Myles Garrett officially requested a trade from the Browns, and one of us thinks the Commanders should go all in for the future Hall of Famer.
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00:00But let's get into the news of the day.
00:02We just told you, going into the end of the hour there, that Miles Garrett is available,
00:08at least trying to make himself available, I guess.
00:10He is demanding a trade.
00:12The Browns have not yet publicly responded, but it would seem to me, if I'm Cleveland,
00:19like I would grant this request.
00:22He wants out.
00:24You can get a ton back for him.
00:26You need draft picks anyway, because it's your best way forward with the money that
00:31you're locked into with a quarterback who's not going to be playing this year in Deshaun
00:35Watson.
00:36So you're already going to have to spend more money at that position to go find a starting
00:40veteran quarterback, probably.
00:42So trading Miles Garrett for a Browns team that is further away from winning right now
00:46than it's been over the last couple of years probably makes some sense.
00:51But here is the 33rd team's trade that they put together for Washington and Cleveland
00:58in like a who-says-no exercise, and I want to see what Danny Ruyeh says.
01:03So they've got Miles Garrett to Washington, who they say are the best fit for him, okay?
01:12What do the Commanders give the Browns?
01:15A first-round pick in 2025, which is the 29th overall pick, and a first-round pick
01:22in 2026.
01:24Could be another late pick if they make a deep run, probably closer to the middle of
01:28the first round next year, I would imagine, but two first-round picks in back-to-back
01:34years, this year and next year, would you do that for Miles Garrett?
01:40First thing I would offer, ultimately I would, by the way, but the first thing I would offer
01:43is I'd say, hey, it's not a total consolation, it's not one-for-one, but you can take this
01:47year's 29th overall pick.
01:49I got a couple D-tackles.
01:51I got a couple.
01:52You want one of those guys?
01:53You interested at all?
01:54One of them?
01:55Both of them?
01:56Are you interested in any of these other players here on the roster?
01:59There may not be a lot of interest, but maybe there's some, you know, I'll dangle that and
02:03see if you're interested in-
02:04Like a first, Duran Payne, and a third or something like that.
02:09That's my sweetener, right?
02:10Or something like that, if that's intriguing to you.
02:13Now, it probably isn't, because they need salary cap space in the worst possible way,
02:17so maybe they wouldn't want to take anybody on, but just thinking, I'll get you an alpha,
02:20I'll get you a leader, I'll get you somebody that can galvanize the locker room and also
02:24play pretty well, whether it's Allen, whether it's Payne, et cetera.
02:27I'll see if that, I'll run that at the flagpole.
02:29My bet you is it's a, no, we're not doing that.
02:33Then I would go to the picks and I'd say, that's just fine.
02:35That makes sense to me.
02:36Now, I know a lot of people will recoil, and I would bet that Peters and company wouldn't
02:40do that because of how paramount and tantamount to their philosophy building through the draft
02:45is.
02:46He's told you, he's turned over, as the magician, he's turned over how the trick's going to
02:50go.
02:51He's already told you.
02:52You think it's misdirection?
02:53Here's how I'm doing it.
02:54I'm going to do the trick this way.
02:55We're building through the draft.
02:56That's what we're doing, and that's what we're going to major in.
02:58But every GM says that, and that's all cool until you get punched in the face, and what
03:02I mean by that is-
03:03I think he lives it, though.
03:04Maybe I'm wrong.
03:05Well, sure, but did he live it when they traded for Trent Williams, when he was one of the
03:09top decision makers in San Francisco?
03:12Fair point.
03:13I mean, when one of the great players in the league and a future Hall of Famer's available,
03:17that's kind of the break classic case of emergency situation.
03:20Might be.
03:21I mean, and I'm looking at the- there's, I think I've seen from Cleveland, maybe somebody
03:26with a source, maybe it was an official statement, as you said, but we have no intention of trading
03:30Miles Garrett, which means, the translation there is, make us an absurd offer.
03:35We're not giving them away.
03:37This is not a fire sale.
03:38This is not a, you know, a looting situation.
03:40You got to come in here and give us- and blow our socks off, and then maybe we can talk
03:43about it.
03:44So, it's going to be an astronomical asking price, I think, for sure.
03:47Yeah, the two firsts when I saw that, I get it, but man, that's steep, and here's why,
03:52because I got to pay him too.
03:55We said this, it's a two-year deal remaining at a really affordable rate, which is why
04:00he wants a new contract.
04:02So you're talking about probably like a five-year deal, and I'm just making up numbers now,
04:08but at what, 30 or so million dollars a year, you'd have to look at the top of the defensive
04:12end AAV market, that you would then pay him and guarantee him 75, 80 million bucks as
04:18a massively high-paid defensive player, and you're giving up the picks, which is why two
04:24ones feels like a bridge too far for me.
04:28I like your idea of, will they take a defensive tackle?
04:32I think I would do a one and a two.
04:34I know I would do a one and a three.
04:36I don't think that's what it would cost, but again, part of the deal has to be, Danny,
04:41I'm telling the Browns, I'm paying the freight here, guys.
04:46You're getting flexibility.
04:48You're getting out of this deal.
04:51So yeah, I'm a first and a second is probably as far as I would go.
04:55I don't think I would do two ones, but think about how much of a game changer he would
05:00be here.
05:01I mean, it is exactly what we've talked about them needing.
05:05You could say this about any NFL team, obviously, because of how good Miles Garrett is.
05:09This is a special pass rusher.
05:11This is a sterling defensive player, but for Washington specifically, they are devoid of
05:20edge talent.
05:21We're all fighting over ourselves to see how much money we could pay Dante Fowler to hang
05:26around after his 10 and a half sack season.
05:29They don't have anybody who could stop the run.
05:31They don't have anybody who can rush the quarterback.
05:33If Fowler walks, they need at least one, probably two edges.
05:36If you go get him, you now have your best defensive player, the best player on your
05:41football team, not named, probably Jaden Daniels, if he can continue with this path, and I think
05:47it changes the eyeline of next season.
05:48You're now really good defensively, and you're a Super Bowl contender legitimately, whereas
05:54right now we're trying to figure out, was that real?
05:57Can they get back to the NFC championship game?
05:59If you could get a DPOY candidate, 16 sack a year guy potentially, with Dan Quinn dialing
06:05it up, with Joe Witt, a la what they were doing for Micah Parsons, I'm getting excited
06:10just thinking about it, sitting here on Radio Row.
06:13It changes everything.
06:15There was nobody else.
06:16When you played Cleveland, that was the guy at the top of the scouting report for that
06:19defense.
06:20That was the guy in the middle, and that was the guy probably at the end.
06:23Who was their second leading sacker, if that's even a turn of phrase?
06:27I guarantee you, in your car right now, listening on the Odyssey app nationwide, you have no
06:31idea.
06:32You have no clue that the guy at the end of their roster on the end of the season was
06:36Dalvin Tomlinson with three.
06:38I think Z'Darrius Smith moved after a handful of games, so he was their second leading tackler,
06:44the quarterback, with five, 22 tackles for a loss, top of the league in terms of quarterback
06:49hits.
06:50The impact this dude has, despite the fact that everybody knows that's who you have to
06:54limit, just lets you know the level here.
06:57It's not pretty good because of the situation.
06:59It's not, hey, this guy's a nice piece, good player in the right scheme.
07:03This is, wherever you drop him in, he is a havoc-wreaking, nasty SOB who is here to hit
07:09you behind the line of scrimmage and blow up your offense.
07:11He is a star, star.
07:14How risky is trading two ones for a ninth-year veteran who's going to be 30 years old?
07:21It's a thing, yeah.
07:22You know what I mean?
07:23It would feel a little bit, and I hate saying this because this is such an overplayed thing,
07:27but you know where I'm going here.
07:29Like old Redskins, Dan Snyder, Redskins 1 kind of deal, it would feel a little bit like
07:35that to me, where you're going to get the superstar, the easy folder press conference
07:40guy that's a future Hall of Famer.
07:42In this case, I think it's actually smart because talent is not a bad thing.
07:47Acquiring talent is a good thing.
07:48We think of it here as scary and ominous and worrisome.
07:5230 and ninth year, if I'm doing the two first round picks thing, I probably want a second
07:58contract guy.
07:59You know what I mean?
08:00I want the 26-year-old, 27-year-old in his prime.
08:05I would imagine he's got two or three excellent years left and four or five really good years
08:09left, which is okay.
08:10No harm, no foul there, but two firsts is just steep.
08:15It is steep, and here's how I think of it.
08:18In general, you and I have gotten to know each other so well over the years, 11 and
08:21counting.
08:23It depends on where you are.
08:25Like if I'm, for the sake of argument, the equivalent, if I'm the Washington Wizards
08:29right now, nope, I'm not giving up two ones for anything.
08:32There's no player that I'm doing that for, right?
08:35But if I'm here, where I now am a couple of pieces away, a couple of marquee blue chip
08:42superstar talent pieces away from being in a game where I can beat the Eagles in the
08:48NFC title game, now I do it.
08:50My eyeline changed.
08:51Normally, after the first year of a rebuild, I'd go, now let's be cautious, let's build
08:54a little bit more judiciously.
08:55I mean, I have some urgency to it, but giving away ones when I'm going to be picking 12,
09:0013, 14 for a couple of straight years and I got a nice young quarterback, I can use
09:03some of my cap space, I can be smart about it, you still have to be smart, but guys like
09:09this do not become available very often.
09:11And Cleveland's already saying he's not available necessarily through a couple of sources.
09:14I think he is if he's prying away for the right offer, because he's already expressed
09:18that this is, this is, you know, we're not doing this anymore.
09:20You mean Cleveland?
09:21So to me, this is one of those, it's so exceptional, it shouldn't be happening.
09:27You're part of the cool kids club now.
09:29You've got all the momentum, you've got the allocation of draft picks and maybe some talent
09:32to sprinkle in as a bit of seasoning.
09:34You got a scheme and a design where he can thrive.
09:36You've got a Super Bowl opportunity.
09:38How crazy is that to say, by the way, I'm going aggressive right here.
09:43But this is one of those hard calls where you don't want to, because everyone's going
09:46to be interested.
09:47If you win the auction over a Dallas, over a handful of other teams or whoever, just
09:51thinking of the teams that are in a favor, according to some of the odds, if you win
09:55the auction, win the bidding, it's going to be a pretty penny.
09:58And how far is too far?
10:00Well, here's the logic to, to your point, because this is significant.
10:04I think we have to discuss this angle.
10:07They are close now, whether or not you feel like this past season was authentic, is going
10:14to guide maybe how much urgency you think they should operate with this year.
10:19But the Josh Harris press conference today, when he's meeting with the media, he was asked
10:23a couple of different ways a couple of different times.
10:25Do you plan on being aggressive in free agency?
10:28Have you changed how expeditious, you know, how much you're trying to expedite this process
10:33in terms of spending and acquiring and adding because you're good, because you're ahead
10:38of schedule when they were a four win team a couple of years ago, it makes no sense
10:45to trade first round picks for miles Garrett in a rebuild.
10:49Are they rebuilding?
10:50Are we sure?
10:51It seems like they found North pretty quickly.
10:53If if you believe, as you listen to us right now today, that this team is NFC championship
11:00caliber good.
11:01And if the season started tomorrow that they could be right back in the hunt for a Super
11:05Bowl, then you should be advocating for and wanting this trade, because this is what
11:10Chris Jones is to the Chiefs, that defensive player that in big games is going to make
11:16the big play to put you over the top.
11:18I have a little more trepidation about whether or not they're that team this coming year
11:24with a tougher schedule, sophomore year, the quarterback.
11:28And that's where my reservations come from.
11:30But we talk to fans every single day.
11:32I mean, if Adam Peters legitimately thinks they're that good, if he thinks he's got a
11:37quarterback who's going to have them in the mix every year, then I would say this is a
11:42no brainer, because respectfully, at 29, the chances of you getting a player that has a
11:47career like miles Garrett are next to nothing.
11:50And it's easy to miss at the end of the first round, by the way, a lot easier than it is
11:53when you're picking number two, like they did last year.
11:56So I would have zero problem with them making this trade.
11:59I wouldn't do it because I'm just a little more conservative.
12:02But I'm also now groomed and developed here in D.C. with a team that's never been on the
12:06brink of anything meaningful.
12:08Let me ask you this.
12:09I'm going somewhere with it.
12:10If you replayed this season with this roster, what how many wins would they have, do you
12:15think?
12:16You mean like now I'm talking about next year with a different schedule and roster adjustments,
12:20this team this year, even the most cynical person would have them at what, nine or ten
12:25wins?
12:26Yes.
12:27I would say I would.
12:28I don't think 10 is cynical.
12:30I think I think 10 is reasonable because they won.
12:34They ended up winning 12.
12:35And one of those was a Hail Mary, for God's sake.
12:38I was going to say nine, but I'll say 10 wins.
12:41Yeah, I'll say 10.
12:42So and then you lose to the Lions probably or you could lose to the Bucs.
12:45Totally.
12:46And the point is, you're now past the threshold where it's even even if you're the most cynical,
12:53it was all luck.
12:54What wasn't that far down the line for luck?
12:58There's there's something special that's already here.
13:01You're now you move your from the first page of the binder, which is how to establish a
13:06culture, how to, you know, be a professional organization, how to have a training room,
13:10how to have a cafeteria, how to have linemen have their own meeting room.
13:14You've done all that stuff.
13:15You're now well beyond even the most optimistic expectation, given the fact that they maybe
13:20got lucky in a win or two and ended up with 12 wins.
13:23Maybe they should have had a lot.
13:24Maybe it should have been 10.
13:25I don't care.
13:26You're now in the forefront of along where these are the kind of moves you make as a
13:29playoff team.
13:31At worst, they're a playoff team.
13:33At best, they're a Super Bowl contender.
13:34So that to me, again, changes my island for what I'm willing to give up and be smart about.
13:39So you would give up two ones for Miles Garrett.
13:42I'd hate it, but I would do it.
13:43Oh, boy, look at DR.
13:45Yeah, I like it.
13:46They're Super Bowl.
13:47I like it.
13:48Go make a play.
13:49I'm going to say no to that.
13:51And I hate myself for it.
13:53But I'm just not there yet.
13:54I'm sorry.
13:55I'm embarrassed.
13:56I cannot join you yet in every year is going to be Super Bowl contention mode, but I totally
14:01get it.
14:03And I'm not that far away, by the way.
14:04I'm saying I'll do one in a two.
14:06And I'd love to do a one, a three and a player or two.
14:11But now I'm just making up trades that work better for me than the Browns.
14:14It'd be more convenient for me if you're able to move on and take one of the guys I'm not
14:17that excited about.
14:18Sadly, the Browns have to say yes to this, too.
14:20That's how we can get them for you.
14:23I don't know if we can actually actually.
14:24Right.
14:26He's home at this point.
14:27He's with the L.A. Rams.