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00:00Bill Parcells should or should not be in the Patriots Hall of Fame?
00:02Should not.
00:03I'm a no-one Parcells.
00:04Wow, you're a should not guy.
00:05I'm a small hall guy, Jones, you know this about me.
00:08Small hall, even if it's a team hall, small hall.
00:11I am a should.
00:12So I guess I didn't realize you were- I'm in the minority.
00:13I think every co-host I've had, and I've had a handful, I think they've all been the other
00:17way.
00:18I think they've all said he should be in.
00:19I am a no.
00:20He was here for four years, had a 500 record as coach, two playoff appearances, two missed
00:26playoffs, 500 record in the playoffs, and- I mean, you're leaving out a Super Bowl appearance,
00:31but yes.
00:32Right, where he- He tanked the Super Bowl.
00:33Tanked the Super Bowl, already lined up with the Jets.
00:35I think that is the most damning thing that keeps him out of it, because as much as people
00:39are like, the franchise was a disaster, and they were going to move and all this stuff,
00:43and he legitimized it, I'm going the other way.
00:46He was taking the Jets' job, then he took Curtis Martin with him to the Jets.
00:50They were in the freaking Super Bowl, and the guy already had another job.
00:52It was the most damning thing.
00:54You don't give Kraft any blame for that?
00:55Uh, I mean, well, now that we're more and more years on Kraft, I give him a little bit,
00:59but no, but I'm not putting him in for four years as a 500 coach.
01:01You had Bill Parcells.
01:02You had, legitimately, one of the greatest coaches of all time.
01:06I know it's not the discussion about going into the Patriots Hall of Fame.
01:08He's a deserving Pro Football Hall of Famer.
01:11I think he's a deserving Patriots Hall of Famer.
01:13They want you to cook the dinner, at least they ought to let you shop for some of the
01:16groceries.
01:17I also have a wild complaint about that quote.
01:20So did you pick Ty Lawton, William McGinnis?
01:23Did you pick those guys?
01:24You did?
01:26Did you pick Terry Glenn?
01:27Oh, you didn't?
01:28So was it only Terry Glenn?
01:29So who do we give you credit for, and who do we not give you credit for?
01:30It's picking and choosing.
01:31Look, there are things to nitpick on Bill Parcells.
01:32And Terry Glenn was good.
01:33Terry Glenn, for a time, was good, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:36With Bill.
01:37But who did he want?
01:38With Bill, he was good, because Bill kept him in line.
01:40When Pete was here, not so much.
01:41When Bill Belichick was here.
01:42Didn't he go to the Super Bowl with Terry Glenn?
01:43He was, yeah, no.
01:44Okay.
01:45When Bill Parcells was here, yeah.
01:46So that's what I'm saying, but Parcells was the one that didn't even want him.
01:49I don't think he was good for him.
01:50Anyway, we're saying the same thing.
01:51No, but that's an example of, right, a guy that Bill Parcells did not want, and you're
01:54right, you're fair to question that.
01:56He got the most out of the player, which is what he did.
01:59And I do think Bill Parcells coming in and legitimizing the franchise, and I know you
02:03get these Patriots fans, oh, they were actually good in the 70s, oh, they made a Super Bowl
02:09in 85.
02:10Right.
02:11They did make a Super Bowl.
02:12But they were a joke.
02:13Oh, yeah.
02:14Bill Parcells was a joke, and Parcells and Bledsoe legitimized the franchise.