Bobby Bones and Matt Cassel start with players working through offseason training and recovery and how wives can play a part. Texans WR Nico Collins drops by with an update on his hamstring and the process of installing a new offensive coordinator. Nico relives playing at Michigan under Jim Harbaugh then being drafted into the NFL. What expectations does Nico have for this season in Houston?
After talking about the craziest fanbases in the NFL, we play 'What Were They Like' with Matt telling a fun story about Doug Flutie and his drop kick PAT. Bobby chimes in with his Bear Grylls experience.
Bobby and Matt begin a 'Sports Movie Draft' by drafting their leader of the teams, followed by their athletic freaks and enforcers.
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After talking about the craziest fanbases in the NFL, we play 'What Were They Like' with Matt telling a fun story about Doug Flutie and his drop kick PAT. Bobby chimes in with his Bear Grylls experience.
Bobby and Matt begin a 'Sports Movie Draft' by drafting their leader of the teams, followed by their athletic freaks and enforcers.
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00:00We got lots to say. We got lots to say. We're glad you're here and we hope you stay, cause we got lots to say. Yeah, we got lots to say. Now here's Bobby and Matt.
00:22What's up everybody? Welcome to another episode. Coming up we have wide receiver Nico Collins who is just a straight stud. We'll talk to him about his upcoming season with the Texans and mostly if he's like back from being injured.
00:38It's weird Matt, like when you're injured and you're a pro athlete, there's a fine line of pushing it but also stopping so you can get back as fast as possible. Do you ever hit that line exactly right?
00:51You know, I think it's probably something that every individual is a little bit different, but you're always trying to push yourself so you can get back as quick as possible and get back into the OTAs, the offseason training.
01:03It's based on your injury and also the feedback that you have to give and be very open with, with your trainers, the medical staff and everything like that. But the minute you do start pushing too hard and then you set yourself back, well that's what you're trying to avoid at all costs.
01:21So there's a happy medium because obviously the recovery and these injuries now that used to be nine months, you see guys come back in four to five months. And so the methods of training and recovery has changed dramatically and also the different details that they use in the sports science and everything else has evolved.
01:43So you're absolutely able to see guys come back at a much quicker rate, but you just don't want to ever sacrifice that into injuring yourself again and setting yourself back in the process.
01:53Yeah, I feel like if it were a contract year, like there are probably a lot of variables. If it's your first year in a new contract, you're probably handling it different based on your security. Would there be accuracy in that statement?
02:10A hundred percent. I mean, if you're coming up on a contract year, I remember even when I was in New England, I subluxed my kneecap, which means it came out of place and went back in. And I already had surgery on this thing when I was in college because I did just that. But my knee was swollen like crazy, but I knew I got to play that year. Things went well, thought I might be up for a bigger contract.
02:31So I wasn't going to say anything because they were saying that you potentially need to go get a scope, do this, that, and the other. But I was like, no chance. Because if all of a sudden you go in and you have that injury that you can get through, but it's not significant to where you have to have surgery, then you try to fight that because you don't want teams to look at you and go, well, he's got the injury, so we're not going to pay him or we're going to go a different direction because he's injured.
02:56So you just have to kind of work through some of that stuff. And then after you get that contract, it might be a little bit different. You might be able to take a little bit more time because you don't feel like that sense of urgency, the rush, because you've been paid and that's just human nature.
03:09My last contract in media with the company, iHeartRadio, because my last deal was a five-year deal before the one that I'm in now, which is similar. But I was in the last year of my deal, and this is something I haven't talked about a whole lot, but it's similar in that I didn't want them to know.
03:25But I woke up one morning, and this is probably 16 months before my deal was up, but the negotiation starts with over a year left because there's so many small details inside of it.
03:39And so I didn't want them to know, but I woke up and I couldn't read one morning, meaning I remember nothing happened to me except for when I opened my eyes that morning and I opened my computer to start working on the show, on the radio show, which I wake up at like 3.30 or 4 in the morning, I couldn't read the screen.
04:00And I thought, well, this is bizarre. I have a terrible vision anyway. My right eye doesn't work. So I just thought maybe this is a vision thing. I get to work. I still can't read. My thoughts aren't really connecting.
04:12And I remember going to my co-host and going, hey, you have to cover me. Something's wrong with my eyes. Like that's what I said just to get through it. And so she's like, cool. And so she covers me the whole show.
04:22I call my doctor and he's like, hey, I think you should go see a neurologist. So I go to a neurologist and they do all this stuff to me on these tests. And he says to me at the time, he says, hey, I think you had a seizure in your sleep and this could happen at any time.
04:36And I'm like, well, that sucks in my sleep and it could happen at any time. Like what led to this seizure in my sleep? And he's like, there's a hundred variables.
04:46He said, so let's just knock out, you know, make sure you're eating right. It's very general because my, this neurology wasn't like my close doctor. So, okay, cool.
04:56I slowly, it takes about three weeks to where I can actually read words on a page. Again, I could get them a little bit. I still, I was not, my brain wasn't connecting and I wasn't telling anybody at work about this because I, again, it's basically contract here.
05:11And so it happens again. And I remember saying on the show, I was like, I have crazy brain fog. Now this is like 12 months now, this was a few months, four or five months later, I had crazy brain fog.
05:28I said it on the air and I think I was struggling a little bit with communication and there were things at the time, not everything, but there were things like I would see this yellow thing on the table and I would go, I know what that's called. I just can't place it. This yellow thing was a banana, right?
05:41It's something that we see all the time every day, but I didn't know the name of the banana. And so I was like, man, this is bizarre. Maybe I had another seizure in my sleep.
05:52At the time I was doing Idol and they asked me to go and be on Dance With The Stars. And so I go over, I'm on Dance With The Stars and I remember I couldn't remember any steps on the show the whole time.
06:06Like I couldn't remember, I have a pretty good memory, but I could remember no steps. It wasn't a good dancer anyway, but I had to muscle memory everything, which means two or three hours for somebody turned in like nine or 10 for me because whatever your brain does to memorize things,
06:21you have it. I couldn't remember people's names. So it happens one other time. And my wife who we had just started dating and I was telling her about this because one had happened a few months prior to meeting her.
06:34She was like, hey, that ain't normal. This has happened three times. I'm like, yeah, but I can't, I don't want to work because I don't want them to think this guy that we're paying a lot of money to, to be able to think and create and be compelling and be funny that he can't do it.
06:45So I'm hiding the injury basically, just like someone with a hurt knee, like you mentioned with you. And so we connect with a neurologist, like my agent's like, hey, I know somebody whose dad's a neurologist. Turns out I had blood clotting in my brain. I had three small strokes over like five years.
07:02Oh my gosh. Exactly. I didn't know that because I wasn't trying to even know, because I was like, if I don't know, I'm not holding back. I don't want my company to know. And so I, you know, got on medicine. I still a little bit deal with it. I can tell when I'm having really bad days, but I hid it because I did not want my company to know.
07:20I had had these three, they're called ischemias, blood clotting in my brain, many strokes to where they would go. Well, we don't think we can pay him what we think for the same exact freaking reason, because I thought they're going to think that I don't have the capacity to perform at a high level, the high level I've been performing at. So I hid the crap out of it. Now, had this been year one of my contract, I'd have been like, I'm having strokes. I'm having strokes.
07:48I need out of here for four months. But that was tough. That's the closest I've ever been to a pro athlete trying to hide a knee injury right there.
07:56I mean, that's a little bit more serious when you can't remember what a banana is or the names of people. That's pretty weird. And at the same time, really scary. And that would make me like super afraid. Like what's going on here?
08:09At the same time, like you said, when it comes down to these corporate groups or a team or anything like that, any little thing that they can put a liability claim or something like that into your contract that says if he has another one, we don't have to pay him or he has to pay back the monies that we've already paid him or something like that, where you're just trying to avoid that at all costs.
08:28Because you're right there at the finish line to finish the contract and you're like, well, I don't want them obviously to hold anything back because I've earned this. But I do have a little bit of something here, a little baggage. In your case, little strokes that might impact that.
08:45Yeah. I didn't want them to go, hey, we love you and you've outperformed your last contract, but we don't feel in all good faith we can pay you as much as we would have with this quote injury that you have now. Because if I were the corporation, I would do the same thing I was worried about them doing to me. So understood it, just hit it. And I'm basically a pro bowler. That's what we're getting to.
09:10Basically recovered and we're all good now and they are very happy. Now, did you ever actually tell them about any of this or this is going to be the first time they're hearing it?
09:18It could be the first time they're hearing it. I've only talked about it once or twice ever, but I'm so deep in this contract now. But what it turned out, because all this gray matter in my brain that was all jacked up, it was just from sleep. I didn't sleep for years and years and years.
09:31And my doctor was like, Hey, um, I can see like the exact, maybe not dates, but those how long it's been since the last ones. Cause of the, my brain, they'd showed me on a scan and he was like, I bet you had one like seven months ago. I bet you had one because of, again, the gray or white matter. And now, but I got like years left. So if they were to say something now, I'd be like, ah, what are you going to do? Yeah, I got three years left in this deal. Yeah.
09:58I can't remember a banana. Exactly. How many times are we talking about bananas every day? You know what I mean? My wife does. She like keeps me in line though. Like if I'm, I, if I'm starting to even feel it, like she kind of cracks the whip. How was your wife with you playing ball in that? Was she, cause my wife's super supportive, but also if I'm like overdoing something, she knows that my goal is to be the best version I can be professionally. And she'll go, you're overdoing yourself. You're not going to be as good as you want to be because of what you're doing right now.
10:27What was that relationship like?
10:30Well, she understood the athlete's mindset. She, her also, her one rule was, look, if you go down, you get up. If you can, regardless of how bad that injury is, if you can get up, then get up. Like don't sit on the field. And there was only really one time I can remember that I didn't get up. I got a concussion against Baltimore where I got knocked out and she understood that it was something a little bit more serious.
10:52But even when I broke my foot, I got up, hobbled to the sideline, even though it was super painful and got up. And so that was her one world. She's kind of a badass in that circumstance. Like the, it almost reminded me of the girl from any given Sunday, like you're the goddamn quarterback, you know, the team and stuff like that.
11:11So she just, she, she pushed me to be the best, but she was also on me about my nutrition and this, that, and the other, and was always there anytime I need her. Even in the off season, when I go to a new team or something like that, she would quiz me the plays. So I'd give her the list of plays. I'd be like, look, I need to get quiz on these because I need to be able to say this and regurgitate it in the huddle. And so she'd quiz me. So she was, she was on board. She was down for whatever.
11:33D one athlete wife. That's awesome. Where for me, my wife, great athlete, but like, she has like a family where I didn't. So I was like, if I don't need to take care of myself, like if I, something happens to me, who cares? Where she was like how your wife was instilling what she knew because she was in that life as well. My wife was doing that as well. Like, Hey, you now have a family, you moron. Like you need to take care of yourself because if not, you're going to be dead and you're going to leave us all here.
12:01So yeah, here's the good women. If we had something to toast, we toast good women right here, but, but we don't. Yes. We're coming back with Nico Collins. We'll take a quick break. A wide receiver, Houston Texans, Nico Collins in just a second. Boom. And then we'll do one more thing. We'll be done. Yeah. Hey Matt, who do you think has the craziest fan base?
12:21Oh, I mean, the bills have to be up there with the bills mafia. There's no doubt about that. Um, Philly, Philly, Philly and the bills. I'd probably say those two, maybe the Las Vegas Raiders with the black hole and everything. Seattle Seahawks are a wild place to play. That's a good one. Yeah. I mean, because they've got, they retired the number 12 because of the 12th man. That's their big deal up there. And I think that they, they, they have to pump artificial intelligence into them.
12:49It's wild. The 12th man is a good one, which I don't think I would've gone there. I'm glad you did. Did you ever play in Seattle? Oh yeah. Multiple times. And it is loud as can be. And it's always dreary, little bit damp, you know, and when they had the Legion of boom, that place was rocking Marshawn Lynch, that whole group. I mean, they were good, good football team. How is it? And I guess I should say, where is it?
13:18When it is so loud, like how, is there a difference in deafening and really loud and just kind of loud? And does it affect play? It does. Cause communication, when it is so loud, particularly when you get to some of these end zones, like in Seattle, um, even New Orleans, when they were at their height, they were so loud.
13:40And particularly in the end zones, that communication, because so much is going on, particularly if you're a quarterback in an offensive unit, that you identify the linebacker to set protections and set the front, that everybody's got to be communicating. And you're not using cadence. You're all on silent count, because if you use cadence, everybody's going to jump offsides. And you see it often if they try to use cadence and it's too loud. There's just some guy that gets a little bit jumpy. So you're waiting for that ball to move.
14:05So under center, I literally would slap the center's butt. He'd bob his head and snap the ball. And that was the indicator. And then the wide receivers on the outside, all they're looking at is looking in to see the ball move. They don't even concentrate on the slap or anything like that. And then when you're in the gun, you're using a foot. So you can go silent one, silent two, silent three in some cases, and everybody's got to be on it.
14:28But it definitely changes your communication, because when you're up at the line of scrimmage, you want to change protection. That's when you see the old school clips of Peyton Manning running up and down the line, communicating to everybody, being very demonstrative. Well, that's because communication is key to getting it done.
14:43When you say you use the foot and shotgun, what do you mean?
14:48So when you're standing back there, the indicator, you either have the guard or the center sometimes will look through his legs, and you're literally lifting your leg up, one leg, and that's silent one. Silent two would be two lifts. So you go like this, he goes down, bobs his head, comes up, then he looks back down, bobs it again, or you have a guard tap him. And so that's how you would start the cadence. You would use no cadence whatsoever. It was all silent count.
15:12So you're telling me there are instances where the guard is watching so he can tell the center what the silent count is.
15:18Yes, because I think it's a better method, to be honest with you, because the center controls the front. He's setting stuff after I will identify, hey, the middle linebacker's here, so I set it originally, but he's talking to the guards continuously, and it's getting passed down like, hey, watch this guy coming down here, or the game, or whatever it might be.
15:38So as the center keeps his eyes on the defense, the guard looks back, and all he does is he taps the center on the side, and now the center knows it's time to go. And so they're both able to get their eyes on the defense for the most part.
15:52I think I do feel like I learned something. Like, I feel like I'm mildly knowledgeable, but I didn't know, because I've seen the leg lifts and knew that one or two, but I never knew there were other eyes. It's like in your neighborhood, the neighborhood watch where people are out at night, like we have the neighborhood, the guard is the freaking neighborhood watch for the center and the quarterback.
16:10Yeah, you'll see these guys look back like this, and you'll see them just kind of put their hand out. Sometimes they'll even put it out in front of their face like this. So that's the indicator that we got to get going.
16:20Another one of the teams I'd put out for fan bases is the Packers, because one, you got to be crazy to go to games that cold. Are they loud?
16:28They're relatively loud. I mean, the coolest part about it is the historic value of that place and so much history. You're walking down, all the locker rooms green, but then the Lambeau Leap and everything that they have.
16:44They're loud, but I wouldn't say they're as loud as Seattle or even a Kansas City. When Kansas City's rocking, that fan base will get after you. There's some really loud stadiums. There's no doubt about that, but I would say that they're not as loud as, like I said, Seattle, Kansas City.
17:02Pittsburgh gets loud, too, with the terrible towels. I mean, and the other part about Pittsburgh, they travel. We've had games in Kansas City before where there's more than half the stadium dressed up in Steelers outfits. I'm like, I thought this was a home game. What is going on right now?
17:16I do want to do another edition of what were they like, which, by the way, do you have somebody else I can ask you about?
17:22Yeah. Gosh, I'm trying to think of what were they like. Who would I go with?
17:29If I were just to ask you randomly?
17:31How about Doug Flutie?
17:33That's good. I like that.
17:34That was awesome. Go Doug Flutie.
17:36And then you asked me about Bear Grylls.
17:38Yep.
17:39Okay. People liked us last week. Let's do another edition of what were they like, where I just pick somebody that I think you knew and you tell me what they were like. And this week, I pick, tell me about Doug Flutie.
17:53Doug Flutie. Dude, this guy was a legend. When I showed up to New England, he's 41 years old, and he's not big in stature. I mean, he's probably 5'10", might be generous, 5'9", but he had an absolute cannon for an arm.
18:09And I'll never forget, I come in the first day. I'm coming in as a rookie. I'm walking up, and he pulls up in an old-school Trans Am with an Eagle on the front. He lived in the 1980s, dude. He had the hair flow, and he was like a little kid.
18:25I mean, he loved every sport. He played in pickup basketball. He played in the hardball baseball league at 41 in the offseason. And he'd come in, and he'd tell you all of his stats. He was like a little kid. He'd tell you all of his stats, how many innings he pitched, the people he stole base.
18:40He'd go out to Fenway, and before games, he'd go down there constantly and just shag balls for batting practice. He was a legend. And I'll never forget, it was the end of the year that year. We're playing Miami at home, and I got to play for three quarters, and the crowd was getting frustrated because they wanted to see Flutie.
19:02It's Boston, Boston College. He's a legend there. Flutie could do this thing called the dropkick, and it hadn't been done for God knows how long, 30 years, whatever it was. We go down, and I throw my first touchdown pass of my career to Tim Dwight on a little return route. He falls in.
19:20Well, Doug Flutie runs on the field, and he's going to do this dropkick because Bill's a big historian, so he's like, can you do this in a game? And Doug's like, yeah, I'll do it. So Doug lines up behind the center in a shotgun snap, and everybody is going wild. And the defense doesn't know what to think because we're in a field goal formation with just Flutie back there.
19:40And he drops it, hits the ground, kicks it through the uprights for a PAT, does the dropkick. So now it's like Super Bowl winning type stuff. The crowd is all, now I come back out for the next series for the two-minute drill, and they're booing. They're so pissed off that Doug Flutie is not back in the game. I'm like, come on, guys. I mean, he went in for the dropkick. It was awesome, but can I just, can you give me a little bit of support right here?
20:04No, no, they're going, Flutie, Flutie. It was great, but he was a great teammate. Funny as hell, I mean, I will say in meetings, he was one of those guys that's old school, right? He wants to block it up and throw down, so we'd be going through the game plan sometimes. And after Brady would get going through his favorites, they'd get to Flutie, and they'd be like, all right, so if you get in there or if something happens, what do you want me to start?
20:29He's like, look, just block it up and call. He goes, I'll make it work. And he was just that kind of dude. I was laughing my ass off, though. He was a funny, funny dude.
20:38All right, you're up.
20:39All right, Bear Grylls. Tell me some good Bear Grylls stories.
20:44So Bear Grylls has a show. He has many shows, but he has a Running Wild with Bear Grylls where he takes out celebrities and takes them all over the world to places and basically sees if you can die. That's what it felt like anyway. And I got a call and says, hey, do you want to do Running Wild with Bear Grylls on Nat Geo on Disney Plus? And I was like, I don't think so. Like, I'm good. I'm not for adventure. I had enough of that my whole life growing up.
21:10And they're like, no, no, no. I don't think you understand. Like, he only really asks famous people and you're not famous, so that would be cool for you to do. That's how it was positioned. And I said, oh, okay. And so I begrudgingly said, yeah, sure. Thinking we would go to like New Orleans or Las Vegas into a dune or something. And they were like, all right, we're going to go to Norway. I've never been to Norway. Long trip. And it's like, you'll be there for two days. You're in the wilderness. It's cold.
21:39But you'll land and off you go. And so I'm like, all right, cool. So I get on a flight. We fly to Norway. Let's like fly to Paris and then Amsterdam and then a small town in Norway and you get off. It's beautiful, by the way, but you land and it's just right into the show. So as soon as I land, I throw my bags in a room and they're like, all right, let's go. I haven't met Bear or anything. And so I watched a couple episodes on the way, on the flight, just to kind of see what was going on.
22:07And I'd seen a couple, a few years prior, but it wasn't like I watched all the Bear Grylls episodes. So a little bit, I had to reintroduce myself to what was about to happen. And I didn't like what I was introduced to because I was like, I don't want to do this stuff. I hate heights. And so we're in a foreign country and they're like, just go and he'll join you. And all of a sudden I see a helicopter flying over the top and here's Bear like hanging off the side of it. And he's like, all right. And the helicopter's still running. And he's like, clip on right here.
22:36And I'm like, what? He's like, clip on right here. Nothing, not met him, anything. All I hear is this guy yelling at me and I clip on. All of a sudden the helicopter's lifted us off. Right? And we're like, just hanging from the freaking helicopter flying over nowhere. I'm like, oh my God, I hate heights. And there's, it's literally a clip from me falling to my death hundreds of feet. So we finally land and it's freezing cold and it's raining the whole time. And my adrenaline is pumping, but I don't know why, because I don't know where I am.
23:06I don't know what I'm about to do. And so we just start hiking. We have like 20 miles to hike that day to get to our end destination. And part of it is going through water. And again, it's probably 37 degrees and it's raining. And so we go and it's wet. And I'm telling you, it's not like there are producers following you around, giving you like tootsie rolls or blankets.
23:31Like it's as legit as it possibly can be, unless you like tap out. And so we're going and we're going through marsh and I like fall and I'm wet. My whole leg's wet. It's less than 40 degrees. Bear's really nice. But again, we're shooting a TV show and we're trying to get to our place before dark. And we come across this disgusting rotted goat and it's a floating on the water.
23:56And what we were looking for were like some birds or some plants. Cause he was like, hey, we're going to try to find some birds to eat. Cause then we'll cook them and eat them. Cause he's, you know, he was on like special forces in like the UK. And I'm like, great. This part, no problem with. Grew up in the woods in Arkansas, hunted my whole life, whatever you need. So we're going through, but it's a rotted goat that's poking out of this cold water. And so I have to go and wade. I don't have any extra socks. Wade to this goat.
24:23We drag it to the land and bear is smart enough to know, well, if that side's rotted, the other side is going to be perfectly preserved because the water's cold. So we pull it, we flip it over. He's absolutely right. It's perfectly preserved. And he's like, he's like, I'll, I'll skin this. Cameras are with us, but the cameras aren't allowed to like talk with us. We're not allowed to talk to the cameraman at all. And he's like, have you ever used a knife? And I'm like, oh, I can clean this animal. He didn't know that I'm like a hillbilly, like growing up.
24:50And he's like, you can, you can clean an animal? However, I don't have a good British accent. And so like I freaking cleaned the goat, like half the goat. And yeah, I was able to like, and he was so shocked by that. And I think a little bit, his outdoorsman respect of me went up a notch. I didn't deserve it, but it went up a notch and we're like going off cliff. It was miserable. I'm coming off like off ropes. We're falling off 400 feet cliffs.
25:19And we, we get to the end of the night. Cause you do a full like 12 hours. You sleep out in the, in the wilderness. And then you have another like six hours the next day to get to the final spot. And the best part of it was after I would like, I'd like kill myself all day. It felt like, and have died multiple times. It was just bear and I sitting at a fire, no cameras. They don't put you in a hotel or anything. You literally are out there in a tent.
25:43And we just sat around and talked for like four hours was like the greatest dude. Like so generous with the stories. Well, he's like talking about good celebrities, difficult celebrities was so like open and like vulnerable. Like I loved the dude. I ended up doing the show the next season as well. But that whenever we were leaving the next day, he was like, you ready to get back on the helicopter. And there's a clip of me getting back on the helicopter and the helicopter being funny.
26:12And like doing like one of those go straight and then jerk. And it like swings you. And you see me just swing out of the helicopter, dude, the worst. He was super kind. I felt like I died many times. It came back to life and did it again the next year. I think there were only two people that had done it twice. Me and Channing Tatum were very similar, especially with our shirts off. But he, he couldn't have been kind. And we, we keep in touch and Bear Grylls is as nice as he seems on the show.
26:41So that's my Bear Grylls story.
26:43Dude, I love that you did that show. Cause I would watch that show religiously. Like, I wonder if that would be fun to do, but it did look like you guys were out in the elements that I didn't know it was two full days, 20 miles of hiking, but they find random food. You do all that stuff, but it's definitely a mental grind without a doubt.
27:01Well, they also probably know what your weaknesses are and they challenge you on them. So I hated heights. I made a mistake of saying that. I was like, yeah, I'm good. Everything, but height. So it was all heights. It was all frigging heights. It was like, what can we find to throw him off of that will make him possibly cry. And so, yeah, if anyone's wondering Bear Grylls and Doug Flutie, A plus.
27:22A plus, A plus individuals.
27:25Boom. Good. And then we'll do it out and we'll be done.
27:28Okay. All right. That's it for this week on lots to say. We appreciate you guys. Please subscribe. Go over to lots to say on wherever you listen to your podcast. It could be a radio. It could be Spotify. It could be Apple music. If you don't mind subscribing. And if you'd like to show, please share it on your Instagram story. That would mean a lot to us. And if you don't mind giving us a review and five stars, that would help tremendously as well, because we're going to be very honest with you. That affects the algorithm. We need the algorithm to push us up so more people will like us.
27:54And we're going to be honest with you so we can keep our job. And that's what it's all about. So thank you so much. Kickoff, Kevin, executive producer, Reed Yarberry running all the video. He is Matt Castle. I'm Bobby Bones. And we've had lots to say. Goodbye, everybody. How are you feeling physically? Where are you now?
28:09I'm in Houston, man. I just got back yesterday, starting the off season program, cranking back up. So feeling great.
28:17How's the hamstring? You still able to run on it fully now?
28:22Yeah, I'm good now. 100%. Feeling great. Can't wait for this year, man. I feel like it's a great year. Starting year five, new OC, you know, great team, you know, so can't wait to get started. I feel like the energy right now is nice.
28:37When there's a new OC, like how much installation happens preseason versus how much once you guys all get together, like early ball?
28:47Yeah, it's a lot. I feel like when the OC first comes, you know, he want to get the base foundation started, you know, he want to get the run game, you know, the pass game situation.
28:59So I feel like the first OTAs, man, it's really just getting the foundation started, you know, the quick game, you know, the intermediate routes, the medium routes, you know, just getting stuff down.
29:08You know, really finding the rhythm of things, you know, really see how things gonna be ran, you know, once we transition from OTAs to camp.
29:17When the transition happens, do they ever keep some of the language so it's not, you know, a full installation or since he's there now, I mean, did he change all the language?
29:28No, I think now is, I think now they're meeting to see what we're going to keep in house and what, you know, what he would want to run as well.
29:36So I feel like now this is what we, you know, go through and see what fits us and what we're going to use throughout the season.
29:44So I feel like now is OTAs, we use that time to see like, I would pretty much see like what plays and what, you know, type of style, type of offense we're going to be heading into the 2025-2026 season.
29:57And so I feel like during camp, man, you, that's when you really go in your bag and really, you know, bring out your best plays, you know, because you're getting ready for the season.
30:04You know, I feel like now is, you know, he's trying to get the foundation started and, you know, get the main details down.
30:10Like last year you went off, like no doubt you went off, you stayed off until you didn't tell you got hurt a little bit, but you went off.
30:18So when a new OC comes in, are you, are you concerned at all?
30:24Or are you just like, we're going to amplify what we did with the new guy?
30:27Yeah, I feel like when, when, you know, a new, new coach come in, you know, I feel like we just got to, we build on what we did last year, you know, just, you know, putting me, putting me in positions, you know, that, that fits, you know, the best things I do, you know.
30:43So, and just anybody, you know, me too, including the wideouts, the running backs, you know, just putting guys in the right position for us to, you know, exceed, you know, be great, you know, make plays for the team, man.
30:52So, you know, I'm excited for this year, man.
30:55I'm excited for, you know, the offense and, you know, the, the energy, you know, we're going to bring this year, man.
30:59I can't wait.
31:00Some of my friends play pro basketball.
31:02They talk about when they're on, like the rim looks like it's 10 feet wide and, you know, they can't miss.
31:08Like when you're on, like what's the, what's the difference with you?
31:12Does the ball look bigger?
31:13Does it look softer?
31:14Do the players look slower?
31:16Man, everything.
31:17I think when I'm on, like the ball, everything is moving slow motion, like everything.
31:21The ball is coming slow.
31:22Guys just look slower.
31:24Yeah.
31:25It's just like action figures out there, you know, just the bag drill.
31:28That's kind of what it feels like, you know, just routes on there, you know, you're not seeing nobody.
31:32Everything is just moving, you know, blocking out the noise, man.
31:35It's just in the moment, man.
31:37I feel like there's no better feeling, man.
31:38Once you, once you find that groove, you know, you know how it is.
31:41It is.
31:42It's unstoppable to stop, you know?
31:44Yeah, that groove.
31:45It's nice.
31:46I love being in that groove.
31:47You ever self-scout yourself for tendencies to make sure that you're not being scouted for tendencies,
31:53to make sure you're not doing things like on the line that they already know what you're about to do?
31:58Yeah, for sure.
31:59Yeah, I try to, I try to, you know, modify my game to keep it the same because I'm a bigger receiver, you know,
32:05so it's, it's easier for me.
32:07You know, I'm 6'4", so it's easier for me to, you can tell when it's time for me to decel, stop,
32:12speed up, you know, it's, it's easier, easier indicators, you know?
32:16So I feel like for me, man, just, that's one thing I self-scout is just,
32:19how can I find ways to make everything look the same?
32:21You know, my tempo changing or they know when I come to the ball fast,
32:25it's either going to be a deep route or I'm coming off slow, might be a run play, you know?
32:29So I feel like right now I'm at the point in my career where I need to make everything look the same.
32:33I feel like that's the thing I've been chasing, you know, even when I'm tired, you know,
32:37fourth quarter, you know, you got to run a post route, you know, or you got to run an in-cut.
32:41How can you make everything look the same?
32:43You know, so the DBs, you know, can't cover, you know, they're smart too, you know,
32:48they're great players and they get paid as well, you know?
32:50So they watch film, you know, they're pros, you know, so they know, they know the game, you know?
32:55So they know when it's a run play or a pass play.
32:57So I feel like for me it is, that's one step I got to take, you know,
33:00just making everything look the same, you know, keep my pad level low,
33:04being physical with a lot of scrimmage, you know, which I am, you know,
33:07but I feel like for me, just continue to work on those things.
33:10Yeah, you're physical, you're large.
33:11Do you like when a DB comes up to jam you?
33:13Is that fun?
33:14Like, let's go.
33:16Yeah, I love it.
33:18That's fun.
33:19Football, man, I feel like that brings the energy, you know,
33:23that brings the competitive nature that I have and I love competing, man.
33:26Like, let's go, you know, when God come down to press, you know,
33:29he's trying to stop you from making plays, you know?
33:32And for me, it's the team trust me to go make a play, you know,
33:35whatever your number's called, you got to make a play, man.
33:37So for me, I love being impressed.
33:39You know, I love just competing, you know,
33:41because they putting their all into that press jam, you know?
33:44So, you know, you beat them off the line, you know, a lot, you know,
33:47keep running your reps and, you know, you can, you'll know when you take
33:51their pride a little bit.
33:53Speaking of getting your number called, if I'm correct,
33:55you were drafted in third round.
33:57What are these guys feeling?
33:58What are they feeling right now as we're inching up?
34:01What were you feeling about this point as the draft was about to happen?
34:05Yeah, man, I was anxious.
34:07Didn't know where to go.
34:08You know, I didn't know where I was going to go.
34:11Didn't know what team, you know, believed in me, liked me enough.
34:14You know, just coming from the senior bowl, man, you know,
34:16it was a lot of emotions, you know, pro day as well.
34:19You know, it's a lot of nerves because you train your whole life
34:22to get to this level where you, you know, where God's trained to go now.
34:25You know, so when you get to this level, man, it's the best of the best.
34:28You know, guys are great at this level, man.
34:31So around this time, man, it was a lot of emotions.
34:33It was, man, it was hard to explain, man.
34:36It was anxious, nervous, you know, just wishing, you know,
34:39you never know if you're going to get picked or not.
34:41You know, it was different coming from high school to college
34:43where you get to pick what school you want to go to.
34:45But now it's the complete opposite.
34:47You know, teams got to see if they like you.
34:49You know what I'm saying?
34:50So I feel like that was the big difference for me,
34:52feeling, you know, just coming into the draft, you know.
34:56So, man, I end up, you know, just being with my family around the time,
34:59man, I end up, you know, getting the draft house, you know,
35:03being with my family, man, being with my loved ones.
35:05I feel like that really helped me out, you know,
35:07and just talking to my mom, my parents, you know,
35:09and just them telling me, you know, whatever team get me, man,
35:11just make sure you go and, you know, make your mark and have fun with it,
35:15you know, and just thank God for it all, you know, and just have fun.
35:18You know, the same game you've been playing your entire life, you know,
35:21is just at the highest level.
35:23You know, it's something you've been dreaming about your entire life,
35:25and it's finally here.
35:26So taking a run with it, man, you know,
35:28take advantage of your opportunities.
35:30What teams did you meet with, and was the Texans one of those teams
35:34you thought might pop up and draft you?
35:38Actually, I was meeting with a lot of teams, man.
35:41I met with the Tennessee Titans a lot, Jacksonville,
35:44Jacksonville a couple times, man, New York, Giants.
35:50Yeah, Houston.
35:51I end up meeting with Houston, like, it was later, man,
35:55and the interview was like five minutes, you know.
35:57They just asked me how I was doing, how I was feeling, you know,
36:00and it was good.
36:01You know, they liked my game, things like that.
36:04So it was short and sweet, man.
36:05It wasn't nothing too crazy, but I feel like just around that time
36:09I wasn't expecting, you know, the Houston Texans to pick us, man, pick me.
36:15You know, it was just a blessing, you know, because around that time,
36:18you know, Jacksonville, they was interviewing me a lot, you know,
36:22like every day, hard questions, you know, just things like that.
36:25So I kind of thought, you know, it was going to be Tennessee, Jacksonville.
36:29Jacksonville was pretty hard, too, with the interviews, you know,
36:32asking me a lot of questions, you know, asking about the family and stuff.
36:35So I really thought it was going to be either Jacksonville or Tennessee
36:38around this time, pretty sure, but no.
36:40The Texans definitely surprised me, man.
36:42You know, that was my team.
36:43I was not expecting, you know, they kept a short interview
36:47and ended up picking.
36:49I'm from Arkansas, so for me to go to school somewhere cold,
36:52that would not have been preferred.
36:54I'm from Alabama.
36:55How did you end up in Michigan?
36:56Because that feels like a whole different climate.
37:00Man, it's night and day.
37:01Man, I say Jim Harbaugh, man.
37:02Jim Harbaugh, he came down to the Big Ten, came down from the Big Ten,
37:06SEC country, man, and got me, man.
37:08I was a blessing to be highly recruited.
37:11A lot of teams in the SEC, man, pretty much.
37:13I had every team in the SEC, and Michigan was my only Big Ten,
37:16and it was just something about Coach Harbaugh, man.
37:19He stood out.
37:20He was different from all the other coaches.
37:23His way, he just came about the game, man.
37:26He cared for the players on and off the field, for the families.
37:29He was a real football guy, and it stood out.
37:33He was different from the rest of the coaches and the visits I went on.
37:37So he came down, man.
37:38I went up there a couple times for official visits, man,
37:41and I love the coaching, man.
37:43I think that was when I first went to Jordan.
37:45So I just see myself going to Jordan.
37:47I think it was the first Jordan team college football around that time, man.
37:50So it was dope, man.
37:51I feel like just me going up there, playing the Mays and Blues,
37:54different coming from Alabama.
37:55A lot of guys didn't do that.
37:57A lot of guys normally stay in the state.
37:59Either go to Alabama, Arbor, Georgia, Florida.
38:02They stay in the South, man, but I just wanted to do something different.
38:05I just wanted to go up to the North, play in the Big Ten,
38:09just see what's different, see what's out there.
38:12What about catching the ball in the cold, though?
38:15Like catching the football in the cold where you had to learn.
38:18Yeah, that's hard, right?
38:21It's hard, man, because your hands are numb.
38:24The football is hard as a brick, and it's coming fast.
38:27You got no choice but to put your hands up and catch it.
38:29It's terrible, man.
38:31I feel like that was my worst experience.
38:33Like that winter in Michigan was probably my worst my freshman year, man.
38:36Like I didn't know how to dress for the cold.
38:38I had jackets.
38:39I was not doing it for the weather, man.
38:42You need a coat.
38:43I didn't have no boots.
38:44I was going through it, man.
38:46My first winter in December was rough.
38:48I had to call my mom.
38:49I was like, yo, can you send me like a care package?
38:53Show me what I need to go shop for.
38:55I need to stay warm out here.
38:57But no, it was the best decision I ever made, though, man.
39:00Watching you last season, just watching the other wide receivers
39:04around the NFL, like there are a lot of guys,
39:06there are a lot of dudes, but like you were that dude.
39:09Like the whole season, like you were that dude.
39:12And everybody started to realize it about Game 3 where it was like,
39:17okay, he has separated himself from everybody.
39:19Did you do anything last year leading into the season that was different
39:23or is it just a normal maturation process?
39:26Yeah, yeah.
39:27I didn't do anything different.
39:28I feel like I build on last year, coming off my third year,
39:32and this year.
39:33I feel like I was just building, you know,
39:34just finding the things that was good for me my third year.
39:38I did it again.
39:39You know, I amped it up, you know, just taking the game to another level,
39:42you know, just trying to, you know, learn stuff,
39:45learn from different people.
39:46You know, I had, you know, Stefan Diaz joins us this year, you know,
39:49just learning from him, you know, just learning, you know,
39:51how to become a great receiver.
39:53You know, I've been watching Steph for years, you know,
39:55middle school, you know, throughout high school, you know,
39:58and even now I'm still watching, you know, guys like that, man.
40:01Just leaders, you know, I lean on asking questions of the vets, man.
40:05Just finding ways to go about my game, man,
40:07because I feel like there's always ways to improve on your game
40:10and there's no ceiling.
40:11So I feel like for me, man, just striving for greatness
40:14and not getting complacent, not getting comfortable, you know,
40:16just because you had a little, you know, success is a blessing, you know,
40:20but I feel like for me, you've got to continue to go,
40:22continue to remember, like, your goals and, you know,
40:25just being 100%, you know, just taking advantage of every opportunity.
40:28You know, that was what I was doing, you know.
40:30You just never know when the game could be done, you know,
40:32and I feel like just I realized that, man, just flip the switch,
40:36and I'm still continuing to realize that now, you know,
40:39just enjoying everything, you know, because it could be over tomorrow.
40:42Never know, you know.
40:43So I feel like now, man, just having fun, enjoying the process, and loving it.
40:49I got three final questions, and I'll talk about CJ Straub first.
40:53I mean, Ohio State, so that's, you know, a few years ago.
40:56Maybe you guys wouldn't have gotten along so well,
40:59but what's he like at the facility?
41:01What's he like on the practice field?
41:04Yeah, he was a leader, man.
41:06I feel like he was a born leader from day one since he came in, man,
41:10just his work ethic and his leadership.
41:13He was there, man.
41:14He came in not even looking like a rookie, man.
41:16He came in ready to lead, you know, because the first two years, we wasn't winning.
41:20You know, the program, we was probably maybe winning like five games two years.
41:24My first two years I was here, man, it was kind of a rebuild year.
41:28It was kind of hard for me.
41:29But, you know, once we drafted CJ, Will, man, and Henry, man,
41:36I feel like this entire team, that draft class was nice, bro,
41:39and I feel like we stepped it up.
41:40That's what we needed.
41:41We needed those guys, man, to come in and make a difference, and they did.
41:46And CJ, every day in the building, man, you can tell he's on a mission.
41:50You know, he leads the right way.
41:52He'll be there for you, man.
41:53And there's no better guy to go out there and play for, man.
41:57You know, he got your back.
41:58He's a great guy, man, and humble.
42:01He's calm and collected.
42:03That's what I'd call him.
42:04He's real calm.
42:05You know, when pressure's high, lights get bright, you know,
42:07the guy stays the same, man.
42:08I feel like that's the type of guy you need as a quarterback.
42:10All right, final two questions.
42:12Did you keep any balls from this season?
42:14Any special moments where you kept the ball?
42:16We did, for sure, man.
42:18I kept a lot of footballs, man.
42:21Got 1,000 yards.
42:22I kept that.
42:24First touchdown reception, I kept that.
42:29What else?
42:30My second touchdown, my score, I guess, I think it was,
42:36it got called, man, our first one.
42:38Second one got called back.
42:39I was sick.
42:40First touchdown, I gave it.
42:41I know, it was my mom's birthday.
42:43So, I had kept that ball and gave it to her.
42:47So, it was a great, great one.
42:50I was going to keep the Dallas ball.
42:52That first play, I came back after my injury.
42:55Ended up breaking, like, a 70-yard 69 touchdown.
42:58Got called back.
43:00Sick.
43:01So, I was, you know, I still kept that ball because it counted to me.
43:05You know, coming back from, you know, just missing five games, you know,
43:09and that game against Dallas.
43:11And that's being the first play back, man.
43:13And, you know, they gave me the ball the first play.
43:15And, you know, I took it to the house.
43:17I feel like that was a great feeling for me, you know,
43:20just coming off injury, you know, gut-blowing injury, hamstring, you know,
43:24and that being my first play back, man, you know, I had to keep that.
43:28You know, it counted my books.
43:30It might not count nobody else.
43:31But, you know, that's something to remember, you know.
43:33But I always keep a lot of my footballs because, you know,
43:35it's hard to score in this league, man.
43:37It is.
43:38So, like, when you look back 10 years from now, man,
43:41you can tell your kids or, you know, grandkids, you know,
43:45this is what I was doing back in the day.
43:47Final question.
43:48The easy one.
43:49Like, what's the expectation?
43:50What's the ceiling for this year?
43:52You know, what's the goal?
43:54For sure, man.
43:55I feel like the ceiling is everybody's ceiling.
43:57You know, we got to get to that Super Bowl.
43:58We know it's ceiling.
44:00But I feel like our goal, man, is just continue to get better,
44:03continue to not be the same every week, you know, improve, you know,
44:07and continue to be us.
44:09I feel like when we're out there having fun, we play our best ball, not thinking.
44:12You know, and I feel like for us, that's going to be our challenge, man,
44:16to go out there having fun, you know, and being us, man,
44:20being us and not thinking too much.
44:21I feel like that's when we have the most fun and winning games, man.
44:24The potential of this ceiling, this team, this year, man,
44:27I feel like it's great, you know.
44:28And I can feel it right now in the building.
44:30Just, you know, first, second week of workouts, you know,
44:33following the mindset, you know, from the coaches to the players,
44:36you know, everybody, the staff, you know, to everybody, man.
44:39I feel like the energy is there.
44:40I feel like the missions, everybody knows what the mission is,
44:43and we don't want to have that feeling we had last year, you know,
44:45getting to the same spot we did twice, two years back to back,
44:48and not proceeding, you know.
44:49So we know what we got to do.
44:51We know what it takes to go to the next level and go to the next game,
44:54you know.
44:55So I feel like for us, man, it's a great feeling.
44:57It's great energy, and I can't wait for everybody to get back.
45:00Nico, I appreciate you.
45:01You're fun to watch, man.
45:02It's awesome to see last year just kill it and, yeah, rooting for you guys.
45:06So thanks for the time, Nico.
45:07Sure, man.
45:08No problem.
45:09Thank you so much, buddy.
45:10Have a good one.
45:11See you, buddy.
45:12What's the adversity?
45:13Oh, he got shot.
45:14Really?
45:15Yeah.
45:16A lady on a train that had, like, full mental issues wanted to be his
45:20girlfriend, but I have no idea what happened.
45:23But really set back his career, but he fought back from that adversity,
45:26made it all the way up to whatever he was, and was a great teammate,
45:30great player, great leader.
45:32Just all-around good human being.
45:34Roy Hobbs.
45:35I'm going Shane Falco from the replacements.
45:37I do love that.
45:38That's a great call.
45:39The ultimate underdog quarterback.
45:41Nobody believed in Shane Falco.
45:42No.
45:43Shane Falco freaking played, though.
45:44And he balled.
45:45He balled hard.
45:46Balled hard.
45:47Good ones.
45:48All right, next up, your athletic freak.
45:54Okay.
45:55I mean, I was thinking about this, and I always remember watching
45:59Blue Chips growing up.
46:01And then I remember Shaq was the actor in Blue Chips,
46:06was the guy that they paid for to come in, be part of the program,
46:09take him to a national championship.
46:11You know the name.
46:12Yeah.
46:13What, Booby?
46:14No, no, no, no.
46:15Neon.
46:16Neon.
46:17He was Neon.
46:18Neon.
46:19Yeah, Neon, like, boudoir, boudoir.
46:20Yeah, boudoir.
46:21He went down to the gym, and they were in that sweaty gym,
46:23and he's just dunking the ball over people.
46:25Blue Chips was so legit.
46:26It was a great movie.
46:27Like, a really good inside look.
46:31Penny was in it, too.
46:32Penny Hardaway.
46:33Penny Hardaway was a baller, too.
46:34They get no freakier in a great way than Shaq.
46:37Yeah.
46:38Man, I had two A-pluses on this one.
46:40I don't want to be the guy that picks two.
46:42No, please do.
46:43Forrest Gump.
46:45Oh, that's a solid pick right there.
46:50University of Alabama.
46:51Like, he just kept, gone.
46:53Running kickoffs back.
46:54Gone.
46:55Marathons.
46:56Yes, like, he just kept running.
46:57Ping pong.
46:58Yes.
46:59Ping pong.
47:00Yes.
47:01I mean.
47:02Forrest Gump.
47:03Wow.
47:04You get no freakier athletically.
47:05No.
47:06Because he's, like, weird, too.
47:07And he doesn't even know he's doing it.
47:08The other one that was right, because I felt real good about Forrest Gump,
47:11to be honest.
47:12Hey, I'll say that's all-time right there.
47:14Bobby Boucher was number two.
47:15Bobby Boucher.
47:16I thought he'd be a wild card for you.
47:18Because he hits like Ray Lewis on steroids.
47:20Like, Bobby Boucher took heads off.
47:22Yes, he did.
47:23But Forrest Gump has got to be my freak.
47:26That's a great call.
47:27All right.
47:28Next up in the draft.
47:29You're a wild card.
47:30For any reason whatsoever, which athlete would you have on your team?
47:34Oh, Happy Gilmore.
47:36Great one.
47:37Happy Gilmore.
47:38Are you kidding me?
47:39Great one.
47:40Fighting.
47:41Was it Bob Saget?
47:42Yes.
47:43Bob Saget.
47:44Got beat up by Bob Saget.
47:45Just throwing his club everywhere.
47:46Beating stuff down.
47:47Shooter McGavin.
47:48Went after him.
47:49That was great.
47:50That's a good one.
47:51Well, I'm going Air Bud.
47:53It's a freaking dog, dude.
47:55I got a freaking dog who can play ball.
47:58Like, nobody else got a dog?
48:01You know what the funniest part about this?
48:03When you sent this, my wife and I had a conversation.
48:07I said, this is going to be a great conversation.
48:09And she's like, what about Air Bud?
48:11I was like, I can't go with the dog.
48:14Like, honey, I mean.
48:16I go with the dog.
48:17I go with the dog, and I love it.
48:19Literally had that conversation.
48:21Air Bud's legit.
48:22Like, just imagine you show up with a dog that can play ball.
48:24They're going to be so distracted by the dog.
48:26They can't focus.
48:27Yeah, and not only did that dog play basketball,
48:29it played volleyball in one.
48:31It played baseball in one.
48:32Imagine Air Bud in the red zone.
48:33Oh, just go up and get it.
48:35Breaking ankles or biting ankles.
48:37Biting ankles.
48:38That's it.
48:39That's a good one.
48:40All right, coach.
48:41Who's your coach?
48:42Oh, man.
48:43I went with, oh, Jackie Moon, Will Ferrell.
48:48He's semi-pro.
48:50He's the owner.
48:51He also is a player.
48:53He's a pregame announcer, and he fought a bear.
48:56I mean, does it get any better than Jackie Moon?
48:58It does not.
48:59Except I'm going to give you a close.
49:01Not better, but close.
49:02Okay.
49:03Mickey from Rocky, because you need to get up.
49:05Get up, Bones.
49:07Get up.
49:08Get up, Rock.
49:09Like, I feel like Mickey's the guy that's –
49:12He's shaking.
49:13He's hurting, and he's like, get up, Bones.
49:15Air Bud, get up, Air Bud.
49:17Air Bud would knock Rocky.
49:18He's the only dog that could knock Rocky out.
49:20And finally, like your enforcer, your tough guy, who would you draft there?
49:24I went with Jean-Claude Van Dam from Bloodsport.
49:27I mean, let's be honest.
49:30I know he's not like your typical team tough guy,
49:33but I mean the guy went for, like, battle to the death,
49:38wherever the hell they were in Bloodsport,
49:40and fought that one guy who was very intimidating,
49:43and he fought blind.
49:45I mean, pretty hardcore.
49:46That's true.
49:47He did fight blind.
49:48Remember that?
49:49Yes.
49:50He's like, closed his eyes.
49:51Bloodsport, so underappreciated.
49:52Could just feel the wind in his hair and just block.
49:55My enforcer didn't love him,
49:59but would definitely accept him on my team,
50:03Yvonne Drago from Rocky IV.
50:05That's a great enforcer.
50:06I want him roided up.
50:07Oh, 100%.
50:08I want every way he cheated against America
50:10to be cheating for America with me and Air Bud.
50:13HEH, steroids, amphetamines.
50:16I want the whole package.
50:17All of it.
50:18Yeah, and I want the girl that traveled with him,
50:20the blonde that might have beat Rocky.
50:22With the short haircut.
50:23Yes, I think she was more intense than he was.
50:25One of my honorable mentions for the coach was,
50:28let's see if you know who this is,
50:29Gordon Bombay, familiar?
50:30Gordon Bombay.
50:31Gordon Bombay.
50:32Give it to me.
50:33Mighty Ducks.
50:34Oh, that was a great call.
50:36My runner-up for coach was Ted Lasso.
50:39Great call.
50:40Didn't even get on my list.
50:42Yeah.
50:43And I missed.
50:44That is a great one.
50:45I mean, inspiring, fun to play for.
50:47Brings you little cookie treat, cake treats.
50:50Yeah, and my other one for runner-up of leader
50:53was Roy from Ted Lasso.
50:56Yeah, Roy's good.
50:57Just hardcore.
50:59My enforcer backup was another Rocky,
51:01Clubber Lang, which was Mr. T.
51:03Oh, Mr. T.
51:04That was great.
51:05Did you know Mr. T, you know all the chains he wore?
51:07Did you know why he wore that initially
51:10was because he worked bouncer at a club
51:13and people would just leave stuff at the bar?
51:15And he just collected chains?
51:16So he would just collect them and wear them on his neck,
51:17and that's where his look came from.
51:19Hey, any way you can come up, bro,
51:21I'm down with that.