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During a House Ways and Means Committee hearing on Wednesday, Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-TX) questioned US Trade Representative Jamieson Greer.

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00:00Okay. Thank you, Ambassador. I have a number of yes-no answers, and if you feel you cannot answer them, yes or no, just say you cannot, and I'll move on to the next question.
00:10The first of these, yes or no, the Trump tariffs will soon be levied on pharmaceuticals from abroad.
00:17I'd like to discuss that in more detail with you, sir.
00:21Is that true or not?
00:22Well, the president, he wants to get manufacturing production back here, and so he's going to conduct an investigation to see what's appropriate in terms of tariffs.
00:30So he hasn't decided to impose them as he said he would last night at the Republican fundraiser?
00:35He said that he will impose them. Now what the extent of that is is subject to an investigation.
00:40I think the answer is yes, reclaiming my time.
00:42A simple question, Ambassador. Yes or no, do you agree with the president's senior trade advisor, Peter Navarro, that higher tariffs are tax cuts?
00:53Sir, I don't get involved in the tax discussions, but we know tariffs have a revenue effect for sure.
00:58You think tariffs are tax cuts?
01:01I think that tariffs are an imposition on foreign goods that can protect American workers and American products.
01:07And again, yes or no, do you agree with senior trade advisor, Peter Navarro,
01:12that as Americans watch their savings erode in the stock market losses approaching $7 trillion,
01:18that what Americans need is patience?
01:20I think we all need to work through this period as we try to reshore and get over the $1.2 trillion deficit that the Biden left us with.
01:28Do you agree with Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick that we're not going to reverse course,
01:33no matter how much the markets implode, and that these tariffs will be permanent?
01:38Well, the president has directed that we're negotiating with willing partners, and that's where I'm keying my guidance from.
01:43You just referenced the United Kingdom, and you have claimed that these trade deficits require these tariffs.
01:52Is it correct that large Trump tariffs were imposed on imports from close allies like the United Kingdom and Australia,
02:01even though we have a sizable trade surplus with each of those allies?
02:05There's a global deficit, and those surpluses should probably be larger because of the barriers they have.
02:11Again, sir, can you simply answer yes or no?
02:13Did we impose tariffs on allies with whom we have a trade surplus, not a trade deficit?
02:19We impose tariffs on every country because it's a global problem.
02:21So the answer is yes, even though you don't want to say it apparently.
02:24Let me ask you also about experiences during the first Trump administration,
02:30because at that time there was discussion about the impact of the retaliatory tariffs from China on farmers.
02:40And as a result of that retaliation, there was a significant amount of farm welfare payments that were paid.
02:46We know this time that the tariffs and the retaliation are much broader,
02:51like the Chinese substituting Brazilian soybeans for American soybeans.
02:56Will American taxpayers be asked once again to finance welfare payments to farmers that lose foreign markets?
03:04Yes or no?
03:05It's not clear yet whether that will be necessary.
03:07Might have to and might not.
03:09Similarly, last time there were concerns about the selective nature
03:14and the exceptions that were made to these tariffs.
03:17And it seems that those who hired Republican contributors, lobby firms, did much better on exceptions.
03:24The whole exception process was criticized by the Government Accountability Office.
03:30Can I be assured that if one of my businesses hires a Republican lobbyist and contributor
03:37who can get a table down at Mar-a-Lago,
03:39that they will not get an exception to these tariffs or an exclusion?
03:42There are no exceptions or exclusions.
03:44No exceptions.
03:45Or the President.
03:46All right.
03:46You know, it's not one of my regular allies,
03:49but the National Taxpayers Union sent me a question yesterday,
03:53and I'll pose it to you as they did to me.
03:55They note that the United States has run trade deficits for 48 straight years,
04:00during which time the U.S. economy has grown by 255 percent in real terms,
04:06that these decades of trade deficits have corresponded with increases in American wealth
04:11and household incomes that far exceed the progress in Canada, China, and the European Union.
04:17Do you think that this growth in American wealth as a result associated with deficits
04:24is something that constitutes a national emergency?
04:28The giant and massive persistent trade deficit that Biden left us with is an emergency.
04:32It's not like the small deficits from the 60s when we had auto workers here making production.
04:37We've offshored all this stuff, Mr. Doggett, and we are really in an emergency situation,
04:43and we're not passing the buck.
04:44At the time, we seem to have done much better than in the Gilded Age, which the President prefers.
04:49I would just say that on the eve of his inauguration,
04:52the President promised to bring prices drastically down,
04:54and there's nothing that you've said in your answers or non-answers to me today
04:59that would give Americans any assurance to believe anything other than that their prices will continue to soar
05:04and their savings will continue to shrink.
05:07The President's lies continue to cost the American people dearly.
05:12I yield back.

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