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00:00Ukraine, a country that has attracted a lot of attention for its peace talks.
00:06President Trump's statement has shocked the world.
00:12A dictator without elections.
00:14Zelensky better move fast, or he's not going to have a country left.
00:18Gotta move, gotta move fast.
00:21Since the Russian military invasion, for the first time,
00:24the US and Russian foreign ministers have met.
00:28Both countries are rapidly approaching.
00:45I'm happy to meet Donald.
00:47I'm happy to meet him today.
00:49I think he is too.
00:51Ukraine, a country that has attracted a lot of attention for its peace talks.
00:56Three years after the military invasion,
00:59negotiations are underway across Ukraine,
01:04and there is a lot of resistance.
01:10Of course, there is anger and misunderstanding.
01:15I think it's all about Russia,
01:18because Trump wants the war to end.
01:27My proudest legacy will be that of a peacemaker and unifier.
01:36Trump and Putin.
01:39Will the war end with their deal?
01:43What will happen to the world?
01:45Let's find out the truth.
01:51Good evening.
01:53Just 10 days after the phone conversation between President Trump and President Putin,
01:58the actual negotiations began with the exchange of U.S. troops,
02:02and the Ukrainian withdrawal is becoming clear day by day.
02:06According to the news we just heard,
02:09Russia's foreign minister said that the exchange of U.S. troops will take place in the third country in two weeks.
02:17I'm Yuu Koizumi, an expert on Russia's security guarantees.
02:21Mr. Koizumi, what do you think of the rapid progress in the past few days?
02:25I think it's appropriate to say that it's really rapid.
02:29On February 12, there was a phone conversation between the U.S. and Japan,
02:34and in just 10 days, things were moving at a tremendous speed.
02:39It was expected that the Trump administration would aim for an early settlement,
02:45but the speed was beyond our expectations, and above all, the way it was done.
02:51I don't think there are many people who have thought that Russia is trying to move things quickly by being very aggressive.
03:04President Trump is calling this negotiation a deal.
03:10How is he trying to put this deal together?
03:17The negotiations began on the 12th of this month.
03:24President Trump said that he had a phone conversation with President Putin.
03:31One thing he was very strong about, if it ends, he wants it to end.
03:36And that's President Putin said that.
03:38He talked about the possibility, I mentioned it, of a ceasefire so we can stop the killing.
03:42And I think we'll probably end up at some point getting a ceasefire in the not-too-distant future.
03:49Just before that, President Trump began a direct negotiation in his own way.
04:00He sent a secret message to Moscow and held a three-and-a-half-hour meeting with President Putin.
04:13After this meeting, an American man who had been detained in Russia was released and returned to Japan.
04:20This release was made possible by a special agent in charge of the Middle East, Stephen Whitacoff.
04:50Mr. Whitacoff says that President Trump is his closest friend.
04:56He has no experience in foreign affairs and has no experience in real estate business.
05:06President Trump sends his trusted friend to the other side of the table and tries to resolve the situation.
05:13This method also appeared in the negotiations in the Gaza Strip.
05:21The President is intent on getting it all done correctly.
05:27Mr. Whitacoff has been ordered to negotiate with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu.
05:33Despite the fact that he is not allowed to work in the Jewish State, he is requested to meet with him.
05:40Mr. Whitacoff is a businessman who wants to make a quick deal.
05:46He is a bit of a pessimist.
06:10He has done a fantastic job.
06:14Hi, how are you?
06:17Thank you very much.
06:19Mr. John Bolton is the first President of the United States to serve as an assistant to the President of the United States.
06:27What do you think of President Trump's method of working directly with the top?
06:34I think President Trump has no foreign policy in mind.
06:40In Trump's view, it all depends on his personal relationship with President Putin and President Zelensky.
06:48On the other hand, he thinks that he knows the art of the deal and he can get a deal together at the last minute.
06:59However, President Trump's method of negotiating with the top could be used by President Putin.
07:13I think that Mr. Trump has a good relationship with Mr. Putin, but I think that Mr. Putin can manipulate Mr. Trump.
07:24I think that Mr. Putin can work on Trump in a way that will try to make Mr. Zelensky work on him.
07:36This is one reason why I think Ukraine's position is in trouble.
07:43Six days after the phone conversation with President Putin,
07:49President Trump's remarks about President Zelensky have changed.
07:56The leader in Ukraine, I mean, I hate to say it, but he's down at 4% approval rating.
08:03And we're a country that's been blown to smithereens.
08:14A modestly successful comedian,
08:18President Zelensky talked the United States of America into spending $350 billion to go into a war that basically couldn't be won.
08:29President Zelensky has a sense of urgency that President Trump is being strongly influenced by Russia.
08:40President Trump has great respect for him as a leader of a nation that we very much respect,
08:48an American nation that supports us all the time.
08:52Unfortunately, he lives in this disinformation space.
08:55If someone wants to replace me right now, they can't do it right now.
09:04How does President Trump view negotiations with Russia?
09:13This is the famous historian, Mr. Neil Ferguson, who knows a lot about American diplomacy.
09:19I think he genuinely wants to end the war.
09:24I think he genuinely wants to end the war.
09:29I think he genuinely wants to end the war.
09:33I think he genuinely wants to end the war.
09:37President Trump has said for the past few days that he is not interested in his own cause.
09:45It's not strange for him to give information to the other party before negotiations even begin.
09:55On the other hand, Mr. Ferguson has various opinions within the Trump administration,
10:01and he points out that the policy may change in the future.
10:07How do you think President Trump will move next?
10:11This administration has only just begun.
10:16It's been a month, but we don't see the full picture yet.
10:21For example, it's the influence of people with different opinions within the administration.
10:27The ideas of Secretary of State Rubio and Vice-President Walsh
10:32are not necessarily in line with the ideas of Mr. Trump.
10:37So people should not jump to conclusions as I think some people are.
10:43Because we don't know how well the negotiations with Saudi Arabia will go.
10:51Mr. Bolton and Mr. Ferguson have pointed out that
10:55there is a risk that President Trump, who values personal relations,
10:59will be used by President Putin.
11:02What do you think from the perspective of President Putin?
11:06Mr. Bolton pointed out that he is a deal-maker,
11:10but so is Mr. Putin.
11:13He has been a leader of the former Soviet Union,
11:17President Erdogan of Turkey,
11:20and a top negotiator with the Syrian Assad regime.
11:25In the case of the United States,
11:28there is a sense of value and a strong management mechanism.
11:32President Putin and Mr. Erdogan should not have been able to make a deal so easily.
11:38However, the Trump administration, which values deals,
11:42came out.
11:44At that time, instead of talking about the sense of value,
11:48they talked about how much they would make us,
11:52and the administration came out to be the material for the deal.
11:56I think this is a very convenient development for Russia.
12:00President Trump is originally a businessman.
12:04Does this mean that he is similar to President Putin?
12:08That's right.
12:10Putin is not a businessman.
12:13However, they hold each other by the interests of the top.
12:18It may be a so-called wide-ranging national interest,
12:21or it may be a story of making your family rich.
12:25If you think that the United States is not the kind of person
12:28you want to make a deal with,
12:31it has become the United States where such a story works.
12:35I think this is a development that Russia can hope for.
12:39President Trump has repeatedly criticized President Zelensky.
12:43The focus of the trade between the two countries is Ukraine's rare earths.
12:48Yesterday, the chairman of the Ukrainian Security Council
12:52said that the agreement with the United States
12:55is a set of measures to make the work more serious.
12:59As for Ukraine, it is a set of security guarantees
13:03for the administration of mineral resources and the United States.
13:07What do you think about the rare earths?
13:10Do you think it is a usable item for Ukraine?
13:13At least, I think there is no doubt that we are looking forward to it.
13:17The rare earths are one of the pillars of the victory plan
13:21announced by the Ukrainian government last fall.
13:25In the end, Ukraine's rare earths will be prioritized
13:29by Western countries, especially the United States.
13:33In addition, it seems that it contains the content
13:37that it refuses to use Chinese resources as a secret information.
13:41Moreover, it seems that this was not created by Ukraine itself,
13:45but was created by consulting with the United States.
13:49I think it is information that has brought expectations
13:52for the development of the rare earths.
13:56However, the Trump side is saying that it should be developed
14:00not as a security guarantee for the future,
14:04but as a fund for military aid in the past,
14:08so the story is getting complicated.
14:12However, I think that Ukraine will land the rare earths
14:16and try to get a certain security guarantee from the United States.
14:19On the other hand, the U.S. side seems to be proposing
14:23to land the rare earths or NATO,
14:27but can Ukraine really accept it?
14:31It is difficult at the moment.
14:35Of course, we know that it is difficult to negotiate with NATO,
14:39and we also know that it is more and more difficult to recapture the rare earths,
14:43so we should be calculating that there is no real compromise.
14:46However, the Russian side has been demanding
14:50that the U.S. side should go back to a more progressive policy,
14:54dismantle the military, deepen NATO,
14:58and become a more comprehensive settlement.
15:02If the U.S. side says that it will accept it,
15:06I think that Ukraine will say that there is no point in negotiating.
15:10At the moment, the U.S. side is saying that it is good,
15:13but we still don't know how to convince Ukraine,
15:17which is at the time of the war, to accept it.
15:21So what happens if Ukraine doesn't accept it?
15:25The war will continue,
15:29and I don't know if the U.S. side will continue to support it or not,
15:33but even if the U.S. side doesn't support it,
15:37if I were the commander-in-chief of the Ukrainian army,
15:40I would think that the U.S. side will continue to support it.
15:44So I think that if we ignore Ukraine's intentions
15:48and hold on to it at the U.S. embassy,
15:52we will be able to end it quickly.
15:56On the other hand, I feel that President Trump is in a hurry.
16:00Mr. Ferguson is aiming for the Nobel Peace Prize as a legacy,
16:04and he said that he wants to achieve results for the midterm elections next year.
16:07I think he's in a hurry because the midterm elections are next year.
16:11It is said that President Trump's term of office is 100 days,
16:15but from January 20th to the end of April.
16:19What does this feeling of hurrying mean for the Russian side?
16:23Just as Ukraine continues to resist,
16:27the Russians should be able to continue the war for a while.
16:31Then we don't have to hurry,
16:34but if the U.S. is in such a hurry,
16:38how much will it cost to win the midterm elections?
16:42I think that the fact that the U.S. side seems to be moving
16:46in a very Russian-oriented way in the midterm elections
16:50shows that Russia is looking down on us.
16:54Is President Putin really going to hold the midterm elections?
16:58What kind of plans does he have for negotiations?
17:01What kind of plans does he have for negotiations?
17:07President Putin has shown a positive attitude
17:11to improve relations since the election of President Trump.
17:17I have already said that we will work with any head of state
17:21entrusted by the American people
17:25in an effort to restore relations with Russia,
17:28to contribute to the end of the Ukrainian crisis.
17:32In my opinion, this deserves attention.
17:41He also praised Mr. Trump's behavior
17:45in the assassination attempt during the election.
17:49I can tell you that his behavior
17:53at the moment of the attempt on his life
17:56has impressed me greatly.
18:00He turned out to be a courageous man.
18:04I would like to congratulate him on his election
18:08to the post of President of the United States of America.
18:12Where is this sincerity?
18:16Mr. Kashyanov, who served as the prime minister
18:20of the Putin administration,
18:23said that President Putin has a bigger ambition
18:27than President Trump, who is in a hurry to hold the midterm elections.
18:33In his view, Ukraine is just a piece
18:37to build relations with the United States.
18:41Just like in the Soviet era,
18:45two countries want to decide the fate of the world.
18:49Putin does not intend to negotiate with President Zelensky,
18:53but he wants to negotiate with President Trump
18:57and decide the fate of the world.
19:01I would like him to pay respect to himself.
19:05The background of Russia's confidence.
19:09It is a prosperous economy.
19:13Nightclubs in Moscow are crowded
19:17with many young people every day.
19:23The GDP growth rate last year
19:27was 4.1%, which is higher than that of Western countries.
19:31There is a wonderful atmosphere in Belarus.
19:35It feels like a family.
19:39Why is the economy so strong
19:43in the face of severe sanctions from the West?
19:46The reason is that the national budget is 30%
19:50and the military expenditure is 20 trillion yen per year.
19:54After the invasion,
19:58military factories in various places
20:02operate in a 24-hour system.
20:06They manufacture ammunition and weapons.
20:10We work 12 hours a day,
20:13including weekends and holidays.
20:17As a result, we earn more money
20:21and produce more products.
20:25The government's budget has created new jobs
20:29and the average wage has increased by 1.5 times.
20:33The citizens' desire to work has increased
20:37and the economy is booming.
20:43What do you think?
20:47Nothing has changed.
20:51I like everything so far.
20:55The Putin regime has secured soldiers
20:59thanks to such a huge military expenditure.
21:03This is a sign of the recruitment of volunteers
21:07in the city of Russia.
21:10The annual salary is about 8.8 million yen.
21:14It's equivalent to five years
21:18in Russia.
21:22In addition, the annual salary
21:26is paid separately.
21:30Some areas earn more than 5 million yen.
21:34It's a lot of money.
21:37According to the Russian government,
21:41an average of 1,000 volunteers are recruited a day
21:45to support the progress of Russia.
21:49Russia, forward!
21:56However, last December,
22:00President Putin, who appeared on TV,
22:03voiced dissatisfaction among the citizens.
22:07The salaries are increasing,
22:11but they don't meet the rising prices.
22:15The rise in prices is connected
22:19with the majority of Irkutsk residents.
22:23I apologize to the audience
22:27and to those who listen to us today.
22:30The external restrictions and sanctions
22:34don't matter.
22:38Last month, the inflation rate
22:42was about 10%.
22:46Food prices are soaring.
22:50This is a sign of the annual salary.
22:54This woman's annual salary
22:57is about 110,000 yen
23:01for her and her mother.
23:05This year, the inflation rate
23:09was about 6,000 yen,
23:13but it doesn't meet the rising prices.
23:17It's a serious amount.
23:21It's almost half of the income,
23:24but it doesn't meet the rising prices.
23:28You have to change the budget
23:32in order to get what you want.
23:36Russia's former prime minister,
23:40Kashyanov,
23:44still thinks that Russia's position
23:48remains the same.
23:51Putin is strong now.
23:55People don't protest against the rising prices.
23:59Putin understands that well.
24:03Even if the West supports Ukraine,
24:07Putin thinks he can win the war
24:11and conquer Ukraine.
24:15Putin doesn't intend to negotiate
24:18with Russia.
24:22I don't think he will do it in the near future.
24:27Mr. Koizumi, what do you think
24:31of Putin's intentions for this negotiation?
24:35First of all,
24:39he wants Russia to recognize
24:43its dominance over Ukraine.
24:46He wants Russia to be united
24:50with Russia.
24:54This is a big goal,
24:58but the Trump administration
25:02seems to have high expectations.
25:06If you look at the negotiations
25:10between Ukraine and Russia,
25:13you can see that they are trying
25:17to achieve a bigger goal.
25:21They want to reduce Russian sanctions
25:25and start business together.
25:29They might sign a new military agreement
25:33that will expire in February.
25:37It seems that they are trying
25:40to achieve a bigger goal.
25:44It's shocking that Ukraine is
25:48one of them.
25:52I saw the rise of the Russian economy.
25:56The sanctions were imposed
26:00to support Russia's national economy.
26:04What was the effect?
26:07China and India were buying
26:11at discounted prices.
26:15If sanctions are implemented,
26:19oil prices will rise,
26:23gasoline prices will rise,
26:27and the economy will boom.
26:31What do you think of Russia's ability
26:34to achieve a bigger goal?
26:38Russia has a lot of energy,
26:42it has a military industry,
26:46and it has a lot of weapons.
26:50Russia will continue the war
26:54for some time,
26:58so there is no need to negotiate.
27:01Even if Russia can't continue the war,
27:05it can maintain the occupied territory
27:09and continue the war.
27:13Russia can continue the war
27:17for a longer period of time.
27:21I don't think it's a waste
27:25to impose sanctions on Russia.
27:28I think the effect of the sanctions
27:32is to reduce Russia's ability
27:36to achieve a national economy
27:40by 70%, 60%, or 50%.
27:44It's not zero-one.
27:48Russia continues the war
27:52economically and militarily.
27:55As I said in the VTR,
27:59the urban areas are well-off,
28:03so people don't feel dissatisfied.
28:07There are 450,000 to 500,000 soldiers
28:11who die every year.
28:15But they don't die in unison.
28:19They die because they get a good salary.
28:22There are fewer people
28:26who can speak up.
28:30People who used to live well
28:34don't see the reality of war
28:38or people who have lost their limbs.
28:42Russia doesn't tell Putin
28:46to stop the war.
28:49The U.S. has been pressuring Russia
28:53to stop the war.
28:57President Trump is expected
29:01to meet with the French president
29:05next week.
29:09What do you think, President Putin?
29:13I think the Europeans
29:16want to stop the war
29:20and make Ukraine happy.
29:24That's why they want to
29:28send troops to Europe.
29:32Russia has been trying to
29:36divide the U.S. in this war.
29:40Russia has been threatening
29:43to stabilize relations between
29:47the U.S. and the European Union.
29:51I think that's what Russia wants.
29:55President Trump and President Putin
29:59are getting closer to the U.S.
30:03But Russia is preparing
30:07for a war with the U.S.
30:10One of the most important
30:14is the Japanese border.
30:18The U.S. is being defended
30:22by a nuclear submarine
30:26with ballistic missiles.
30:32General Suvorov's
30:36ballistic missiles are
30:40being used by the U.S.
30:44How far is Russia moving?
30:52Mr. Koizumi is analyzing
30:56the submarine base in Hokkaido.
31:04When was this?
31:07This is a picture of the submarine base
31:11taken on a radar satellite in November last year.
31:151, 2, 3, 4, 5.
31:19I think all the nuclear warheads have returned.
31:23Over the past three years,
31:27Russia has built a new
31:31ballistic missile nuclear submarine
31:34based on the submarine.
31:38Mr. Koizumi is paying attention
31:42to the construction of a new facility
31:46based on the submarine.
31:50We can see three layers here.
31:54We've confirmed that
31:58when a nuclear warhead is placed,
32:01it can be used as a ballistic missile.
32:05I think this facility will be ready
32:09to launch in the near future.
32:13Russia is trying to strengthen
32:17its territorial power
32:21by invading China and North Korea
32:25in addition to increasing its military power.
32:28For the first time in three decades,
32:32we are conducting such a large-scale exercise at sea.
32:36The Chinese People's Liberation Army
32:40is also participating in this exercise.
32:49In September last year,
32:52the Chinese People's Liberation Army
32:56and the People's Liberation Army
33:00of North Korea were invited to join the exercise.
33:04The North Korean Navy was also invited
33:08for the first time.
33:12The exercise will be conducted
33:16in the United States and Canada.
33:19For the first time, the Russian and Chinese bombers
33:23flew together and invaded the air defense identification zone.
33:31The United States is also warning
33:35that Russia is actively engaging with China
33:39in the Pacific region this year.
33:43The People's Republic of China, Russia,
33:46and North Korea have formed a triangle of troublemakers.
33:50Their diplomatic cooperation threatened
33:54to transform the Pacific from free and open
33:58to contested and controlled.
34:04Russia's invasion of Ukraine
34:08also shows that North Korea is providing ammunition and soldiers.
34:11The military cooperation between the two countries is getting deeper.
34:19This is a photo of the missile wreckage.
34:23It looks like a Mars model.
34:28Analyzing the wreckage of weapons used in the attack on Ukraine,
34:32it has become clear that North Korea
34:36even had ballistic missiles.
34:42Another very important observation is
34:46how long a ballistic missile is,
34:50between production and use.
34:54It's only just a few months.
34:58The sheer quantities that they needed
35:02to maintain their effort or their objective
35:06were not sufficient.
35:10A North Korean expert says
35:14that if the negotiations do not advance
35:18and the fighting continues,
35:22the relationship between the two countries will deepen.
35:26Russia is definitely relying on North Korea
35:30and North Korea is providing more than what was expected.
35:34North Korea is providing self-protection
35:37and North Korea is sacrificing its own soldiers for Russia.
35:41This is blood debt.
35:45As the war progresses,
35:49the military cooperation will deepen.
35:56Russia and North Korea's military ties
36:00have become stronger.
36:03There is an expert who points out that
36:07Russia and North Korea's military ties have become stronger.
36:11He is Hekker Hakshi,
36:15an expert on the military development of North Korea and Russia.
36:19I have inspected the main nuclear facilities
36:23for North Korea's plutonium project.
36:27Hekker Hakshi says that
36:30North Korea is looking for military support
36:34and Russia is looking for military support.
36:40North Korea has not done enough nuclear experiments.
36:44If the Russian authorities
36:48share the practical use of nuclear weapons
36:52and the experimental data that is needed,
36:56I think they will want it.
37:01Hekker Hakshi points out that
37:05the war in Ukraine has increased
37:09North Korea's desire to develop nuclear weapons.
37:17North Korea should be thinking
37:21what happened to the country that abandoned nuclear weapons.
37:25But if I look at the war in Ukraine
37:28and the influence of the war in North and East Asia,
37:32it will certainly be a risk to Japan and South Korea.
37:40You mentioned the word risk.
37:44What do you think is the risk to Japan?
37:48I think there are two things.
37:52The first is that Japan has more people to deal with.
37:55The second is that Russia does not have to worry about military threats.
37:59The first thing is to suppress China's military in the South.
38:03The third is to deal with North Korea's nuclear missile development.
38:07That is the premise of the talks.
38:11But if you think about the situation of the Russian submarine
38:15that appeared in the VTR,
38:19it seems that we still have to pay attention to the North Sea.
38:22In the past year or two,
38:26the number of nuclear submarines in Russia
38:30has increased dramatically.
38:34If that happens,
38:38we will have to rely on the South.
38:42We will have to rely on the Sea Self-Defense Force.
38:46The other thing is that
38:49Russia, China, and North Korea
38:53have begun to interact with each other.
38:57In this war, Russia will become more isolated
39:01and deepen relations with China.
39:05China will be allowed to enter the North Pole.
39:09As Dr. Hecker said,
39:13a nuclear technology will be sent from Russia to North Korea.
39:16I think the biggest influence on Japan's security insurance
39:20is that the three threats are not only increasing,
39:24but also becoming more troublesome.
39:28What are the more troublesome threats?
39:32The first one is that
39:36North Korea's nuclear weapons technology has become more advanced.
39:40Not only that,
39:43Russia's weapons will be used
39:47as a substitute for ammunition and soldiers.
39:51China and Russia's military cooperation and strengthening
39:55will not be the same,
39:59but there is a sign that it will continue to advance.
40:03It's not about prioritizing one or the other,
40:07but it's all the same threat.
40:10It's a very undesirable situation.
40:14So we should not only work with Japan
40:18or the Sino-US alliance,
40:22but also work with other countries
40:26to expand the security insurance network.
40:30We should also cooperate with NATO.
40:34I think we need to have a wide-ranging security insurance plan.
40:37You've been talking about the nuclear negotiations in Ukraine.
40:41What kind of lessons do you think we should learn
40:45about how to deal with the risks of Japan?
40:49I think the biggest lesson is that
40:53if a country is defeated,
40:57there will be no other option.
41:01Do you think Ukraine will continue to resist
41:04as a result of the two-nuclear deal?
41:08Do you think Japan will continue to resist
41:12as a result of the two-nuclear deal?
41:16I think it's a necessary action
41:20as a country,
41:24but I don't think Japan should be forced
41:28to accept the two-nuclear deal.
41:31We need to have a credible and effective policy.
41:35Security insurance is not only important,
41:39but we need to think seriously about it.
41:43That's what I strongly believe.
41:47Ferguson, a historian, says
41:51that the US, Russia and China are in a balance
41:55and are in an extremely unstable era.
41:58President Trump's behavior is like a emperor.
42:02But the US has restrictions on military power and budget,
42:06so it can't afford to get into a fight with China.
42:10If a war breaks out between Taiwan and China,
42:14the US may lose.
42:18It's an age of great power,
42:22but the US has a limit on its power.
42:25It's an age of great power,
42:29but the US has a limit on its power.
42:34If that is the case,
42:38what do countries that do not have the resources
42:42to bargain with Mr. Trump do?
42:46We are now in a world
42:50where the strong do what they want
42:53and the weak do what they don't want.
42:57This is a very uncomfortable world for a small country.
43:01Just ask the Danes.
43:05If the US president says he wants Greenland,
43:09what are you going to do?
43:13Fight him? That's not possible.
43:17You have to do what he wants.
43:20You mentioned the word emperor.
43:24How do you think Japan should face the emperor?
43:28Well,
43:31President Putin was originally called an emperor.
43:35He was also called an emperor when he was president of the People's Republic of China.
43:39He was even called an emperor by the president of the United States,
43:43which is supposed to be a democratic country.
43:46So Japan has to face the emperor.
43:50But I don't think the emperor is a god,
43:54like Godzilla or Typhoon or an earthquake.
43:58You can't talk to Godzilla, Typhoon or an earthquake.
44:02People who are called emperors have great power,
44:06but they are the same people and politicians.
44:10And Japan is the closest ally to the United States.
44:13I don't think we should treat people like Godzilla.
44:17We should treat people like we can work.
44:21If we don't have that attitude,
44:25we'll just be turned around.
44:29Will there be more emperors?
44:33I think there is a possibility.
44:37But I don't think the world full of emperors is desirable.
44:40I think the US government shouldn't be our neighbor.
44:44I think the US government should work hard
44:48to get the non-emperor president to come back to the United States.
44:52I think I should start that as a big foreign diplomatic task for Japan.
44:58What are you going to pay attention to after this interview?
45:02In the short term,
45:06the Trump administration is saying that it will end until April 20.
45:10I would like to pay attention to the movement of the two countries in the U.S. to see if the victory declaration can be made on the anniversary of the September 9th war.
45:19I see.
45:20Thank you for your time, Mr. Yuu Koizumi.
45:25Don't forget the deal between President Trump and President Putin.
45:31Don't forget where the victory declaration is going.
45:44Yes, it will be three years soon.
45:53Ukraine, where more than 400,000 soldiers were killed in the past three years.
46:02On this day, the body of a soldier who lost his life on the front line has returned to his hometown.
46:09We will bury our children. Everything will be all right.
46:14We will not cry for them.
46:23Tetiana, the wife.
46:26What did her husband die for?
46:29She has unbearable feelings about the negotiations on the front line.
46:35I can't forgive Ukraine for what happened to us.
46:42They took everything from us.
46:45They took our children, our families.
46:49They took our peaceful life.
46:52They don't let us live a happy life.
46:57When it is said that Ukraine should share the benefits of the war, it is very painful.
47:09Because a very high price has been paid for the lives of our men and daughters.
47:16It turns out that the war started for the benefit of Ukraine.
47:38Three years ago, Ressi, a college student who dropped out of the US and returned to Ukraine.
47:46Me and my brother are going to Ivankiv to help some people with humanitarian help.
47:51I don't think it's safe enough, but someone has to go there for sure.
47:56So it's going to be us.
48:00He sealed his dream of becoming a journalist and continued to deliver medical supplies to the front line.
48:10We will destroy everything.
48:14Don't worry so much.
48:19He continues to think about how to convey the reality around him to the world.
48:28But it happens.
48:30And Russia becomes more and more impudent and checks how much the civilized world is ready to allow this.
48:37The world community must understand the danger of this war for themselves.
48:43I don't know how to make people aware of it.
49:07I hate this war.
49:13They are coming to isolate us.
49:19Suddenly, they want something.
49:22What are they going to want?
49:28The tears of the incident.
49:30Satoshi Kirishima, a wanted criminal who was released in the last half century.
49:35The Unknown Escape is coming to an end.
49:39November 24th at 11 p.m.
49:43I want to do well here.
49:45It is written that I feel creative.
49:47Can you teach me?
49:49It's interesting, isn't it?
49:51Mr. Satoru Koda.
49:55To be continued.
49:58I will make it twice as popular.