Sheeran and Chance Red.
12:55That's right.
12:56We got to talk about that, man.
12:57Like, I was like, yo, when I saw that record, I'm like, yo, Rock is out of here, bro.
13:03Like, you got on the Ed Sheeran record.
13:05Like, yo, you're out of here.
13:06That just was a blessing in itself.
13:08You know what I'm saying?
13:08Me just, I wasn't actually in the studio with those guys when they recorded.
13:12They just really just came with my XXL freestyle.
13:14Okay.
13:14Which was crazy to me.
13:16When they came to me with the information, they're like, bro, we trying to get you this
13:19clear, clear this, or sign off on this clearance.
13:21I'm like, all right, what is it?
13:22Thinking it was like one of some, one of my old features or something.
13:25And he was like, man, this is Ed Sheeran.
13:27And Chance the Rapper.
13:28I'm like, what?
13:30I'm like, hold, what's these?
13:32Let me hear it.
13:32You feel me?
13:33And I heard the song, and I was just amazed.
13:34Like, damn, that's what they got out of me?
13:36Like, what did they hear that at?
13:38You know what I'm saying?
13:38I was just trying to figure out the story.
13:40Like, dang, who put this together?
13:41You feel me like, this is crazy.
13:42Like, I'm really on here.
13:44A lot of times, you feel me like, they say it with my voice, and it's, they structured
13:47this whole song around what I was saying.
13:49Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's so trippy.
13:50I'm like, damn.
13:51I feel like, boy, we did the video.
13:53I was happy.
13:54You know what I'm saying?
13:54Like, it's just, that's one of those, another echoey for the boy PNB.
14:00You know what I'm saying?
14:01I'm just going to keep going up, but you never know what to expect.
14:03You know what I'm saying?
14:04So, I'm working right now on the album with Murder Beats.
14:06Word.
14:07Okay.
14:08We cooking up.
14:09We ready to drop something soon, because I'm trying, I got the momentum on me right
14:12now.
14:12I got everybody's attention right now, so I'm trying to just keep it coming.
14:15You know what I'm saying?
14:16Keep going, bro.
14:17Come on, I'm pulling the gas.
14:18There's a lot of stuff coming, though, bro.
14:19Like, I ain't going to cap him out of going on tour.
14:21If we just try to start turning pop star, I'm bringing a couple of young guys on the
14:24tour with me.
14:24We got to bring you to Tampa, too, bro.
14:25We got to turn on the Tampa.
14:26We got to set that up.
14:27Tampa and Miami wasn't on the route, and we're just trying to figure that out right
14:29now, too, so that's crazy.
14:30We going to situate that.
14:33We'll get on the phone management when we sort that out.
14:36Who's on your wish list for, now, you got Ed Sheeran.
14:39That's already a step up.
14:41Who on that next level do you see yourself collabing with?
14:44I always, ever since I first heard it when I was locked up in 2011, I heard this girl
14:48on the radio, and I was like, damn, she's crazy.
14:50Wherever she is, if I ever get a chance to make music, I'll do a song with her.
14:54Adele, she's so funny.
14:57And she's single now, too.
14:58Oh, yeah.
14:59That's crazy.
14:59I heard she left her man.
15:00Because she got her maneuvering.
15:02She moving.
15:03So you feel me?
15:04And she with the trap shit, too.
15:06I heard her sing some Cardi B song or something recently, so she can be listening to the hip-hop shit.
15:10She's damn.
15:11I fuck with her.
15:12I would like to do a song with Andre 3000, like Erykah Badu.
15:16Like, just great people that's making music, serious music, you know what I'm saying?
15:19Like, it's a whole bunch of people that I would like to do a song with that I ain't gonna need
15:22because I'm gonna do a song with them.
15:24It's like a whole bunch of kids around my age.
15:26This is inevitable, you know what I'm saying?
15:27Like, once we come across each other and we're in that same situation, we're gonna get in the booth
15:31and lock in.
15:31But these are people that I aspire to do a song with, you know what I'm saying?
15:35Like, these are people.
15:38And my last question is, because one of my favorite records on the album is
15:41Put You On With A Boogie, and Boogie's my dude.
15:44Yeah.
15:45So I'm like, dude, can we see ever a P&B and A Boogie collab project?
15:50Like, we see with Baby and Gunna?
15:51No, we been supposed to do that, bro.
15:53Like, literally been supposed to do that.
15:54It's just like, we had so many songs at one point in time.
15:57We still got them, and I'm not gonna see they're going.
15:58But it's like, we haven't been in the – we used to always be in New York, bro.
16:03We always used to be in New York at the same time.
16:05I'll never be in New York anymore, and he be moving around crazy too now.
16:08It's just like, our vibes is in the studio vibes.
16:10We ain't just send a song to you and you do a verse on that type of person.
16:14Like, we in the studio vibes, you know what I'm saying?
16:16So it just pretty much has got to get back to that space where we in the same time zone,
16:22you know what I'm saying?
16:22I'm living in L.A., he's living in Jersey.
16:24It's just like, we just got to get back in.
16:26That's all.
16:27But the album is damn near half done, I would say.
16:30You got songs that people begging just from snippets from two years ago
16:34that still hasn't come out.
16:35Bro, it was that one and the last one off Catch These Feelings with you and Boogie
16:39that was literally –
16:40What song was on there with me and Boogie?
16:45Especially on my phone.
16:47It was – damn.
16:49It was a dope –
16:50Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, Lovin' You.
16:52That's crazy.
16:53That Lovin' You is my shit.
16:55It ain't nothing like – man, that song go up.
16:57I still perform –
16:57Still, dog, I opened up in the club with that record.
17:00That's crazy.
17:00I'm doing that serious.
17:01I perform that song to this day, bro.
17:02Like, it's great when you got timeless music because I probably perform the songs from 2015.
17:07That shit could snap in like five years from now.
17:09We're right.
17:09Yeah, still, snap.
17:10Yo, PNB Rob, appreciate the time, brother.
17:14Come on, man.
17:14You already know.
17:15Trap star turned pop star.
17:17Oh, yeah.
17:17I like girls' videos out.
17:19You got the video out, too, with T. Girsley.
17:21Yes, sir.
17:22So, a lot of visuals coming.
17:23You got the Ed Sheeran record.
17:24Man, it's doing –
17:25Be looking forward for that middle child video.
17:27That's about to be a crazy one.
17:29I can't wait for that to drop, bro.
17:30Yeah.
17:30All through the eyes of PNB, too.
17:32There you go.
17:33It's wild.
17:34Oh, yeah.