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00:00:00I sincerely apologize for causing you so much trouble and concern.
00:00:08I am deeply sorry.
00:00:13On the 27th, Fuji TV held a press conference on the issue of employees being involved in the women's troubles of former talent Masahiro Nakai.
00:00:23More than 400 journalists, including freelancers, attended the conference, which lasted more than 10 hours.
00:00:30Fuji Media Holdings, a parent company of Fuji TV, held a temporary board meeting on the 23rd,
00:00:39and decided to set up a third-party committee based on the guidelines of the Japan-U.S. Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities to investigate the relationship.
00:00:48Speaking of the third party, the National People's Party was the third party to win the casting vote in October last year.
00:00:57In a nationwide public opinion survey conducted by NMM and Yomiuri Shimbun in December last year,
00:01:03it was found that efforts to implement the policy, such as revising the wall of 1.3 million yen a year, had been evaluated,
00:01:10and the approval rating of the National People's Party was 12% out of 24% of the people's party, making it the first party to win the election.
00:01:19In addition, there have been three reprimands against the defendant Mizuhara Ippei,
00:01:25who is accused of bank fraud in the form of a former translator of Shohei Otani,
00:01:33but the verdict was finally passed on July 7th.
00:01:37In Tahoe, the Yokohama DNA BASTERS, who won third place in the Pro Baseball Seleague last year,
00:01:43won the Climax Series in Gikokujo and broke the Fukuoka SoftBank Hawks in the Nippon Series and shone the most in Japan.
00:01:52What comes to mind when you hear it?
00:02:07This music that everyone has heard at least once.
00:02:10Yes, it is the theme song of the third man, a popular masterpiece in the movie history.
00:02:21In Film Noir, which depicts people carrying the shadow of war on the stage of the second World War,
00:02:31this last scene is so famous.
00:02:35In Film Noir, which depicts people carrying the shadow of war on the stage of the second World War,
00:02:40this last scene is so famous.
00:02:45In Film Noir, which depicts people carrying the shadow of war on the stage of the second World War,
00:02:53Can Fuji TV be reborn under the investigation of the Third Party Committee?
00:03:00Can Fuji TV be reborn under the investigation of the Third Party Committee?
00:03:08Can Fuji TV be reborn under the investigation of the Third Party Committee?
00:03:16In addition, the nobles who are currently eligible for the noble title are
00:03:20Akishinomiya, Hisahito, and Hitachinomiya.
00:03:26What do they need for a stable career in the future?
00:03:32The members of the committee, including experts, will be discussing.
00:03:37And...
00:03:38Hey, hey, Mr. Medai.
00:03:40Moridaku-san.
00:03:41What is it, Chiaki-chan?
00:03:43Mr. Ishiba is the most important person in the current Japanese Cabinet.
00:03:48Because he is the Prime Minister of the Cabinet.
00:03:51Then, who is the second most important person?
00:03:54Who is it?
00:03:55This is a video often seen on TV news.
00:03:58This is a place called the Cabinet of Ministers.
00:04:03It is said that the seat order here indicates the rank of the Cabinet.
00:04:08The Prime Minister sits in the middle.
00:04:10The person next to him is No. 2.
00:04:12The person next to him is No. 3.
00:04:14In the second Kishida Reconstruction Cabinet,
00:04:17the person next to him is the Minister of Health and Welfare.
00:04:20The person next to him is the Minister of Finance, Suzuki.
00:04:23The seat order indicates the rank of the Cabinet.
00:04:26What is going on now?
00:04:28The person sitting on the left side of Prime Minister Ishiba is the Minister of Defense, Nakatani.
00:04:34The person sitting on the right side is...
00:04:36Who is this person?
00:04:38The Prime Minister, Murakami.
00:04:41He is the Minister of Telecommunications.
00:04:44That problem...
00:04:46It's not just about telecommunications.
00:04:48Does that mean the Prime Minister is No. 2 in the Cabinet of Ministers?
00:04:55That's what the seat order indicates.
00:05:00Well, I don't think the Black Chair recognizes that.
00:05:07The Cabinet of Ministers N.P. Emergency Plan
00:05:11A thorough discussion on No. 3!
00:05:24Hello.
00:05:26This time, we will have a thorough discussion on No. 3.
00:05:31Please welcome the members of the Cabinet.
00:05:37This is Mayumi Kurata, a manga artist who has appeared for the first time in two years.
00:05:41Nice to meet you.
00:05:43It's been a while.
00:05:45Kurata-san, I heard you are writing a book.
00:05:48Yes.
00:05:49It's called, Husband Who Didn't Use Antibiotics.
00:05:52My husband passed away exactly a year ago.
00:05:55He had a cancer.
00:05:57My husband didn't use antibiotics once.
00:06:01He didn't even try to have surgery.
00:06:05At that time, I was told a lot of information about what other people were doing.
00:06:10In Japan, there are many people who use antibiotics and have surgery.
00:06:19I couldn't find any information about how people who don't use antibiotics live.
00:06:25In the case of my husband, I wanted to write a book about how he passed away.
00:06:32I will publish it on February 14th.
00:06:34I see.
00:06:35Do you write about the details of the cancer?
00:06:38Yes, I do.
00:06:39I write as much as I can.
00:06:41Do you go to a cancer care facility?
00:06:44No, I stay at home until the end.
00:06:46I see.
00:06:47I watch until the last moment.
00:06:50I see.
00:06:52I think this book will be helpful for many people.
00:07:00The first time in a year.
00:07:02Mr. Nomura, a lawyer.
00:07:06If Mr. Nomura is in the second row, I will be in the third row.
00:07:11We are all Nomura.
00:07:12We are all Nomura.
00:07:13If possible, I want to be in the second row.
00:07:16Are you aiming for the second row?
00:07:18The second row is not a big deal.
00:07:21Mr. Nomura, you are an expert in the third-party committee.
00:07:27I am a member of the committee that creates guidelines for the third-party committee in Japan.
00:07:35I think everyone is paying attention to this issue.
00:07:39Let's start with this topic.
00:07:42First of all, will the truth be revealed?
00:07:45Let's start with this topic.
00:07:58Hey, Mr. Nomura.
00:08:00What is the third-party committee?
00:08:03The third-party committee is an organization that has members from companies, lawyers, and experts who have nothing to do with the company.
00:08:17The Japanese Lawyers' Association has guidelines for choosing only people who have nothing to do with the company.
00:08:24Today's panelist, Mr. Nomura, was involved in the development of the guidelines.
00:08:32He is surprisingly great.
00:08:33He is a great person.
00:08:35So, is there anything good if you ask the third-party committee?
00:08:40In the case of an injury that requires the responsibility of an agent, there is a risk that the investigation will be too weak.
00:08:48The aim is to increase trust by having the outside world investigate.
00:08:52However, there is no authority to investigate forcibly like the police, so there is a limit to the investigation.
00:09:02So, isn't it necessary to verify whether the investigation of the third-party committee was sufficient?
00:09:11Yes.
00:09:12So, there is an organization called the Third-Party Committee Report Board.
00:09:18What is that?
00:09:20In fact, one of the members is Mr. Nomura.
00:09:26Really?
00:09:27He is a person who says anything.
00:09:30On the 27th of last month, Fuji TV held a press conference on the issue of female troubles of a former talent, Ms. Masahiro Nakai.
00:09:41I'm sorry.
00:09:43The conference, which was attended by more than 400 reporters, including freelancers, lasted more than 10 hours.
00:09:51While the management was in a state of confusion, as the explanation of the troubles between Ms. Nakai and the woman was insufficient,
00:10:01the chairman of the board, Mr. Koichi Minato, and the chairman of the board, Mr. Kenji Shimizu, announced that they would appoint a new chairman.
00:10:14In response to this, they asked about the delay in the internal investigation and the failure of the investigation of Ms. Nakai.
00:10:22They avoided a clear explanation for the reason of protecting women's privacy.
00:10:27After grasping the troubles, they emphasized that the movement of the program should not affect women, and that it was a consideration for women.
00:10:40However, the reporters pointed out that they prioritized Ms. Nakai and the viewership rate.
00:10:48In addition, Mr. Hisashi Hieda, the representative of the Fuji-3 Group, who serves as a consultant for Fuji Media Holdings, a parent company of Fuji TV,
00:10:59answered that he would not carry out his duties because he was a consultant.
00:11:10On the other hand, after the meeting, a weekly article on the issue of Fuji TV and Ms. Nakai was published on the website.
00:11:22In response to this, Mr. Shimizu, the new chairman of Fuji TV, stopped questioning the timing of the correction of the article,
00:11:30and filed a lawsuit against Mr. Shimizu.
00:11:36In response to this, Mr. Shimizu, the new chairman of Fuji TV, stopped questioning the timing of the correction of the article,
00:11:46and filed a lawsuit against Mr. Shimizu.
00:11:54However, there is no change in the issue of governance, such as whether there was a problem with the company hood of Fuji TV,
00:12:06and the revival of the relationship between the parties is a pressing issue.
00:12:11Fuji TV and Fuji Media Holdings will hold a temporary meeting on March 23,
00:12:18and establish a third-party committee based on the guidelines of the Japan-U.S. Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities.
00:12:24The results will be summarized by the end of March.
00:12:30In addition, the evaluation of the third-party committee's report will also be carried out.
00:12:39I have a question for everyone.
00:12:41Do you think you can trust the investigation of the third-party committee?
00:12:48I have a question for everyone.
00:12:50Do you think you can trust the investigation of the third-party committee?
00:12:53Yes, it is divided into whether you can trust it or not.
00:12:57First of all, Mr. Nomura, who was involved in the setting of this guideline.
00:13:01It is written that the third-party committee is the worst.
00:13:04However, if there is a good committee, it can be a really bad committee.
00:13:09Why is that?
00:13:11As a lawyer, if you get money from the client, you have to work hard for the client.
00:13:17However, the third-party committee is a very difficult job where you have to say harsh things to the client while getting money from the client.
00:13:25So, if you make a mistake here, it may be considered as a loss.
00:13:33It is very important to be independent.
00:13:36However, there is a possibility that the independent person does not know much about the subject of the investigation.
00:13:42Then, for the sake of the investigation, you have to get a lot of information from the third-party committee.
00:13:47However, even if you ask the office, you may not be able to get the real information.
00:13:53Or, in some cases, the people you want to ask as a hearing may not be properly arranged.
00:13:59Then, even if you intend to conduct a thorough investigation,
00:14:02there is a risk that the report you have made will actually be sent to the company.
00:14:07There are such structural problems, so it is a very difficult job.
00:14:12As for the third-party committee that I am setting up in Fuji,
00:14:18so far, I think that it is composed of good members.
00:14:27What do you mean?
00:14:28There are quite a few people with only names.
00:14:32For example, if a person who was the director of the Prosecutor's Office comes,
00:14:39you may think that he is a bad person.
00:14:42I'm sorry.
00:14:43There are only a few people.
00:14:45So, for example, if such a person comes, there is a possibility that it will be settled.
00:14:51However, in short, everyone believes that such a person investigated it.
00:14:55But there are pros and cons to this.
00:14:57In the case of being involved in a criminal case, such a person is responsible.
00:15:02However, in the case of a company, you need to be familiar with the corporate system.
00:15:09In that sense, rather than trying to settle it with a person with a name,
00:15:13I think it's not bad as a human right because you can see that you're asking someone you really know.
00:15:19Who will do the human rights?
00:15:21Actually, there is a lawyer's office that the company itself asks for crisis management first.
00:15:29This lawyer's office will work in various ways for the client.
00:15:34It will be in the form of choosing the right person.
00:15:39In order not to become a person who has a connection with the company,
00:15:42it is necessary to have one cushion in it.
00:15:44They will call the person who they think is the most suitable.
00:15:49The names of the three people have already been listed.
00:15:52The director, Mr. Takeuchi, is a member of the third party committee.
00:15:59He has a list of the investigation reports of the third party committee with me.
00:16:09He's pretty strict, too.
00:16:11So he has a list of F and so on.
00:16:14Then you don't know what you're going to be told when you do it.
00:16:18So I think I'll do my best this time.
00:16:21There is a possibility that you don't know about the company.
00:16:23In particular, I don't know about the scene on TV.
00:16:27I've been dating for a long time, and for the first time,
00:16:31I can finally see who is making it.
00:16:35I don't know how deep the investigation can be.
00:16:43Depending on the report that came out,
00:16:45I don't think it's going to be a little bit of a problem this time.
00:16:50I'd like to ask Mr. Namura, who made the guidelines.
00:16:54I can't trust you.
00:16:56I have the impression that I can't trust you after seeing the guidelines.
00:16:59So I'd like to ask you as a whole, not as a third party committee of Fuji TV.
00:17:06I think it's a good idea to choose people who have nothing to do with it.
00:17:12So what do you mean you have nothing to do with it?
00:17:15In the guidelines, it's like, of course, I'm a lawyer.
00:17:19That's all it says.
00:17:21And one more thing.
00:17:23When the third party committee is established,
00:17:26What are you doing when you choose a member?
00:17:29There are a lot of cases where you just throw it all over the lawyer's office.
00:17:34So why do you do that?
00:17:36It's because you've chosen too many weird people.
00:17:38It's a tough thing to do.
00:17:39And it's not a coincidence that you've done something that's impossible to achieve.
00:17:43You're looking for a good place to drop it, and you're throwing it all over the lawyer's office.
00:17:47And the lawyer's office knows.
00:17:50I know there's a place to include it.
00:17:52I've seen a number of cases where a real third party committee comes up.
00:17:56I'm sure there's a problem around here.
00:17:58You've pointed out a very important point.
00:18:01In fact, the guidelines themselves are too formal.
00:18:05It's a standard that I've never signed a contract before.
00:18:09I've never been in a relationship before.
00:18:13Even if I don't have a relationship at all,
00:18:15I'm with Mr. Suda right now.
00:18:17Mr. Suda is a little scary.
00:18:19So I'm a little bit of a coward.
00:18:22It's like...
00:18:23I'm angry.
00:18:25So I don't see this kind of thing in my eyes.
00:18:28It's an exceptional relationship.
00:18:29I can see it in my eyes.
00:18:32But it's like, I don't know.
00:18:34It's like a deep atmosphere.
00:18:36It's like a coward.
00:18:38I don't know if it's done properly.
00:18:41You can tell by looking at it yourself.
00:18:44That's why the scope is really narrow.
00:18:47I don't want you to touch what you really don't want to touch.
00:18:50There's a report like that.
00:18:52That's why you're doing it.
00:18:54That's what I'm doing.
00:18:55But what I think is a problem is...
00:18:57There are a number of third-party committees that cost a lot of money.
00:19:00I think it's a forensic expense recently.
00:19:02It's 3.6 billion yen for Japan Display.
00:19:05Sakuta Holdings has 400 pages to fix 5 cases.
00:19:09It's a request for 19 cases.
00:19:11Mr. Sasaki talked about the Supreme Court.
00:19:15I think it's a new source of income for the Supreme Court.
00:19:19In such a way, a foreign lawyer entered a company that was damaged by bankruptcy.
00:19:23This is already a third party.
00:19:25I'm going to do it more and more.
00:19:27When I saw that there were more than 80 investigative assistants,
00:19:31What do you think about the third-party committee?
00:19:34That's also a very important point.
00:19:36If you make it a business, it'll be the worst.
00:19:41Forensics, which we just talked about,
00:19:43It's a job that investigates all emails and servers.
00:19:48There are experts in this field.
00:19:50It's a lot of money.
00:19:52We need to find out if this kind of investigation is really necessary.
00:19:57Another very important thing is...
00:19:59There's a way the reporters see it.
00:20:02If you say you've got a third-party committee,
00:20:05The coverage will be over in one fell swoop.
00:20:08You won't be able to report anything until the report comes out.
00:20:12I think this can be used to buy time.
00:20:15There are companies that make third-party committees.
00:20:18If you do that, it's going to be exciting.
00:20:20It's on fire.
00:20:21As soon as you say you've created a third-party committee,
00:20:23There's no more reporting.
00:20:26It's been a long time, three months, four months, five months.
00:20:29By the time the report came out, everyone had already forgotten.
00:20:32It's like, are you still doing that?
00:20:34In short, it's used to calm people down.
00:20:37Of course, there's a part of it on the company side.
00:20:40It's the same with Fuji this time.
00:20:42After all, a great lawyer, Mr. Nanowaru, came in.
00:20:45If there's a report that says Fuji has nothing to do with it,
00:20:48What about that lawyer?
00:20:50I think it's an atmosphere where we have to take responsibility this time.
00:20:54But actually, for example,
00:20:56Even if there was a dinner party,
00:20:58I don't know if he was involved in the company.
00:21:00I think it's a pretty subtle state.
00:21:02After all, there is no investigative authority.
00:21:04There is no investigative authority.
00:21:06Of course, there is a question of whether or not we are really getting there.
00:21:10But I'll just say one thing.
00:21:12I'm not in charge of the third-party committee.
00:21:15You're making it up, aren't you?
00:21:18I'm not in a position to protect the third-party committee.
00:21:23If you ask me the other way around, it's like Minato's position.
00:21:40I'd like to ask Nishida-san, too.
00:21:42Are you affected by the human rights system?
00:21:44One thing I can say is that it's a short period of time.
00:21:48At that time, I was able to set up a solid office.
00:21:52I'm very curious about whether it will really work.
00:21:55You said it was short at the end of March.
00:21:58I thought it was short, too.
00:22:00I think it's possible to extend the period of time after the investigation.
00:22:06I think it's possible to extend the period of time after the investigation.
00:22:12I think it's possible to extend the period of time after the investigation.
00:22:18Kurata-san, what do you think?
00:22:20I've been listening to what you've just said.
00:22:23I don't think there's anyone I can trust.
00:22:27I mean, from the beginning of my life,
00:22:30I don't know if the lawyer that this lawyer chose has anything to do with it.
00:22:37However, according to what has been reported about Fuji TV this time,
00:22:41The target audience is only employees of Fuji TV and its parent company.
00:22:45I don't think this is the case.
00:22:47For example, I've been on this show a few times.
00:22:51But I honestly don't know who is the TV station staff and who is the production company.
00:22:58We're all making a TV show as a team.
00:23:01So there must be a lot of people in the production company or daily business.
00:23:07If you don't listen to that, you won't know about the TV station.
00:23:11So I don't think this is enough.
00:23:14To sum up what I just said,
00:23:18First of all, the production company, the broadcaster, the talent,
00:23:22And the employees of Fuji TV,
00:23:25And Mr. Hieda.
00:23:26If you don't listen to everything and postpone it,
00:23:30You won't be able to do that in a few months.
00:23:33If you don't pay attention to that, you'll lose out on other TV stations.
00:23:37After all, there are a lot of things that don't match the age of TV.
00:23:42This is also a warning to myself.
00:23:45So you have to do that.
00:23:48I'm saying this again and again,
00:23:50I'm good at pursuing TV, but I'm not good at being pursued.
00:23:55You have to change that.
00:23:57Whether the third party committee will be evaluated or not,
00:24:00The result is already clear.
00:24:02In short, if you evaluate it strictly, it will be evaluated.
00:24:06If you evaluate it sweetly, it won't be evaluated.
00:24:08This is already decided from the beginning.
00:24:11Whether you are convinced or not,
00:24:12There are no people who read hundreds of pages of content.
00:24:14That's why Mr. Shuuya Nomura said,
00:24:17If you say okay at the end, I'll trust you.
00:24:21After all, it's personal at the end.
00:24:23If the third party committee were to accept this,
00:24:25Of course, it's not just this case.
00:24:28Why did this case cause trouble?
00:24:34Did it affect the way the company worked so far?
00:24:39I absolutely have to look into this.
00:24:41In addition, after the discovery, the president embraced it himself.
00:24:48The company has a proper system.
00:24:51There is such a thing as a department of compliance.
00:24:53The company where the president embraces the trouble
00:24:56It's an ungrateful company.
00:24:58If you have a problem with anything,
00:25:00It's a good idea to make it a president's case.
00:25:02Everyone is angry because they don't believe it.
00:25:06In addition, why didn't the board of directors stop the press conference
00:25:13that was held with Mt. Fuji at the beginning of January?
00:25:19The reason why this is the case is that the board of directors is not functioning.
00:25:23The reason why the board of directors is not functioning is that
00:25:25In the end, everyone is silent because they're looking at someone's face color.
00:25:29That's right.
00:25:31After all, Mr. Hieda's problem is this big problem.
00:25:35There's no end to it without investigating it.
00:25:39I have to change the TV late in time.
00:25:42Another important thing is that I caught a big talent MC.
00:25:47I think Fuji TV has the strongest flow of people who have a connection with this person.
00:25:57There are others.
00:25:59There is.
00:26:01I've been doing it for seven years, so I know that.
00:26:05If the TV is still in a very good condition,
00:26:09If there are a lot of broadcasters,
00:26:13Of course, there was a time when there was a meeting of great popularity and it looked hazy.
00:26:18If it's cut down more and more,
00:26:20It's almost done with this big MC.
00:26:25There aren't many programs that discuss this kind of thing.
00:26:31So, in the midst of such a trend,
00:26:34It doesn't make sense if you don't do it to the background.
00:26:39If there was such a scheme, it would be over.
00:26:43Mr. Nishida, what do you think?
00:26:45It's a strong impression that it's up to the Third Party Committee.
00:26:48Originally, without waiting for the investigation of the Third Party Committee,
00:26:51You should be able to implement the governance reform yourself.
00:26:54You should be able to express that yourself.
00:26:57People have changed, but how to change the governance specifically,
00:27:00What to do with the re-issue prevention measure,
00:27:02I don't think I've proposed anything about what to do.
00:27:05Let's move on to the next theme.
00:27:07Next up is the long-standing theme.
00:27:10Is it finally over?
00:27:12It's been said for years that it won't go up.
00:27:14This is the theme.
00:27:16Think about the Third Party Committee.
00:27:19Tell me, Mr. Meidai.
00:27:21The Third Party Committee.
00:27:23Hey, hey, Mr. Meidai.
00:27:25What's the Third Party Committee?
00:27:28I don't think you're used to hearing that word.
00:27:32It's called the Third Party Committee, which continues to base up.
00:27:36It's a way to take advantage of the corporate welfare system.
00:27:40What's a welfare system?
00:27:43A welfare system is...
00:27:46It's a service or payment that companies provide to employees.
00:27:51Health insurance, pension system, paid leave,
00:27:54Employee cafeteria, employee discount, etc.
00:27:57It's part of the welfare system.
00:27:59Does that lead to a raise?
00:28:02For example,
00:28:04Sanicro, a parts inspection company in Yamanashi Prefecture,
00:28:07Since 2021,
00:28:09Eden Red Japan in Tokyo has launched a ticket restaurant
00:28:12that utilizes the non-custodial framework of the Welfare System.
00:28:17Companies can deposit money into a dedicated IC card,
00:28:20and employees can purchase meals and food
00:28:23at restaurants and convenience stores.
00:28:27The deposit amount to the card
00:28:29is the burden of employees and companies.
00:28:32Under certain conditions, such as the amount of money and the burden,
00:28:35the income tax for the burden of the company becomes non-custodial tax.
00:28:39So...
00:28:41Employees have more tools to use for meals,
00:28:44and companies can form a budget,
00:28:46so they don't have to bear the burden of the non-custodial tax.
00:28:51Companies are making a lot of effort
00:28:54to increase the number of employees.
00:28:57That's a lot of work for freeloaders.
00:29:00But Mr. Suda brings home a lot of bento boxes from the restaurant.
00:29:05What?
00:29:06Those aren't bento boxes.
00:29:09They're thieves.
00:29:11That's a bad image.
00:29:12Speaking of thieves...
00:29:14In December last year,
00:29:16the government reviewed the annual wall,
00:29:18and decided on a policy to raise the 1.3 million yen
00:29:21to 1.23 million yen
00:29:23through a non-custodial tax reform in 2025.
00:29:28On the 4th of this month,
00:29:30a policy to raise the 1.3 million yen
00:29:32through a non-custodial tax reform was approved,
00:29:34but the National Democratic Party
00:29:36has been insisting on raising the 1.3 million yen to 1.7 million yen.
00:29:40The three parties, the people, the republic, and the people,
00:29:43will meet again in earnest in the future.
00:29:47Meanwhile,
00:29:49among the private companies,
00:29:51there is a movement to raise the number of new employees
00:29:54in order to acquire excellent talent.
00:29:57Among them, the first retailing company, Uniqlo,
00:30:01will raise the number of new employees
00:30:04from 300,000 yen to 330,000 yen this March.
00:30:07Meiji Yasuda Life Insurance and Taisei Construction,
00:30:11will also be raised from 300,000 yen next year.
00:30:15The federal government has set a target
00:30:18of 5% increase in the base-up rate
00:30:20and the low-base-increase rate
00:30:22at the beginning of this year,
00:30:24especially in the mid- and early-years.
00:30:29President Tomoko Yoshino said in January this year
00:30:32that she hopes that the base-up rate of the mid- and early-years companies
00:30:35will exceed the overall rate
00:30:37and that the gap will be reduced,
00:30:40but will it really happen?
00:30:44Also, while many companies
00:30:46are raising the number of new employees,
00:30:48the base-up rate of the mid- and early-years companies
00:30:50is relatively low,
00:30:52and we can hear some grudges
00:30:54from the job-hunting generation.
00:30:56The job-hunting generation
00:30:58has been working hard
00:31:00from 1993 to 2005
00:31:02after the bubble collapsed,
00:31:04and many of them
00:31:06couldn't find a job
00:31:08and became unemployed.
00:31:10Even though they got used to being unemployed,
00:31:12they were not blessed with the opportunity
00:31:14to raise their salary,
00:31:16and they were spoiled by low wages for a long time.
00:31:18Looking at the new employees now,
00:31:20it may be possible to complain about it.
00:31:24Anyway,
00:31:25here's a question for everyone.
00:31:28Do you think that the first-time workers should be paid more?
00:31:35Now, we're asking everyone.
00:31:37Do you think that the first-time workers should be paid more?
00:31:39Yes, well, it's divided into
00:31:41whether they should be paid more or not,
00:31:43but in the case of the VTR earlier,
00:31:45I'll tell you for the sake of Mr. Suda's honor.
00:31:47That was to prevent food loss, right?
00:31:49Don't say things like that!
00:31:51It's the same thing, isn't it?
00:31:53Mr. Suda,
00:31:55in the case of small and medium-sized companies,
00:31:57it's still difficult.
00:31:59Well, it doesn't matter
00:32:01how much the first-time workers should be paid.
00:32:03If they're paid 100,000 yen,
00:32:05there are probably
00:32:07about 1,000 companies in Japan,
00:32:09including large companies and small companies.
00:32:11There are only large companies
00:32:13with 1,000 to 2,000 employees.
00:32:15How many small and medium-sized companies
00:32:17are there in Japan?
00:32:193.36 million companies?
00:32:21There's no room for that.
00:32:2370% of the profits of small and medium-sized companies
00:32:25are lost in human resources.
00:32:27There's no room for
00:32:29any more first-time workers to be paid.
00:32:31The number you mentioned earlier
00:32:33was 6%, but
00:32:35that's a bit difficult.
00:32:37It's difficult, isn't it?
00:32:39In the case of an alliance,
00:32:41it's more like a combination of
00:32:43a pharmacy and a large company.
00:32:45I don't think it's a good idea
00:32:47to increase the number of first-time workers.
00:32:49Rather than increasing the number of first-time workers,
00:32:51it's better to increase the minimum wage.
00:32:53If you don't increase the profits of small and medium-sized companies,
00:32:55even if you increase the number of first-time workers,
00:32:57it won't solve anything.
00:32:59That's right.
00:33:01But if you don't actively increase
00:33:03the number of companies that have the ability,
00:33:05the excellent people will go abroad.
00:33:07I was surprised this time.
00:33:09My friend's daughter graduated from university
00:33:11and got a job in Japan.
00:33:13How much do you think the minimum wage is?
00:33:15It's 800,000 yen.
00:33:17Wow.
00:33:19That's a lot of money.
00:33:21All the excellent people will go abroad.
00:33:23People of this generation
00:33:25are getting worse and worse.
00:33:27No, no, no.
00:33:29Is there something wrong with the previous generation?
00:33:31No, no, no.
00:33:35We raise the minimum wage for young people
00:33:37because we don't want to reverse the situation.
00:33:39As a result, the gap between the 40s and 50s
00:33:41is getting smaller and smaller.
00:33:43People ask me,
00:33:45what do you think about this?
00:33:47I think it's good for consumption.
00:33:49I'm a tax officer.
00:33:51The tax office, especially the tax office,
00:33:53was very low
00:33:55because it didn't have a special account.
00:33:57Even now,
00:33:59I'm very stingy
00:34:01according to the level of first-time workers.
00:34:03I was really tired the other day.
00:34:05I was really tired today.
00:34:07I thought I'd buy something good for lunch.
00:34:09I bought a sandwich
00:34:11for 200 yen.
00:34:13It's always 100 yen.
00:34:15I don't contribute to Japan's GDP at all.
00:34:17There are more and more young people
00:34:19who raise the minimum wage.
00:34:21So I think it's better
00:34:23to raise the minimum wage
00:34:25to some extent
00:34:27and raise the minimum wage
00:34:29for people with consumption power.
00:34:31How can we raise the minimum wage
00:34:33where we can't raise it?
00:34:35There are small and medium-sized companies
00:34:37that can't protect their employees.
00:34:39I want to ask Mr. Suda.
00:34:41Do you want to protect the company
00:34:43or the people?
00:34:45There are so many small and medium-sized companies
00:34:47in Japan.
00:34:49If you don't protect the company,
00:34:51you can't protect the employees.
00:34:53What should we do?
00:34:55They say it's better
00:34:57for employment to flow.
00:34:59Do you mean that small and medium-sized companies
00:35:01that can't be raised
00:35:03will collapse more and more?
00:35:05As Mr. Suda said,
00:35:07there are so many places
00:35:09where you can raise the minimum wage.
00:35:11There are so many small and medium-sized companies
00:35:13in Japan.
00:35:15If you say that,
00:35:17it's definitely a set with the minimum wage.
00:35:19I'll give you an example.
00:35:21There was a continuous payment
00:35:23for COVID-19.
00:35:25I looked into the story of that.
00:35:27First of all, the government
00:35:29spent 7.76 billion yen
00:35:31to build a system
00:35:33to prevent the spread of the virus.
00:35:35Then, they cut the cost
00:35:37and went to the advertising agency.
00:35:39I don't say which one,
00:35:41but you can roughly guess.
00:35:43Then, they went to a small company
00:35:45and cut the cost again.
00:35:47Then, they went to various companies
00:35:49and cut the cost again.
00:35:51They cut the cost
00:35:53and spent 7.76 billion yen.
00:35:55This alone is not enough.
00:35:57They collected tax costs
00:35:59and spent 5 trillion yen.
00:36:01If you don't change the mood
00:36:03in line with that,
00:36:05you can't rely on
00:36:07increasing the minimum wage
00:36:09for the people.
00:36:11If you don't make a bigger movement,
00:36:13this system is no good.
00:36:15I don't know much about it,
00:36:17but in fact, small and medium-sized companies
00:36:19have a lot of subsidies and subsidies,
00:36:21so they are in a better position
00:36:23than large companies.
00:36:25In the first place,
00:36:27I think there are advantages
00:36:29and disadvantages of this system.
00:36:31First of all,
00:36:33it is a system where
00:36:35the salary is determined
00:36:37by the number of jobs
00:36:39and the salary of each person.
00:36:41If you only raise the minimum wage,
00:36:43the senior employees
00:36:45will be dissatisfied.
00:36:47If they are dissatisfied,
00:36:49they may stop talking about it.
00:36:51Then, the liquidity of the labor market
00:36:53may increase,
00:36:55so I think it would be better
00:36:57to raise the minimum wage
00:36:59for the people.
00:37:01It's easier for people to move.
00:37:03That's right.
00:37:05The incentive to work for a long time
00:37:07will go down.
00:37:09By the way,
00:37:11it is the data of the Ministry of Labor
00:37:13the day before yesterday,
00:37:15but the rate of salary increase
00:37:17by generation is 2.6%
00:37:19compared to the previous year
00:37:21in the first half of the 20s,
00:37:232.8% in the second half of the 20s,
00:37:25and 10% in the third half of the 20s.
00:37:27In our generation,
00:37:29the rate of salary
00:37:31has dropped by 3%
00:37:33from the 50s to the 54s.
00:37:35I think it's great
00:37:37that big companies
00:37:39are raising the minimum wage.
00:37:41But honestly,
00:37:43it's like listening to
00:37:45another planet's story.
00:37:47I'm in the same generation,
00:37:49so I understand it very well.
00:37:51There were dozens of people
00:37:53who couldn't get a job.
00:37:55At that time,
00:37:57the whole Japanese society
00:37:59was self-responsible.
00:38:01They were caught up
00:38:03in the benefits of the future,
00:38:05and the cost was cut.
00:38:07We didn't have a job,
00:38:09and we couldn't get married.
00:38:11I think that's why we became
00:38:13the minority.
00:38:15We are a generation
00:38:17with a lot of people.
00:38:19People of this generation
00:38:21couldn't get a job.
00:38:23Why?
00:38:25Did you do something wrong in your past life?
00:38:27No, no, no.
00:38:29I didn't do anything wrong.
00:38:31I didn't get a good name at all.
00:38:33Even in the last election,
00:38:35the Democratic Party
00:38:37in front of the station
00:38:39raised the minimum wage.
00:38:41I thought it was easy.
00:38:43But no matter what,
00:38:45even if you say something like
00:38:47a wall of 1.3 million yen,
00:38:49you can't get a job.
00:38:51For example,
00:38:53an animator who has been working
00:38:55for free for a long time
00:38:57has nothing to do with it.
00:38:59Mr. Ono, I think it's an important point.
00:39:01By the way, I'm at the bottom
00:39:03of the Hyogaki generation.
00:39:05As you pointed out,
00:39:07there are a lot of people
00:39:09who don't work regularly.
00:39:11I think it's very important
00:39:13to combine it with
00:39:15people who don't work regularly.
00:39:17I think it's important
00:39:19to raise the overall level.
00:39:21The problem of the century
00:39:23is really floating,
00:39:25so there should be
00:39:27Heizo Takenaka here,
00:39:29not me.
00:39:31Let's move on to the next theme.
00:39:33This issue has not been
00:39:35resolved for many years.
00:39:37Will the Ishiba administration
00:39:39be able to pave the way for
00:39:41a solution?
00:39:43Koi Keisho Juni
00:39:45Hey, Mr. Meidai,
00:39:47what is Koi Keisho Juni?
00:39:49The current Koushitsu is
00:39:51composed of 16 Kousoku,
00:39:53including the Emperor
00:39:55and the Emperor's wife.
00:39:57Among them,
00:39:59only the three
00:40:01male Kousoku
00:40:03can perform Koi.
00:40:05Koi Keisho Juni is
00:40:07Akishinonomiya,
00:40:09who was the first Koushi,
00:40:11Akishinonomiya,
00:40:13who was the second Koushitsu,
00:40:17and Hitachinomiya,
00:40:19who was the third Koushitsu.
00:40:21Among the Koushitsu,
00:40:23the Emperor's son,
00:40:25Kotaishi,
00:40:27who is the first Koushitsu,
00:40:29is not present.
00:40:31But I think
00:40:33the current Emperor
00:40:35has a daughter.
00:40:37But
00:40:39in the first chapter
00:40:41of Koushitsu Tenpan,
00:40:43Koi is determined
00:40:45to be performed
00:40:47by a male Koushitsu.
00:40:49Therefore,
00:40:51female Kousoku
00:40:53cannot perform Koi.
00:40:55But if there are only three
00:40:57male Koushitsu
00:40:59who can perform Koi,
00:41:01what should we do next?
00:41:03Let's ask
00:41:05Takeda Tsuneyasu,
00:41:07the founder of Koushitsu Tenpan,
00:41:09to tell us.
00:41:11Disband Koushitsu Tenpan.
00:41:15Twenty years ago,
00:41:17during the reign of Koizumi Junichiro,
00:41:19the Koushitsu Tenpan
00:41:21was recognized
00:41:23by the Koizumi Cabinet
00:41:25as a Koui Kensho.
00:41:27If a female Kousoku
00:41:29marries a male Koushitsu,
00:41:31the child is allowed
00:41:33to perform Koui Kensho.
00:41:35Therefore,
00:41:37the Koushitsu Tenpan
00:41:39was designated
00:41:41as a female Koushitsu.
00:41:43However,
00:41:45the Koushitsu Tenpan
00:41:47was postponed
00:41:49due to the birth
00:41:51of Hisahito-sama
00:41:53in Akishino-nomiyaki
00:41:55in 2006.
00:41:57However,
00:41:59the Koushitsu Tenpan
00:42:01was approved
00:42:03by the Yushiki-sha meeting
00:42:05held in Akishino-nomiyaki.
00:42:07After that,
00:42:09the Kishida Cabinet
00:42:11decided that
00:42:131. The female Koushitsu
00:42:15should maintain
00:42:17the status of Koushitsu
00:42:19even after marriage.
00:42:212. The male Koushitsu
00:42:23should return to the Koushitsu
00:42:25as a Koushitsu.
00:42:27These two proposals were proposed.
00:42:29Mr. Takeda Tsuneyasu
00:42:31was very happy about it.
00:42:33However,
00:42:35due to the lack of concrete discussion,
00:42:37the Koushitsu Tenpan
00:42:39became a big problem
00:42:41and the Koushitsu Tenpan
00:42:43was abolished
00:42:45in October last year
00:42:47and the Koushitsu Tenpan
00:42:49became a minority.
00:42:51On the 31st of last month,
00:42:53the Koushitsu Tenpan
00:42:55and the Koushitsu Tenpan
00:42:57held a meeting
00:42:59in Akishino-nomiyaki.
00:43:01The meeting was attended
00:43:03by Moriyama,
00:43:05Asou,
00:43:07and Noda
00:43:09of the Liberal Democratic Party.
00:43:11The two proposals
00:43:13of the Yushiki-sha meeting
00:43:15agreed that
00:43:17the Koushitsu Tenpan
00:43:19should be abolished
00:43:21in June.
00:43:23However,
00:43:25the Koushitsu Tenpan
00:43:27was also
00:43:29agreed by the other parties.
00:43:31However,
00:43:33there are some disagreements
00:43:35among the wives of the woman Koushitsu
00:43:37and whether the Koushitsu Tenpan
00:43:39should be recognized
00:43:41as a Koushitsu.
00:43:43The Liberal Democratic Party
00:43:45contradicts the right
00:43:47to appoint female kestrel
00:43:49as the future king
00:43:51but the Liberal Democratic Party
00:43:53is more positive.
00:43:55On the other hand, the Liberal Democratic Party asserts that it prioritizes the approval of former members of the Miya family.
00:44:07Chairman Nukagawa emphasized at a press conference after the meeting that the confrontation of opinions is not the will of the people, but the responsibility for the future, and that it is important to respond to the people's concerns.
00:44:24On the other hand, the United Nations Convention on the Elimination of Discrimination against Women announced last year that men of all genders would inherit the rights to the Japanese government.
00:44:38The Japanese government expressed its opinion that discrimination against women should not be done, and is taking countermeasures to prevent the Japanese government from using Japanese subsidies for the activities of the convention.
00:44:53I have a question for all of you. Do you think it's okay for the public to say that men of all genders should inherit the rights to the Japanese government?
00:45:23Do you think it's okay for the public to say that men of all genders should inherit the rights to the Japanese government?
00:45:53There are many assumptions, such as who will give birth to a boy, or who will have a son.
00:46:06However, there is no Miya family, and of course, there is no woman.
00:46:14However, there is no Miya family, and of course, there is no woman.
00:46:19So, it's a matter of whether it's a female or a resurgence of the old Miya family.
00:46:26So, it's a matter of whether it's a female or a resurgence of the old Miya family.
00:46:35So, it's a matter of whether it's a female or a resurgence of the old Miya family.
00:46:41Originally, there were many cases where the son of the new emperor, or the son of the emperor, left the palace and came back.
00:46:53But now, to be honest, many generations have passed.
00:46:56But now, to be honest, many generations have passed.
00:46:59It's a totally different situation from what we've seen before.
00:47:02I think it would be a conflict if we did that.
00:47:04I think it would be a conflict if we did that.
00:47:07I'd like to ask both Takenaga-san and the public about that too.
00:47:10Well, regarding the current situation,
00:47:13there was the issue of suicide rates!
00:47:15I'd like to ask both Takenaga-san and the public about that too!
00:47:18Before the atomic bomb, there was a big improvement.
00:47:21If you look at the Meiji and Komei periods,
00:47:24the emperor's concubines get pregnant more and more,
00:47:28but they die more and more.
00:47:30There used to be a lot of people who gave birth to a lot of children and grew old one by one,
00:47:35but that's not the case now.
00:47:37The fact that there are no concubines is determined by the advances in medical technology.
00:47:40Now, in the 9th and 11th centuries,
00:47:42about half of the egg remains,
00:47:45and the baby boom occurs.
00:47:48Why did the Meiji and Komei periods occur?
00:47:50In the first place, the Meiji and Komei periods were abolished
00:47:53by the pressure of the Makkawa in the second half of the 19th century.
00:47:57At that time, one of the Meiji and Komei periods was the Meiji and Komei period of the old Takeda.
00:48:00At that time, my grandfather had a right of succession.
00:48:04It was only 70 years ago.
00:48:07There are people like that, so I think we can do something about it here.
00:48:12The returned nobles are not suddenly emperors.
00:48:15If a child is born, it is to contribute to a stable right of succession.
00:48:19So, rather than the person who was restored,
00:48:22the child is given the right of succession.
00:48:25That's right.
00:48:26Then the child is born as a noble.
00:48:29It is often said that it is impossible to come from a private family and do it well,
00:48:34but Emperor Michiko, who was a noble from a private family,
00:48:39is now a noble from a private family, but he has a proper role.
00:48:43So, if you say that you are not from a private family,
00:48:46you will deny everything.
00:48:49Mr. Nishida, what do you think?
00:48:51As a matter of fact, it has been a long time without any discussion.
00:48:56In the meantime, there is a big political influence.
00:49:03If you think about it,
00:49:05I think it is possible to choose a female emperor.
00:49:12Mr. Nomura, what do you think?
00:49:14I think there are many people who are confused about this concept.
00:49:18The female emperor is the child of the emperor,
00:49:23and she is the only daughter of the emperor.
00:49:26So, I think it is possible to choose a female emperor
00:49:30who is the only daughter of the emperor.
00:49:35The female emperor is the child of the female emperor,
00:49:42and she is the only daughter of the emperor.
00:49:45So, I think it is possible to choose a female emperor
00:49:49who is the only daughter of the emperor.
00:49:52I think Mr. Takeda's idea is very good.
00:49:57I think it is possible to choose a female emperor
00:50:00who is the only daughter of the emperor.
00:50:03I think it is possible to choose a female emperor
00:50:06who is the only daughter of the emperor.
00:50:09I think it is possible to choose a female emperor
00:50:12who is the only daughter of the emperor.
00:50:15I think it is possible to choose a female emperor
00:50:18who is the only daughter of the emperor.
00:50:21I think it is possible to choose a female emperor
00:50:24who is the only daughter of the emperor.
00:50:27I think it is possible to choose a female emperor
00:50:30who is the only daughter of the emperor.
00:50:33I think it is possible to choose a female emperor
00:50:36who is the only daughter of the emperor.
00:50:39I think it is possible to choose a female emperor
00:50:42who is the only daughter of the emperor.
00:50:45I think it is possible to choose a female emperor
00:50:48who is the only daughter of the emperor.
00:50:51I think it is possible to choose a female emperor
00:50:54who is the only daughter of the emperor.
00:50:57I think it is possible to choose a female emperor
00:51:00who is the only daughter of the emperor.
00:51:03I think it is possible to choose a female emperor
00:51:06who is the only daughter of the emperor.
00:51:09I think it is possible to choose a female emperor
00:51:12who is the only daughter of the emperor.
00:51:15I think it is possible to choose a female emperor
00:51:18who is the only daughter of the emperor.
00:51:21I think it is possible to choose a female emperor
00:51:24who is the only daughter of the emperor.
00:51:27I think it is possible to choose a female emperor
00:51:30who is the only daughter of the emperor.
00:51:33I think it is possible to choose a female emperor
00:51:36who is the only daughter of the emperor.
00:51:39I think it is possible to choose a female emperor
00:51:42who is the only daughter of the emperor.
00:51:45I had a baby last year.
00:51:48I was the only one on TV.
00:51:51I was the only one on TV.
00:51:54Did you interact with other people?
00:51:57Of course.
00:52:00The reason why I chose a female emperor
00:52:03is that the person who takes the position
00:52:06chooses the female emperor.
00:52:09The person who takes the position
00:52:12doesn't have to have
00:52:15a sufficient ratio of babies.
00:52:18The person who chooses the female emperor
00:52:21doesn't have to have
00:52:24sufficient ratio of babies.
00:52:27I want to raise my daughter with my son
00:52:30at some point in the future.
00:52:33I want to raise my daughter with my son
00:52:36at some point in the future.
00:52:39It's a tradition to continue this tradition.
00:52:42It's not limited to men, but I think it's okay to accept female Dankei as well.
00:52:47When we talked about this before, Mr. Takeda,
00:52:50if we accept this, I feel like we were discussed that
00:52:54when the child of the female emperor was born,
00:52:57everyone would say, somehow, that child too.
00:53:00That's right.
00:53:01That's what I'm talking about.
00:53:03As you said, Dankei is not an exception.
00:53:06However, there are examples of female Dankei emperors,
00:53:09so there are historical precedent.
00:53:11However, now, when the media and social media are so active,
00:53:14female Dankei emperors are okay.
00:53:17However, if the husband is a wonderful person that everyone respects,
00:53:21there are many more children who were born.
00:53:23Why is this child not allowed to be an emperor?
00:53:25In other words, there are men who have the right of succession
00:53:28and men who do not have the right of succession.
00:53:30This is like a crazy story.
00:53:3280% to 90% of the public opinion is crazy.
00:53:35I can't stop it.
00:53:36Mr. Furutachi.
00:53:37Mr. Aiko.
00:53:38I think the opinion can be divided
00:53:40by whether the husband is strong or not.
00:53:42Of course.
00:53:43However, I don't think it is necessary to keep the tradition of Dankei men.
00:53:49After all, no matter what kind of war there is,
00:53:52of course, there is JHQ,
00:53:54but the emperor became a symbol of the people,
00:53:56from Arahitogami.
00:53:58When that happened,
00:54:00why can't female emperors or female emperors become emperors?
00:54:05That's what I think.
00:54:06So, personally, I'm sorry,
00:54:08but I wish Mr. Aiko could become an emperor.
00:54:11I have no idea.
00:54:12About Mr. Aiko.
00:54:13There are so many opinions like this around me.
00:54:16That's why, now,
00:54:18which one is better?
00:54:20There are many people who say that Dankei men are better in this situation.
00:54:24There are many people who say that Dankei men are better in this situation.
00:54:27What do the people really think?
00:54:30Mr. Aiko is the emperor,
00:54:32and there are so many people who say that there is no need to stick to Dankei men from Mr. Aiko.
00:54:38Can I say one more thing?
00:54:40Mr. Aiko is a Dankei woman,
00:54:42so he is particular about Dankei men.
00:54:44Mr. Aiko is a Dankei woman,
00:54:46so he is not particular about Dankei men from female emperors,
00:54:50but he wants to make Mr. Aiko's children emperors.
00:54:53I want to know how many people say that it's okay.
00:54:56It's related to that.
00:54:58When I was in the Koizumi administration,
00:55:01there was a meeting about this issue,
00:55:04and I made a conclusion.
00:55:06I made a decision to allow female emperors.
00:55:10At that time, I was closely involved with Mr. Koizumi and interviewed him.
00:55:14I didn't say anything specifically about this,
00:55:17and neither did Secretary-General Iijima nor Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi.
00:55:21But as a nuance,
00:55:23Mr. Koizumi said that this was his intention to allow female emperors.
00:55:30It is necessary to confirm the intention of the people,
00:55:33but at that time, it was said that there was such an intention.
00:55:38What is the intention of the Koizumi administration?
00:55:42The intention is that the emperor will not make a political statement.
00:55:48In the office of Prime Minister Aso...
00:55:54As expected, he said yes or no.
00:55:59In this issue, it is sometimes said that the emperor's intention is like this.
00:56:03It's a story like that.
00:56:05Actually, this was said at the time of Prime Minister Aso,
00:56:09when the Koshienpan Seawater Discussion was going on at the Sui Benkai.
00:56:13Prime Minister Aso, who was in charge of the office, began to say.
00:56:18The emperor said that he thought it would be better to allow female emperors in the cage that Prime Minister Aso had built.
00:56:24Then, the members of the committee who were trying to make a statement said,
00:56:27Is this a false statement?
00:56:29Mr. Takeda, is this true?
00:56:31I couldn't help it,
00:56:33so I went to His Highness Mikasa no Miya and said,
00:56:37His Highness, it's a big deal.
00:56:39Then he said,
00:56:40That can't be true.
00:56:41I'll check it.
00:56:42Just in time, His Highness, Mikasa no Miya, was going to ascend to the throne in a few days.
00:56:47I told him to check it with His Highness.
00:56:50His Highness's answer was this.
00:56:52There has never been a story of a high-ranking official in the cage of Prime Minister Aso.
00:56:58As expected, he said yes or no.
00:57:01He just told me that the rumor was not true.
00:57:04Mr. Takeda, I'd like to ask you one more thing.
00:57:06When you asked Mikasa no Miya's father, he didn't say,
00:57:10Did he say father?
00:57:11Did he say it normally?
00:57:12Yes, he did.
00:57:13Isn't that a more polite word?
00:57:15It's a secret.
00:57:16When you say it to the outside world, you say,
00:57:18I think you have a father.
00:57:20It's a conversation between the two of us.
00:57:21It's a father, isn't it?
00:57:22He's pretty bad-mouthed.
00:57:24If it's not true, it's a lie.
00:57:26I'll ask my father to check it.
00:57:29That's how he talked.
00:57:31Thank you very much.
00:57:33Let's move on to the next topic.
00:57:36Will it be a new standard in Japan?
00:57:39I'm thinking about this, which is gradually increasing.
00:57:50Hey, Mr. Takeda.
00:57:52Is it true that three days a week will be introduced in Tokyo?
00:57:57Yes.
00:57:58Tokyo will introduce a system in which employees can choose three days a week from 2025.
00:58:05Some local governments and companies have already adopted it.
00:58:10According to a survey by the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare in 2023,
00:58:14More than 7.5% of companies have introduced more than three days a week.
00:58:19Why are you trying to increase your holidays so much?
00:58:23It is said that the background behind Tokyo's introduction of this system is the deterioration of competition for human resources with private companies.
00:58:31Tokyo is now...
00:58:34In addition to the weekend holidays, we are incorporating a flexible system that allows you to get a weekday holiday in four weeks.
00:58:42From 2025, if you secure a total of 155 hours of working time in four weeks,
00:58:48You can change to a system that allows you to get a weekday holiday.
00:58:53You can work about 10 hours a day on four days a week, making it possible to have three days a week.
00:59:00What does Mr. Koike say?
00:59:03Mr. Koike is...
00:59:06I don't have a weekday or a weekend, but...
00:59:10Rather, I want to make it a goal to make it easier for employees to work.
00:59:20That's Mr. Koike!
00:59:22By the way, when Mr. Mayu Yamaguchi was in his financial years,
00:59:26He said that 300 hours of overtime a month was a very black job.
00:59:33Did he say that?
00:59:35Yes, he did.
00:59:37But...
00:59:38Maybe...
00:59:39I'm sure...
00:59:43In Japan, where the word of working style reform has settled down,
00:59:48There are overwhelmingly many companies that incorporate a two-day holiday.
00:59:53This time, Tokyo will introduce a three-day holiday that allows you to increase your weekday holidays by one day if you want.
01:00:03This will make flexible operations more flexible.
01:00:06Employees will be assigned 155 hours of work in four weeks.
01:00:11This will make it possible to have a day off a week.
01:00:15For example, if you work 10 hours a day from Monday to Thursday, you can take a day off on Friday.
01:00:24In the local government, such as Ibaraki Prefecture and Chiba Prefecture,
01:00:28In addition to the introduction, test-driven introduction has begun in local prefectures.
01:00:34In addition, companies that have actively adopted advanced methods such as Fast Retailing, Zozo, and LINE Yahoo!
01:00:42The three-day operation has already begun.
01:00:46JR West Japan has also decided to introduce it from 2025.
01:00:52In the meantime, the aim of Tokyo is to introduce a three-day holiday every week.
01:00:57It is not only a competition to gain human resources that increases intensity, but also a child-rearing support measure.
01:01:03Employees with children up to the third grade of elementary school can delay their training hours or speed up their training hours.
01:01:10It also creates a system that allows you to take part-time leave for up to two hours a day, making it easier to raise children.
01:01:18By the way, according to a survey conducted in June last year,
01:01:24About two-thirds of the employees of the companies that have introduced the three-day operation are positive for the three-day operation.
01:01:32It is also pointed out that the negative aspects, such as the fact that you are resting and that you have lost contact with each office, have appeared in your business.
01:01:45So I have a question for you all.
01:01:47Do you agree or disagree with the three-day operation every week?
01:01:56I have a question for you all.
01:02:00I have received various opinions on whether to agree or disagree.
01:02:04About the VTR earlier, Yamaguchi-san.
01:02:06I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
01:02:08Can I just say one thing?
01:02:10Because you say that, you are hated by the HR department of the Ministry of Finance.
01:02:13The Ministry of Finance is a good office.
01:02:15I don't think you need to dismantle it.
01:02:17Everyone, please come in.
01:02:19I think the HR department of the Ministry of Finance will have a face.
01:02:22It's like a white case.
01:02:25I understand.
01:02:26I'm sorry, I'm sorry I got into a weird place.
01:02:28It's okay, it's okay.
01:02:29It's divided into three-day operation, agree or disagree.
01:02:33Kurata-san, is it possible in the first place?
01:02:36I'm sure you can do it in a big company.
01:02:41But in a small and medium-sized company that supports Japan.
01:02:44You know there's no room for that.
01:02:47And the public officials.
01:02:49I want the public officials to have their feet on this side.
01:02:53But I think there are two ways to do it.
01:02:57For the three-day operation every week,
01:02:59Like the 10-hour, 10-hour, 10-hour thing earlier,
01:03:02There's a way to not change the working hours and not change the pay.
01:03:05On the other hand, there's a way to cut the working hours and lower the pay.
01:03:10From what I've seen so far, there's a lot of this.
01:03:13There are people who can't change their pay.
01:03:15This is the minority.
01:03:17It's more of a share work.
01:03:19There's a place where you're doing it in a team cut.
01:03:21There's a lot of different ways to work.
01:03:22You can set it up as a paid job.
01:03:24But from the point of view of the workers,
01:03:26I think the pay is going to go down.
01:03:28So, like Nomura-san said, if you can get back to work.
01:03:31That's right.
01:03:32So, in the end, when you said three days a week,
01:03:37I'm sure there were a lot of people who thought it would only be four days in eight hours.
01:03:42As you can see in the VTR,
01:03:45It's based on the premise that 10 hours x 4 doesn't change 40 hours.
01:03:49It's a system design.
01:03:51It's also related to the labor standard.
01:03:53There's a possibility that you'll be able to work as much as you can.
01:03:55So, like Yamaguchi-san just said,
01:03:58If it's originally 8 hours x 4,
01:04:00That's going to reduce the amount of work.
01:04:02The company may reduce the salary a little bit.
01:04:06By demonstrating your ability for the amount of time you have a day,
01:04:10If you can get a salary that exceeds that,
01:04:13If you want to choose it, you can choose it.
01:04:16There's a possibility that the pay will go up.
01:04:18So, if the total pay goes up,
01:04:21I think it's a good idea to make more effective use of your working hours.
01:04:24I think there are a lot of companies that don't approve of returning to work.
01:04:27However, returning to work itself can be beneficial for the company.
01:04:31For your company,
01:04:33You can deliver a different kind of return.
01:04:36It's not something you can do on your own.
01:04:38There are a lot of returns that can be beneficial for the company.
01:04:41You can expand your reach.
01:04:43Returning to work tends to go down.
01:04:45Working 10 hours a day,
01:04:48I think there was a comment earlier that it leads to a reduction in salary.
01:04:51That's exactly right.
01:04:53It also leads to a shorter overtime.
01:04:56It's pretty tough.
01:04:58In Japan, it's called overtime.
01:05:01The working hours of regular employees are about 2,000 hours a year.
01:05:04It's always double.
01:05:06I think we should think about it.
01:05:08There's a standard working hour that works weekly.
01:05:11It's 40 to 30 hours.
01:05:13So that it doesn't lead to a reduction in salary.
01:05:15I think it's a good idea to subtract 4 out of 40.
01:05:18I think it's a good idea to do it together.
01:05:21It's like this in Germany.
01:05:23But there's a big minus to this.
01:05:25If a lot of people choose to work three days a week,
01:05:28There are people who take a day off on Mondays and Tuesdays.
01:05:31Then, for example,
01:05:33When you have to have a meeting with the same department or a different department,
01:05:36Oh, Mr. Daidai, you're off today.
01:05:38I'll be out tomorrow.
01:05:39I'm not coming tomorrow.
01:05:41It takes two or three days to get rid of it in one day.
01:05:45If it's three or four people,
01:05:47It's like the third week of next month.
01:05:49This will make the work efficiency worse.
01:05:52If the work efficiency drops, it will be difficult to raise the salary.
01:05:57So it's easy to take a day off and get a new job.
01:06:01But the efficiency is going to be really bad.
01:06:04And if there's one person taking a day off on weekdays,
01:06:08In this day and age, you can do it over the phone or over the chat.
01:06:12I feel like I'm not going to be able to take a day off because I'm getting a call.
01:06:197 days a week is Christian.
01:06:22We're religious, so...
01:06:24What's that?
01:06:25Don't you lose the concept of Saturday and Sunday?
01:06:30I'm sorry to break the story, but
01:06:33Isn't it too tied to the concept of 7 days a week?
01:06:37What do you mean?
01:06:38This is Christian, isn't it?
01:06:39There was no Sunday in the Edo period.
01:06:42It's a very rational way of working.
01:06:44What do you think that is?
01:06:46Work as you want to work.
01:06:48Take a day off when you're sick.
01:06:50It's actually the most efficient way.
01:06:53This is a 365-day open-air tablet.
01:06:56Women may have a day off when they are sick.
01:07:02It's different for each person.
01:07:03If you're working well, you can take a day off when you're sick.
01:07:07That's the best way.
01:07:09But, shouldn't it be 7 days a week?
01:07:10This is Christian, isn't it?
01:07:11We're religious, so...
01:07:13What's that?
01:07:14Don't you lose the concept of Saturday and Sunday?
01:07:17What was the time that changed in a week?
01:07:19There was nothing?
01:07:21I think it's more convenient to match it with the Meiji era.
01:07:24So what is the concept of Sunday off?
01:07:26I'm doing it every day.
01:07:28How about Mr. Ono?
01:07:29It's not like I've been doing it all the time.
01:07:30Are you the type to take a lot of days off?
01:07:31No, my job is fun.
01:07:34I make movies and plays.
01:07:36I'm doing what I like.
01:07:37Every day is a day off.
01:07:39Every day is like a job.
01:07:41It's not like that.
01:07:42It's happy.
01:07:43But now there's a story about small and medium-sized companies.
01:07:47In reality, it's not economically feasible.
01:07:52Big companies work three days a week.
01:07:56It's a story about doing this until the end of the week while they're off.
01:08:01So in the end, small and medium-sized companies get happy and get more and more jobs.
01:08:06It's especially true for people who are free.
01:08:08I'm sure you all know this because you're writers.
01:08:11Writers write this until the end of the year while they're off.
01:08:17We don't write it all the time.
01:08:20I'm sure you all know that.
01:08:21That's right.
01:08:22That's what happens in the end.
01:08:25When I think about the release date of Mr. Kurata, it's the end of the year.
01:08:28I've been writing it all the time.
01:08:30But that's how it is.
01:08:32That's how it is.
01:08:33It's very difficult.
01:08:35It's about overtime work that Mr. Nishida mentioned earlier.
01:08:38In Japan, you get paid for your overtime work.
01:08:42That's why it's called overtime work.
01:08:45It's very difficult.
01:08:47You have to pay for your overtime work based on productivity, not labor time.
01:08:53If you can do that, you'll be able to work three days a week.
01:08:59That's right.
01:09:00To do that, you have to stop membership employment and turn it into a job.
01:09:05I don't understand.
01:09:06What's a membership?
01:09:07It's a program where people are in it, but it's not clear who does what.
01:09:12It's a program that's not clear in the labor contract.
01:09:15It's like this program.
01:09:16It's a program like this.
01:09:17You can do it as you please.
01:09:18Don't treat Japanese employees like that.
01:09:23In the case of a job, it's decided by a contract what everyone does.
01:09:27If you do this program by contract, it's very difficult.
01:09:30It's like putting in a person who gets angry.
01:09:34I'll write it down.
01:09:37One day, I made a mistake and went to work on time.
01:09:40Then I was told I was an idiot.
01:09:46But there are people who work lazily.
01:09:50In the past, everyone was really lazy at university.
01:09:54Even when the class started, the teacher didn't come.
01:09:58Everyone was late for a while.
01:10:01It was natural.
01:10:03One day, I made a mistake and went to work on time.
01:10:06Then I was told I was an imperialist.
01:10:10It's the rule of the country that determines it.
01:10:15It's a time to think about working hours.
01:10:19But when it comes to university teachers,
01:10:22people who don't know what they're doing for 20 years suddenly make a big discovery.
01:10:28Especially at Kyoto University.
01:10:31Now, we have an important announcement from the program.
01:10:34The complete version of the interview with the military journalist Kazuhiko Inoue and the secretary-general of Nomura Meidai,
01:10:39which was broadcast the other day, will be broadcast on TVer after the program is over.
01:10:48In addition to the broadcast, the complete version of the video will be released for the first time.
01:10:55Please take a look.
01:11:00If you want to watch it again, please watch it from 6 p.m. today.