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Sunday Morning Live 23 March 2025

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In this episode, I explore the implications of government welfare programs on personal health choices, highlighting how a substantial portion of Coca-Cola's revenue comes from assistance. I critique the ethical concerns of promoting unhealthy foods, questioning the freedom versus responsibility dynamic within welfare systems.

The discussion also examines anger as a form of hope in human relationships, using a listener's experience to illustrate how unresolved issues can perpetuate dysfunction. I critique cultural narratives that oversimplify emotional breakthroughs and urge listeners to confront painful realities instead of pursuing unrealistic hopes. The episode concludes with a call for deeper exploration of these themes through listener questions.

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Transcript
00:00:00Good morning everybody, Stéphane Molyneux from Free Domain, I hope you're doing well
00:00:06on this fine, glorious, beautiful morning, March 23rd, 2025.
00:00:19And I should go with your questions, yes, I should go with your questions.
00:00:27I certainly do have, I don't have the hats for sales I'm afraid, Steph, did you see
00:00:32all the influences on X that sold out to the junk food industry for a thousand dollars?
00:00:40Well I don't know, I've heard about that, right, so the surprise I suppose that people
00:00:46are having is that the Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Programs or SNAP programs allow
00:00:53people to buy apparently a lot of pop, soda, bubbly, whatever you want to call it, soft
00:00:58drinks, Coca-Cola, Pepsi and things like that, and if I read the statistic right, and I think
00:01:03I did, about 25% of Coca-Cola's income comes from government welfare money being spent
00:01:10on pop.
00:01:12Bah!
00:01:15Unbelievably wretched.
00:01:16It has, I mean, pop is the devil's brew, it's Satan ball sweat, it has no nutritional value,
00:01:22tons of sugar, and is just terrible all around.
00:01:28And I, gosh, I mean it was forever, 15 years ago that I swore off pop, I will maybe once
00:01:33a month have a Diet Coke, but that's about it.
00:01:36But I don't think that the, I don't think it's quite that way, I don't think they cut
00:01:40you a check and tell you what to say, like an ad, I think that there's just a donation
00:01:45and a suggestion, and if you're part of a think tank, the donation probably is to the
00:01:51think tank itself, and then the suggestion is, you know, well maybe you could help us
00:01:56out with this messaging issue or something like that, and you know, people just, you
00:02:01don't have to order every salmon to swim in a particular direction, right?
00:02:05You just have to give them a general goal and a swift current and they'll all just kind
00:02:09of line up that way.
00:02:13But you'd be deeply shocked, I think, at how cheap people are to buy.
00:02:19You'd just be shocked.
00:02:22Nobody, once or twice people approached me in the past with offers of this, that, and
00:02:27the other, and some of it was a lot, a lot of money, but I just, I wish I could say I
00:02:35was some big virtuous guy, ah, the temptation was immense, but I resisted, it's like, no,
00:02:43I just would never, was never interested in that, I'd much rather, of course, forge
00:02:49my own path, go my own way, all of that kind of stuff, and I just was never, I just didn't,
00:02:58and people stopped, right?
00:02:59I mean, and people stopped.
00:03:00Like, there were a couple of times I was offered, you know, quite a bit of money, but money
00:03:05has influence, right?
00:03:06She who pays the piper calls the tune, as the old saying goes, so I was just never particularly
00:03:14interested, but the idea that buying health-destroying food, or, I mean, it's quote food, I mean,
00:03:26at least half of what's available to people in America could barely be qualified as food,
00:03:31it's just a generic tax cattle livestock slop, it's barely food, I mean, the longer
00:03:39the ingredients, usually the worse it is for you, so the idea that it's a big freedom of
00:03:46choice issue to have people on government benefits be able to buy health-destroying
00:03:52food, you know, pop is bad for your body, it's bad for your teeth, it's bad for just
00:03:59about everything you can conceive of, and so the idea that it's just a big freedom issue,
00:04:05people gotta be free to buy what they want, it's like, well, not with other people's money,
00:04:11I mean, this isn't like a paycheck, right?
00:04:14Welfare is not a paycheck, welfare is coerced money from others, so the idea that, well,
00:04:19you should give people lots of choice, okay, great, how about we give, if choice is so
00:04:24important to you, right, then how about we give people the choice of whether to pay for
00:04:32the endless tsunami of single motherhood, can we give people a choice, if choice matters,
00:04:37right?
00:04:38I think that the choice of whether or not you fund single motherhood from here to the
00:04:41end of civilization, which is rapidly approaching in part because of the funding of single motherhood,
00:04:46so if choice is so important to you, then clearly and deeply and honestly, you must
00:04:53not focus on the choice of whether you buy this body, tooth, and brain rot called soda,
00:05:02you would say, can I choose who I support, right?
00:05:08Can I get a choice on my charity?
00:05:11That's where the choice is.
00:05:12But once you've crossed that Rubicon and said, well, no, no, no, you have to be forced to
00:05:17pay for whoever makes egregious mistakes, then the taxpayer decides, of course, because
00:05:27the taxpayer also has to pay for the health bills of poor people who consume a lot of
00:05:33that pop, right, that slop, right?
00:05:38And the lack of sleep, the impulse control issues and all of that that comes with bad
00:05:42food addictions.
00:05:43Your kid's got to pay for it in school with bullying and all of that, and then you got
00:05:48to pay for the health issues, and then you got to pay for a dental repair and all of
00:05:54that, so yeah, it's pretty terrible.
00:06:02And the fact that there would be, what was it, more conservative influencers who would
00:06:09be taking money and promoting free choice in the sphere of welfare is beyond confusing
00:06:18to me.
00:06:21All right.
00:06:27Sugar is a drug.
00:06:28You realize that when you get off sugar and your palate shifts, it's crazy, yeah.
00:06:33Would more greengrocers in places of convenience stores slash bodegas help wean people off
00:06:37junk if the healthy stuff was fresh, cheap, and convenient for urban living?
00:06:43Micro-apartment mini-kitchens we're buying from supermarkets are not available?
00:06:47No.
00:06:48No.
00:06:49No.
00:06:50No.
00:06:51I mean, it's an IQ issue as a whole, so you can't just fix that with making stuff available.
00:07:00You just can't.
00:07:02You just can't.
00:07:05So, I mean, this is like 30 years ago, a friend of mine who was more advanced in this stuff
00:07:12than I was at the time, we were in a convenience store looking for a snack, and of course,
00:07:18I was fingering all of the brightly colored, vacuum-packed slop from hell that passes as
00:07:24snacks on the racks of the convenience stores, and he just bought an apple.
00:07:29No, no.
00:07:30He bought a banana.
00:07:31Yeah, he bought a banana for 30 cents, and he's like, this is way cheaper than chips
00:07:34and way better for you.
00:07:35And I'm like, ah, illuminate, illuminate.
00:07:38Just pick up an apple, pick up a banana, and you're pretty fine.
00:07:44Yeah, we should pay for nutrition.
00:07:47Yeah, for sure, for sure.
00:07:50Good morning, Tom.
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00:07:57All right, so if you have questions, comments, issues, challenges, problems, please type
00:08:05them in the chat, but I wanted to talk to you about something as a whole, and you can
00:08:15let me know what you think.
00:08:21I was talking with someone the other day.
00:08:23He was really angry at his mother, although he hadn't seen his mother for years, and his
00:08:29anger was clouding his current relationships.
00:08:34So we talked about the anger, and what I tried to get across to him, I think I did, but what
00:08:45I tried to get across to him was that anger is hope.
00:08:54Anger is a form of hope.
00:08:56So if you're really angry at someone, you hope that your anger or some circumstance
00:09:01will have them suffer to the point where they then change.
00:09:09One of the things that happens to people without a conscience is they lose all their bearing.
00:09:14They lose any and all discomfort that might have them correct their course, and hedonism
00:09:20is basically when you lose your conscience, and because you lose your moral happiness,
00:09:25you must then go for mere flesh happiness, sex, food, drink, victory, dominance, climbing
00:09:34a hierarchy.
00:09:35Like when you lose your conscience, you turn to the flesh, lizard brain, and body hedonism.
00:09:44And so we have a hope that people will suffer to the point, like bad people, corrupt people
00:09:51will suffer to the point where they become good again.
00:10:02And so anger and the desire for revenge, the desire to see people suffer, is with the goal
00:10:09of those people, you know, bouncing, hitting bottom, and changing their course, and realizing
00:10:14that the way they live is bad, or wrong, or destructive, and then they'll turn the corner.
00:10:20They'll turn the bounce, turn the corner, and so on.
00:10:22And of course we know this with addicts, right?
00:10:24If you hit bottom and so on, wake up with a, what was it, a dead hooker or a live boy
00:10:29in some grungy hotel room, and then, you know, you'll change.
00:10:35So if we're angry at people, it's because we hope to some degree that our anger or some
00:10:45circumstance will inflict suffering on those people, and then they will change.
00:10:51But the great thing about getting older, I don't get to pull pretty privilege as much anymore,
00:10:56but I do get to pull experience privilege, XP privilege.
00:11:02I have leveled up in terms of experience, and I've seen the arc of people's lives, right?
00:11:08I mean, I'm going to be 59 this year, so I've seen the arc of people's lives.
00:11:12I know how this story turns out for just about everyone.
00:11:16I've seen people from the age of 11 until, you know, the sort of late 50s.
00:11:21I've seen the choices that they've made.
00:11:23I've seen the full map of people's lives.
00:11:26I've seen the older generation who are dying or on death's door.
00:11:29I've seen what the long shadows cast by early choices look like and where they lead to.
00:11:44And it is highly instructive, because bad choices are so destructive.
00:11:52I feel like I'm about to start rapping this morning.
00:11:56So, anger at people is mingled with hope.
00:12:08And have you ever had someone that you haven't talked to for years,
00:12:13and you still debate them in your head?
00:12:15I certainly have.
00:12:16I mean, I absolutely have.
00:12:18Whether that's my experience or a general experience is up to your confirmation,
00:12:23but I definitely have.
00:12:26So, the way that—and, of course, when we argue with people,
00:12:30we're hoping that we can find a key that opens a lock.
00:12:37And we're like the guy who really wants to access a treasure that's on the other side of a door
00:12:47that's in a giant wall that he can't get through.
00:12:50And the door has a lock.
00:12:54And we have 500 keys in a big old apartment building superintendent ring.
00:12:59And you try all the keys.
00:13:00You jiggle, and you've done this before, right?
00:13:02If you've ever had those locks, which, except you've got a couple of locks,
00:13:05they accept more than one key, and you jam a little, you've got to jiggle,
00:13:09but you don't want to break it off, and you don't want to make it worse.
00:13:11So, you delicately try your keys, and you go through laboriously and patiently.
00:13:17You go over your 500 keys, right?
00:13:19You try this.
00:13:20You jiggle it.
00:13:21You move it a little.
00:13:22You twist it.
00:13:23You blow on it for whatever reason, and you get increasingly frustrated.
00:13:27Well, I'll make the next one, the next one, right?
00:13:29And then, when you've gone through your 500 keys, you say,
00:13:32Oh, wait, did I—I must have missed one.
00:13:37I must have—right?
00:13:40So, then you start again, and you try.
00:13:43And, again, it's delicate because you don't want to break the key.
00:13:45You don't want to screw up the locks.
00:13:46You jiggle, move, jiggle, jiggle, twist, move, jiggle.
00:13:48And I've had—I actually, when I worked in a hardware store in my teens,
00:13:53I used to make a lot of keys.
00:13:55So, I know, like, if you make them right, they work well.
00:13:58But if you make them badly, and we've all had those locks,
00:14:01you've got to jiggle a little, move it around a little, and then it opens, right?
00:14:05So, you try again, and then you're pretty sure you've got all the 500.
00:14:08And now you're really frustrated because the treasure's on the other side,
00:14:10and you're getting angry, frustrated.
00:14:13What the hell, right?
00:14:14And you can't leave because you might get in,
00:14:16and there's a treasure on the other side.
00:14:19So, you try again, and you try again, and twist, and then you sleep on it,
00:14:22and you try again.
00:14:23At some point, though, you realize one of three things
00:14:31about the treasure that's on the other side.
00:14:34You realize one of three things.
00:14:35Either you realize there really isn't a treasure on the other side,
00:14:39and maybe you just gaslight yourself and say that
00:14:41so you can leave and go do something else.
00:14:45Or you recognize you just don't have the key.
00:14:48You just don't have the key.
00:14:49Now, maybe then you'll go and try and get another key,
00:14:51but trying to get another key for a random lock is pretty bad.
00:14:55Pretty bad strategy.
00:14:57Or you realize that the lock is fake.
00:15:06Right?
00:15:08Maybe you pry the door handle a little away from the door,
00:15:11and you realize there's nothing connected to anything.
00:15:16And this is after you've exhausted all the possibilities.
00:15:22But if you just keep trying keys, maybe you go and get more keys, and so on,
00:15:27then you're just incredibly frustrated and stuck and trapped.
00:15:30You know, Groundhog Day style, you're stuck and trapped
00:15:33and confined into trying.
00:15:36And it's maddening. It's maddening!
00:15:41Because you have hope.
00:15:48Now, it's a foundational argument or idea,
00:15:53but we cannot get the truth from liars.
00:15:58We just cannot get the truth from liars.
00:16:05And trying to get the truth from a liar is like trying to open a lock.
00:16:16You've got a bunch of keys. You've got a bunch of rhetorical tricks.
00:16:19Right?
00:16:20So we make this mistake, and Lord knows I have in the past.
00:16:23We try to debate with someone who has no capacity
00:16:29to comprehend another person's point of view.
00:16:34They lack empathy. They lack curiosity.
00:16:36They lack the ability to inhabit another person's perspective.
00:16:40So all they're doing is fighting themselves to win against you.
00:16:44They are fighting, not themselves, they are fighting to win against you.
00:16:48And this, of course, is like 98% of debates online or in person.
00:16:53And again, debating people who can't change their mind
00:16:55is more for the audience if it's a public debate.
00:16:57And I haven't had private debates with people
00:16:59who don't change their mind in decades.
00:17:01It's a public square.
00:17:03Sometimes it's just to change other people's minds.
00:17:09Debating people without empathy is pointless.
00:17:13They're not going to change.
00:17:15And they're just there to sow doubt within you
00:17:18in the intransigence of their position.
00:17:20To not have self-doubt is to have no free will.
00:17:25And people who don't doubt themselves don't have functional free will.
00:17:29They have theoretical free will.
00:17:30But they don't have functional free will.
00:17:32Functional free will is when you have the capacity
00:17:34to compare proposed actions to ideal standards.
00:17:36Could I do better?
00:17:37What is the standard by which I can be disproven?
00:17:39What is the standard by which I'll know certainty?
00:17:46If you pray to some sky-straddling hobgoblin
00:17:52for truth about the universe,
00:17:54you don't have free will to understand the universe.
00:17:56If you apply science, you might.
00:17:58Well, you certainly have that capacity.
00:18:06So, we hang around people and we're stuck in this
00:18:10try the key, try the key, try the key situation,
00:18:13jiggle it a little, wait for a different temperature, blow on it,
00:18:15rub it under your armpit, look for shavings, and so on.
00:18:19Just keep trying the key, keep trying the key, keep trying the key.
00:18:24We can lose years of our life, decades of our life,
00:18:27and some people lose their entire lives through this process.
00:18:31It's horrible. It's horrible.
00:18:36There's a way I can get in. There's a way I can get in.
00:18:38There's a way I can get to the treasure. I can get to the treasure.
00:18:41Now, of course, for most of us, if we had bad parents,
00:18:47trying the keys is conversation,
00:18:50and the treasure on the other side of the giant metal door is love.
00:18:57If I find the right combination of words,
00:19:05if I find the right key, I can open the door and get love.
00:19:16And you hope for that, as I hoped for that.
00:19:21And the media and movies, stories, and so on,
00:19:29they want you to waste your life trying keys.
00:19:36Jiggle, try, change, jiggle, try, change, jiggle, try, change.
00:19:43They want you to waste your life,
00:19:45because then you're fighting your own delusions,
00:19:50fueled on by your own hope, rather than questioning
00:19:53and philosophically opposing the powers that be.
00:19:59So one sort of key example of this is the movie Good Will Hunting.
00:20:05So in Good Will Hunting, Matt Damon plays a guy, Will,
00:20:12and Will is cold and violent and superior and trapped.
00:20:20But then Robin Williams talks about the abuse that Will suffered as a child.
00:20:26Will, he gets the key, gets the key, opens the door.
00:20:30Will's heart opens, he cries, and then he's great afterwards.
00:20:36He's relaxed, he's chatty, he's happy.
00:20:38He can go, like he punches, he's a violent guy,
00:20:41like he punches the wall next to Minnie Driver's head or the door
00:20:44or something, like he's a violent, volatile, dangerous guy.
00:20:47But then he has the key, it's very dramatic, right?
00:20:51The key opens, and he cries, and he's all better.
00:20:59And this is after Robin Williams, as the therapist,
00:21:03has tried a whole lot of keys.
00:21:09And you see this all over the place in movies,
00:21:13that there's somebody who is emotionally unavailable,
00:21:16something big happens, they learn, they understand, they grow,
00:21:20they have a breakthrough, and then their heart is open
00:21:23and there's not even a lock on the door, people can just come through.
00:21:27So you're programmed to keep trying keys and to fight a useless fight
00:21:40and to argue with the intransigent until death do you part
00:21:44from your own potential and ambitions.
00:21:47In the modern world, for sure, nothing in art is accidental,
00:21:52everything is for power.
00:21:56Everything is related to power.
00:22:11And the Matt Damon character, Will, is transformed from an astute analyzer
00:22:23of political power, where he's got this whole speech about like
00:22:26why would he work for the military-industrial complex
00:22:29and betray his fellow class denizens, into a simp
00:22:34who just drives across the country to go and see some girl
00:22:37that he previously terrified and was kind of abusive to.
00:22:47Because Matt Damon, the character in Good Will Hunting,
00:22:50is a pathological liar, he just lies.
00:22:53He goes through the list of his brothers, she's a little skeptical,
00:22:56he goes through the list again, he lies about his past, his history,
00:22:59his future, his potential, and it's terrible.
00:23:06But if he cries, everything will be fine.
00:23:11It's the same thing in Steel Magnolias,
00:23:16the woman, her kid dies, Sally Field has this big cry,
00:23:22everybody laughs, and everyone's better.
00:23:25It's this idea that everything's just kind of backed up or blocked up,
00:23:28and the tears, you know, like a poke at the eustachian tube,
00:23:33tears just, they flow, and everyone's better, and the door swings open.
00:23:36If you just find that key, damn.
00:23:41Just find the key.
00:23:49Just find the key.
00:23:52And people do this all the time, underperforming groups
00:23:55in the world as a whole, people have been,
00:23:58well, we'll just try these keys, right?
00:24:00And someone did it earlier, like, no disrespect,
00:24:02because we're all tempted by it, but someone did it earlier and said,
00:24:05well, if we just put fresh food in front of poor people,
00:24:08then they wouldn't eat crap anymore.
00:24:12It's like we had a demo, right?
00:24:15How do you open the key?
00:24:19Right.
00:24:22But see, some treasure is guarded,
00:24:25and some people put locks on to pretend there's a treasure.
00:24:33With regard to my own mother's heart, it was a desert.
00:24:41I worked at the lock,
00:24:45and what I got while working the lock for many years,
00:24:49and in three very specific conversations,
00:24:52what I got was that her heart was locked,
00:25:01not for me, but for her.
00:25:06She held the key, and she was never going to use it.
00:25:09She was never going to open her heart.
00:25:12And, you know, for reasons of tragedy, history, brutality, and choice.
00:25:18I mean, she was born pre-war Germany.
00:25:21It was a bad scene all around.
00:25:23She was seven when the Russians came in and raped everything,
00:25:25including locks, I think.
00:25:28So terrible, absolutely horrifying tragedies,
00:25:31and the world was burning to the ground when my mother was a child.
00:25:36It was very sad, very tragic, very horrible.
00:25:40And there were choices that come out of that, too.
00:25:44But my mother's heart, I think, was effectively burned to ash
00:25:49through the most brutal war in history and the aftermath of that.
00:25:57There was desert and ash on the other side.
00:26:04And she put locks on her heart so that she could avoid the ash within herself,
00:26:13and that made it look valuable.
00:26:17But because she did not want to confront the ways in which she was hollowed
00:26:22and burned out by war, circumstance, brutality, and choice,
00:26:28she had locks everywhere.
00:26:34And there was no love to be had in that situation.
00:26:39Even if I had found a way to open the door,
00:26:42she would have resisted like crazy
00:26:45because she did not want to see the desert that she had become.
00:26:48And in particular, when people have done significant wrong,
00:26:51the door welds to the frame.
00:26:54Especially when they've done it against children,
00:26:56the door welds to the frame.
00:26:58It becomes the wall.
00:26:59There is no separate door anymore.
00:27:01They cannot open that.
00:27:03The moment people pass beyond restitution, apology restitution,
00:27:07the moment they pass beyond that, in other words,
00:27:09when they do wrongs that cannot be undone,
00:27:11because we all do wrongs, but we can undo them
00:27:13if we note them quickly and make our apologies.
00:27:16But once you've passed beyond what you can fix,
00:27:23the door to your heart welds closed.
00:27:29And there is nothing on the other side but desert bones and horror.
00:27:40And then people fight like crazy to keep that door closed.
00:27:43Even if you open it a little bit.
00:27:48And I've done this with people.
00:27:50People who've done great wrong,
00:27:51I've managed to pry their heart open a little,
00:27:54and they get a glimpse of that, and then what do they do?
00:27:57They get a glimpse of that.
00:27:58Those bones.
00:27:59That ash.
00:28:00That desert.
00:28:02That horror.
00:28:07What do they do?
00:28:12They slam it shut.
00:28:21They slam it shut.
00:28:22Because they can't see the horror that they've become.
00:28:26So you are trying to open a door to an inferno
00:28:35to overwhelm you with the stench and the smoke of the bodies.
00:28:42You think you're trying to open a door to a secret garden,
00:28:45to a paradise, to a hug,
00:28:47and to unlock the good parent within, the loving mother.
00:28:51But when you open that door just a crack,
00:28:54and you see the howling horror beyond the door,
00:29:00it slams.
00:29:04And then the doorframe merges to the wall.
00:29:07It's never to be opened again.
00:29:11Most people,
00:29:14they cannot stand,
00:29:17they cannot stand to look at the horrors they've done,
00:29:22the emptiness, the programming, the recoil, the reaction,
00:29:25the lack of virtue or free will or love or affection or connection or loyalty.
00:29:30They cannot stand it.
00:29:34I mean, we all know this post-COVID, right?
00:29:37COVID is a world paroxysm of revelation
00:29:42on how people handled the wrongs that they've done.
00:29:51People, hundreds of millions of people around the world
00:29:55took medical advice from a guy who just had a presidential pardon back to 2014.
00:30:05How many people who did great and egregious wrong over the COVID era
00:30:11are even admitting fault, are taking responsibility.
00:30:16And all these people who do egregious, horrible, horrifying wrong
00:30:26won't admit fault, won't even have the conversation.
00:30:29That door is locked, merged, gone.
00:30:36Because people don't want to look in the mirror,
00:30:38and instead of seeing a decent person,
00:30:44they see a totalitarian, automating,
00:30:48clusterfuck of infinite compliance and betrayal.
00:30:56People lined up for pats on the head from the overlords
00:31:03while kicking and beating and stepping over the faces of the people who said,
00:31:08this is not right.
00:31:14And I think billions of people's hearts have been welded permanently shut
00:31:21and swollen.
00:31:25There's no reckoning. There's no going back.
00:31:30There's no undoing.
00:31:33There's no self-confrontation.
00:31:36There's no honesty.
00:31:37And these are the same people.
00:31:39When their kid does something wrong,
00:31:41like say their kid knocks over a lamp and then says,
00:31:43I didn't knock over that lamp.
00:31:44They say, no, no, no, you got to take responsibility.
00:31:46It's not that I'll be mad.
00:31:47I'll only be mad if you lie to me.
00:31:49Just take responsibility.
00:31:50I know you did it.
00:31:51I know you did it.
00:31:52Just take responsibility.
00:31:54Just take responsibility.
00:31:55Don't do all of this pathetic lying and obscuring.
00:31:57Just take responsibility.
00:31:59You failed the test, not me.
00:32:03You took money out of my purse.
00:32:05Just admit it.
00:32:06Just admit that you did wrong.
00:32:08That's what they lecture their children.
00:32:10And then when they have cheered and bade and voted for people to lose their rights,
00:32:23well, that door is sealed.
00:32:26That door is sealed.
00:32:28They cannot look in the mirror and see the true reflection of who they aren't.
00:32:38People have some degree of success seeing who they are.
00:32:42What they really can't see is who they aren't, which is virtuous, moral, honest.
00:32:47And they can't see the hypocrisy of saying to their children,
00:32:51you need to take responsibility for your choices and decisions.
00:32:55But I'm not going to talk about any of the egregious wrongs I did over the COVID era.
00:33:02Just lie.
00:33:04Just lie.
00:33:11So the anger keeps you bound to the dysfunctional people
00:33:15because you think you have a key, you think it's a real lock,
00:33:20and you think there's a treasure on the other side of the door.
00:33:25Now, are you ready for a goose bump?
00:33:28One of the most evil domains in all of human myth and literature is in Lord of the Rings.
00:33:41And I'll pair that with a contemporary of Tolkien's, C.S. Lewis,
00:33:47who had the entrance to Narnia in the back of a closet.
00:33:54So a closet has doors. The doors sometimes are locked or have a lock.
00:33:58But in the back, you think it's a blank wall, but it's a door.
00:34:01That's the fantasy that you go through and get paradise on the other side.
00:34:06But doors, as the analogy for empathy, are your doors open to others or are they closed?
00:34:16Are you narcissistic, selfish, solipsistic, blind to the emotional reality of others,
00:34:25huddled and hoarding your own greed at the expense of everyone else, an exploiter?
00:34:32The door is the analogy for infinite selfishness, self-regard.
00:34:45I am the only person that matters. You exist only to serve me.
00:34:53That's the genius of Tolkien, unconscious, though I'm sure it is.
00:34:58What is the name of Sauron's kingdom?
00:35:06What is the name of Sauron's kingdom?
00:35:14Is there an entranceway to paradise through a place where there's no door,
00:35:18like the back of the closet, in the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe?
00:35:23Mordor, yeah, Mordor. And this is how they pronounce it, not Mordor, but Mordor.
00:35:28More doors, there's more doors.
00:35:32And if you look at doors, they feature very prominently in Lord of the Rings, right?
00:35:41There's the round door, the Hobbit, right?
00:35:45Where Gandalf knocks, and that's how the entrance begins.
00:35:56Even though Gandalf has spells, could open the door easily.
00:35:59Gandalf knocks, and Bilbo and then Frodo open voluntarily.
00:36:05Yes, and you're right, speak friend and enter.
00:36:08So there's a door into Moria, which they cannot figure out how to open.
00:36:13Speak friend and enter, and what happens in Moria?
00:36:18The door is locked, the door is barred.
00:36:26The heart is closed, the heart is cold.
00:36:31Speak friend and enter, they go in.
00:36:35And inside is hell.
00:36:38Inside the mountain is hell.
00:36:41You follow?
00:36:46It's dead, there are bodies, it is a scene of a great crime.
00:36:51They are attacked, hunted.
00:36:57And a denizen of the underworld emerges and destroys the most powerful among them.
00:37:03Gandalf.
00:37:05The ball rock emerges.
00:37:08And they must flee a collapsing set of structures.
00:37:13Barely make it out alive.
00:37:18Speak friend and enter puts you into the heart of a narcissist where you will, if you're lucky,
00:37:23escape barely with your life and your sanity intact.
00:37:32Yes, they dug too greedily and too deep.
00:37:36See, the dwarves were looking for treasure in the depths.
00:37:47The dwarves were looking for treasure in the depths.
00:37:50And all they got was a demon.
00:38:03And the only way at Helm's Deep that the war was won was that the dishonorable soldiers,
00:38:10the ghost soldiers that Aragorn goes to get, fulfilled their vow and righted the wrong
00:38:18in their former betrayal of his ancestors, I think.
00:38:30And, of course, I talked about this with Dr. Duke Pastor that the ring in Lord of the Rings is sophistry.
00:38:40And everybody wants to use the power of sophistry or the state.
00:38:44Sophistry, which serves violence, is the state and the intellectuals.
00:38:50And, of course, Tolkien was an anarchist of the philosophical kind.
00:38:55And, oh, minus Tirith.
00:38:58Sorry, that was minus Tirith.
00:39:00So, the ring must be destroyed.
00:39:18And the ring is greed for the unearned.
00:39:23Aragorn has no magic, but earns his prestige.
00:39:35Hope is a psyop.
00:39:39Have hope.
00:39:40Have hope.
00:39:41Now, the last thing I'll say here, and I'm happy to take your questions,
00:39:47the last thing I'll say here is that why do we have hope?
00:39:58Why do we stay at the door?
00:39:59Why do we try the keys?
00:40:00Why do we feel the edges?
00:40:01Why do we wait and hope and scratch and beg and cry and lie in a fetal position and get up and try another lock and then break one off and have to find a way to pull it out and then try another key?
00:40:16Why do we do all of that?
00:40:18Why do we stay thinking we have a key that opens a real lock that leads to a real treasure?
00:40:37Somebody says, I confess I never read Tolkien or watched the movies.
00:40:44Yes, when we're talking about self-absorption, let's make it about you.
00:40:53And the demos keep flying.
00:40:57So, why do we stay and tinker and try and jiggle and waste years, decades, maybe even a lifetime?
00:41:13On the tripartite, unholy belief that we have a key to a valid lock that opens to a real treasure.
00:41:20Why?
00:41:29The real hope is not that we get love.
00:41:32The real hope is that we can avoid the suffering of loss.
00:41:39If you have a cold-hearted parent or parents,
00:41:46and you keep jiggling the locks and you keep trying to combo and you keep angry and frustrated and hoping and begging, pleading and raging,
00:41:56it's because the pain of walking away, of recognizing the keys are to nothing.
00:42:03The lock does not exist.
00:42:05The door does not exist. It's only painted, and there's no treasure on the other side.
00:42:10That we are trying to break into hell on the hope that heaven is on the other side of that wall.
00:42:31It's because recognizing that the keys are an illusion, the door doesn't exist, there's no treasure on the other side, is very painful.
00:42:41And to me, all mental dysfunction is based on the avoidance of legitimate suffering.
00:42:51To walk away from the door.
00:43:00Well, I mean, in Lord of the Rings, why do they want to go through Moria?
00:43:04Because it's very dangerous to go over the mountains.
00:43:11Now, that's partly, of course, because you want the drama of the bulrug chase.
00:43:27We want to avoid the brutal suffering of giving up hope.
00:43:40But if we're addicted to hope, we have no function of free will.
00:43:46Because all we're doing is trying the locks, trying the keys.
00:43:51If I approach it from this angle, if I try saying this word, then I can get the person to cry, to open up,
00:43:57and then their hearts will be available to me, and I will experience love, and I will be healed.
00:44:08But you understand that if somebody has only hell on the other side of the door, they desperately need you to keep trying the locks.
00:44:17They need you to believe that there's heaven in there.
00:44:20The only thing they have to offer you is an illusion of love in a fiery, acidic, empty, ashen heart.
00:44:30They'll never let you through that door, ever.
00:44:36They might whisper through the keyhole of the paradise on the other side, but they'll never let you open that door,
00:44:42because inside there are devils and bulrugs and death.
00:44:52It will not happen.
00:44:56It will not happen.
00:44:58And accepting that is very tough.
00:45:01It feels like dying.
00:45:03Because, of course, in the past, if we had accepted the coldness of our cold-hearted parents, if that's what we had,
00:45:10it would have meant a kind of death.
00:45:22Faith is belief in the opposition of reason.
00:45:25And faith is f-a-i-t-h, feel as if there's hope.
00:45:31Feel as if there's hope, f-a-i-t-h, faith.
00:45:43And a demonic song from George Michael.
00:45:46Well, I guess it would be nice if I could touch your body, and I guess not everybody has a body like yours.
00:45:56His faith is the flesh.
00:45:59Belief in the satisfaction of the flesh.
00:46:05Belief that the satisfaction of the flesh is the happiness that can be attained,
00:46:10to give up on virtue and focus on consumption.
00:46:17It does not work.
00:46:21It's a drug. It gives you an initial high, followed by a catastrophic low.
00:46:27Virtue gives you an initial low, followed by an increasing high over time.
00:46:35It is against hope that I have come to preach today.
00:46:42The door, the key, the lock,
00:46:50is the devil, is hell.
00:46:55See, you think you open the door,
00:47:01and you see heaven, and I'm arguing it's in fact hell, but the real hell is trying the locks.
00:47:07Because the devil doesn't care if you're not in pain.
00:47:12And this is why the devil keeps infecting you with hope for the impossible.
00:47:16Hope for the impossible.
00:47:17Boy, if we get government right this time, ooh, it's gonna be fantastic.
00:47:21Hope for the impossible. Hope that violence can produce virtue.
00:47:24Hope that begging for truth will produce truths from pathological liars.
00:47:33Hope that your needs will summon empathy from cold-hearted people.
00:47:38Hope that if people see how much you suffer,
00:47:42they will care when in fact, in general, they lick their lips and enjoy it.
00:47:52Hope is hell.
00:48:00Because good people who have escaped the door, the key, the locks, the delusions,
00:48:09don't want to go back.
00:48:10And as long as you're sitting there trying locks in the hope of heaven,
00:48:15while building up around yourself a paralysis of hell,
00:48:20they don't want to go there, they don't want to go back.
00:48:23They don't want to go back.
00:48:25Which means that you are alone.
00:48:27You're not exploiting people, which at least would give you some wretched company.
00:48:34You are isolated in hope for the impossible.
00:48:41In the mad belief, the cold, cruel, vicious, sometimes, and sadistic,
00:48:48often people can love you.
00:48:53Ah, if only they could, if only they could love me.
00:48:57Which would break the law of philosophy, morality, reality, and love completely.
00:49:09It's like the kids running around flapping their arms saying,
00:49:13I wish I could fly.
00:49:16But to fly would defy gravity.
00:49:19To defy gravity would have the earth spin into the absolute zero coldness of interstellar space,
00:49:28and everybody would die.
00:49:30If you could get your wish, the world would end.
00:49:34And if you could get your wish that cold-hearted people would be able to love you,
00:49:38the human mind, virtue, philosophy, reason, reality itself would break.
00:49:44If you have harmed children for years and have not apologized, you cannot love.
00:49:53All you can do is hide from yourself, hide from others, pretend to have value, and manipulate.
00:49:59That's all you can do.
00:50:03Nothing more, nothing less.
00:50:09Three and a half years ago or so, my father died.
00:50:13I had not spoken to him.
00:50:19Twenty-five years, maybe.
00:50:21I think I picked up the phone once or twice when he called, but had nothing to say to me.
00:50:26Would never address the issues that I'd brought up with him, ever.
00:50:35I left.
00:50:39Jiggling fantasy keys into non-existent locks, into walls that have but hell on the other side.
00:50:47I left that.
00:50:49That's Plato's cave.
00:50:50I left that.
00:50:52And inhabit the beauty and sunlight and high, clear-aired reaches of virtue and love and connection
00:51:06that I have and inhabit, and try to bring to the world as a whole.
00:51:18People who are avoiding their own crimes, and after a certain amount of crimes,
00:51:29you can only avoid yourself.
00:51:31You cannot ever be honest with yourself, and certainly therefore not with others.
00:51:34But people who have committed enough crimes, lose their free will,
00:51:39because all they can do is be defensive and manipulative and avoidant.
00:51:49They cannot connect with you, because connecting with themselves would be hell itself.
00:51:58And there's one more thing to say.
00:52:00The last thing that I'll say, perhaps the last, is that people do wrong to children
00:52:05because they believe that dangling the bait of hope will keep those children around forever and ever.
00:52:10Amen, and in general they're right.
00:52:15If hope is removed, then child abuse becomes almost infinitely unprofitable.
00:52:26Why do people abuse children?
00:52:28Because it works, and because they continue to get resources from those children for the rest of their lives
00:52:32with this dangling of hope.
00:52:36Obey me the right way and I'll love you.
00:52:38Do the right thing and I'll love you.
00:52:39Connect with me the right way and I'll love you.
00:52:41Get angry at me, it's fine, because anger represents hope of change.
00:52:47Want me to suffer? That's fine.
00:52:50But hope and its attendant resource provision is the reason why child abuse remains
00:53:03emotionally and materially profitable for the abusers.
00:53:06So every time you act on hope and try to unlock the hearts of cold-hearted people,
00:53:11set locks, set keys, set hearts don't really exist,
00:53:15you are rewarding people for abusing children, as have I.
00:53:20Again, I say this with all humility.
00:53:28But hanging around, trying locks, is a reward to those who hurt you.
00:53:36And that's why the world gets worse.
00:53:45All right, let's get to your questions.
00:53:47Thank you for your indulgence.
00:53:58All right.
00:54:08Incredibly frustrating to try and find the right key.
00:54:10Sure, absolutely.
00:54:16That makes sense, Steph.
00:54:19I can identify with anger being hope.
00:54:21It clouds my vision at times.
00:54:41Been following your work for a while now, big brain in that cranium of yours.
00:54:44Steve?
00:54:47Just like we cannot have love without hate.
00:54:55Yeah, people who tell you never to get angry, never to hate,
00:54:58are trying to provoke an autoimmune disorder for your moral defense systems.
00:55:14So if you realize that it is pointless to remain angry,
00:55:16but decide to remove that person from your life,
00:55:18does it technically mean that you are still angry?
00:55:20Well, but a lot of people will remove someone from their life
00:55:27in the hopes of punishing them so hard that they change,
00:55:30and that is not going to work.
00:55:35You know, like the woman who storms out and hopes that the man will chase her,
00:55:40and hopes that her storming out will be enough for him to change,
00:55:43or appease, or surrender something, or agree with her about something, right?
00:55:47So it's a tactic, it's a move, it's a move.
00:55:53So you run away from the door in the hopes that the person will open it and follow you.
00:55:57And that way the door will be opened by you leaving,
00:56:00not by you staying and jiggling.
00:56:02When you accept that there's nothing on the other side,
00:56:16but ash, bodies, sand and horror, then you walk away.
00:56:26Is wanting to make people suffer through anger a virtuous position?
00:56:29Look at anger as an emotional experience to someone,
00:56:31when I can't reason with someone.
00:56:33Is anger the justification for inflicting the suffering?
00:56:37Well, in part your anger would be wanting someone to suffer
00:56:41so that they can change and grow.
00:56:48But if people suffer because they've done wrong
00:56:51and refuse through vanity to admit fault,
00:56:54then the suffering is the punishment that they deserve.
00:56:59And most people who suffer don't identify the cause.
00:57:05In fact, they steadfastly can't identify the cause.
00:57:08They misidentify the cause.
00:57:10So my mother who suffers blames the doctors,
00:57:13blames the healthcare system, blames the insurance companies,
00:57:16blames whoever, right?
00:57:18But she can't identify the source of her suffering,
00:57:20which is her own immorality.
00:57:25The only thing more frustrating than those who can't think
00:57:33is dealing with those who refuse to think.
00:57:38Nope, says someone, the evolutionary reason for anger is to defend you,
00:57:42keep you safe.
00:57:43Rage, on the other hand, is counterproductive.
00:57:45Learn to listen to your anger and also to avoid rage.
00:57:48You always have the ability to make a choice.
00:57:52But without definitions, anger is to keep you safe.
00:57:57Rage is for when you have to fight, like physically usually.
00:58:00So try to avoid situations where you have to physically fight.
00:58:04A chilling thought, says Chris, to spend one's life key searching.
00:58:08True.
00:58:10Somebody says my biggest stressor is trying to know
00:58:12the actual perfect choice between different options,
00:58:15only to know that the only way to know that would be to know the future.
00:58:21Like which of two or three bus stops to use.
00:58:24That depends on which bus shows up first or shows up at all.
00:58:30But I don't understand.
00:58:32What is the perfect choice?
00:58:34I don't know what that means.
00:58:37You use principles.
00:58:39You use principles.
00:58:41You treat people the best you can when you first meet them.
00:58:43After that, you treat them as they treat you.
00:58:47Now, we have no choice with that as children.
00:58:49We have no choice with that as an adult.
00:58:51So I don't know what perfect choice means, but we act on principle.
00:59:00The scene on the park bench with Williams and Matt Damon is poignant.
00:59:04I wept while watching it.
00:59:05Can't recall if this is the same scene.
00:59:07Great movie.
00:59:08No, that's an earlier scene in Good Will Hunting,
00:59:10and the scene is where Robin Williams is telling Matt Damon
00:59:17about how he's seen people die.
00:59:19He's seen horrors.
00:59:20His friends have bled out in war and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right?
00:59:23And this gains his respect and so on, right?
00:59:29Which, of course, is to say that you cannot have credibility through integrity.
00:59:32You can only have credibility by being a paid death merchant of the state,
00:59:37and it's really sad.
00:59:38Someone says,
00:59:45sounds like those skill arcade games where you have to get the key and the rod
00:59:50through the hole to drop the prize, but knowing you spend more time.
00:59:53Oh, you spend more time trying to win than it was ever worth.
00:59:58The prize is not worth having.
00:59:59Unethical narcissist approval is no prize worth having.
01:00:02Yeah.
01:00:03Yeah, because the narcissist will only approve your subjugation.
01:00:06So the approval of the narcissist is the final click on the chains that bind
01:00:10you to him or her.
01:00:16Well, and I was, um,
01:00:17I remember when I was younger being at a fun fair with my daughter and there
01:00:22was a guy carrying around some giant banana that he'd won in one of these
01:00:25games. And I remember saying to her, well,
01:00:28that's going to sit in the basement for a couple of years,
01:00:31gather dust, and then get thrown out.
01:00:33Like he threw probably 50 bucks to get some useless banana that is going to
01:00:38sit around and get tossed.
01:00:43Somebody says,
01:00:44you're describing my exact conditioning from my childhood,
01:00:47learning to surrender to the reality that there is in fact,
01:00:50no combination of words that ultimately leads to connection with the wrong
01:00:53people is one of the most liberating light bulb realizations.
01:00:55It's somewhat easy to know when exactly to stop.
01:00:58I just go with instinct now.
01:01:00Yeah.
01:01:04This is so much more intellectual than what I'm used to on live streams.
01:01:07I would say not intellectual, but really emotional.
01:01:13My father rejected says someone,
01:01:14my attempts to communicate with him in life,
01:01:17at least of anything regarding my needs or opinions on anything deep,
01:01:22personal and important. Yeah. But it wasn't a rejection of you.
01:01:27See, when you exploit people, you have to dehumanize them.
01:01:30If they become human to you,
01:01:32then all of your exploitation arises in your mind and takes you down.
01:01:37Most people in the world are wrangling demons that want to take them down.
01:01:43This is why they're jumpy. This is why they're compliant.
01:01:45This is why they're defensive.
01:01:46This is why they have strange moods and rages and right.
01:01:49They are in a battle with the infinite demons of their violated conscience.
01:01:55So it's not that your father rejected you.
01:01:57It's that you couldn't become real to him because then his own cruelty would
01:02:00become real to him, which his ego could not handle.
01:02:08Somebody says,
01:02:09my parents' hearts and souls are like a crypt where ambition,
01:02:12passion, and an enjoyment for living go to die.
01:02:16It's a symbolism I used to see in my dreams and recurring dreams shortly
01:02:19before starting therapy. Well,
01:02:23I'm sorry to be annoying,
01:02:28but your parents' hearts and souls are not like a crypt because people don't
01:02:32hang around a crypt,
01:02:33hoping to resurrect those dusty parchment souls a thousand years dead,
01:02:41right? A crypt you go,
01:02:42maybe you pay your respects and then you move on,
01:02:44but people aren't trying to open it and bring the people back to life.
01:02:47And it's not like a crypt at all. A crypt is where we know the people are dead.
01:02:51Hope is when we think they can come back to life.
01:02:54There's an old D&D joke about how necromancers,
01:02:57they're just healers with a different timeframe, right?
01:03:00Because necromancers heal the dead. And of course,
01:03:02proper healers heal people before they die, right?
01:03:08Boomers wanted to lock down their grandchildren because they were scared.
01:03:12Well, yeah, but that was entirely predictable.
01:03:14Boomers have sold off their grandchildren for absolutely appalling benefits.
01:03:20In the short run. Thank you for your tips,
01:03:25by the way.
01:03:29You can see it on the app or freedomain.com.
01:03:36The amount of unrecognized child abuse over the COVID hoax tells us all a lot.
01:03:41Yeah, of course, because I mean,
01:03:44people weren't even particularly concerned with the fact that lockdowns meant
01:03:48that people being abused by the children being abused by their parents had no
01:03:52escape, even school, like they could not escape, right?
01:04:00Nobody cared. Nobody cared.
01:04:11When Aragon enters the ghost city, he says the way is shut.
01:04:15It was made by those who are dead and the dead keep it the way is shut. Yeah.
01:04:21Yeah. And Aragon of course is the,
01:04:23the ghost fighters is the idea that those who've done wrong will suffer enough
01:04:30that they will fulfill their virtues. They will reverse their betrayals.
01:04:38Hope says someone is a powerless position. It's passive.
01:04:41Perhaps it's because they don't have the willpower to create relationships with
01:04:44good people because they themselves don't have the treasure also.
01:04:53Hope is a powerless position as is trying locks.
01:04:57It could be argued.
01:04:58The idea of hope is actually more self owning than having no hope,
01:05:01i.e. hope exercises control over your circumstances versus victim of
01:05:05circumstances.
01:05:11That's beautiful. Jared,
01:05:12the door to their hearts is like eyes on butterfly wings meant to cause
01:05:17discernment to cease. Oh, nice.
01:05:20Steph is right. If you see hell is on the other side,
01:05:23then you immediately just get away from the person instead of just wasting your
01:05:26time trying to reach paradise. Yeah.
01:05:36Just think of the story of Pandora's box,
01:05:38a box with all the evils of the world, even hope. Yeah.
01:05:42Oh, yes.
01:05:50Says someone do what they do. What I say, don't think,
01:05:52don't ask questions, just obey and don't bother me.
01:05:55And with what you want in return,
01:05:57you won't be punished for trying to get my mother or quote mother to be a
01:06:00loving parent 49 years and stopped counting for it to happen.
01:06:05I was going to ask if they want you to join them in hell,
01:06:08but their reasoning doesn't matter. The reality is the lock doesn't exist.
01:06:13They want you to keep wanting them and they have nothing positive to offer you.
01:06:16So all they have you, all they have to offer you is the delusion, right?
01:06:22It's like makeup, right? Beauty comes from within.
01:06:26So they're saying, well, we can make you beautiful. It's like, no,
01:06:30no, they can't.
01:06:35I've been following some people who are trying to change church for the
01:06:37better, but they are picking at locks too.
01:06:39The church just X communicates them.
01:06:41And even then they still pick from the outside. Well, of course we saw this
01:06:44under COVID, right?
01:06:46So they're saying, well, we can make you beautiful.
01:06:48It's like, nope, no, they can't.
01:06:50The church just X communicates them.
01:06:51And even then they still pick from the outside. Well, of course we saw this
01:06:54under COVID, right?
01:06:57Which was the doctors who tried raising questions or objections or, you know,
01:07:00me or whatever, just completely right.
01:07:05Despawned, unspawned.
01:07:10That was elucidating. I'll be pondering that for a while. Thanks, Steph.
01:07:14Well, so this is what you need to do in your relationships.
01:07:17I strongly recommend this,
01:07:19which is to say without hope, what have I got?
01:07:29Without hope, what do I have?
01:07:35If I take away hope from this relationship, what do I have?
01:07:42That's a scorcher of a question. It's like a firestorm.
01:07:47It looks like destruction,
01:07:48but it keeps the forest healthy in the long run without hope.
01:07:53What do I have?
01:07:55If you've got a bad girlfriend or a bad boyfriend,
01:07:57and you just hope they're going to get better, hope they'll listen,
01:07:59hope they'll do what you want, hope they'll do the right thing without hope.
01:08:07Without hope, what do you have?
01:08:13I mean, it's the same with politics.
01:08:16Without hope, what do you have?
01:08:22Somebody says, Steph,
01:08:23why do they call you cold when you stop trying keys?
01:08:26I assume it's simply manipulation to have you keep trying and hoping.
01:08:28Yeah, for sure. For sure.
01:08:32Great line, a narcissist's approval is a prize not worth having.
01:08:34Oh, it's worse than not worth having.
01:08:38A narcissist's approval is a stamp of submission.
01:08:40If Stalin likes you, you are in his mental gulag already.
01:08:47Somebody says,
01:08:48my father while alive did get very angry with me when talking about mom.
01:08:51I said, like mother, like daughter.
01:08:53I knew her parents growing up.
01:08:55Dad's parents died when I was minus one and plus one respectively.
01:08:59Grandma and grandpa were not a warm couple slash household,
01:09:04only found out later.
01:09:07Grandpa was unfaithful.
01:09:08I can see now that maybe he married mom 33.
01:09:11Sorry. I don't quite follow all of that.
01:09:17Can you provide an example of justified anger in one that leads to virtuous
01:09:21suffering to the other?
01:09:22I'm very curious on this topic because I get pushed back on the anger issue
01:09:25from my Christian colleagues.
01:09:29Well, I mean,
01:09:30if somebody does something that's cold or,
01:09:33unfeeling or selfish, which, you know,
01:09:35happens I think to, to all of us,
01:09:38you try reasoning with them.
01:09:39And if they don't listen, you get angry.
01:09:40And if they're, if your anger startles them into self-reflection,
01:09:43like if your anger is rare and then you get angry, right?
01:09:48Somebody who's anger is rare.
01:09:49When they get angry, it means a lot.
01:09:51Somebody who's yelling all the time, boy, who cries wolf,
01:09:54like there's nothing there.
01:09:56So if you are scarce and scant with your anger,
01:09:59then when you do get angry,
01:10:01people will listen because you're serious about something and it matters.
01:10:04And you care about enough with them to get angry at their bad behavior,
01:10:08which is to say you want to free them from a delusion.
01:10:10And anger is the strength you need to pull,
01:10:12to pull them out of that delusion.
01:10:14And if they don't listen,
01:10:15you get angry.
01:10:16And if they don't listen,
01:10:17you get angry.
01:10:18And if they don't listen,
01:10:19you get angry.
01:10:20And if they don't listen,
01:10:21you get angry.
01:10:22And if they don't listen,
01:10:23then anger is the strength you need to pull the devil of self delusion
01:10:27off their neck, right?
01:10:34Do you think it's a good idea to ban swearing in front of children
01:10:37or is that too strict?
01:10:38Yes,
01:10:39I think certainly children should not be exposed to swearing until they
01:10:42get much older.
01:10:43There are no creams or potions to hide an ugly,
01:10:51cracked,
01:10:52fallen,
01:10:53rotting soul.
01:10:54I'm sorry to be annoying again,
01:10:56but let me just look at Megan Fox.
01:10:58That really is the heart of my question.
01:11:03Can one human person,
01:11:05A,
01:11:06cause virtue suffering unto another human person?
01:11:09B,
01:11:10is suffering just a natural consequence,
01:11:12not an active pursuit by person A?
01:11:17Well,
01:11:18sure.
01:11:19Yeah.
01:11:20I mean,
01:11:21I don't wake up in the morning hoping I'm going to get along with my wife
01:11:24or hoping I'm going to have a good relationship with my daughter.
01:11:26I don't have hope for those things.
01:11:28They are.
01:11:29And I make sure that I mean,
01:11:30I don't wake up in the morning hoping that I have some muscles I work out.
01:11:43So,
01:11:44but if my wife were ever to get angry with me about something,
01:11:47I would take it enormously seriously in the same way that,
01:11:53you know,
01:11:54once in every year or two,
01:11:56I'll get angry about something with friends or family and it really sticks
01:11:59and it really matters.
01:12:00And usually I'm right.
01:12:01Not always,
01:12:02but usually I'm right.
01:12:08Why,
01:12:09if Stalin likes you,
01:12:11are you already in the mental gulag because those people only like those who
01:12:15submit?
01:12:16Yeah.
01:12:17Yeah.
01:12:18Because it means you care about Stalin's approval.
01:12:19Now you may care about Stalin's approval because you don't want to die.
01:12:22We could be killed by him or thrown in a gulag,
01:12:24which would be often genetic death.
01:12:35All right.
01:12:36Um,
01:12:37let's see here.
01:12:38I think we're going to go to,
01:12:39um,
01:12:43yeah,
01:12:44I think we're going to go do a little bit of time,
01:12:46a donor only,
01:12:50and,
01:12:51uh,
01:12:52can take more questions there.
01:12:54So,
01:12:55uh,
01:12:56if you want to join that,
01:12:58uh,
01:12:59FDR,
01:13:00URL.com slash locals,
01:13:01FDR,
01:13:02URL.com slash locals.
01:13:03You can join there and let's see here.
01:13:06How do we do this?
01:13:08I'm so sorry.
01:13:09I should of course have remembered this.
01:13:10There we go.
01:13:11So it's going to go to locals supporters only,
01:13:13and I'll take your sort of even spicier questions.
01:13:17So we'll go there.
01:13:24So the stream will be for local supporters only in 25 seconds.
01:13:29Somebody says the point was dad got angry at my saying the phrase like mother,
01:13:32like daughter.
01:13:33I'm not even sure what my exact point was,
01:13:36but yes,
01:13:37that truth is deeper than I knew as a kid.
01:13:39They died around 2005.
01:13:43Okay.
01:13:44Yes,
01:13:45I'm afraid so,
01:13:46but come on,
01:13:47it's a couple of bucks a month.
01:13:48You can join and you know,
01:13:49it does help philosophy.
01:13:50And that seems like a pretty,
01:13:51pretty good thing.
01:13:52So I'll see you on the other side.
01:13:53Thanks.
01:13:58All right.
01:13:59So we're over here.
01:14:02Let me just go in here.
01:14:05All right.
01:14:08Okay.
01:14:14Well,
01:14:15freedom and provide loan payments for the people in rumble to sign up for
01:14:17locals.
01:14:18Yeah.
01:14:19This idea of going into multi-week payments for door dashes.
01:14:23It's pretty wild,
01:14:24man.
01:14:25It's pretty wild.
01:14:27All right.
01:14:28So this is a donor only.
01:14:30And I am,
01:14:32I was hoping he could have just stayed here.
01:14:34It says someone from rumble.
01:14:36That's kind of funny,
01:14:37right?
01:14:38Like I talk about hope is something that paralyzes you.
01:14:41And rather than go and sign up for a couple of bucks a month,
01:14:43he just hopes that I'll stay there.
01:14:45Isn't that funny,
01:14:46right?
01:14:47You get the demo.
01:14:48You get the demo right away.