Negotiations. Will PTI Attend Tomorrow's Meeting? Or Should Talks Be Considered Over? Ijaz ul-Haq
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00:00It seems that tomorrow at 11.45, you will go to the committee room.
00:04I think only you will go. The seats in front of you will be empty, right?
00:09We will go. There should be at least a consensus.
00:13And I hope that from tomorrow till 11.45 or 12.45, I don't know,
00:21I hope that they will have a better sense and they will also come there.
00:28They have already announced publicly that they are not coming, they are not coming tomorrow.
00:32Okay, no problem. Even if they don't come, we will meet each other and the Speaker will talk to them.
00:38We will tell our conversation to the Speaker.
00:41Then we will start an indirect discussion.
00:44We were sitting in front of each other, now we will start through the Speaker.
00:48That is, if they don't come tomorrow,
00:50which is possible, when I talk to you now, it is 100% because they have said it themselves.
00:54If they don't come tomorrow, will you also get up after having tea or whatever their answer is,
00:59will you submit it to the Speaker that we said that we will give a written answer on the 28th?
01:03Here, we can make a commission.
01:05Or here, we can't make a commission. Or whatever the answer is,
01:07will you give it or that's it, that's it?
01:10No, we will give the answer then.
01:12Look, they will not come tomorrow or the day after in the discussions.
01:16After all, they have to come here.
01:17Whether they come after a week or after a month.
01:20If they don't come, we will get the answer at that time.
01:23If they don't come, then you won't even submit the answer to the Speaker.
01:26If they don't come, then it's over.
01:28Because on Friday night, they called off.
01:31On Friday, we had our final meeting,
01:33in which we prepared the answer and discussed it.
01:37And government, meaning government,
01:38I mean, after discussing with the Prime Minister and other people of the Cabinet,
01:44on Monday, after correcting his point of view,
01:48we had to submit the answer on Tuesday.
01:53And a very good kind of answer was being prepared.
01:57But then, after Friday night, we didn't have a meeting.
02:00Because they said, these PTA people are completely non-sensitive,
02:03they don't even want to talk.
02:07So, because of this, the matters were delayed, I think.
02:12It didn't end, it was delayed.
02:13So, are you sure that the process of negotiations will start again?
02:17Absolutely, 100 percent, God willing.
02:20If it doesn't happen now, then it will happen after a while.
02:23In the meantime, I will request the Speaker tomorrow
02:27to arrange a meeting with him after tomorrow.
02:32So that he can come back with satisfaction.
02:35You are saying that we will start an indirect negotiation through the Speaker.
02:38Meaning, you will tell the Speaker, the Speaker will tell him,
02:40and then the negotiations will be conducted through the Speaker's office.
02:44Yes, you will be there indirectly for a few days.
02:46The Speaker will convince him, as he has tried to contact everyone.
02:52And invite everyone.
02:54The Speaker's office was sending messages to everyone individually,
02:59that you should come to the meeting.
03:01So, if he doesn't come, then I will suggest tomorrow
03:04that the Speaker should call everyone,
03:06sit with them in his chamber, convince them.
03:10And if there is a hindrance that they cannot meet,
03:15then we will arrange for that meeting, God willing.
03:19Of course, you are friends with each other, and you should be,
03:22even if it is a political opposition.
03:24So, you must have spoken to the committee of the PTI.
03:26What do you say, off the record?
03:28No, why not? What kind of opposition is this?
03:31No one has occupied each other's land.
03:34Everyone faces political opposition.
03:37If you are in opposition, then it is a must.
03:40So, what sense have you got from the PTI,
03:44from the members of the Negotiating Committee,
03:45that they are also convinced that the negotiations are over?
03:48Sometimes, a person does not want anything,
03:50but if the boss says, if the leader says,
03:51then it is clear that he does not want to go against the leader.
03:53The person says, okay, so this is the case with the PTI people,
03:56that Mr. Khan has given the order.
03:58Believe me, it was an unauthorized committee.
04:02They do not have the courage to go and tell Mr. Khan
04:06that we are doing this for your betterment.
04:08I am saying this with great regret,
04:11and I am saddened to say this,
04:13that everyone was willing to do this,
04:16especially the Chief Minister,
04:19Asad Qaisar Sahib, Salman Akram Raja.
04:24When did they want to find a way through the book of proofs?
04:28And now, if you ask them, they will still say the same thing.
04:31But then the statement came from Adiala and everyone was compelled.
04:35It is a matter of course, the control is there.
04:38Now, this is amazing.
04:39We were sitting in the coalition and giving our opinions.
04:45We did not even object to many things in our government committee.
04:52It should not be like this.
04:53They listened to us.
04:56You say their control is in Adiala and the negotiations have been delayed from there.
04:59They say your control is in Pindi and the negotiations have been delayed from there.
05:04No, our control is in Rishai.
05:07When the control pressed the remote, the meeting was being held.
05:14They say the one who pressed the remote pressed it again,
05:17so the meeting has been paused.
05:18Okay, if they want to have a backdoor meeting,
05:21then we will have a backdoor meeting.
05:24Let me tell you, I just spoke to Mr. Raukwasan.
05:26Mr. Raukwasan's words are in our program.
05:28He said, we already knew that he did not have anything in his hands.
05:31And those who have it, we have the opportunity to talk to them.
05:34We will talk to them there.
05:35This is the summary of what he said.
05:37No, no, wherever they will talk, it will be here in the end.
05:42I am not saying that they will not talk there.
05:43I am saying that wherever they will talk,
05:46whether they will do it in secret or in front of us or behind the curtain,
05:53the final decision will be made here.
05:56It will be made in this committee.
05:58The last thing, they also say that it was decided
06:04that the Iraqis will not fire on each other in the negotiation committee.
06:07But you see what Mr. Rana Sinha and Mr. Irfan Siddiqui did in the press conference.
06:10And they tried to arrest Mr. Hamid Raza.
06:12These are the two reasons.
06:13Are these two reasons reasonable?
06:15Are you saying the right thing?
06:16No, absolutely.
06:17Even I say that it is reasonable.
06:19But when they said that there are four things,
06:21they also said that we should fire a little friendly.
06:24Even if they fired a friendly fire,
06:26they also showed seriousness.
06:28Okay.
06:29They have also said, we have also said,
06:30other members of the negotiation committee have also said,
06:34that you come, we will sit and talk to you.
06:37That was a friendly fire.
06:41They had given four sheets,
06:43they had to give an answer to that.
06:44Instead of waiting, they gave it quickly.
06:47So, in response to the friendly fire,
06:49they themselves made a blast,
06:50in which they themselves went and the negotiations also went.
06:52Everything is over.
06:53No, no, it was not because of that.
06:57It was such a conversation.
06:58After that, the conversation went on very well.
07:02Okay.
07:03And we tried.
07:05But see, the demand is such that first do this,
07:08then we will do this.
07:09This is not possible.
07:10Okay, okay.
07:11You come and sit there.
07:12It is possible that we make a mistake.
07:14Tell us.
07:15Your thing is wrong, we will tell you.
07:17Then we will find a middle way.
07:19Sir, thank you very much.