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00:00Where are they coming from, these people in the boats?
00:03People have been fleeing countries all over the world.
00:06Where are they coming from? Where are they getting to the boats?
00:08Well, they got onto the boats in France, as you well know.
00:10Is France a country...
00:14Hang on, hang on, if you both talk at the same time...
00:16Wait a minute, if you both talk at the same time...
00:19Hang on, Peter, please. If you both talk at the same time, nobody can hear.
00:24No, I asked you a factual question and he's answered it. They come from France.
00:27France is not a country in which they suffer persecution or have any reason to fear persecution.
00:32Once they've reached France, they're not refugees.
00:35And it really is time that you stopped over-emotionalising this
00:39and making out that it's some sort of act of cruelty for one highly civilised country
00:44to refuse to take people who wish to enter from another highly civilised country illegally.
00:50If they want to come to this country, they should come legally.
00:53They are already in a safe country.
00:55And it doesn't need anybody, it doesn't even need Rishi Sunak to pass a bill
00:59saying that France is a safe country, because France is a safe country, as we both agree.
01:03So I'm afraid you're just laying it on a bit thick.
01:05And I'm sorry, I know you've got a bad throat, but I just do think
01:08you should be more careful in your language about...
01:10You just don't understand international law.