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00:00Yeah, and to give Mr Trump credit, he was one of the first people to raise the alarm
00:04about the failure on the part of a number of NATO countries to meet that 2% of GDP target
00:13on defence spending. And to this day, only two-thirds of NATO countries are actually
00:20meeting the target. I mean, why have they not got the message so far, do you think?
00:24I think European states have become dependent on the United States. They would prefer to
00:29spend their money on lavish social programs. But I might add that Trump said that 2% is
00:34not enough, and Hegseth said the same thing. Trump would like to see the minimum amount
00:39of defence spending to be raised to 5% of GDP, and he believes that European leaders
00:46have a responsibility to explain to their people the security threats facing Europe
00:52and why they must spend more in defence to deal with these threats.