La madre de Alexander Sang Díaz, el joven desaparecido el 16 de mayo de 2022, expresó que al presidente Luis Abinader no le están informando la realidad de los hechos. Además, Yocasta Díaz agregó que, cuando su primogénito desapareció, solo había tres personas encargadas de buscarlo en un país tan grande.
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00:00I agree with the President in the sense that I hope that those voices of Haiti International
00:05could join the possibility of finding a way out of the conflict and stability in Haiti.
00:12I think it is appropriate and that anyone with a common sense and also with a desire for
00:20well-being for the Caribbean region, for the Dominican Republic and for the island, in
00:25the complete sense that includes Haiti, is the most appropriate pronouncement.
00:28Now, what has been said by the President, it seems to me that no matter how high he
00:34can throne, the facts show that the criticism of international amnesty makes sense.
00:39And right here in this space, in a continuous way, we have been the echo of information
00:47that makes manifest, that highlights those conditions that international amnesty highlights
00:55and of persecutions in areas where migrant populations and where Haitian and Haitian
01:02descendants live in confrontational situations, raids that are done in an irregularized way.
01:08We even remember that we have cases of minors sexually assaulted, as a case, if I remember
01:15correctly, I think it was the Ceibo, in a specific way, where it took place.
01:20Or migrants who have died as a result of the persecution of migration troops.
01:27I mean, there are constitutive elements that I think make sense.
01:31I think that the Dominican government needs to be sincere.
01:35And here, what we have always insisted on is the respect for the right that the Dominican
01:42Republic sovereignly has to establish its own migratory laws and apply them.
01:47But to do so.
01:48And at this moment, what is still pending is that regularization plan, which is supposed
01:53to have the responsibility of continuing a process initiated with thousands of migrants,
02:00predominantly from Haiti, but also from other nationalities, and which today is still a
02:05hurdle so that the issue of migration in the Dominican Republic can have a safe exit.
02:11Yes, and also linked to that issue, another of the aspects addressed in the weekly NOVABES
02:19as a result of a question.
02:21Because the central issue that President Luis Abinader brought up yesterday was the management
02:27of PROMIPIME and how small and medium-sized producers' loans had been or have been being
02:37expanded.
02:38However, the interest was in issues like this, the case of the so-called community of Friusa,
02:44which for those who don't know, is located in a place in Bávaro, specifically in the
02:51municipal district of Verón Punta Cana.
02:54And well, Friusa has attracted attention as a result of a call for a march of a movement
03:01that is an ultraconservative movement.
03:05It's a paramilitary group.
03:08It's a paramilitary group.
03:09I think that part of the responsibility of the media is also to evidence, not just to
03:15reproduce.
03:16The plurality of information is important for the democratic exercise of the media,
03:21but the social responsibility that we have in the media and the people who work in them
03:26also makes us have to call things by their name.
03:29There are statements made last week where you see a political leader, like Luis Acosta
03:36El Gallo, saying and giving timely information about how there are military trainings in
03:42popular sectors of the Dominican Republic in barricades, and other leaders, even people
03:48who make high-reaching media, making a call not only to attend this call, which from
03:55the perspective of peacefulness, there would be no problem for people to manifest themselves.
04:00This will not be the space where something contrary will be raised.
04:03Now, the call includes bringing firearms and the warning that in any situation a conflict
04:10is generated that harms people in this community.
04:15And I believe that there the Dominican authorities have to put the flag in the air and have to
04:21make it very clear to avoid any situation that could get out of control.
04:25Yes, yesterday basically what was questioned was an affirmation that supposedly the Dominican
04:33authorities cannot enter Friusa because it is supposed to be an area where there is a
04:39lot of expression of rebellion, of rebellion, and that it is difficult for the Dominican
04:45to enter Friusa, it is a community inhabited above all by Haitian migrants.
04:50I do not doubt that there are also Dominicans descendants of Haitians, because Haitians
04:56reproduce and relate to Dominicans, not only in economic and commercial terms, but also
05:02in human terms.
05:04However, the president denied that and said that in fact the Dominican state constantly
05:10makes migratory operations there.
05:13But I want to refer to the main issue that has to do with that demonstration.
05:18I would not be the person who in a space as important as this is going to speak out
05:25against freedom, which is a fundamental constitutional right, to demonstrate.
05:31In fact, both Stalin and I come from the social movement.
05:35We belong to a youth who understood that in the streets, in the squares and in the
05:41parks, he could demand important causes such as improvements in education, protection
05:47of the environment, respect for human rights and fight against corruption and impunity.
05:52And we had and we have been successful in each of those areas.
05:56However, I believe that also the Dominican society must take care of what is its main,
06:04what could be called in the popular speech, the golden egg.
06:09And we have said it yesterday, our main guest is Stalin, who was Viviana Ribeiro,
06:14pro-Dominican director, she said it.
06:16That is, economic and social stability.
06:19And while it is true that in this call there may be some people who have good intentions,
06:25unfortunately there are also some who want to agitate and could be taking advantage of
06:30the occasion for disorder and destabilizing.
06:34So, for me, we have to guarantee the right to protest, but we also have to guarantee
06:39order, especially because we are talking about a touristic part, which is very important
06:44for the Dominican from the point of view of this economic sector, but also that those
06:50who live there have the right, Stalin and Montero, to live in peace.
06:55But also, and this is for me the most important thing, I want to emphasize it, I believe that
07:01this protest should be directed, above all, to the Dominican authorities.
07:06Look, in this country, the rampant populism that exists with the Haitian issue has to
07:14end once and for all.
07:15Because who but the state must regulate.
07:19But you find that many times those sectors, which are ultra-conservative sectors,
07:24who live doing politics on this issue, have even been directing organizations that have
07:32to do with migratory control, and they don't.
07:35Why don't we talk better about the business, about the mafias that exist around the irregular
07:42migration of Haitians to the Dominican Republic?
07:45I believe that the main focus, if what we are really looking for is to have a regulation
07:51of Haitian migration to the Dominican Republic, which I agree with, because it benefits the
07:57Dominican Republic, in the sense that it gives it social peace, but it also benefits Haiti.
08:03Haitians who come here with this irregular migratory condition, and unfortunately then
08:08they are exploited by employers.
08:11Do you understand me?
08:12So let's make things clear.
08:15I am a faithful defender of the constitutional fundamental right to protest, to peaceful
08:23manifestation.
08:24However, I insist, I believe that this same effort that is being made to mobilize
08:30to Friusa, which could even be understood as a provocation, people looking for a
08:35bloodbath, because there are people here who live from that, from the morbidity, from the
08:40loneliness, instead of channeling that energy and going where the decision makers, who are
08:47those who in one way or another are accomplices of this irregular migration that harms
08:53Dominicans and also harms Haitians.
08:56This is how I see things, Stalin Montero.
08:58I agree with that, and I think it is the most appropriate.
09:02And I hope that the authorities assume the sense of the call as a criticism of their
09:08own performance, because basically those who call for this demonstration pose that the
09:13state has no control over the space.
09:15So I wish it were that way.
09:18But, well, other things happen in the Dominican Republic.
09:21And an example of this is also what happens in the Congress.
09:25Just yesterday, from the Chamber of Deputies, that which was so much expected was born.
09:32Then the time came and the five quintets that would integrate the Terna to propose,
09:39the three Ternas that would be sent, in this case the three quintets that would go to the
09:44Senate of the Republic for the final choice of those who will integrate the next plenum
09:51of the Chamber of Deputies, an organism that, as we have pointed out on many occasions,
09:56and as the Dominican society has a lot of clarity, has been inoperative in its last plenum,
10:02but it has not been an exclusive issue of its last plenum.
10:05It comes in a historical downturn of few contributions, and rather of a kind of articulation
10:11so that its role, its function, which is to audit and to generate audits, precisely
10:18that allow to accompany the judicialization processes when irregularities are identified
10:23in administrative managements of the public administration, has not occurred in a timely manner.
10:29Of course, so that you have some of these names, I was looking for them.
10:34Of the list, I only know two, Stalin. I don't know if you checked, but we have in the first quintet
10:40Francisco Alberto Franco Soto, Cesario Guillermo Gira Enriquez, Delta Paniagua, Giovanni Tavar.
10:48In the second quintet, Ferdinand de León, Claudio Durán, María Aurelina Esteves-Abreu,
10:54I know her, she is the president of Prolactar.
10:57Emma Polanco Melo de Mercedes, who you pondered quite positively yesterday,
11:02is the rector of the UAS, José Miguel Vázquez García.
11:06In the third quintet, Charles Betance, Ircania Casado, Pablo González, Maribel del Carmen, and Francisco Tamares.
11:14In the fourth quintet, Rainer Castillo, Eduard López, Ramón Méndez Acosta, Ivanna Rodríguez, and Enelia Santos de los Santos.
11:24And in the last quintet, Claudia Álvarez, well, I also know Claudia Álvarez, so there are three.
11:30Francisco Faña, José Miguel Fernández, Griselda Gómez, and Iván Ivanovich.
11:36Those are, or in that group would be the next five founding members of the Plenum of the House of Representatives.
11:45It was known that the members of the current plenum, despite the fact that several of them presented themselves,
11:52Mario Fernández, the same president, Anel Ramírez presented themselves, but we said it at the time,
11:58that is, it was a kind of nonsense that with such an inefficient performance of this plenum,
12:04and we have to say it, also attitude-wise, of its members, I think it was unpredictable,
12:12the possibility, rather impossible, the possibility that one of them could be reconsidered,
12:17despite the fact that members like Mario have such a high level of performance and evaluation from the sectors of civil society,
12:24precisely because he has been a warrior and a spokesman for the fight against corruption and against the impunity of the Dominican Republic for a long time.
12:32But crying the killer does not revive the dead.
12:35So I think it is appropriate, and I hope that now this process that will end in the election of three quintets,
12:41which will be the ones that will be sent as a proposal to the Senate of the Republic,
12:46finally generates a renewal that facilitates the possibility that this important extra power organ of the Dominican Republic fulfills its role and functions.
12:57Well, let's leave it here.
12:59I just want to add that tonight art and Dominican culture are in a gala,
13:05the Soberano Awards are being celebrated from 7 p.m. at the National Theater.
13:11Here is our cameraman Rafa, he already has his suit ready,
13:15so tomorrow we will see his photos in the selection of the best dresses.
13:20But for now we have to pause because we have two interviews and which of the two is more interesting.
13:26In the first one, relatives of missing people will be participating,
13:31a topic that has been put in the foreground again as a result of the disappearance of an already nationalized American Indian.
13:40Let's see if the same protocol applies in the case of all missing people, regardless of their nationality.
13:49For this we have Mrs. Yocasta Díaz, Mrs. Felicia Rodríguez is also joining us,
13:55and I imagine that Mrs. Annie Guzmán will join us a little later.
13:59Then, as today is Tuesday, there is Lee Montero, and Tuesdays are economic.
14:03Economic.
14:04Here at Uno Más Uno, and Antonio Siriaco is coming, who is the Decano of Economy of the OAS.
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14:27Thank you very much for keeping the tune with Uno Más Uno,
14:31and I say it because next we are going to deal in this interview in the foreground
14:36with a topic that I think is important for Lee Montero to continue positioning and giving him visibility
14:42because it is a very human topic.
14:44I am referring to the case of the missing people here in the Dominican Republic.
14:50And for the same reason, we have with us, Mrs. Yocasta Díaz,
14:56who is precisely the mother of Alexander San Díaz, who is unfortunately missing.
15:03Yocasta has already been here in Uno Más Uno, but we have invited her again.
15:09This time she is accompanied by Mrs. Felicia Rodríguez,
15:13whose brother Armando Rodríguez has been missing since 2022.
15:19With them we want to talk a little about how these cases are still being handled in the country.
15:27And I said it in the previous segment, again we have in the foreground
15:33this topic, the root of the disappearance of a foreigner, an American tourist.
15:39And I think many Dominicans did the exercise of comparing
15:44how the missing people in the Dominican Republic are sought, and how this tourist was sought.
15:50And in fact, they asked President Luis Abinader a question in a weekly,
15:53and he said that the same treatment is given and the same efforts are made in all circumstances.
15:59Welcome Yocasta and welcome Felicia to Uno Más Uno.
16:04Mrs. Yocasta, tell us a little.
16:06Do you really think that the protocols are applied in equal conditions?
16:12No, no, of course not.
16:14Really, I don't know why the president said that,
16:21that sharp statement that all the missing people had the same,
16:28it was the same protocol for everyone, they had the same treatment.
16:32It really is not like that.
16:34I think the president is not being told how things are.
16:38Really, when my son disappeared, there were only three people,
16:43the manager and two technicians.
16:46I think I've said that several times.
16:49Three people to look for in a whole country.
16:53Even sometimes they would leave me because they were in Barahona,
16:58or they were in another place, in Santiago,
17:01and I had to call them and they would say,
17:03no, I'm in Barahona, and there was no one else.
17:07So it's difficult.
17:10Even I had to look for help personally.
17:14Thank God that many people helped me.
17:17And even to do very specific searches,
17:22and they were paid by us.
17:25Because really, they didn't have resources,
17:28they don't have resources.
17:30Sometimes they didn't even have gas.
17:32And even I, the last thing,
17:37I asked for a lot of searches for my house
17:40in places where there are a lot of indigenous people,
17:42and that was not done.
17:44Wow, what an important part.
17:46I think it would be important that both Felicia and Mrs. Yocasta
17:51remind us how your family members disappeared
17:55and the date, to determine the time.
17:58We can start with you, Felicia.
18:00My brother disappeared from Palave de Mano Guayabo,
18:05from his own house.
18:07The last signal he gave his cell phone was inside his house.
18:12So what happened, happened there.
18:15My brother lived next to a parking lot, in front of a park.
18:20My brother disappeared on March 22nd.
18:23Now it's been three years, on March 15th.
18:28It hurts me every time I talk about him, because he marked my life.
18:33Because the last day I saw my brother alive,
18:36was, that is, in person, was my birthday,
18:41which was March 6th.
18:43He disappeared on the 15th,
18:45and I went every day to celebrate my birthday there at my house.
18:48I didn't have the support that India had,
18:51and it's not that it hurts me.
18:53It hurts me because he's my brother,
18:55and they didn't do it to him.
18:57But it also hurts me on the part of his family,
18:59because he's a human being.
19:01And even if he hadn't been my brother,
19:03it hurts me because he's a person.
19:05But I was only with the military.
19:10I mean, they didn't look for me in a cell.
19:13I used to say, walk around here,
19:15because here all those businesses have cells.
19:17Walk around here.
19:18My brother was at his house last night.
19:20I mean, I didn't have the support that some people had.
19:25I mean, I'm poor.
19:26I didn't have how to pay.
19:28I had to move by paying for a vehicle to San Juan,
19:31to Puerto Plata, wherever.
19:33I had to go to all the hospitals,
19:35because those same sheets don't cover everything.
19:37When they give you the sheet,
19:39you have to go to all the hospitals,
19:41go to all the checkpoints.
19:43And when you have checked all those places,
19:46then you come here to us to file a complaint.
19:49Wow, you have to do that yourself.
19:52Wow.
19:53And in your case, Yocasta?
19:55Well, my son Alexander disappeared on May 16, 2022.
20:00He's going to turn three now.
20:03He left the house at three in the morning,
20:06which I don't know what happened to his head.
20:11I was sleeping, and I was doing it while I was sleeping.
20:17When I woke up at six, I wasn't there,
20:19so I went crazy.
20:21I ran out of my house until I got there.
20:23I live in Honduras,
20:25and I ran all over Avenida Italia,
20:30all the way to Independencia, running.
20:33And from there, he was going to college,
20:37and I grabbed my car and went to see if he had gone to college.
20:43That was like at six in the morning,
20:46because he said he was going to go to college with me.
20:49And from there, well, the same thing.
20:53I went to the missing person unit,
20:58I filed the complaint,
21:00and thank God they accepted it,
21:03because it's a process.
21:05You have to wait 48 hours.
21:07Thank God they accepted it.
21:10And from there, the search began,
21:15but it's like I say, three people to look for cameras,
21:20to see cameras, because analyzing videos,
21:23that takes a lot of time.
21:25Searching for clues,
21:27and doing the search in a physical way,
21:31is a lot for three people.
21:34You know the system well,
21:38better than the Dominican or the Dominican Prime Minister.
21:41In the police, there is a unit
21:43that is dedicated in a special way to missing people.
21:46What is that unit called?
21:48The missing person unit.
21:50And in that one, you say there were only three people.
21:52Yes, the person in charge, two technicians,
21:55and two girls who are like the ones who receive the...
21:58They don't go out.
22:00They only receive the complaints.
22:02The complaints.
22:03Yes, exactly.
22:04And they make the document,
22:06and as Felicia says,
22:07they give us a paper where all the hospitals are,
22:10which we had to do,
22:12all the relatives have to go.
22:14I went to hospitals that I had never known,
22:17I mean, at that time.
22:19And I had to search myself,
22:21with the receptionist,
22:23sheet by sheet,
22:25because they don't have a computer,
22:27sheet by sheet,
22:29to see if my son's name was there.
22:31Wow.
22:32So, in a general sense,
22:34it's a situation that is not exclusive
22:36to the deficiencies of the national police,
22:38but it also puts on display the pendants
22:41of the same information system
22:43inside the health system.
22:44Exactly.
22:45But in addition to these two failures,
22:47are there any other types of failures
22:49with which you have been able to find yourself
22:51in this crossroads of difficulties
22:53that I know you've been through?
22:55Yes.
22:56Look,
22:57I was very sorry to see
22:59such a wide gap.
23:01I'm not saying that she doesn't deserve it.
23:03Of course,
23:04all the missing people deserve a treatment,
23:07but it must be the same treatment,
23:10because 300 agents
23:12were there to look for that person,
23:15and for us,
23:17there was so much precariousness,
23:19because it's not just that
23:21there are no physical resources of staff,
23:25it's also that there is no search protocol.
23:28There is no search protocol.
23:30No, there is no search protocol.
23:32There is no system.
23:34That's why I advocate for the AMBER alert system.
23:37That project is in the House of Representatives,
23:41which was introduced by
23:43Orlando Jorge Villegas,
23:46who was a congressman at the time,
23:48and the president said he was going to approve it.
23:52He even mentioned that he was going to send people
23:57to train in the United States
24:00and to see how that system works,
24:04but that hasn't been done.
24:06So why do we need that system?
24:10Because that system is going to unite
24:13all the institutions in search,
24:16just as they united to look for India,
24:19they will also unite to look for
24:22all the Dominican missing people,
24:24our missing people,
24:27and if we have to look for drones from other countries,
24:31we should also look for them,
24:33as they did now.
24:35Last week we had here
24:38the congresswoman Carmen Lidia Barceló,
24:42who is one of the proponents
24:44who has reintroduced the code
24:47along with Liz Míez, another legislator,
24:50and she talked to us and told us
24:52about how this system works.
24:55And at this moment, what happens?
24:58What happens?
24:59What are the periods
25:01in which the police give you information?
25:04Because we have also seen
25:06that the searches stop for a while.
25:09In this case, for 11 days,
25:11we saw it with the case of the Indian citizen,
25:14but in the case of the Dominicans,
25:16how long is the time
25:18in which the search remains active?
25:20And before you answer,
25:22there on the screen we have been presenting
25:24both the photo of Alexander and Mr. Armando,
25:28so that any people who have any clue,
25:31who have any information they can provide,
25:35to be able to provide for the solution of these cases,
25:38to locate them, to have information
25:40about their whereabouts,
25:42so that please do it.
25:44Well, each case has an assigned prosecutor.
25:48In my case,
25:50I am the prosecutor,
25:53I am the one who is in charge,
25:56I am the one who is in charge,
25:58I am the one who is in charge,
26:00I am the one who is in charge,
26:02and in my case,
26:04the prosecutor would meet with us.
26:07Obviously, that is not so easy,
26:09you have to make an appointment,
26:11and everything is a protocol
26:13of making an appointment
26:16and waiting for them to answer you,
26:18and all that,
26:20and it is a little tedious,
26:22because then you are worried,
26:24and all that.
26:26So,
26:28the process is kind of stagnating.
26:31Why? Because we don't have a camera.
26:34The same prosecutor in my case told me,
26:36we don't have a camera.
26:38Wow, they don't have a camera.
26:40My son saw that he was going to the Malecon,
26:42but in the Malecon there are only three cameras,
26:44one that doesn't work very well in Guivia,
26:50another in 12 of Jaina,
26:53and the third is private
26:55because it belongs to the Club Casa España.
27:00So, in such a long journey,
27:03there are only three cameras.
27:05And so central and so important,
27:07like the Malecon,
27:09there are no cameras.
27:11So, she told me,
27:13we have requested cameras,
27:15because without cameras,
27:17we cannot work.
27:19The searches are slowing down
27:22until there comes a time
27:24when they stop.
27:26As I told you before,
27:28I requested that they search
27:30in places where there are indigenous people
27:32around my house,
27:34like caves and that kind of thing.
27:36And they didn't go.
27:38Because they always told me,
27:40I'm in Barahona, I'm in Santiago,
27:42I'm in San Francisco,
27:44I don't have gas,
27:46they haven't given me authorization.
27:48So, there comes a time
27:50when they stop.
27:52And you have to be calling too.
27:55Giving them a follow-up.
27:57Because, unfortunately,
27:59they don't call.
28:01Because there are three people.
28:03At that time, there were three people
28:05for the whole country.
28:07We're talking about the year 2022.
28:09Yes, they increased.
28:11Because I went to a lot of programs.
28:13We remember.
28:15They increased to ten.
28:17And still to this date,
28:19they were loaned.
28:21I don't know if they are still there.
28:23If they are formally assigned.
28:25The search stops.
28:29Felicia,
28:31I see you
28:33very emotional.
28:35And one of the questions
28:37I have is
28:39if the Dominican State
28:41gives emotional
28:43and legal support,
28:45but in this case,
28:47especially emotional,
28:49to the relatives of missing persons.
28:51In your case, mother,
28:53Mr. Armando had children.
28:55Grandchildren, possibly.
28:57And it changes the life of the family.
28:59After this traumatic event.
29:01Do you get emotional support?
29:05We, as a family, no.
29:07We have had support
29:09from each other.
29:11In Yucata,
29:13a doctor was able to help
29:15the whole association.
29:17I went to a psychologist.
29:19With my youngest daughter,
29:21I went to a psychologist.
29:23Right now,
29:25we go hand in hand
29:27with the Association.
29:29President Evelyn Abreu
29:31is the only person
29:33who, after Yucata,
29:35has maintained calling us
29:37and talking
29:39and raising our case
29:41to the association.
29:43But what a shame that Yucata
29:45had to disappear
29:47and be her mother
29:49when she disappeared.
29:51And we have not had support.
29:53No one has ever called me
29:55to give me emotional support.
29:57And I, until now,
29:59I drink pills,
30:01I take medication to sleep.
30:03I take medication to eat.
30:05Sometimes you see me
30:07on the street as a pedestrian
30:09and then you say,
30:11but I go to my house.
30:13Our life has never been alive again.
30:15Our life has changed.
30:17Wow, tremendous.
30:19All this time.
30:21We feel it very much,
30:23Mrs. Felicia.
30:25Your pain is the pain
30:27of the Dominican people.
30:29In your case, Yucata,
30:31have you received legal or emotional assistance?
30:33Yes, yes.
30:35Well, in a particular way.
30:37I mean, not from the state.
30:39No, no.
30:41When the situation
30:43in San Cristobal
30:45of the explosion happened,
30:47I heard that they were going to have
30:49psychological assistance.
30:51So I had contact
30:53with some people
30:55and I asked
30:57that for the relatives of the
30:59missing people there would also be
31:01psychological assistance.
31:03So they got me.
31:05Not many,
31:07some people
31:09who could go.
31:11I tried to communicate
31:13with the majority
31:15so they could go to the
31:17Central Hospital of the Armed Forces
31:19for that assistance.
31:21Through that,
31:23I was able to escape.
31:25Wow, this is terrible.
31:27Well, finally,
31:29Ms. Limontero, we would like
31:31to know, after this
31:33difficult experience,
31:35in personal and family terms,
31:37you have had to live,
31:39what would you ask
31:41the Dominican state,
31:43the authorities,
31:45and also, what would you say
31:47to other families
31:49who, unfortunately, are going through the same thing?
31:51Yes, well,
31:53the first thing is that I would ask
31:55the president
31:57to please approve
31:59the hunger alert system.
32:01If he has to change
32:03the name, as he said,
32:05of course, it's just less.
32:07Of course.
32:09If he has to change the name
32:11of one of the missing people,
32:13I see it very well.
32:15The important thing is
32:17that there is a formal protocol,
32:19that all institutions
32:21come together,
32:23just as they came together
32:25to look for India.
32:27That is, that there is
32:29that formality,
32:31that there are human resources,
32:33that there is technology
32:35to look for the missing.
32:37And to the families,
32:39I tell them
32:41to please
32:43come together with us,
32:45that together
32:47we can give them that comfort,
32:49because it's difficult
32:51for a person
32:53who hasn't gone through that,
32:55if they can,
32:57they have to have
32:59a lot of empathy.
33:01But to call us,
33:03to come to us,
33:05there are the phones,
33:07my cell phone that hasn't changed,
33:09that we can't get together.
33:11We have a chat
33:13where we give each other that support.
33:15And if there is a person
33:17who goes to a program,
33:19they call the others.
33:21We give each other that support,
33:23that warmth, that union,
33:25that union that one needs
33:27in this difficult time.
33:29Felicia?
33:31I ask the authorities
33:33to take more action
33:35in the matter
33:37regarding the missing.
33:39Please, since a person
33:41leaves their home,
33:43leaves their job,
33:45please let them disappear.
33:47Let's look for them.
33:49Even if they don't accept the complaint,
33:51let's look for them.
33:53Many things can be avoided.
33:55If I leave my house right now
33:57and you say,
33:59Ms. Kika is not here,
34:01many things can be avoided.
34:03We can get to the bottom of it
34:05before the time passes.
34:07I myself feel helpless
34:09from the authorities
34:11since they haven't done anything
34:13for my brother
34:15and they have.
34:17And they have a way to do it.
34:19Because when you investigate,
34:21if you investigate,
34:23you have a way to do things.
34:25But what happens?
34:27People are disappearing every day.
34:29I want to make a call
34:31to Mr. President.
34:33Mr. President, this is not a secret.
34:35People are disappearing every day.
34:37We are a group of missing people,
34:39Mr. President.
34:41We have the names there,
34:43the addresses of the families
34:45that have each missing person.
34:47We have phone numbers.
34:49And if every time a person disappears,
34:51in the case of Yocata,
34:53they put him above mine,
34:55what happens with that?
34:57We last longer because
34:59every day we put one above.
35:01Every day there is a new one.
35:03I only ask for that, more support.
35:05Well, Mrs. Yocata Díaz,
35:07Mrs. Felicia Rodríguez,
35:09you have accompanied us this morning
35:11on a very difficult issue.
35:13And I think that
35:15this issue of the Indian citizen
35:17also made manifest
35:19in the Dominican people
35:21the importance of this reminder
35:23that not only protocols
35:25but that the Dominican state
35:27strengthens the search capacities
35:29that, as we saw, exist
35:31within the Dominican state
35:33the possibility of doing it.
35:35I think that also from this
35:37House of One Plus One
35:39is the call to the National Congress,
35:41to the Congress of the Republic,
35:43to which is already, in fact,
35:45reintroduced the project of the Amber Code.
35:47Hopefully in this legislature
35:49it could advance and be approved.
35:51Because as you say,
35:53every day we continue to see cases
35:55in the media,
35:57in social networks,
35:59families that denounce it.
36:01And it is extremely important
36:03that there can be a specific attention
36:05of the Dominican state
36:07in response to this need.
36:09One last thing.
36:11I have a platform
36:13called change.org.
36:15I invite all families
36:17to join and sign
36:19the petition I have
36:21for the Dominican Republic.
36:23Very well.
36:25Thank you both very much.
36:27Our solidarity with you.
36:29And this program,
36:31both Stalin and I,
36:33in personal terms,
36:35we give you the order
36:37of what you need
36:39to give you follow-up
36:41and visibility to this case.
36:43Count on One Plus One
36:45and Teleantillas.
36:47Thank you very much.
36:49Thank you very much.
37:19Well, here we are
37:21like every Tuesday,
37:23in the Economic Tuesday of One Plus One.
37:25And what's new?
37:27Well,
37:29you know that there are
37:31pending things.
37:33The issue of reforms,
37:35the issue of the labor code
37:37that is still being discussed.
37:39And those are issues
37:41that obviously
37:43need to be resumed.
37:45I believe that the Dominican economy
37:47is in a stage
37:49that requires
37:51important reforms.
37:53Because there is also an international environment
37:55that still generates
37:57a lot of uncertainty.
37:59Uncertainty because
38:01we all know now
38:03the policy after President Trump
38:05assumed the presidency of the United States
38:07with a very aggressive policy
38:09of tariffs.
38:11He recently just
38:13threatened all countries
38:15that buy Venezuelan oil
38:17to impose a tariff of 25%.
38:19That has repercussions
38:21and is a message
38:23that Trump is sending
38:25perhaps not only
38:27to Venezuela, but also
38:29to Venezuelan oil buyers.
38:31There are two
38:33big countries that buy
38:35Venezuelan oil,
38:37in the case of China,
38:39a permanent buyer,
38:41but also in the case of India,
38:43that India
38:45entered that process
38:47of buying Venezuelan oil.
38:49And that already
38:51has an impact
38:53on international markets,
38:55because recently
38:57only that decision, that announcement,
38:59increased the price of oil
39:01basically
39:03by almost 2%.
39:05Although the price of oil
39:07has been well below
39:09the expectations
39:11of the government
39:13in its macroeconomic outlook.
39:15So there is still a great margin,
39:17but all this is part
39:19of this international context
39:21that in one way or another
39:23also impacts
39:25the Dominican Republic.
39:27So I believe
39:29that we also have to take into account
39:31situations that occur
39:33in the national environment
39:35of some
39:37amalgam of protests
39:39by culmination of works,
39:41and we all know
39:43the restrictions that the government
39:45has in terms of resources,
39:47in terms of the investment
39:49that it has to make
39:51in capital spending.
39:53That is to say that little by little
39:55an international environment
39:57is being formed that pressures
39:59the Dominican economy
40:01on many fronts.
40:03I believe that
40:05it is a matter of care,
40:07that I believe that
40:09many policies can change
40:11and can be altered.
40:13Sometimes you can make a
40:15plan and say,
40:17well, the Dominican economy has
40:19macroeconomic variables
40:21that are stable,
40:23but that can change
40:25because there is an environment that can pressure you
40:27and there are situations that
40:29in one way or another
40:31can also change public policies
40:33in the national environment.
40:35Basically,
40:37that process is being experienced
40:39and I believe that
40:41in one way or another
40:43the Dominican state and the Dominican government
40:45have to look for a mechanism
40:47to allocate more resources
40:49internally
40:51as a mechanism
40:53to accelerate
40:55the works, the termination of works,
40:57because I believe that can bring difficulties.
40:59In the international plan,
41:01since last week,
41:03there has been a little progress
41:05in terms of the possibility
41:07of stopping the Russian-Ukrainian conflict.
41:09There, the participation of the United States
41:11and of President Donald Trump
41:13has been decisive
41:15and it seems that finally, by Ukraine,
41:17with this call for attention
41:19so imperative,
41:21so to speak, in some way,
41:23this will be paralyzed.
41:25In some way, it contributes to the possibility
41:27that the macroeconomic conditions
41:29that derive us
41:31from the international context
41:33could be favorable.
41:35Yes, I think that this is a point,
41:37let's say, of light
41:39within the international environment
41:41that can have good repercussions
41:43at the level, not only of the national economy,
41:45but also of the world economy.
41:47We all know
41:49the role of Russia
41:51as a great producer of commodities,
41:53of hydrocarbons,
41:55and also
41:57that Russia,
41:59peace or not,
42:01is one of the third, let's say,
42:03powers at stake
42:05in this recomposition
42:07of the world economy.
42:09So, any situation
42:11that generates a peace process,
42:13I think it also generates
42:15a certain level of tranquility.
42:17Note that, in part,
42:19that price of oil
42:21that has come with a tendency
42:23to the low
42:25and that precisely
42:27rebelled a little.
42:29However, the fact that
42:31a possible peace
42:33and agreement
42:35between Russia
42:37and Ukraine is announced,
42:39I think that calms that market.
42:41And it is important because we are
42:43oil importers.
42:45And that is a clearly
42:47element that can
42:49bring, as a consequence,
42:51a certain level of peace and tranquility in that area.
42:53But that has its political
42:55consequences
42:57in areas such as
42:59the European Union,
43:01due to the issue and the fear there is with Russia.
43:03But in economic terms, it is positive
43:05because basically
43:07the indicators of the raw materials,
43:09such as the case of oil,
43:11the price of wheat,
43:13hydrocarbons,
43:15natural gas, oil,
43:17can tend to a considerable
43:19low.
43:21Professor, in another order,
43:23the visit of the
43:25International Monetary Fund.
43:27What is left for the country
43:29from that visit?
43:31You know that I think that
43:33a statement will come out in these days.
43:35It is very common
43:37in this type of mission
43:39that they are increasingly
43:41diplomatic, right?
43:43Yes, we have seen that.
43:45I think that
43:47they are quite predictable.
43:49One will know
43:51basically
43:53what the first notes are
43:55and then the points
43:57at the end of the proposal.
43:59They always start with the fact that the Dominican economy
44:01is an economy
44:03that has robust foundations
44:05in macroeconomic terms.
44:07However,
44:09there are still problems
44:11that we all know that
44:13one way or another they will point out.
44:15The issue of the electric sector,
44:17the issue of the need for the Dominican state
44:19and the government to have more resources
44:21to increase
44:23public investment.
44:25The issue of the
44:27increasing weight
44:29of the public debt interests.
44:31These are issues that will be there.
44:33Or two issues
44:35that are being discussed.
44:37The issue of tax exemptions,
44:39the tax expense,
44:41that there was a delay
44:43by some
44:45legislators
44:47to cut some
44:49tax expenses, some exemptions.
44:51And obviously
44:53these are the issues
44:55that will be
44:57present
44:59in these
45:01communities.
45:05Obviously, the issue
45:07of the need
45:09for the fund to point out
45:11some kind of tax
45:13reform.
45:15I don't know.
45:17Or to combat evasion,
45:19which are fundamental issues.
45:21But I don't think
45:23it will be a different statement
45:25from the previous statements.
45:27Because every time
45:29the fund comes,
45:31it comes across a reality
45:33which is that the Dominican Republic
45:35is still
45:37absent from pending
45:39reforms.
45:41The issue of the labor code,
45:43which you probably also mentioned,
45:45the issue of the
45:47failed tax reform,
45:49the exemptions,
45:51those are the issues.
45:53And for sure the fund will point out
45:55in a reiterated way,
45:57as it has done in
45:59previous situations,
46:01those absent issues, basically.
46:03The issue, finally,
46:05we are running out of time,
46:07but the issue of labor reform,
46:09which you mentioned
46:11is tremendously important,
46:13because just last week
46:15a report came out
46:17from the Central Bank,
46:19and one of the data was
46:21how in the Dominican Republic
46:23there is still an inequality
46:25in salary terms.
46:27A data that marked me,
46:2938% of those who participate
46:31in the formal economy sector
46:33earn less than 15,000 pesos.
46:35Yes, this is an economy,
46:37Millicent and Stanley,
46:39and the growth
46:41of the economy,
46:43that growth we are going to have,
46:45has been on the basis of a process
46:47of constraining the salary.
46:49That is the reality.
46:51And that is what has generated
46:53a process of salary inequality
46:55in the Dominican Republic,
46:57which is expressed
46:59when you look for
47:01the information of those
47:03who bid for social security.
47:05More than 75%
47:07of those who bid
47:09have an average salary
47:11of less than 35,000 pesos,
47:13and that truly
47:15reflects that
47:17salary inequality.
47:19That growth
47:21that we economists
47:23have been presenting
47:25is on the basis of
47:27a constraining of the salary
47:29of workers in the Dominican Republic.
47:31And that,
47:33even if you say it,
47:35that is the reality.
47:37One is not making any value judgments
47:39about it, but that has been
47:41the process of accumulation
47:43that the Dominican Republic has seen
47:45on the basis of a constraining.
47:47And the Central Bank once said
47:49in one of its articles
47:51that it publishes in an open page
47:53that the process of growth
47:55in the Dominican Republic
47:57had partly been the product
47:59of that constraining of the salary.
48:01Because in the end,
48:03growth is divided.
48:05Growth is divided.
48:07If you
48:09configure the economy
48:11in two groups,
48:13those who are the workers
48:15and those who are the entrepreneurs,
48:17then if the economy grows,
48:19someone stays with that growth.
48:21And if the salaries have been low,
48:23then who stays with the fruit of the growth?
48:25The other sector.
48:27That is the reality.
48:29Well, we are running out of time,
48:31but we are running out of time.
48:33Yes, we have had
48:35a lot of commitments
48:37in recent days.
48:39We recently had
48:43the board of faculties
48:45of the School of Accountancy
48:47and Administration
48:49of Latin America.
48:51And that took us a lot of time.
48:53Forgiven then,
48:55because it was for a good cause.
48:57Thank you very much for
48:59being with us on this Tuesday.
49:01You are active here on 1 plus 1 tomorrow,
49:03which is the navel of the week.
49:05We will be waiting for you again
49:07from 7 a.m. here on Teriantillas.
49:09Stay tuned.