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00:00It's time for Lefties Losing It and I regret to inform you that Hollywood celebrities,
00:05even ones who were once widely admired, have decided to trash their own brand in an effort
00:12to get Trump. Just watch this pathetic performance from Tom Hanks.
00:17I'll thank you. Hey, speaking of church, can I say something?
00:21If more folks went to church, we wouldn't be in this mess we're in now.
00:26And it didn't end there. Watch what happens when a black man tries to shake the hands of
00:32a Tom Hanks idea of a Trump supporter. This is what these out-of-touch dimwits from Hollywood
00:40think of the average American. They don't just hate the president, they hate the majority of
00:45their countrymen. Remember when Saturday Night Live was actually funny? Me neither. That's just
01:14weapon grade cringe bereft of any wit, insight or anything approaching humour.
01:21And Tom Hanks and the SNL writers must think that's the average Trump voter, including the
01:27vast coalition of migrants who voted for Trump. They consider them all, what, dumb and racist.
01:33I call that projection. And before we look at more celebrities embarrassing themselves,
01:38let's see how average Americans reacted to President Trump, this time at Daytona. Listen
01:44for the crowd reaction when Donald Trump was on the big screen during the anthem,
01:49exactly like what happened at the Super Bowl.
01:52Star-spangled banner yet wave, o'er the land of the free.
02:05Back to the celebrity class and let's have a look at this brave and stunning bit of activism
02:12from singer Sheryl Crow, who has sold her Tesla as a protest against Donald Trump and Elon Musk.
02:22Oh, say goodbye.
02:28She posted that herself. Yes. And there's more. She had to virtue signal about donating the
02:34proceeds to leftist media outlet NPR. Just so brave and stunning. Now let's go to Rachel Maddow
02:42at the lunatic asylum that identifies as MSNBC. Listen here as she beclowns herself with this bit
02:50of fake news. Elon Musk has apparently somehow convinced the United States government,
02:55specifically the United States Department of State, that the taxpayers of the United States
03:02of America should spend four hundred million dollars buying, quote, armored Tesla production
03:11units. Isn't it great? And definitely not at all illegal or profoundly corrupt. Definitely not
03:17ripping us all off to pay themselves. Right. To hear that profoundly corrupt, illegal, outrageous.
03:24Except there's one little problem, Rachel. Let Fox News' Jesse Waters fill you in on a
03:31pertinent fact. Donald Trump didn't give that contract to Elon Musk. Joe Biden gave it to him.
03:38It was Joe Biden, Rachel. It was Joe Biden. Just more misinformation from the chief Russian
03:45collusion hoaxer, Rachel Maddow. Now let's check in with a trans activist with this important
03:51message. My pronouns aren't preferred. They are mandatory. Do not purposefully misgender
03:57trans people. You do not get to decide how someone identifies. My pronouns aren't preferred.
04:03They are mandatory. No, no, they're not. And talking about trans activists, here is one with
04:10Michael Knowles. And she first claims that men identifying as women are not stealing women's
04:17trophies and medals. And then within seconds, there's a flip. Apparently, it's a good thing
04:24that that's happening. Nine hundred sports trophies from women in recent years. And they didn't take
04:29nine hundred. They took nine hundred. This report just came in from the United Nations, actually.
04:33Eight hundred ninety trophies and medals across six hundred women who were competing competitors
04:39across twenty nine different sports and four hundred competitions. That came out like yesterday.
04:43And they deserve them. It didn't happen and they deserve them. OK, that is the logic I hear from
04:48the pro trans crowd. Yeah, thank you. They do deserve that. It didn't happen and they deserve
04:52the Michael Knowles as the patience of a saint. Now, let's have a little trip down memory lane
04:58to Donald Trump's first term when he warned the Germans about becoming too reliant on Russian
05:05energy. Germany will become totally dependent on Russian energy if it does not immediately change
05:13course. Here in the Western Hemisphere, we are committed to maintaining our independence
05:23from the encroachment of expansionist foreign powers. The German contingent thought that was
05:31hilarious. And the man you can see sitting at the front there laughing his silly little head
05:37off is Christoph Hoeksen laughing and thinking it was all one big fat joke. Now, remember him
05:44because I'm going to come back to him. And as you know, Trump was right. Germany's dependence
05:50on Russian energy has been disastrous for the nation in recent years. But do you think the
05:55Germans have learned to listen to good advice? No. When J.D. Vance gave a groundbreaking speech
06:02in Munich last week about the biggest threats to Europe coming from within, when he warned them
06:07about the sinister suppression of free speech in European countries, the growing anti-democracy
06:14sentiment among the elite and the manner in which they have allowed millions of unvetted migrants
06:19to flood in. Well, the Germans were again aghast. You can almost hear the gasps as J.D. Vance speaks.
06:28No voter on this continent went to the ballot box to open the floodgates to millions of unvetted
06:34immigrants. But you know what they did vote for? In England, they voted for Brexit and agree or
06:40disagree, they voted for it. And more and more all over Europe, they're voting for political
06:45leaders who promise to put an end to out-of-control migration. And you guessed it, among the most
06:51appalled by J.D. Vance's speech was this guy who had a little cry about it. So let us stick to
06:58these values. Let us not reinvent them, but focus on strengthening their consistent application.
07:06Let me conclude and this becomes difficult.
07:18Yes, that's Christoph Hugesen again. And if you think those tears are for his nation or for Europe,
07:25which he helped damage alongside Ms Merkel, well, you'd be wrong. The tears were for himself because
07:30the German diplomat is stepping down from his illustrious position as Chairman of the Munich
07:36Security Conference. Joining me now is Newsweek's Senior Editor-at-Large and Article 3 Project
07:42Senior Counsel Josh Hammer. Josh, the Germans just refuse to listen to good advice.
07:51Rita, it would not be the first and it's not gonna be the last time that the Germans have failed to
07:54listen to some advice of varying degrees of strength from the Americans, I suppose.
08:01Three cheers for J.D. Vance. My goodness. I mean, that was a barn burner of a speech. That frankly
08:06is why we wanted J.D. Vance to be the Vice President of the United States, or at least
08:09why I wanted him. I mean, Rita, I wrote an op-ed column last March titled Vice President J.D. Vance
08:14making the case for J.D. Vance to be Donald Trump's running mate. And this is exactly what I thought
08:18we were gonna get. And I am just grinning ear to ear delighted that this is indeed what we are
08:23getting. Germany is the heart of the European liberal imperium. Brussels, Belgium is literally
08:28where the European Union is based. I know because I've been there to the building. But Germany is
08:32the most economically powerful country in the world. So to go into the lions, excuse me, the
08:35most economically powerful country in Europe. So to go into the lion's den there and to say what he
08:40said about free speech, about energy independence, about migration from third world Islamist hell
08:45holes there. Man, that guy has a spine. And I just cannot wait to see what J.D. Vance does for the
08:50rest of his vice presidential tenure. Because if that is any indication of what is to come,
08:54we are in for a historic vice presidency. Absolutely. And I think after that vice
09:00presidency, he has to be hot favorite to be the 48th president of the United States. And
09:08it would be quite a. Can you just imagine him continuing that Trump agenda if he's got
09:15and I'm getting ahead of myself, but I'm thinking about two terms for J.D. Vance and
09:19what could be achieved if you've got those solid 12 years of meaningful change in America. It's
09:26it's exciting to think about. But let's stay in Germany for a minute. Let's look at the
09:32manner in which they are cracking down on free expression or what they call online hate speech.
09:39Inside, six armed officers searched a suspect's home, then seized his laptop and cell phone.
09:46Prosecutors say those electronics may have been used to commit a crime, the crime
09:52posting a racist cartoon online at the exact same time across Germany.
10:01More than 50 similar raids played out. Part of what prosecutors say is a coordinated effort
10:07to curb online hate speech in Germany. Josh, I'd be willing to bet money that many of those
10:14online posts aren't even racist, given stating facts about crime rates and immigration levels
10:21is considered hate speech in some quarters. But when you watch that,
10:27that's precisely what J.D. Vance was talking about. This crackdown on free speech, this
10:34suppression of citizens who are concerned about what's happening to their country.
10:39Yeah, Rita, the country of Germany suppressing free speech, what could possibly go wrong? Oh,
10:46wait, yes, tragically, we have been down this road before. But by the way, Margaret Brennan,
10:53the anchor on CBS's Face the Nation earlier in the same day yesterday, well, she was talking about
10:59how there was apparently too much free speech and that and that caused the Holocaust there. So
11:03whether it's Face the Nation or whether it's 60 Minutes, CBS apparently is all in on an anti-free
11:08speech censorious agenda. Makes you wonder why CBS is actually a distant third in the mainstream
11:14media ratings behind NBC and ABC. Frankly, all of the ratings are falling, but CBS is dwindling more
11:19that more than the others there. But the state of free speech all across Europe and both the
11:23continent and the U.K. is genuinely appalling right now. And, you know, the U.K. in particular
11:28really makes me want to cry because I'm something of an Anglophile, actually. I love the Anglo-American
11:34inheritance. I mean, frankly, Britain gave the world free speech in many ways there. But,
11:37I'll share with you this brief anecdote. So Keir Starmer is the very left-wing prime minister right
11:41now in Westminster in London. It has become pretty common to refer to him as two-tier Keir because of
11:47his two-tier system of justice. I actually put that on my show and on social media. I had a
11:52friend who's a lawyer in London, Rita, get a load of this. He messaged me and said, Josh, you should
11:56take that down. I said, what are you talking about? He said, you won't believe it. But because of the
12:00long-arm jurisdiction statute that Britain has these days, you could be prosecuted for that.
12:05For me, tweeting here from the United States that Keir Starmer is two-tier Keir. That's the
12:09state of so-called free speech in the U.K. Tragically, in Germany, based on what we just
12:13saw, I think it's actually even worse. Now, let's go to the U.S. where the Department of
12:19Government Efficiency has had a big win in the courts against the law fair that the Democrats
12:26are launching. I know you wrote about this in Newsweek. You wrote about this so-called judicial
12:33resistance movement that has sprung up. And you say that these people involved in this may think
12:41they're acting nobly, but they're, in fact, acting unconstitutionally. And in the end,
12:48they're going to be humiliated. They're going to be humiliated because they are way out of line
12:54and they're way out of line because the federal government cannot be shut down by the ruling of
13:00a lone lower court federal judge deep in the bowels of his chambers in Hawaii or Alaska or
13:05Florida or Maine. That is simply not the system of governance that our founding fathers here in
13:09America set up for us. In fact, in an 1804 letter that our third president, Thomas Jefferson, wrote
13:15to Abigail Adams, the wife of John Adams, he famously said in this letter that at the time
13:20that the judiciary here in America starts to decide cases, not merely for the litigants before it,
13:25but purporting to bind the entirety of the federal government, that would be a despotic branch.
13:30Abraham Lincoln took the exact same approach. It's simply not the system we have here. So these
13:34so-called nationwide injunctions have to end. That is not part of the judicial power of which
13:39our constitution speaks. The United States Supreme Court is going to have to weigh in here sooner
13:42rather than later. Thankfully, Rita, I actually am pretty optimistic that they will do so.
13:46There's a Supreme Court that is well constituted to rule correctly when it comes to bread and butter
13:50structural separation of power as issues, but it's incumbent upon the Trump Department of Justice
13:55to directly tee up that appeal. Once they do so, I think that the Supreme Court will grant it.
14:00I think that they will rule correctly. Now, I covered Tom Hanks's pathetic antics on Saturday
14:08Night Live. I don't know how else to describe them. It was exceptionally unfunny, lacking in
14:15any sort of wit or intelligence or humour. I've got to ask you, Josh, why would such a mainstream
14:24actor trash his own brand in this way? If you're going to trash your own brand and infuriate the
14:31majority of the country, then at least, I don't know, be interesting, be funny, be clever in some way.
14:37This was just lame. It really does seem beneath the dignity of Tom Hanks, doesn't it? I mean,
14:44Tom Hanks, once upon a time, was a brilliant actor. Maybe not at this point later in his career,
14:51but, you know, look, earlier in his career, I mean, Forrest Gump, Philadelphia, I mean,
14:56Catch Me If You Can, even the Steven Spielberg movie from the early aughts. I mean, Tom Hanks
14:59has been in a lot of classics going back 25, 30 years. You know, once upon a time, it's probably
15:04hard for this audience to believe, once upon a time, Saturday Night Live here in America was
15:08actually pretty funny. I mean, once upon a time, we had people like Chris Farley. We had actually
15:12genuinely talented comedians. I mean, to this day, a lot of the great stand-up comics here in
15:15America really kind of came up through the ranks of Saturday Night Live, but it has been a very,
15:20very long time, because they have attracted anything remotely resembling high-caliber
15:24comic talent. I couldn't even tell you the last time that I tuned in, frankly, on a Saturday
15:28evening, and I'm particularly very pleased that I happened to miss this dreadful Tom Hanks performance.
15:34I was just embarrassing. I was embarrassed for him watching it. That's how bad it was.
15:41Now, I'd love your take on Jerry Seinfeld not giving a stuff about offending the pro-Palestinian,
15:49anti-Israeli movement. Have a look at this. Jerry, can I get a selfie? Sure. Free Palestine.
15:58I don't care about Palestine. That's sad.
16:02Now, that's how you do it, Tom Hanks. If you're going to be controversial, at least,
16:05I don't know, be interesting and a little bit funny. I'd imagine Josh is copying all
16:09sorts of flack for that, but I doubt he cares. He doesn't care, and kudos to Jerry Seinfeld for
16:16taking a righteous and correct stand on this particular issue. I mean, he was trending this
16:22direction for years, Jerry Seinfeld, many years ago. I first remember him speaking out against
16:26woke cancel culture on American college campuses. This is clearly an issue that he cares about. He
16:31visited Israel after October 7th. There was actually, he's a diehard New York Mets baseball
16:35fan. There was actually a clip of Jerry Seinfeld at a Mets game back during baseball season a few
16:39months ago here in the U.S., and they kind of zoomed in on him, and he was wearing his Mets
16:42uniform. He said, let's go Mets, and let's go IDF. So, he's been very public about this for a while
16:47now, but you know, this son of a you-know-what here on camera, that guy had that coming, frankly,
16:52and good for Jerry Seinfeld for not backing away in the heat of the moment there. I hope that he
16:56only doubles down from here. I think he will, actually. I don't know if you're aware, but he
17:01did a tour of Australia last year, and there were these hecklers in the crowd, always these
17:07pro-Palestinian plants who, halfway through the show, would start shouting, Free Palestine and
17:13River to the Sea, or whatever else they were shouting, and he handled it, again, beautifully.
17:18He just mocked them. He went at them. He did not back away. He didn't try to appease. He didn't
17:25try to ignore them. He made them part of the show, and I thought it was really quite effective. He
17:31did that in multiple cities in Australia. Before you go, we've seen polling showing how popular
17:37Donald Trump's key policies are. We've been discussing that earlier this week, but it's not
17:42just the policies that are popular. Despite the overwhelming negative publicity the President
17:49receives, his own popularity is on the rise. This latest poll shows 55% approve of him now. That's a
17:58decent approval rating. 43% disapprove. Josh, that's a net gain of 12% for the President.
18:07It's actually even more than that if you go back to his first term. Donald Trump spent the majority
18:11of his first term with an underwater approval rating. By the way, so did Barack Obama, so it's
18:14not like Donald Trump had anything unique. Joe Biden definitely had an underwater approval rating
18:18there. So, I mean, frankly, you know, Americans have been so fed up with the government for so
18:21long that to have any President, frankly, with an above-water approval rating there, you probably
18:25have to go back to the very early days of the Barack Obama administration before he went totally
18:29off the rails, if I had to guess. But it's been a hot minute, so to speak, there. And the reason
18:33for that is because Donald Trump leads what I like to refer to as a coalition of the common sense.
18:39It is really not a particularly partisan movement here. You have ex-Democrats like RFK Jr., like
18:45Tulsi Gabbard. It, frankly, is a coalition of people who are just sick of stupid crap. I'm
18:50sorry to not phrase it more artfully, but that really basically is what it is. It's a coalition
18:54of people that are sick of gender ideology. They are sick of this idea of universal values and mass
18:59migration policy there. They just want normalcy. They want basic common sense stuff. Thankfully,
19:05Donald Trump came in with a mighty vengeance in this MAGDA 2.0 second term, and he is delivering
19:09oodles and oodles of good old-fashioned common sense. Joining me now is Sky News contributor
19:14Kosha Gaider. Kosha, let's start with Bordasar Tom Homan. He's got his sights set on Democrat
19:21Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. No, he doesn't want to deport her. She is a US citizen after all,
19:27but her attempts to help illegal immigrants evade authorities may see her charged by the
19:33Department of Justice. AOC has been pushing a webinar claiming that ICE raids are political
19:39tactics that are intended to create fear, and this webinar also encourages migrants not to
19:45open their door if federal agents come knocking. That seems unwise, Kosha, unwise. It does, and
19:51Tom Homan does not come across as the kind of guy you want to mess with, and she has sparred with
19:55him before, and there's this viral congressional hearing from last year, four years ago maybe,
20:00where she was doing a different version of the same thing. But whether it's her doing this,
20:04we saw Governor Phil Murphy of New Jersey a few weeks ago blatantly saying that he's housing an
20:10illegal on top of his garage, and I dare the feds to come in, and others like that. It's really
20:15interesting. It shows that they're so comfortable with flouting immigration law, which has gone on
20:19forever and a day in America, and they obviously believe that they're beyond reproach. So he is
20:24suggesting that the DOJ go after people like this, elected representatives that are suggesting the
20:30flouting of the law. I don't know if they will do that, but you never know. You make an example of
20:34one person in some way, and it might deter others from taking a similar tactic. Well, it seems
20:39unwise politically as well. We know AOC and the squad, they're to the very far left of the
20:45Democrats, but really they have set the agenda, it seems, for some time. But the Democrats can
20:51read the polls. They know these programs to control illegal immigration, to deportations,
20:57controlling the crisis of the border. They're popular. So why would they want to highlight
21:04not just their failures in opening the floodgates, but also just signal to the rest of the country
21:10that we're okay with this. We're in fact facilitating this. It's a good point. They seem to
21:16be behind the curve now that they're out in the wilderness and have been defeated after really
21:20holding on to every institution and being on the winning side for so long. It sounds like they don't
21:24know how to actually be on the losing side and read the room. And you're right that the public
21:30support for this has shifted so dramatically. Just even 10 years ago, it looked nothing like this.
21:34Now it's something like 59 to 60 percent of people support all illegals, not just the violent
21:39criminal offenders, but all illegals being deported. That is new. The American electorate
21:44has consolidated around this issue and they seem to be stuck in a different decade and they haven't
21:49caught up to this reality. The Trump administration keeps saying if you enter the country illegally,
21:54by definition you're a criminal. You've broken our immigration laws, so you have to go. Now let's
22:02talk a little bit about NATO. It's looking like a major political realignment is underway and it's
22:08a win for the Trump administration. European countries in the NATO alliance have agreed to
22:13step up their defence spending after President Trump's request that they increase the number
22:18to five percent of GDP. Here is NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte. Really, Europe is now
22:25stepping up. Last week, I was a bit disappointed that Europeans were saying, hey, we also have to
22:32be at the table and why are we not there? And they're now really starting to dialogue, to
22:37strategise how they can support the peace effort and that is important. By now we are spending 700
22:42billion more on the European side of NATO than before President Trump came into office. It is
22:47absolutely still not enough. We have to do much, much more. It's not enough. We have to do much
22:53more. This is after they've boosted spending significantly and it's precisely what the US
22:59was pushing for. Again, a lot of people seem to deliberately misunderstand Donald Trump's
23:05strategy, what his goals are here. He doesn't want to weaken NATO. He wants NATO members to
23:12actually spend their money and not have just America carrying the load. It's a continuation
23:18of what he campaigned on even the first time and even before he entered politics. And the
23:23Secretary over there actually has credited Trump in the past where he said, you know, nobody ever
23:27asked us to pay up to our obligations before Trump. He did, so we're doing it. And something
23:31like eight nations were delinquent and were not even meeting their obligations, which at the time
23:35was two to three percent. Now they're raising the obligation. This is what Trump advance and
23:40Pete Hegseth have been pushing over that conference and in other venues as well to five percent. And
23:45in the 60s, that's where it was. It was around four, a little over four percent, what the EU
23:49was paying in the wake of the Cold War and that era. And now it's down to one to two percent.
23:54So that is kind of the point. Eighty years post World War Two, how long should America be the
23:59guarantor of security, subsidizing all sorts of other programs as a result of that in Europe,
24:05as well as what are we defending? That was a J.D. Vance speech that went viral
24:08when they're not even acting like democracies in some ways with censorship and cancelling
24:13elections and all of that. So this is a watershed moment and it's a big shift from post World War
24:17Two. I'll be talking with Josh Hammer later in the program about that J.D. Vance speech.
24:23And I've listened to it a couple of times now. So I listened to his full
24:28speech in Paris a day or so earlier. His clarity is astonishing. The way he covered these major
24:38points in 18, 19 minutes, it didn't seem to be looking at any notes. It didn't seem to be
24:43reading from an autocue. And it was just crystal clear where the US stands, where its values are
24:51and what it expects from Europe. He wasn't necessarily making demands, though, Kosha. He
24:57was just telling them this is happening under your watch. And it's it's disturbing, especially
25:05when he was talking about the suppression of free speech and the way the concerns of
25:12everyday citizens have been disregarded. And that's the other piece of it. So part
25:16of it is the first layer is the spending and having some sort of level playing field in terms
25:22of spending obligations, as we discussed. But the second thing is much deeper, which is that,
25:26that the shared alliance between European societies and American societies post World War Two
25:30was that some of these tenets of free societies, freedom of speech and other issues that he raised.
25:35And if they're no longer abiding by that, then his point is that's almost like a double whammy
25:39that we're overpaying for your security and we're paying to defend a society that's kind of lost
25:44its way in terms of censoring its own citizens. And you're right, he did not mince words. He was
25:47rather blunt. He was blunt, but it was a message that they need to hear. And it's a message that
25:54we've spoken about on this program. I have Douglas Murray on every week. He wrote about a decade ago
26:00about the strange death of Europe. This is a phenomenon that has been commented on by
26:07intellectuals brave enough to state the obvious. And yet the Europeans were just appalled or
26:14shocked that anybody would dare speak these home truths to them. It's a new day. And that's also
26:20the difference between Trump, 47 versus 45, where everybody around him really is singing from the
26:26same song sheet. And they genuinely believe in that vision, the populist America first worldview.
26:33And that's why they can speak with such clarity, whereas last time he was sort of battling
26:37people internally. And then the message that would be communicated externally wasn't always
26:40aligned the way it is now. And he's getting his people thus far through. So he's had Tulsi now,
26:46RFK Jr. Kash Patel is one of the big ones that we're waiting for a vote there. But how do you
26:54see that administration coming together? Because it is very different from that first Trump term
27:00where he almost was prioritizing D.C. experience over loyalty, over competence. They weren't
27:08necessarily his people. And it showed because there was a lot of disunity and disloyalty there.
27:15How do you see this going? I know it's only been four weeks, but it seems to be
27:20a very systematic method, methodical approach he's had to getting his people into key positions.
27:27A hundred percent. Like Trump 2.0 seems like night and day compared to 1.0 where there,
27:31you know, he was experienced in other realms with so new to D.C. and that was so evident where he
27:36was relying on recommendations from other people and didn't really know what he was
27:40doing in terms of personnel. He's mentioned that himself versus now. I feel like that whole
27:44four year term and the amount of heat he took officially and unofficially, and then what
27:49happened in 2020 and the intervening four years has been a huge litmus test for who is truly MAGA,
27:56populist, pro-Trump, pro that America First agenda and who isn't. And it's been a very
28:00clarifying eight years, which has allowed him to really identify the right people this time.
28:06And he just didn't have that benefit last time. And we're seeing that with the picks.
28:09And he's almost got rid of the rhinos, if you want to call them Republican name only.
28:17The GOP is now Trump's party. There's a few still hanging on you, Mitch McConnell's and a few
28:23others. Moving along, let's look at how a CNN host not only refuses to fact check obvious,
28:29verifiable lies from Democrat Amy Klobuchar, but she reinforces those lies.
28:35Two trillion dollars in tax cuts to the wealthiest and paying for it by cuts to
28:41cancer research at NIH, something that has bipartisan support for years and years or
28:47stopping Head Start or sending people to protect our nuclear stockpile.
28:54I know they are. But what I'm saying is at some point the pressure is on them.
28:58That type of hyperbole and scaremongering is just not working. And the polls are telling us that.
29:05Indeed, it's kind of like AOC and immigration, like we talked about,
29:08that the public sentiment has shifted all the way over. And these folks don't seem to have
29:12caught up where these tactics used to work, where you anytime anybody wants to
29:16talk about cutting spending thirty two plus trillion dollars in debt, we have to do it.
29:21You leap immediately to receiving children from malaria in Africa. We're doing cancer research.
29:25We're helping underprivileged kids get a head start in education. Like it's easy to point
29:30to those things and make the other side like the big bad bogeyman that's taking money away.
29:34It doesn't work anymore. And the way they're doing it with Doge and just putting out the receipts,
29:38as they say, of how much waste, fraud and abuse is happening. Everybody's seeing it.
29:42It's disseminated all over social media. And then these tactics, I think, are going to fall flat.
29:46But that's the only playbook they know. So they're going to keep doing it.
29:49Absolutely. And the worthwhile programs, the ones that do enjoy public support.
29:53Well, they're going to be absorbed into other parts. You don't need to have U.S.
29:57A.I.D. in existence to to devote funds to those worthy projects.
30:03Keshia Gaynor, thank you so much for your time tonight.

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