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00:00What's up, buddy?
00:00What's going on, bro?
00:02Hey, man, it's been a long time no see, man.
00:05What are we doing today?
00:07Another interview, my man.
00:08OK.
00:09Let's do this.
00:10OK.
00:11All right.
00:12Great.
00:12I'm ready.
00:13I think this is going to be a lot of fun.
00:14Yeah.
00:15Yeah.
00:16It'll be a little bit less or more dramatic when you're here
00:18with your ladies.
00:20Oh, yeah, we both have some very exciting women, don't we?
00:24We definitely have the most dramatic women of the group.
00:29So, Jasmine, we're going to show you some
00:34never-before-seen footage now.
00:42Oh, look at me, all cute.
00:46Get on the bus.
00:50The nightmare that follows us everywhere.
00:52How are you doing?
00:53I'm good.
00:54How are you?
00:55Good, good, good.
00:56Doing good.
00:59Yeah, I do it myself.
01:03No, no, no.
01:04I have boobs.
01:06I have implants.
01:07Where?
01:08Because of my ass.
01:09In your ass you have implants?
01:10Because I'm too skinny.
01:11Can I touch it?
01:12Why everyone wants to touch my ass, I said from Gino.
01:15It's like, OK.
01:17It's OK.
01:18Because I'm too tiny.
01:19Yes, baby.
01:21We have $10,000 in here.
01:23We have $10,000 in the backside.
01:26You know, we have around $20,000.
01:28So yeah, money, baby.
01:31And I'm very proud of my investments.
01:34Oh, my god.
01:35I'm too tiny.
01:35I'm too small.
01:37Ding dong.
01:38I've always been too skinny.
01:40Well, the surgery, they messed it up.
01:42How messed it up?
01:43The surgeon put her implants in upside down,
01:47and her butt became rectangular.
01:49And it used to be round.
01:51Oh, you like a round?
01:52I like a round, big booty.
01:54I would say big hips.
01:55Big hips, big butt.
01:57Soft, natural.
02:00I like that.
02:01How can it be natural like that, Gino?
02:02I'm sorry.
02:03Does Lacey's boobs feel real?
02:06Huh?
02:07No, to be honest, for me, I don't have a problem.
02:09That's like, it's fake or real, you know?
02:13Yes, it look good.
02:14That is the best thing, you know?
02:16So the feel, the touch and feel doesn't matter to you?
02:18No, not a matter for me.
02:20Is it comfortable to sit on me?
02:22At the beginning, not only it feels weird,
02:24you feel different.
02:25Because your body's adapting, and you're
02:27self-conscious about implants.
02:29Good to know.
02:31Because I kind of want to know what a butt implant feels like.
02:34Not that I need one.
02:36But after a while, it feels normal.
02:38It feels part of your body.
02:40It looks natural.
02:41We're all curious.
02:42Come on.
02:43I feel like everybody who wants plastic surgery
02:45wants to know, what is it like to have
02:47boob implants, butt implants?
02:50Lauren and I got our teeth out in Turkey.
02:51It was the best decision I ever made.
02:54So I feel like Natalie has the guts
02:56to ask people questions that other people really want to know,
03:00but are too scared to ask.
03:04No, but you look great.
03:07You look great.
03:07Yeah.
03:25They're not.
03:30Oh, god.
03:31The hike.
03:34OK, what is that?
03:36What are we doing?
03:38Well, when I think of a retreat, I think of pampering,
03:40like a spa, maybe some couples' massages or something.
03:45That would've been cool.
03:46I just saw that pile of rocks and was like,
03:47oh, we're in for it.
03:50Yeah.
03:51Grab two rocks and a marker.
03:54You're going to write your issue on both of your rocks.
03:58And then you're going to give one of your rocks
04:01to your significant other.
04:03We will go ahead and put both of the rocks in your backpack.
04:07Let's head over, grab a backpack and a marker,
04:10and two rocks each.
04:12What?
04:15Brings back memories.
04:18Right?
04:18I'm picking the smallest ones.
04:20I'm a Libra.
04:21I make a decision.
04:24I see Julia pick out the biggest rock for Brandon.
04:28And I'm just like, dude, this poor guy.
04:30Like, why would you pick out the biggest rock knowing, like,
04:34you know, it's going to be heavy for him?
04:36I thought that was a pretty messed up move.
04:39Wow.
04:40Big rock.
04:40I know which one she's going to give to me.
04:45I did choose big rock for a purpose,
04:47but not trying to be funny.
04:50I'm trying to show Brandon how heavy are my pain inside.
04:53Because it's therapy, and I'm trying
04:55to make this therapy be success.
04:57Not just like, oh, Gina, good boy.
05:01You pick up small rock.
05:02I mean, did it help you solve your problem?
05:05Oh my god.
05:06I'm sorry, but that is how I feel inside.
05:09Seriously?
05:09Yeah.
05:10Is the rock really that big?
05:12It's like two Brandon's heads.
05:15Like, same like your butt.
05:16I'm dead.
05:21This is a map of the trail.
05:23It's going to lead you there and back.
05:24Good luck with your journey.
05:26You guys got this.
05:27Woo!
05:30We already had a whole conversation about that.
05:31We did not have a conversation.
05:32Yeah, well, you apparently did it.
05:34And you lied.
05:35Lying is lying.
05:36Lying is lying.
05:38I want to talk to you to make sure you guys are OK.
05:40Are you upset that I had sex with someone
05:42when I was 14 years old?
05:44I'm not doing that with you.
05:45I'm not doing it.
05:48I had just got confirmation that Sophie slept with her friend.
05:52And then she lied about it for two years.
05:55So every single time that she said,
05:56I've never lied, so you can't question me,
05:59she knew that she was a liar.
06:02She had lied, and she was still lying.
06:04It just, it opens up a whole new world of questions.
06:08I need you to do some breathing and relaxing for a second.
06:10You got this.
06:12As I'm talking to Rob, I turn, and Sophie just darts.
06:16So I went running.
06:17And I wasn't prepared for it, but I
06:19went running after Sophie, trying to make
06:21the best of the situation.
06:26Where is Sophie?
06:31We already have so many issues.
06:33We have no chance now.
06:35I don't care to do this.
06:37All of a sudden, I just feel like I'm
06:40All of a sudden, I just saw you, like, running away.
06:43I was thinking, where the hell is Sophie going?
06:46That's kind of what I do.
06:46I kind of, like, shut down sometimes,
06:48especially if I feel like Rob's getting upset at me.
06:51I could hear, like, the camera guys chasing me.
06:52And they were like, Sophie, please come back.
06:54And I was just saying, I am not coming back.
06:55Like, they are not going to see me again.
06:57Oh, no.
06:59I really was, like, done.
07:00Like, I was going to leave the resort.
07:07Sophie, she's not a team player.
07:09She's a selfish little girl.
07:11Like, Sophie acted like,
07:20And all this tantrum.
07:22And it's like, come on, girl.
07:25You're mature.
07:27You're a mature woman.
07:29Can I talk with you?
07:30Mama, you did your own hike.
07:32I was like, where is she?
07:34She's, like, all the way leaving the whole park.
07:37James actually called up to me.
07:38And I was like, OK, like, this might help me
07:41and, like, calm me down.
07:43I know Rob.
07:44He's going to literally be in a horrible mood with me
07:46this whole time.
07:47He doesn't let things go.
07:48That's his history, right?
07:50His history makes him respond like that.
07:52He understood both of us.
07:53Usually, me and Rob have people in our lives where,
07:56oh, I'm team Rob.
07:56I'm team Sophie.
07:57Knowing someone was there to, like, help Rob listen to me,
08:00it just kind of, it just helped.
08:02All I remember is sitting on that rock
08:05and feeling like, this is fucked up.
08:10Anything that I say to Sophie that doesn't,
08:13that isn't kissing her ass, makes her feel insulted.
08:16Because she can't handle it.
08:18She cannot handle being in the wrong, period, ever.
08:25All right, we're going to show you some more
08:26never-before-seen footage of what it's like to be
08:29All right, we're going to show you some more
08:31never-before-seen footage.
08:34Oh.
08:36Oh, wow.
08:38Who's that handsome guy?
08:39Me too.
08:40There's no toilets out here.
08:41There are bushes.
08:42OK.
08:43Stay here.
08:44You're going to be out here?
08:45Call the wild, guys.
08:46Let's go.
08:46I need to pee.
08:48Go do it.
08:49Call the wild.
08:50Ah!
08:50Jasmine and Natalie going to the bathroom together in the wild,
08:55it's scary thinking about it.
08:57You know, two of the biggest crazies I know.
09:01Are they going to survive?
09:04Big question mark here.
09:06That's a whole new show idea.
09:08Cougars in the wild.
09:10We take some high-energy women who both have
09:14some really bad tempers, and we put them out in the wild
09:17and have them do challenges and see what happens.
09:21You know, if they can make it through,
09:23or if they go at each other, if they fight,
09:25if they actually make peace, the winner stays alive.
09:30Whoa.
09:33So only one survives?
09:34Only one survives.
09:36All right, how did it go?
09:37Oh, it was so good.
09:38He's my pee friend.
09:40Pee buddies.
09:49Some yoga, it's a good idea, actually.
09:55It's supposed to be like this.
10:02OK, we're going to go to the next clip.
10:04We're doing the Stacey and Florian talk trust.
10:09Should I go first?
10:10Yeah, go for it.
10:11All right.
10:13She's trying to connect with him.
10:16You know, we've been dealing with trust issues
10:18since you've been in America.
10:20And I want to be able to trust you,
10:22be back the way we used to be.
10:24Oh, I get to see this one.
10:34Florian doesn't want a dramatic relationship.
10:37He wants a marriage that is going to be fun,
10:41that is going to be loving, secure, trustful.
10:45But he doesn't want to go through the hoops
10:47to get there at this moment.
10:49I got to trust you.
10:51You want to take this off of me?
10:52Yeah.
10:53As long as he was going to continue to hang out at bars
10:55and allow other women to flirt with him,
10:58Stacey was never going to feel secure.
10:59Keep it in the hands.
11:00No, I don't want it anymore.
11:02I don't want it anymore.
11:04You take it from me.
11:10I want to be free.
11:19Oh, my God.
11:22He doesn't know what to do.
11:26Give her a hug, Flo.
11:27Come on.
11:27Aw.
11:28Seriously.
11:29I want to be free.
11:37She's been a little bit drama queen, I think.
11:39I mean, he did cheat on her, though.
11:41She kind of forgave him.
11:42But at the same time, it's so hard to forget.
11:45Like, you can imagine them with the other person.
11:47What did they say about you?
11:48Don't think on that.
11:50Well, you can't help it.
11:51Well, just don't.
11:52Just cut it off.
11:54Let's shut it down.
11:54OK, let me just phlebotomize myself, you know?
11:56Like, no.
11:57Tell us to stop.
11:58I don't want to think on it.
12:01Aw.
12:04She had good bottoms.
12:06It's like when she cries.
12:08I gave her that.
12:11I just need to see more action and not talk.
12:15Going to see more action, OK?
12:18Not to try to go more out, like, late, you know?
12:22It's going to change many things step by step, you know?
12:24Little by little.
12:27Since the moment I found out Florian cheated,
12:30I was walking around with this huge weight
12:32and this pit in my stomach, like, was weighing me down.
12:39In that moment, I didn't expect that to happen,
12:42but it was actually kind of like a happy cry.
12:45Like, I'm free.
12:46I'm releasing the old, you know?
12:48And I was ready to trust again.
12:59We're going to hold each other's hands
13:00and look into each other's eyes.
13:02OK, you ready?
13:04OK.
13:06On the hike, we set up toolboxes.
13:08And at each stop, the couples got
13:10to do something that would develop trust or communication
13:15or just to connect.
13:18Eye gazing was one of the activities
13:19that we had the couples do.
13:21It's a very important part of communicating.
13:23It helps build a bond intimately.
13:32OK, then stop.
13:33Whenever you're ready to stop, you can stop.
13:36I'm a very good eye gazer.
13:37I could gaze all day.
13:41OK.
13:42Well, the point of what I wrote on my rock
13:44is that I asked you to show more affection to me.
13:47I'm your wife.
13:48We've been together five years.
13:50I was going to ask you if there's some way that you
13:52can show affection to me.
13:55But I'm not sure if you want to do that,
13:56because you don't want to hold my hands
13:57and even look in my eyes.
13:59She's asking what she wants, and he refuses.
14:02He's checked out.
14:03When?
14:04Just now.
14:06Just when we did it.
14:07Ari is just trying to push through something
14:10to get him to buy into this process,
14:13to buy into their marriage, and to give
14:16her some glimmer of hope.
14:17And he is resisting at every single corner that they turn.
14:22It's really sad.
14:27Do you want to try it with me?
14:28OK.
14:29Gina, would you like to eye gaze?
14:323, 2, 1.
14:43Wow, Josh.
14:45Your eyes are so intense.
14:49He's got these blues.
14:51You just blew it.
14:52He already lost.
14:54I'm getting really turned on, man.
14:58I love those droopy-ass eyes of yours, Tino.
15:02I feel like I see, like, you being vulnerable.
15:06I can see, like, inside of you, you know?
15:09Oh my god.
15:14And then Julia, just stand up.
15:15We'll have you sit down.
15:16Do you want to dance?
15:18Do you want to twerk?
15:19You want to twerk?
15:20Oh, there you go.
15:21You're getting it.
15:27Mikey's in place after that crip walk.
15:31I got my wire on.
15:32Good?
15:33You guys done anything cool legal lately?
15:38All legal here.
15:40OK, guys, we're going to show you a scene that didn't make
15:42it into the actual show.
15:44OK.
15:50I think we got to do what this card says,
15:53which is a gratitude check.
15:55So along the hike, you know, we had, like, checkpoints
15:58where we had to do certain challenges.
16:01In this one, we were supposed to face our partners,
16:04talk about, you know, three things
16:05that we were grateful for.
16:07And then the others would say what they're grateful for.
16:19It feels so forced.
16:21Like, so forced.
16:29He appreciating Natalie rub his back?
16:33That is all what you appreciated for three years?
16:35Yeah.
16:38Why he doesn't remove glasses?
16:40Why I cannot see his eyes?
16:43You know, I mean, when people say gratitude,
16:46they do not shade their eyes.
16:48People shade their eyes when they want to hide something.
16:50Well, I'm not trying to hide it.
16:52It's just sunny eye.
16:52Good point.
16:53I cannot believe I actually spoiled that moment.
16:55Oh, it was so cool.
16:57How could I forget that moment?
16:58I spoiled the moment.
16:59I did.
17:00Did I do it?
17:01I can change.
17:02I can take your position.
17:03I'm strong enough.
17:04I just want to see your eyes.
17:06Oh my god.
17:07I just, I'm wrong.
17:08Like, Natalie, shut up.
17:10First of all, we didn't say third one,
17:11and I didn't see your eyes, so it doesn't count.
17:15Shut up!
17:16I'm sorry.
17:17Like, sometimes I do such stupid mistakes, and I mean,
17:21like, I wish I could change.
17:23I'm going to carry my rocks, because you
17:26are going to suffocate me.
17:27So go ahead.
17:31Natalie just lives inside of her own world sometimes,
17:34you know, where she's the judge, jury.
17:36She's the boss.
17:37She's the president.
17:38She's all of them.
17:39It's really hard to communicate sometimes with her
17:41when she's like that.
17:42I'm sure you understand that.
17:44I understand.
17:45I totally get you on that.
17:47I feel like getting rid of the rock.
17:49Oh, man.
17:51It's not like one person can get rid of the rock.
17:53Basically, you both have to compromise
17:55and agree to do something to work on the problem together.
18:00I think we see a pattern of this with Natalie.
18:02Like, she gets so mad that her emotions take over.
18:05Just stop.
18:07Oh, no.
18:08Here we go.
18:09And her message got lost.
18:11If she would have maintained her composure,
18:13they could have actually just talked about this.
18:17Yay!
18:19Great.
18:21Time to pick up your stones.
18:24You know?
18:26Ah!
18:31Ah!
18:33Ah!
18:55I honestly feel I am my worst enemy sometimes.
18:58And I fight in shadows.
19:01My shadows.
19:03It's always time for everything.
19:05Time to throw stones.
19:07Time to pick up stones.
19:09Yeah, it's philosophy.
19:15All right, here we go.
19:16Here's a bonus clip.
19:17Never before seen.
19:19Yes.
19:20Give it to me, baby.
19:26What's up?
19:27We made it.
19:27We made it.
19:29Survived.
19:31Did you get rid of your stones?
19:33Yeah.
19:34Yeah, we did.
19:34Hey, whose rock did you guys get rid of?
19:37We got rid of both rocks.
19:39We got rid of one.
19:41So we're holding one stone still.
19:43So we got rid of the stone that Benny wrote.
19:48And then we held on to the stone that I wrote,
19:50which was affection.
19:52I wasn't happy about the fact that June and I
19:54didn't get rid of at least one of the rocks.
19:57So you're telling me that Erin and Benny,
20:00that are a match made in hell,
20:03got rid of a rock too?
20:06You know what?
20:07We're losers.
20:08You know, we suck.
20:10We suck.
20:10We couldn't compromise about one single thing.
20:14Why are you crying?
20:15No, she walked off.
20:16Why?
20:17Yeah, because I realized some s*** that I didn't know.
20:20I'm sorry for that, but I see it.
20:25At the end of the hike,
20:29I was looking to Rob outside the van.
20:31And Rob was talking to me about Sophie
20:33and how he feels and how he thinks.
20:35He was, like, opening up.
20:37I feel like you love her more than she loves you.
20:44And then we sit into the van.
20:46Our conversation kept going.
20:48And since we are on a retreat,
20:49fixing each other's relationship,
20:51why wouldn't I say anything?
20:53I feel like you deserve to have someone equal.
20:55Like, the most cool love is, like,
20:58both love each other.
21:02After the hike, when we got to the vans,
21:05I saw Natalie gave Rob a hug,
21:07which she didn't give anyone else a hug,
21:08so why are you hugging my husband?
21:10And then Rob had told me that
21:12she whispered in his ear,
21:14oh yeah, I see what she does,
21:15and I'm so sorry, you deserve better than her.
21:17It really came out of nowhere, to be honest.
21:21I still don't understand her intentions
21:23for coming for me.
21:25I feel like you are the one who is pulling your couple.
21:28Yeah, I mean, I do feel like I've...
21:31I do feel like I've put a lot of love...
21:33I feel like you deserve to have someone equal.
21:36In that moment, F made me feel warm on the inside.
21:38I was like, hey, f*** yeah, somebody sees it.
21:40Even if it's crazy as Natalie.
21:42It did make me feel good.
21:43And it's... And Sophie's just...
21:45I don't know what world Sophie lives in,
21:46but she really thought I was supposed to defend her.
21:48Defend her to Natalie.
21:51How am I going to defend you
21:53to somebody who's validating me?
21:55This is the issue,
21:56because she's ready to give up any time and just leave.
21:59And you keep going and going.
22:01I think we're both trying.
22:03You know, he's hurt me,
22:04and I'm a bit more easily more so ready.
22:06Well, we should concentrate on him more,
22:07and you don't.
22:08Oh my God.
22:11I will tell nervous you are
22:14by how you're sitting there,
22:15and you didn't want to be there.
22:16But Natalie's not the right person
22:19who's telling you,
22:20you should love each other
22:22and work in a new relationship.
22:24And even whatever she thinks,
22:25like, why is she telling me that?
22:26Okay, cool.
22:27Josh doesn't love you at all, so...
22:30Why you didn't answer her like that?
22:33Well, because at the time, honestly, like,
22:35I'm not good with confrontation now,
22:37because I've been through a lot of s***.
22:38But at the time, I just was like, so...
22:40Okay, you know...
22:41Can you answer me?
22:42Like, what you're just saying right now,
22:44because you're just editing your voice.
22:46Yeah.
22:50All right, we're going to show you
22:51some never-before-seen footage now.
22:55Sophie just swearing to me
22:56that nothing happened between her
22:57and somebody in the past.
22:59I told him we dated.
23:01I didn't tell him the full extent.
23:02So did you f*** him?
23:04In that moment,
23:05there were so many emotions happening,
23:08even down to the dynamics of comforters
23:11and stuffed animals.
23:13Can we get into that for a minute?
23:17Game time.
23:18We're going to play Most Likely.
23:20You just need to pull out a piece of paper,
23:22read it,
23:23and you have to decide which cast member
23:25it most applies to.
23:26Okey-dokey.
23:27Let's see.
23:28We're just going to pick
23:28who's most likely to do one thing or another.
23:31Gina, are you ready to play?
23:33I'm ready.
23:33Okay, and here we go.
23:38Most likely to become a priest.
23:42Brandon.
23:43Ooh, maybe Brandon.
23:45Brandon.
23:46Brandon?
23:47Oh, we're Brandon.
23:48Brandon, yeah, your husband.
23:49Hello.
23:51Yeah, I see.
23:52I was going to say,
23:53come to me, child.
23:55Who's most likely to donate a kidney?
23:58So, Julia is most likely to donate a kidney.
24:01The unfortunate part is
24:04it's not going to be donated,
24:05it's going to be sold,
24:06and it's going to be mine.
24:09Really?
24:10Yes.
24:10Okay.
24:11She f***ing jokes about it way too much
24:13that I'm getting uncomfortable, gentlemen.
24:15All right, what's next?
24:17Who's most likely to dine and dash?
24:19I think Gino.
24:21Gino is cheap.
24:22Whatever, I think Natalie,
24:23because she'd go there,
24:24she'd order up a bunch of food,
24:25and then Josh would be like,
24:26I can't make it.
24:27And then she'd be like, uh...
24:28And then she would just leave.
24:29Who's most likely to rob a bank?
24:33I feel like Benny.
24:34I feel like he...
24:35Oh my gosh, the same.
24:36He will flip...
24:38Do a front flip over the fence.
24:39Yes.
24:39Take off, cops never find me.
24:41He will be like, you know, like a...
24:42He's going to be like a ninja.
24:43Like a ninja.
24:44Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
24:45Yeah, yeah, yeah.
24:45Exactly.
24:46I'm going to be in the car outside waiting for him.
24:48Who is most likely to become a porn star?
24:51Oh my gosh.
24:53Yeah, that would be me.
24:55Second place, you.
24:57How did you know?
24:59Because I know, you bitch.
25:01Josh, don't get mad at me,
25:04but I think it would be Natalie.
25:06Ooh, wow, wow.
25:10Next.
25:11Let's see.
25:13Far in a full elevator, Gino,
25:15and he has done it multiple times.
25:19Might be me.
25:20Rob farts all the time.
25:21Really?
25:22Okay, I love him, but that's for Rob.
25:24Most likely to fake their own death.
25:27You know what?
25:28I'm going to give that to myself, Gino.
25:31You are?
25:32You want to hide from Natalie?
25:34I'm going to hide from everybody.
25:35I'm going to be on my own island someday.
25:38Oh, I feel like Natalie.
25:40Absolutely.
25:41I really think he's going to pop out
25:42while everybody's at the funeral.
25:43Just like, are they sad, you know?
25:45Yes.
25:45Are they crying?
25:46Yeah, and second on the list, me.
25:49Who's most likely to hit on another cast member?
25:52Josh.
25:52Josh.
25:53I mean, he did that.
25:56He did that.
25:57Josh did that.
25:57He's a nice guy.
25:59He did that.
26:00Thank you for joining us on another episode
26:02of Most Likely,
26:04and I want to thank my special guest, Mr. Gino.
26:07Thank you so much, Gino.
26:09It's been a pleasure.
26:13All right, Sophie, we are going to show you
26:15some never-before-seen footage now.
26:17You ready?
26:18OK.
26:18Yeah, I'm excited.
26:23Hey, guys.
26:24Hey.
26:25I want to have some conversation.
26:29I'm scared.
26:30We have to at least address how this all happened today.
26:36After the hike, me and Rob did actually
26:38have a therapy session with James.
26:40It definitely felt like I was in a loop with Rob.
26:42I felt like it was either we were attacking each other
26:45or just ignoring the issues.
26:47There was never this healthy communication
26:49where we're both listening and validating and reassuring.
26:52So it did feel like James was kind
26:53of like a security blanket.
26:55I have no idea where Sophie and I go from here.
26:59Because I'm having to be confronted with the idea
27:03that if she would lie to me about one thing,
27:05then she could lie to me about so many other things.
27:09In that moment, I was feeling and seeing his anger.
27:13I was feeling and seeing her anxiety.
27:16There were so many emotions happening.
27:18I mean, even down to the dynamics of comforters
27:22and stuffed animals.
27:24Can we get into that for a minute?
27:26There are some messages that are just loudly being
27:29spoken without the words.
27:31I need comfort.
27:33I need security.
27:34And we're providing them for ourselves.
27:36Specific lies are going through your mind.
27:40Sophie just swearing to me that nothing happened between her
27:44and somebody in the past.
27:46I told him we dated.
27:47I didn't tell him the full extent.
27:49And she still hasn't clarified.
27:51So did you f*** him?
27:53But she just can't own up to it.
27:54Yes, I have owned up to it.
27:55I hooked up with him when I was 14 years old.
27:58I should have told him.
27:59I just didn't feel comfortable to.
28:03I love watching this.
28:04I'm seeing a breakthrough again.
28:06So then I'm sorry for not telling you, but you don't give
28:09me a space to tell you without you sounding very, very angry
28:12at me.
28:14I do feel like the therapy session with James actually was
28:16a breakthrough, especially for me.
28:18Like it was a safe space to talk and Rob's not going to butt
28:21in because James will check him.
28:23So it was it was the first time I was able to like speak and
28:26be accountable and like just say what I actually really want
28:30to say instead of shutting down.
28:33What I'm picking up this sounds like bigger than the situation
28:37Rob for Sophie when someone and you in the situation when
28:42you are becoming loud aggressive, you know, you get worked
28:46up that does something to her and I think that's what happened
28:49today.
28:50I wear my emotions on my sleeve.
28:54I can't help it.
28:57Listen, you're you're entitled to your emotions.
28:59But what I need you guys to understand when you're in a certain
29:02dynamic, it becomes unproductive.
29:06How much you love Sylvia?
29:07How much you hate her?
29:08I don't hate anybody hate hate is a strong word.
29:12How much you love her?
29:15I love her.
29:15You know, I married her.
29:17I love her more than anybody else that I've ever loved.
29:20You love her more than yourself.
29:22Yeah.
29:24While it's not rainbows and unicorns right now, you guys need
29:28to know this is an amazing huge first start.
29:30Okay, I'll see you guys tomorrow.
29:32Get some sleep.
29:33It's a lot.
29:34You love the challenge so much.
29:35That's what it was all about.
29:38Roger here.
29:39That's his own because the love I feel like the love wasn't
29:42being reciprocated the willingness to sacrifice the willingness
29:45to to try and just keep on working and focusing on each other.
29:50I feel like that was missing.
29:51So I figured hey some help a therapist.
29:54Maybe we get somewhere.
29:56It's willing to try it though.
29:58So Jasmine, we're going to show you some never-before-seen
30:01footage now.
30:02Okay.
30:15I don't want to watch.
30:16What am I about to watch?
30:18You think?
30:19Huh?
30:20What do you think?
30:21You look beautiful.
30:22I brought all my cute lingerie.
30:31I came prepared.
30:33I just feel like it's been a while.
30:34I want to get that little sexy back.
30:38I feel like you're turning me down.
30:40No, I'm not turning you down.
30:42I'm just in my cool day today.
30:44I'm tired.
30:47She's older.
30:50Take a blue pill or something dude.
30:52How about a little strip tease?
30:56No, no, no, no.
30:56I don't like that.
30:57Florian was being a what?
30:59A little baby about it.
31:00He was being a what?
31:01A little baby about it.
31:02He wasn't being a baby.
31:02What was he being?
31:03He was being a little bitch about it.
31:04He was being a f****** bitch.
31:07Come on.
31:08Let's be honest.
31:09He was being a little bit like come on bro suck it up.
31:12Yeah.
31:13I'm sorry.
31:14To have the camera on like 24 hours.
31:18It's hard, very hard to be intimacy together.
31:20I know I can't do that s*** man.
31:23I'm just going to put my other bathrobe on.
31:25I feel so bad for her.
31:27Give me a minute, give me a minute.
31:31You start self-doubting yourself
31:33and you start doubting that your man even not just love you
31:38but is even attracted to you.
31:42How can you do that to your wife,
31:43the woman that you love?
31:48Stacey, let's be lesbian.
31:50I'll marry you and f*** you every night.
31:57I want to go home.
31:58I don't want to be here.
31:59This isn't good.
32:01Don't let him trigger you.
32:03She's finding emotional support from another man.
32:05So this is very dangerous.
32:12All right, Brandon.
32:12We're going to show you some never before seen footage now.
32:15Deleted scenes.
32:18What do we got in the vault?
32:27It's so beautiful out.
32:28Absolutely.
32:29Hi guys.
32:30Hi.
32:31Come on in.
32:33How are you guys?
32:34Now better.
32:35Yeah, OK.
32:37I called this session with Brandon and Julia
32:39because on the hike they were with Rob and Sophie
32:42and didn't get to finish all the tasks.
32:44They were very frustrated about that.
32:46So I thought this would be important to have
32:48some time together with them.
32:52Give me a little bit about how you guys
32:54are feeling right now today.
32:56You know, we weren't able to leave our rocks and compromise.
33:01My rocks have put a baby, you know?
33:03OK.
33:04I want a baby and Julia's not on the same page with me.
33:13I feel like I have baby already.
33:16On the first night, Julia came to me and was like, hey,
33:20like, I just want you to know Brandon is struggling
33:22to talk to other people.
33:23Like, if you could be nice to him,
33:24everyone could be nice.
33:25Like, kind of like a kid going to school
33:26and, like, the mom is, like, nervous for her kid's
33:29first day at school.
33:30It's cute, but it did feel like this is, you know, a grown man.
33:32Like, why is Julia telling me this?
33:34Like, she's kind of like his mom in a way.
33:43He have a time and he play with them, pet them, and that's it.
33:46And I worry if you're going to decide to have children,
33:49that's going to be saying, I will be taking care of everything
33:51and he will be come to play sometime.
33:55I let the dogs live their life, you know?
33:57Now, I understand when Julia goes away anywhere,
34:01of course, I take care of them.
34:02At that point, I'm, like, switch on.
34:04Oh, they're my full responsibility at this point.
34:06But if she's home and as she has for the last, like,
34:11couple of years, she takes full care of them
34:15because I go to work, you know?
34:17Those dogs don't leave her side.
34:20And she loves to do it.
34:21I swear to God, she does.
34:24So you have to step up.
34:26Yeah, I'll absolutely admit I need to push.
34:28Yes, because your parents always push you before
34:31and now I need to be your mom and push you for everything.
34:34Parents are every single step in our life.
34:37Okay.
34:39Brandon's such a mama's boy, is his mom involved
34:42is all aspect of our life.
34:44Betty does order meal for him.
34:46Betty does our taxes.
34:48And I ask her, can you teach me to do this?
34:51And she's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, one day I will be teach you
34:52but she didn't want to teach me because if she gonna teach me,
34:55I will be do this and we have to ask her for help.
34:57Yes.
34:58And she always move toilet paper.
35:01Oh my gosh, that's drive me crazy.
35:03She come, run to our house and come to restroom
35:06and switch toilet paper.
35:09Oh, toilet paper should be going to like in the front, right?
35:14When you like for not touching wall.
35:16And she are always put to touching wall
35:19and I go behind her and switch back
35:21and let her go again and switch
35:22and all day we just switch toilet papers.
35:26Okay.
35:26Are we ready to do next clip?
35:28Okay.
35:29And hit it.
35:31Okay.
35:33You can't go from not sleeping with each other to having sex.
35:37It has to be slowly getting into that point.
35:40I don't, I'm not with a woman that's kind to me.
35:42You know.
35:43And nice to me and gentle with me.
35:46I don't have that kind of girl like everyone here has a girl like that.
35:49You know what?
35:49When I hear you.
35:50Wow.
35:51We're not dancing anymore.
35:53We're wrestling.
35:55I deserve to be loved.
35:57I deserve happiness.
35:58I deserve to be loved.
36:00I deserve to be loved.
36:01I deserve happiness.
36:03This is it.
36:05Yeah.
36:06See ya.
36:09So much hurt, disappointment.
36:22Oh.
36:24Who's Matt?
36:28This isn't good.
36:30Matt is a friend.
36:31It was one of my best friends in Michigan.
36:34Does Gino know about Matt?
36:37No, I, Gino doesn't know about Matt because I know he's gonna think that
36:42it's more than a friendship.
36:44He can't be her best friend because Gino would know about him then and
36:49she's saying I've done nothing with him.
36:51But what she's not realizing is she already has an emotional connection
36:56with this man.
36:57So friends or not, there's something deeper there and that's a problem.
37:03He doesn't take accountability of his sexuality problems and the way he
37:08makes me feel is like I am the problem.
37:10Like no one will ever love me.
37:18Well, the biggest red flag is she's finding emotional support from another
37:21man.
37:22I think people downplay emotional connections or emotional affairs
37:25completely.
37:26I think we get focused on did you have sex?
37:29You can have sex with somebody and have no emotional connection with them
37:32and call it a day.
37:34But when you have an emotional connection with somebody, you've already
37:38started developing feelings and you have a bond that's different than just
37:44a sexual attraction or an intimate attraction.
37:47So this is very dangerous.
37:49I'm more scared of an emotional connection than somebody who had an
37:52affair one night.
37:54I don't know what to do.
37:55Should I stay here?
37:57Should I just go back?
38:10Okay, at least some sound advice.
38:21Oh my gosh.
38:22I don't know.
38:25Sucks.
38:26I hate that you're crying.
38:28In my heart.
38:29I knew that he was just a friend.
38:31We have never done anything inappropriate that will damage my relationship
38:36with Juno.
38:37He never advised me like, okay, leave your husband.
38:43He actually he was actually all the time pro marriage.
38:46So that's why I will I never feel like oh Juno's gonna think like I have
38:50something with him.
38:51But Jasmine at the end of the day, Juno doesn't realize that there is
38:57literally probably hundreds of thousands of men that would jump in
39:00three seconds to be with you.
39:03I'm hearing Matt be supportive then he throws in that little bite of
39:07you know, so many men would jump to be with you.
39:14What is their interest?
39:15What's the point of saying that?
39:17Take care.
39:18Okay, bye-bye.
39:20I could not have imagined where Juno and Jasmine's story would go.
39:31Next time on Between the Sheets.
39:33Yes, ready?
39:34One, two, three.
39:38My hat fell off in front of everybody.
39:40I was kind of embarrassed.
39:41It's the first time they saw Juno naked.
39:48Yes, shake that booty.
39:57I can only imagine how embarrassing that is for you.
40:00For sure.
40:01My parents watch the show.
40:06I see Benny flipping around my wife.
40:15She's have respect, you know.
40:18I cannot judge Liza.
40:23Jasmine, bro.
40:25He was inviting Sophie to his place.
40:28She doesn't love him.
40:35Jasmine seems like she was instigating a lot of this and trying
40:40to make this happen.
40:41And so was Sophie.
40:43Yeah.
40:44I'm so mad.
40:48They abused her so much that she broke.
40:50And so if we could do it all over again, I would tell Natalie
40:55go flip that bitch's drink out there.