Love and War Episode 5
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00:07Oh, she's back.
00:08Nice to see you, Jocelyn.
00:09Yes.
00:10I know I don't like you either.
00:11I'm glad you're okay, though.
00:12I heard about what happened.
00:13Yeah, I'm glad you got makeup over that eye.
00:14You mean a lot of me, though.
00:15I know.
00:16I know.
00:17But I choose to stay in my natural look.
00:18You're not natural.
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02:25How long you guys been together?
02:2610 years.
02:2710 years?
02:28Yeah, we've been together for 10 years.
02:29Y'all don't even look...
02:30How old are y'all?
02:31I'm 22, he's 23.
02:32We met when we were kids.
02:33So y'all started working at 12?
02:34No, but we were like, we liked each other, and we like became boyfriend and girlfriend,
02:35and obviously that came down the line when we were old enough to do that.
02:36Okay.
02:37Yeah.
02:38No, I respect myself, and obviously he respects me.
02:39I didn't say you don't, but I was just like, damn, that's kind of 10 years.
02:40You know, you have crushes in school.
02:41Yeah, I know.
02:42I know.
02:43I know.
02:44I know.
02:45I know.
02:46I know.
02:47I know.
02:48I know.
02:49That was my crush.
02:50So you met in the what, seventh, eighth grade?
02:51Yeah.
02:52Same school?
02:53Yeah.
02:54Same neighborhood?
02:55Mm-hmm.
02:56And y'all just been thick as thieves since?
02:57Yeah.
02:58Okay, all right.
02:59So we had a one-on-one with Tasha K, and I think it went pretty well.
03:00Name three things, Crystal, that you would like to see B.B. change while being in the
03:01house.
03:02Sweet.
03:03First of all, I would like B.B. to change.
03:04I would like B.B. to change.
03:05I would like B.B. to change.
03:06I would like B.B. to change.
03:07I would like B.B. to change.
03:08I would like B.B. to change.
03:09I would like B.B. to change.
03:10I think it went pretty well.
03:20Um, number one, to listen a little bit more.
03:24Okay.
03:25Um, number two, to lay off a little bit on the liquor.
03:31Okay.
03:32Um, number three, to be, I want to, like, he's very, like, he has social anxiety, so
03:40I want to see him be more outgoing, too.
03:42Could it be his personality?
03:44Yeah, it is.
03:45No, no, no, it's not, I'm very, I just got to guard up sometimes, you know what I'm saying?
03:49I'm very social, but, like, you know what I'm saying?
03:52Okay.
03:53Like, I'm cool.
03:55So how do you feel about her saying that you drink too much?
03:58Well, I don't feel like I drink too much.
04:00You don't think you drink a lot?
04:02It seems like the way she's saying it is like I'm an alcoholic, I'm not, like.
04:06How many drinks a day does Baby have?
04:09No, it's just he's lightweight, that's the thing.
04:11It's not about how many drinks, it's like he's a little bit lightweight and he does
04:15drink.
04:16So what's lightweight?
04:18Like, he drinks like a tall can or two and it's like he's already.
04:21Two beers?
04:22No, I'm not an alcoholic, man.
04:24Next.
04:25Come on, man.
04:28You're laughing.
04:29No, I'm just, it's because it's funny.
04:32But these are serious concerns.
04:33I do drink, but, like, it's not like I'm.
04:36What you drinking now?
04:38It's so Hennessy.
04:43Why the fuck you do this to me?
04:45I'm a motherfucking alcoholic, man.
04:48I guess.
04:49I guess.
04:50How many drinks have you had today?
04:53A few.
04:54I had a few drinks.
04:55It's like three o'clock right now, four?
04:58Okay.
04:59And so what about his, what about Baby's mood changes that, like, concerns you?
05:03Like, I know you said moody, but, like, how moody are you talking?
05:07Oh, no, he just be like, when he's drunk, he just be, um, just be, like, catching a
05:13little bit of attitude and, you know, just a little bit of attitude.
05:17Nothing too serious.
05:18No, no, no.
05:19Just, like, attitude.
05:20Like, oh, I want to be left alone.
05:22I want to, you know, chill by myself.
05:24You know?
05:25He just be wanting to be in his own world.
05:26That hurts you?
05:27Uh, it does hurt my feelings a little bit.
05:29Like, you know, just a little bit.
05:31It's nothing, like, serious, but.
05:33That is very serious.
05:35I'm not, and here's the thing.
05:37I'm not here to, but you're getting irritated.
05:39I get it.
05:40Like, she's never told me that, you know what I'm saying?
05:42So, I never knew she felt that way.
05:44Have you ever, you've never told him?
05:46Not really, because it's not, like, nothing, like, like, it's nothing, like, bad, bad,
05:52but it does, like, sometimes get.
05:54It hurts her feelings a bit, you know?
05:56What are three things that you would like to see Crystal change?
05:59For her to stay off the phone all the time, you know what I'm saying?
06:02What do you mean on the phone?
06:03Talking to people also?
06:04No, it's just.
06:05Like, TikTok and stuff?
06:06And she be getting attitude, too.
06:07So, I don't understand.
06:08I do, I do.
06:09Okay.
06:10We both do.
06:11To understand that I need to be making money, you know what I'm saying?
06:15What you mean?
06:16Like, I make money so we can eat, you know what I mean?
06:20And she is like, oh, like, to me.
06:24Like, let's go on a date or something.
06:26I understand that, you know what I'm saying?
06:27Okay.
06:28Like, have a date for us, basically.
06:30Okay.
06:31And I try my hardest to do that, you know what I'm saying?
06:33I give her everything she wants, you know what I mean?
06:36But, she's right.
06:37Maybe I do need to give her a little more time.
06:39I'm always out making money, you know.
06:41Like, it's just.
06:42I don't know.
06:43What do you do for a living?
06:44I make money.
06:45Okay.
06:46So, you feel like you guys need a little bit more personal time?
06:52Yeah.
06:53I feel like this show is the most personal time we've got.
06:57Oh, wow.
06:58Damn.
06:59Damn.
07:00You see?
07:01I'm being honest.
07:03I mean, that's what we're here for, you know?
07:06Because you guys.
07:07People tend to get comfortable in relationships.
07:09I've been married almost 20 years, you know?
07:11We got two kids together.
07:13Yeah, you were.
07:14You know, you can't just be.
07:16It can't be like Groundhog's Day every day.
07:18Right.
07:19And you guys both have to try.
07:21I'll give an example.
07:22My husband and I, when we first met, and we still do it now.
07:26Mondays is our day.
07:27No matter what we're doing, we go out every Monday.
07:30I like that.
07:31You know?
07:32Yeah, I like that.
07:33You have to, as couples, because life's.
07:36Right.
07:37Right?
07:38Because I'm a college kid, and, of course, you've got to make money.
07:40So you're going to school?
07:41Yeah.
07:42What are you going to school for?
07:43I'm going to be an FBI agent.
07:44Oh, well, damn.
07:46And you make money.
07:47Yeah.
07:48Who's going to see how that work out, okay?
07:50She's going to get me out of trouble.
07:52We're going to lose.
07:55I think I really like the advice she gave, that her and her husband have one-on-ones on Mondays.
08:00And literally have one day full for them every week.
08:03And I really think that's a great idea.
08:05And I think we should start doing that as well.
08:07Keep your head on a swivel, B.B., okay?
08:10Because what she's telling you is what women tell men all the time.
08:14And then when you don't listen, it's not like we go out seeking it.
08:18But if she finds herself in a conversation with a man and he's feeding that need, it's like when you're hungry.
08:25Well, if somebody tries it and it helps, then it's going to be a problem.
08:29That's it.
08:30When is marriage going to come?
08:34Soon.
08:35How soon?
08:37I'm trying to get it straight first, like I said.
08:40And then soon.
08:42Soon, soon, soon.
08:44Okay.
08:45You trust him?
08:46Yeah.
08:47I mean, he's been here with me.
08:49Do you trust him?
08:50I do.
08:52You know, we've always had each other all our life, literally.
08:55Like we was homeless together.
08:56Like we came up together.
08:58You know what I'm saying?
08:59So, like, it's hard to break that.
09:03You know what I mean?
09:05Okay.
09:06Thank y'all.
09:08I hope that you get a lot out of this experience being here, okay?
09:12And just try.
09:13Tonight I'm not going to drink.
09:14It's just going to be me and you.
09:16And vice versa, okay?
09:18Come on.
09:19Okay?
09:20Bye.
09:21Bye.
09:23Nice to meet you.
09:24No problem.
09:25Nice to meet you.
09:26Crystal opened up to things that I didn't even know about.
09:27And I'm glad that I got to hear that.
09:28What's your tea?
09:29Okay.
09:30No.
09:31No.
09:32So, let me tell you something.
09:33I don't know.
09:34You don't even go with these guys around.
09:35Yeah.
09:36You don't like her.
09:37Me and this guy is together.
09:38Do you like her?
09:39No.
09:40No.
09:41No.
09:42No.
09:43No.
09:44No.
09:45No.
09:46No.
09:47No.
09:48No.
09:49No.
09:50No.
09:51Do you like her?
09:52Okay.
09:53So, I actually had eaten her hamouli and I was just gagging.
09:55Well, tell us how to do it.
09:57Because that's how me and him.
09:58We best be.
09:59I'm just saying.
10:00I don't know.
10:01I'm trying to figure it out.
10:03Joyce involved herself and said whatever she said.
10:07And that caused this guy to say something back to her.
10:10And that fell over into the next morning.
10:13I'm confused.
10:14I'm confused.
10:15Because why Miss Rose had eyes on me?
10:19I'm real mad about it and it's shocking to me.
10:21Like, I'm confused, you know what I'm saying?
10:23It's more weird, it's more, you know me, you're a fool.
10:26So like, it's just like,
10:28what I did, but why she's trying to come out.
10:30Y'all both gotta have a common respect for each other
10:32because Cassie's my brother and you're Cassie's date
10:35and that's my friend and we're all here together.
10:39You know what I'm saying?
10:40So she shouldn't just be starting like,
10:43no, she came out the room talking about all this.
10:44I'm like, yeah, somebody wants you.
10:46She said somebody wants you.
10:47So I'm like, so who want me then?
10:49The messiest in the house is definitely D. Scott, 110%.
10:54He can't stop himself from being messy.
10:56If he tried, he's the messiest in the house.
10:59Out of respect for my lover, I apologized to Joyce,
11:01but me apologizing wasn't enough.
11:03And Joyce proceeded to tell me,
11:05tell security to get this little bitch out of my room.
11:08So I felt like, you know, well, I apologize.
11:10So what more do you want from me?
11:12So me, I threw my drink in her face
11:14and told her to shut the fuck up.
11:15I'm like, what happened?
11:17Joyce was looking at her.
11:19She's like, hey, I was having a drink.
11:20What the fuck?
11:21And I need a refill.
11:23Thank you, baby.
11:24What?
11:25Bitch, you called me a little bitch.
11:27Bitch, you got me fucked up.
11:28Man, it feels good out here.
11:29You're doing the wrong shit.
11:30That's what it is.
11:31You're going to go to a party.
11:32And I don't agree with shit like this.
11:33Why are you making him apologize?
11:34Because he's wrong?
11:35No.
11:36He had no business going out, walking out.
11:37She tried to bite him.
11:38She caught him out.
11:39He walked out.
11:40He walked out.
11:41He walked out.
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12:13He walked out.
12:15I'm a messenger.
12:16Don't shoot the messenger.
12:17He's so messy.
12:18Becca, don't even do that.
12:19I love him.
12:20I love him.
12:21You heard her calling me a little bitch and all that.
12:22No, when you walked out the door.
12:23He said, come get this little bitch out of my room.
12:24Yes, she did.
12:25I wasn't there.
12:26You bitch.
12:27You walked out the door.
12:28Shut up.
12:29You walked out the room.
12:30That's flash, though.
12:31And talking about some hey ho.
12:32I did not say that.
12:33No, she did.
12:34I did not say that.
12:35Damn it.
12:36I said, the people around here are saying they're going to beat your ass.
12:37Okay, you didn't have to say that, though.
12:38So watch your back.
12:39You didn't have to say that.
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13:45You didn't have to say that.
13:46You didn't have to say that.
13:47OK.
13:48But I think you may have to throw in a little piece of shit.
13:49He's going to apologize.
13:50Hey, like I said, I'll apologize.
13:51Cash, you already got first got in here.
13:54You don't think I should.
13:55No.
13:56Yes, you are.
13:57No.
13:58Get up.
13:59Get up.
14:00Cash, get up.
14:05He splashed his drink, and I threw mine right back at him.
14:07And for some reason, he hit me.
14:10Y'all dumb and sput.
14:11Right.
14:12Y'all really stupid sput.
14:13Because y'all is out there, and y'all really want to do nothing.
14:17Girl, these guys can't get the fuck up, man.
14:20I'm like, y'all not that fucking stupid.
14:23Girl, change your clothes.
14:25We gonna pop her off while I'm going home.
14:33The fuck? That shit is annoying. I'm gone.
14:35Y'all listen.
14:36Y'all keep saying stop, but these niggas...
14:38Ivory, Ivory.
14:39You're up next, so just kill.
14:41I just told them to stop letting him do weird shit,
14:43and they just walk this nigga back here
14:45and let him fire on him while he's sitting down.
14:47Who did what?
14:48Security just walked motherfucking big-ass Patsy back there, nigga,
14:51and just let him fire on D. Scott.
14:56No.
14:57Boy, get the fuck out of my face before I slap you.
15:01Where are you going?
15:02Fuck that shit.
15:03He's in this room right here.
15:04Okay, Tom, come on.
15:05D. Scott thought he was Popeye's or something.
15:07He drunk the arm piece and motherfucking thought
15:09he was getting big and bald.
15:12Come on, let's get out of here.
15:13Come on.
15:14Come on.
15:36I'm good. I'm good.
15:37I'm good.
15:38Let me go back there.
15:40Come on.
15:51Shut the door. Cut the cameras.
16:01I'm not into that.
16:02Yes, I'm not.
16:03You know I'm not into that.
16:04Come on.
16:05I'm not doing all that.
16:06Okay.
16:07I'll just try to have a conversation with him.
16:08I already had that.
16:10All righty then.
16:11You're sweating.
16:12What the hell happened?
16:14Nothing.
16:15A little bit of this, a little bit of that.
16:17Where D?
16:18Right here.
16:19Have a seat.
16:22Is y'all getting catchy?
16:24Can you sit right here?
16:25Yeah, sit right here.
16:26You don't want to sit by her?
16:27Can we mix up the pillows a little bit?
16:29You just said the sheets is on the floor.
16:32You fucked with him.
16:33I didn't, man.
16:34He just showed me his true colors.
16:35And in ten minutes?
16:36In ten minutes.
16:37What happened?
16:38Because you guys were just,
16:39the one-on-one seems like it looked great.
16:41You guys were on the same page.
16:43And y'all were just fighting.
16:45I wasn't fighting.
16:46He was fighting.
16:47So.
16:48What happened?
16:49Let me just, let me just throw this out there.
16:51We had a, we had a long talk before.
16:53I mean, we had a talk before we came in and right or wrong.
16:55That he knows my aesthetic.
16:56He knows the type of nigga that I am.
16:58I'm never going to let nobody do anything to him or disrespect him.
17:01What he chose to do outside,
17:03he walked out of,
17:04he walked out of this room,
17:05correct me if I'm wrong,
17:06he walked out of this room and said,
17:07I want to be messy.
17:08He walked past that girl and said,
17:10whatever you felt like you needed to say to her in that moment,
17:12which caused.
17:13I don't know what we're talking about.
17:14You talking about Joyce?
17:15I mean.
17:16Yeah, no, but they're,
17:17they're going to apologize to you, Jack.
17:18Okay.
17:19Let me move on.
17:20Yes, he's cool.
17:21Okay, because I really,
17:22I was not,
17:23that wasn't intentional.
17:24I wasn't trying to hit you.
17:25It was a reflex, no shade,
17:26because you had stood up when you had threw the drink.
17:28So it was like,
17:29I didn't know if you was going to hit me or what.
17:30So I,
17:31it was a reflex.
17:32So I didn't really want to hit you.
17:33Um,
17:34I never had no intentions on fighting you.
17:35And I didn't even want to get into it with you.
17:37When you had did what you did with Joseline.
17:38I told you I was going to apologize.
17:39Yeah, you did.
17:40And I appreciated that you saying that you were going to apologize,
17:42but no shade.
17:43I felt like it was only fair that you allowed her to do the same thing
17:45that you did to her.
17:46So you,
17:47but you did it and then you punched me.
18:00Well, no,
18:01I said I was finna do it and you beat me to the punch.
18:03And we kind of threw it together.
18:04Right.
18:05So when you stood up,
18:06when you threw it,
18:07it was,
18:08no,
18:09but you stood up.
18:10Like,
18:11so I didn't know if you was going to hit me or what.
18:12While you threw a drink at my face.
18:13You threw one at mine and I sat there.
18:14Okay,
18:15but like she,
18:16you could have let her do that herself.
18:17What made you feel like you didn't?
18:18I mean,
18:19you told me you wasn't going to allow her to do that.
18:20I did tell you she could come up.
18:21I apologized to her.
18:22No,
18:23when I say,
18:24I said,
18:25you should let her throw a drink on you.
18:26Y'all said,
18:27no,
18:28she's not.
18:29I don't think that was crazy.
18:30I don't think that was crazy.
18:31I don't think that's crazy.
18:32The apology would have did it.
18:33I didn't know that you was going to come out there and do that.
18:34I told you,
18:35y'all could have talked about it.
18:36And yes,
18:37you was wrong for what you still went and said to her
18:38and what you did to her.
18:39Still,
18:40that was wrong.
18:41All I did was pass the message.
18:42What made you go and say something like that?
18:44I just passed the message.
18:45She snuck,
18:46you know,
18:47a few hours earlier.
18:48But don't be messing with her.
18:49And don't say she,
18:50then she,
18:51you was trying to get in trouble with her last night too.
18:52I wasn't trying to get in trouble for what?
18:53I never.
18:54When I was talking to Maura,
18:55you was,
18:56you was trying to get in trouble for what?
18:57Because she was talking shit,
18:58calling me out because she felt like she was with you.
18:59The moral of the story is this.
19:00Don't,
19:01I'm,
19:02it's because it's being said like I didn't help or I'm not doing anything.
19:03Let's be very clear.
19:04Cashy is my friend of two years.
19:05Let's not throw that out the window.
19:06I'm not getting ready to just jump up and fight this man on camera.
19:07My,
19:08this is my,
19:09this is my real life friend.
19:10If I was to get into something today and tomorrow,
19:11and I was down on my ass,
19:12I could call him the same way he could call me.
19:13And he would do whatever for me.
19:14I need him to do.
19:15And vice versa.
19:16I'm not getting ready to get on camera.
19:18And that's for nobody.
19:19I'm not going to get on camera and just fight my friend.
19:20So it was just that simple.
19:21How do you feel about him?
19:22We'll make this,
19:23we'll make you think that you could call him and call me.
19:24And I wouldn't be there.
19:25I didn't.
19:26That's not what I'm saying.
19:27What you're telling me is you,
19:28I'm going to show you a prime example.
19:29I'm going to show you a prime example.
19:30The same way,
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25:09Well there's something I want you to know,
25:11because I know there's a misconception online,
25:12and it has a lot to do with the branding,
25:13and I get it, right.
25:14But I want to tell you that my,
25:15my mentor is a trans woman,
25:15okay,
25:17real talk.
25:18And I just called,
25:19calls herself,
25:20he she we.
25:21But,
25:22it's Flaman Roe.
25:23Uh huh.
25:24How do you feel about Flam?
25:25I don't
25:26really
25:27get into all that.
25:28Okay.
25:29Like the politics of it all and stuff?
25:30I just believe in
25:31he
25:32and she.
25:33Okay.
25:34Well, I guess her brand is, because here's the thing with her.
25:42Her kids call her dad, right?
25:44Even though she's been living as a trans woman pretty much her whole life, you know?
25:51And these are her biological kids.
25:53And so for us, we're really, really friends.
25:56We're close.
25:58And I just don't want you to think that I have anything against you, because I'm going
26:05to be honest with you.
26:06During that first season, when I watched you on Deja Vu, and they asked me to come on,
26:10I felt like people were ganging up on you.
26:15Even though you're great TV, right?
26:18And you're there to bring the drama, right?
26:20This is a show.
26:21Ain't nobody going to want to watch people just sitting around talking and shit.
26:24So you get it popping.
26:25But I did feel like they kind of took it overboard with you.
26:29And I felt like because they felt that you were an easy target is the reason why everybody
26:36just kind of combatted you, right?
26:39And so I wanted to talk to you about a lot of those things, but we got off on the wrong
26:43foot.
26:44Because when I walked in, I personally don't believe that trans women should fight women,
26:50because the reality is I can't beat you.
26:53Okay, but so do you believe that women should hit trans women?
26:55No, I do not.
26:56Okay, so in that case, what do you expect me to do?
27:02I get it.
27:03And so I'm here, because I'm not a fighter.
27:06I don't pretend to fight, right?
27:08But I'm here to really ask tough questions.
27:10We can kill each other with our words.
27:11Exactly.
27:12We don't have to use hands.
27:13Exactly.
27:14But that's what these bitches don't understand.
27:16I kill them with my words.
27:18Okay.
27:19So here's the thing.
27:20I want you to know that I truly do not have anything against you.
27:24I think you're a beautiful trans woman, seriously.
27:28I'm a woman first, trans second, so you don't have to put that label on me.
27:32I'm not wearing trans on my forehead, because you're a beautiful woman, and that's that.
27:38Well, see, Jocelyn, okay, so here's the thing.
27:40You want me to respect your pronouns and what you go by, right?
27:44I just don't feel like you have to put trans in front of everything.
27:48I get it.
27:49I get it.
27:50But here's where we, and I don't want it to be ... I think sometimes with any community
27:55or with any group, right, we all want to be respected as such, whatever it is that we
28:01are.
28:02I do feel that it's not reciprocated a lot.
28:05How not?
28:07Because as a biological woman, for me to acknowledge you as a full woman, that's you not respecting
28:16my truth and my reality.
28:18What are you saying?
28:19I'm confused.
28:20Right.
28:21When have I ever ... If you're putting trans in front of it, that doesn't have to do with
28:27anything.
28:28No shade.
28:29At the end of the day, trans woman, woman, it's still all in the same category.
28:32It's not.
28:33It is.
28:34Yes, it is.
28:35It's not.
28:36Okay.
28:37Well, anyway, I just don't ...
28:38But as ... Here's the thing.
28:39I just don't wear trans on my forehead, so when you refer to me, she's pretty.
28:40She's a pretty girl, pretty woman.
28:41You're pretty because it's supposed to be.
28:42But you don't have to put trans woman on top of that, because that means you're putting
28:50me in a ... You're confining me in this one area.
28:55So you feel that you're a woman?
28:57That's what I said, right?
29:01Okay, so I can respect that you feel that way, but me as a person, as long as I respect
29:07you and I address you as the pronouns that you are, I call you her, I say she, I call
29:14you by your name.
29:15Yeah, I don't have no ... I can respect what you're saying and stuff like that, but that's
29:21just not how I work around people and myself.
29:24Okay.
29:25And I can respect that too?
29:26As long as I feel like it's a common respect here, then we shouldn't be getting into it.
29:32Right.
29:33However, I'm here to ask tough questions now.
29:35Okay, but once you start pulling, once you start hitting below the belt and stuff, calling
29:40me names, that's when we get into it.
29:43When did I call you a name?
29:44You didn't call me a name today, but I feel like the last hour, last interaction-
29:49I didn't call you a name.
29:50I watched the footage.
29:51You was calling all the trans girls niggas and stuff.
29:55Here's the thing.
29:56As a woman, I am humbly coming to you, telling you, and I don't feel that women should be
30:02fighting men at all, because once you put your hands on someone, all else goes out the
30:07door.
30:08So as a woman, I hold them just as accountable as I hold the person that they're fighting,
30:14if they're reciprocating.
30:16And I feel, personally, that you, as a trans woman, and you are identified as a woman,
30:25should only fight people that you are equal to.
30:29I'm sorry.
30:30I wasn't raised like that.
30:31If a bitch hit me, she's going to get hit back, and I'm not saying that.
30:36You're not going to make me feel bad about that.
30:37Do you honestly like fighting, though?
30:39I don't like fighting, no shade.
30:40I'm not a fighter, but if a bitch hit me, she's getting hit back.
30:44I'm not sitting here and taking it out, I'm sorry.
30:46I don't know what type of world y'all live in, where y'all think y'all can just push
30:52your hands on people, and expect them not to retaliate, but it's not that over here
30:56with me.
30:57But you know I've never put my hands on you, right?
30:58You haven't, and I've never put my hands on you.
31:00I didn't let you drive.
31:01No, I haven't.
31:02During the last thing that they did.
31:03I don't feel like I tried to hit you, no shade.
31:04You didn't jump out the chair?
31:05No.
31:06That was the other one.
31:07Okay.
31:08And me and Kenzie have looked at each other.
31:09We don't give bitches free promo.
31:10What?
31:11You and Kenzie not on the same page no more?
31:12We don't give bitches free promo.
31:13Anyway, um.
31:14This show is a bit different from the other shows that you filmed, and we're really trying
31:25to get to know you as a person, because, you know.
31:27But I don't feel that way.
31:29But I'm here to ask, is it okay if I do get to know you, and I do get a glimpse of y'all
31:35being gay?
31:36I mean, I feel like letting you get to know me is like a mistake in a way, because.
31:42Why?
31:43I feel like you take shit, and you run with it, and you flip it into your own ways.
31:47Like, you know.
31:48What would give you that impression?
31:49I don't know.
31:50Like, just the way you rant about things that you really don't need knowing nothing about,
31:53and stuff like that.
31:54Like, you really will go off not knowing anything, unhinged.
31:57And it's very bad.
31:59I don't know if it's the unwind with Hasha Hay, but you gotta slow down on the wind.
32:05Boo.
32:06Men have dominion over this world.
32:11There's a reason why they are building buildings.
32:13I am not oblivious to my womanhood, and to the weaknesses that I have, and why it is
32:20that I need a man in my life.
32:23Because there are certain things physically that women cannot do, and we won't do.
32:29And to say that, you know, when we have a lot of these feminist movements and stuff.
32:33They're speaking, not for me, as a woman who pushes babies out, and risks her life, and
32:40you know, has all types of issues that, you know, men don't go through.
32:43But a lot of women don't push babies out, though.
32:45I get that.
32:46You know that?
32:47I get that, too.
32:48I get that, too.
32:50A man, I deem, is my king.
32:55He is supposed to protect me, even from myself.
32:58Correct.
32:59I felt the same way about myself, you know?
33:01Exactly.
33:02So, when I fight someone that I know physically is stronger than me, I expect them to dominate
33:08me mentally, not physically.
33:11And I feel like, even if you are living as a woman, and you're in a relationship with
33:16a man, that man that you're with should understand, he doesn't ever have to put his hands on you.
33:22He should be able to dominate you mentally.
33:27And that's what I'm here to do, contrary to popular belief.
33:33I am here because I honestly got upset, and I was damn near in tears when I saw that video
33:39of you.
33:40Nobody, I don't care if you're a man, woman, trans, hermaphrodite, whatever it is, child,
33:46nobody, you having to cover your face up with makeup, I'm looking at your eye.
33:50But that's not from him, though.
33:53I know it's...
33:55You had a couple situations, I know that.
33:58I know that, with the girls and with him.
34:00And I don't know what's going on between y'all relationship, but here's the thing.
34:05I'm here to really just figure out, and the world wants to know, and that's why you're
34:12on this show.
34:14Are you guys in love?
34:16Are you lusting after each other?
34:17And are you loyal to one another?
34:19And that's all I'm here for.
34:20I don't have any desire to call you names, or disrespect you, or not understand you.
34:26We can agree to disagree on some things, but that doesn't mean that we have to get disrespectful
34:30with one another.
34:31And from this moment on, I will respect you.
34:36I've never, ever not respected you.
34:39I just feel like, you know, when people get to talking shit, we get to talking shit, but
34:43I will never, ever raise my hand to you.
34:46And I never have, and I never will.
34:47And I'm like, I have to be there.
34:50We got into it.
34:51I read you.
34:52That's what I do.
34:53I don't...
34:54And that's okay.
34:55Read away.
34:56It's great for reading.
34:57So, let it out.
34:58I don't like that though.
34:59Hashtag hate.
35:00Because it's like, you be nice now, then when you in crowds, you be trying to really play
35:03people.
35:04No, I have to ask questions.
35:05Mm-hmm.
35:06It's okay to ask questions, but it's also like you have to, like you say, be respectful.
35:11But here's the thing.
35:12When you're asking the questions, how you...
35:13I'm not calling you out of your name.
35:14Well, I'm saying, how you want somebody to open up to you when you not making them feel
35:18comfortable?
35:19You know what I mean?
35:20I get it.
35:21As a host, I feel like certain things has to be done.
35:22Like, you know, I understand that's like your way of doing things, but you can't always
35:26do that when you want to host a crowd.
35:29So...
35:30And you want people to listen to you.
35:31You want people to feel comfortable with you, right?
35:32Here's the thing.
35:33Yes.
35:34And I've been doing this a very, very long time.
35:37And it's very rare that I have someone who is super sensitive about the way that I do
35:41business.
35:42Because I feel like you should be able to sit in front of me and say what you want and
35:47vice versa.
35:48But some people cannot take people like me who are going to ask things that you may not
35:54be comfortable with.
35:56It's not about asking.
35:57It's the disrespect that you display.
35:58Okay.
35:59And if you feel like I disrespected you, I humbly apologize.
36:03Okay?
36:05And so I will try my best to connect with you and to be mindful of how I approach you.
36:13But please understand, I'm here to do my job.
36:16And I'm here to do mine too.
36:18Okay?
36:19And I expect you to, because you wouldn't be here if you didn't.
36:21Okay?
36:22You're great TV.
36:23You have a great relationship with NowThis TV.
36:25They love you.
36:26And they really, really want us to...
36:29Because this is a different type of show.
36:31Okay?
36:33They really want me to try to figure out what's going on in your relationship.
36:38Because that video that I saw, when I tell you, I cannot even...
36:43I know that's your man, but I've never in my life have ever been hit by a man.
36:52I can't even fathom.
36:53But I feel like a lot of...
36:54Everybody goes through things in their relationships.
36:58A lot of women out here getting hit on and stuff like that.
37:03I get it.
37:04So when it's sensitive topics like that, I feel like I would like you to be a little
37:09more sensitive to it.
37:10I am sensitive, but I'm not sensitive to a grown man justifying doing anything like that
37:17to anybody, including somebody that he's with.
37:20And so just please know that when I talk to your partner, it's going to be tough.
37:25He's a man.
37:27I'm not going to beat around the bush.
37:29I'm not going to kiss his ass.
37:31I'm not going to stroke his ego.
37:33Because a lot of times when the rah-rah comes, it's because they're on the defense mode,
37:38because they know that the way that they're reacting is wrong.
37:41And you cannot tell me that that shit doesn't hurt you.
37:45But in another breath, though, like, you know, I do got to take some type of accountability
37:52because I did, like, you know, hit him first.
37:56And you got to stop that too?
37:57I do got to stop that.
37:58Because I be hitting, like, you know, and I be thinking, like, that nigga not supposed
38:03to hit me back.
38:04But I don't know.
38:05We're going to figure it out, OK?
38:06But I didn't like what the fuck I saw.
38:09And, you know, yeah, we doing TV, but there's a line that's got to be drawn, OK?
38:13And so you should be able to walk out of here and see and not have to worry about, you know,
38:20anything broken or anything.
38:22He can find a way to restrain you without putting his full force on you.
38:28And we're going to get to the bottom of why he feels that he has to use his full force
38:32against you, because I've seen you fight, and I don't, you don't strike me as somebody
38:39like him that can, you know, put his ass down.
38:43So why would he feel the need to be aggressive with you like that?
38:46So I'm really here for you.
38:48And when you walked in, I truly, when I was arguing, I was arguing with your partner about
38:53putting his hands on you.
38:54But because me and you had unresolved issues, we got off on the wrong foot.
39:00Yeah.
39:01OK?
39:02So just know, when it comes to this, I'm on your side, and that's real talk.
39:09But you should not be putting hands on him.
39:11I know.
39:12And I'm working on that.
39:13All right.
39:14Can we hug it out?
39:15Yeah.
39:16OK.
39:17All right, mama.
39:18All right.
39:19All right, mama.
39:20Let's get this TV done.
39:21I was told that swag, you, you're like polyamorous, right?
39:22I mean, yeah, I am.
39:23But, you know, it is what it is.
39:24It is what it is.
39:25No, for real.
39:26All right, bitch.
39:27Move that fucking snake.
39:28Don't get it.
39:29Get that fucking snake off of me.
39:30Yeah, shut up, bitch.
39:31Try putting your mouth in your ass, bitch.
39:32Let me get the fuck away from you.
39:33Try putting your ass in my mouth.
39:34Take your partner's hand and hold it there, bitch.
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