How Collaborating With Miranda Lambert 'Challenged' the War and Treaty to 'Broaden Our Perspectives'
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00:00What was the most challenging song for you to write, produce?
00:03What was the most challenging for you?
00:05I think all of the ones that we didn't do alone.
00:09I mean, we wrote one song with Miranda Lambert,
00:12and it was challenging, but not like, oh, this is so difficult.
00:16But more like it challenged us to broaden our perspectives a little bit.
00:22I think that it did it in every way.
00:25You know, so shout out to Moe.
00:27Hey, Miranda.
00:28How did the collaboration with Miranda come together?
00:32Well, we did the ACM Awards, I guess it was 2020 in the pandemic.
00:362021.
00:372021.
00:38And it was our first time doing something commercially in the country music space.
00:44We'd done the Country Music Hall of Fame where we inducted Dottie West.
00:48And Dierks Bentley invited us to come.
00:51And so the next, I guess, right before we did it,
00:54Miranda sent a really sweet card and a pair of boots to me.
00:57Actually, I have them on now.
00:58Oh, my God, that's amazing.
00:59I wasn't even thinking about it.
01:01And I thanked her and everything for it.
01:04And we just became friends.
01:06So we'd see each other out at different events and kind of hinted to doing something together.
01:10And this was Miranda's idea.
01:12One day, she and Michael had been texting.
01:13And she was like, hey, I'm in town.
01:16Let's go to the studio.
01:18And so we went to the studio with her and Jeffrey Frazier.
01:21And Jessie.
01:22Jessie Frazier, I'm sorry.
01:24And we listened to a lot of different songs.
01:26And this was the one.
01:27She was like, this is the one.
01:28We're going to write to this.
01:29And we did.
01:30It's a great song.
01:30Yeah, it was really good.
01:32She's a genius.
01:33Yeah.
01:33Working with her in the studio and just how she does her vocal arrangements.
01:38And I think people don't get an opportunity to experience that side of her or see that
01:43side of her because it's a studio.
01:44Right.
01:45But we co-wrote that song with her.
01:47And it was great.