El intendente de 3 de Febrero se refirió a la inseguridad: "Hay que estar presente. A veces me gustaría ver más al gobernador involucrado".
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00:00and the political man of the day is the lieutenant of February 3 Diego Valenzuela. Hello Diego.
00:04Mariano, everyone. Nice to meet you. Thank you for inviting me.
00:07Before we go to the political issue that concerns us, your change and others,
00:12I would like us to talk about insecurity,
00:15because all night we have been talking here about the issue of this scoundrel motochorro, right?
00:19And you are a lieutenant, and you are the proximity officer, the one who has to face the people.
00:25That's right.
00:26How, from minute zero, in which you took a municipality that was historically Peronist,
00:31Los Pagos de Ocurto, a bastion of a baron of the Conurbano,
00:35what did you do from minute zero to collaborate with security?
00:39Well, first, there are lieutenants who get involved more or less,
00:43not being the police officers.
00:45I believe that the lieutenant is the representative of a town,
00:48and even though you don't have the police bracelet, you have to get involved.
00:52This is cameras, this is lighting, this is neighbor alarm, this is buying cell phones.
00:57And this is also to claim, to have a crime map, to take people's complaints.
01:02I go with all the complaints to the prosecutor's office, to judges, including federal judges,
01:06looking for the loot.
01:08Because if not, citizen security, prevention, patrol, helps,
01:12but it doesn't solve organized crime when you have it rooted in a neighborhood.
01:17So the lieutenant is important.
01:18He is very important.
01:19To collaborate as an accessory force.
01:21That's right.
01:22And I did all this I'm telling you, and I'm still doing it.
01:25Now, to top it off, we have federal forces that help a lot,
01:28with the presence of what Patricia Bullrich sends us.
01:31There is an operation per day of closure and saturation on February 3,
01:34in addition to the patrol of the province and what the municipality contributes.
01:38You have the Army of the Andes, you have the Villa del Mercado, the Pineral.
01:42You have, I think, the Carlos Gardel there too.
01:44That's Morón, on the other side, but Lindero, Lindero.
01:47Lindero, I mean, you have a rosary of the hot zone.
01:50Yes.
01:51What happens to you when you wake up in the morning?
01:53Do you look at the report of your minister?
01:55At all times.
01:56Of your secretary of security? How is it?
01:57Yes, at all times.
01:58At all times, and you have to be present.
02:00You have to put on something that, as a criticism, I say humbly,
02:04sometimes I would like to see the governor more involved in that place,
02:08of I put on the suit of the head of security,
02:10and not leave all this only to the ministry, right?
02:13So I'm behind the reports, the map, the crime.
02:16I look at the statistics month by month.
02:19For example, we have a neighborhood, Ciudad Jardín,
02:21quite accommodated, within what is the heterogeneity of February 3rd, right?
02:26And well, a lot of people who go on vacation,
02:29they steal on the farm during the summer of the people.
02:32Well, what did we do?
02:33A special control plan in the accesses of everything that comes in and everything that comes out.
02:38Control means, how is it going?
02:40Where are you from?
02:41Where are you going?
02:42Document.
02:43If you are on a motorcycle of two, we stop.
02:45In other words, you have to have a plus of control to try to avoid this thing.
02:49And also, what I said before,
02:50work with justice to find the origin of the problem with raids.
02:54Do you see a recrudescimiento of insecurity in the urban area,
02:57in light of what the videos show, right?
02:59Hordes of young people on motorcycles who attack and kill, right?
03:04Which is what we see every day.
03:05And a very difficult crime to prevent.
03:07Because there are a lot of people on motorcycles.
03:09The motorcycle has become very accessible.
03:11People use it for transport, for work.
03:14A motorcycle is bought in quotas.
03:16Not all motorcycles are motorcycles,
03:18but it is clearly difficult to prevent when two appear
03:22and suddenly, boom, what we see on TV.
03:24So there you have to be very strong in control,
03:27in monitoring with the cameras.
03:29And yes, there was an increase.
03:31The numbers of March 24 are not there yet, right?
03:35But you compare March 24 with March 23,
03:37and the crime had gone up 15 points.
03:40So there, the important thing is that everyone,
03:42as it was done in Rosario,
03:44the presidency or Minister Bullrich,
03:48the governors and the mayors,
03:50let's get to work together,
03:52regardless of the party we are.
03:54Guys?
03:56No, no, please.
03:57No, no, I was thinking this,
03:58because the truth is that we are shocked
04:00by everything we see with motorcycles.
04:02I also thought that the motorcycle, first of all,
04:04is more accessible and also work,
04:06because today, for the boys, it is also a job.
04:09We see a lot of motorcycles.
04:11With all the distributors, it is a job that has grown a lot.
04:13But how to stop it?
04:15How can it be controlled?
04:17We were talking about no more than two on a motorcycle.
04:20What can be done specifically?
04:23For now, have a very strong attitude of control,
04:26of all those who ride two on a motorcycle.
04:28The one who has no problem,
04:30presents you the registration, the patent and continues.
04:33But if the motorcyclist feels that he enters a district,
04:37be it San Martín, Merlo, Morón,
04:39and somewhere they invoke you with a control,
04:41it is likely that he will go to another place.
04:43But this is not enough, because sometimes the crime is displaced.
04:46That's why you have to go to the gangs.
04:48For example, one thing that I detected,
04:50in a neighborhood there was a lot of theft of application cars.
04:53Of these that are taxis, taxi type.
04:57Of course, of one of the best-known brands.
05:00And I took the initiative,
05:02that other institutions had not taken,
05:04to go to this application and tell it what data you have.
05:07And they had all the data of those who asked for the vehicles
05:10and then they defrauded them.
05:12With that, we made a request to the justice,
05:14a search, and there were, I think, 12, 13 detainees.
05:18The heads, the boys who stole, those who called.
05:21In other words, you don't have to let go of a situation
05:25where the crime goes up in a place,
05:27because there may be a gang,
05:29and it happened with this place, which was in Barrio Esperanza.
05:31We made a search with the Federal Police and it went very well.
05:34And that gang is not working today.
05:36But wait, we are careful that it does not return.
05:38Because this is the other thing that happens.
05:39You knock down a bunker, and if you fall asleep, it comes back.
05:42Of course.
05:44The other time we made a search in the neighborhood,
05:46in the neighborhood of Puerta 8,
05:48which was where the adulterated drug thing happened.
05:50Yes, of course, there is a gang of, there is a gang of drug traffickers.
05:54And we came back, and there was a search with detainees,
05:57with drug traffickers, precisely.
05:59And as often as it is, we are going to go, not us,
06:01because the municipal role is not to make the search,
06:04it is to bring the information to justice,
06:06to do the relevant field investigation,
06:09and then the judge gives the OK to make the search.
06:12But, Lieutenant, why do you think that Governor Kicillof
06:14does not put security as a focus of his management,
06:18as a topic to pay attention to and 100% of his efforts?
06:24I really don't know.
06:26I would like to ask him sometime in confidence,
06:28I don't know if I'm going to have that opportunity.
06:30It seems to me that he has an ideological side with the subject.
06:33To the people who are in Axel's ideological position,
06:36so let's say, from the left,
06:38or I would say my communist law, I don't know,
06:42Marxist, socialist,
06:44he always seeks justification for crime,
06:47instead of fighting crime.
06:49Of course.
06:50And here, clearly, the criminal is a criminal,
06:52and you have to protect the victims.
06:54And the insecurity of the left and the right.
06:56Of course.
06:57It affects the left and the right.
06:59Who suffers the most from insecurity? The worker,
07:01the poor person who lives in these neighborhoods,
07:03subjugated by the criminals.
07:05So you have to put yourself in that place,
07:07lower the ideological prejudices,
07:09and start to control.
07:11Don't think that controlling is repressing.
07:14No, controlling is controlling,
07:15it is giving security to the people,
07:17and it is also supporting the police.
07:19Because you know what happens?
07:20When the politician or the one who governs
07:22doesn't support the police, the police doesn't act.
07:24It circulates, it goes around, and it does a what-if.
07:27Because if it intervenes, and then it is played,
07:30and they don't support it,
07:31the one who pays for it is the police.
07:33So you have to have political support,
07:35like the one given by Patricia Bullrich.
07:37Now, I want to ask you,
07:38putting myself a little on the other side, right?
07:40Now I'm going to be unpleasant for the people watching us,
07:42but I always ask the same thing.
07:44What is the answer,
07:46or does insecurity become an element,
07:48really, when it comes to voting,
07:50this year we have to vote?
07:51Or does it always weigh more,
07:52and well, but let's see, the country model,
07:54if with this one it is better,
07:55I'm already tired of these others,
07:57always the same politicians.
07:58I'm sorry for the mayor,
08:00but I vote for the list,
08:02such or such,
08:03that the president throws it away,
08:06the minister they are going to appoint throws it away.
08:09Is it a political argument?
08:10We always see it.
08:11People complain,
08:12they are insecure,
08:13they are not on the streets,
08:14they say they see little of the police,
08:15but then the mayors,
08:17there are some who have been since democracy returned.
08:20Of course, and also, paradoxically,
08:21the mayors are not the ones who can give the answer.
08:23Of course.
08:24That's it.
08:25We need a government that does not hide,
08:27that faces us, that summons us.
08:29I have been sharing government with Kicillof for more than five years,
08:33and he never called me to talk about this issue.
08:35Never?
08:36Never.
08:37We have a deal with the Ministry of Security.
08:39The Minister of Security is very proactive.
08:41Yes, Javier Alonso.
08:42We work well with him, with his team,
08:44but the resources are scarce.
08:46And this requires a prioritization from the politicians.
08:48Are they underpaid?
08:49Yes, and they lack everything from the police.
08:52So if you give them priority, you give them resources too.
08:55So the issue of insecurity is also a matter of money?
08:58Of everything, of course.
08:59You need to put money, build houses.
09:01Of strategy, of political prioritization.
09:03And as you say,
09:04maybe now that inflation has gone down,
09:06you know, the vote has a lot to do with the pocket,
09:09with employment, with inflation.
09:10Now that inflation has gone down,
09:11probably more people will vote looking at security.
09:14And there I say,
09:15the mayor, whoever he is,
09:18Moreira, Gui, Menendez, me, or whoever,
09:23he doesn't manage the police.
09:25You can knock on his door a thousand times,
09:27but you can't create police.
09:29You can collaborate.
09:30So it's very important that we invoke this,
09:34the responsibility of the province,
09:36and also vote in consequence,
09:38and not blame the one who is closest,
09:40because it is the only one who serves you,
09:41which is the mayor.
09:42No, but there is a reality.
09:43There are more proactive mayors with security issues,
09:46putting cameras, adding cell phones, supporting.
09:50There are mayors who stood out for that.
09:52And I want to be very plural in this.
09:53You say, a Granados, this issue mattered to him.
09:56A Maza, when he was mayor of Tigre, it mattered to him.
09:59Look, one of the last surveys that was done
10:02of positive and negative image,
10:04of the mayors of the Conurbano.
10:07The two that are head to head,
10:09of positive image,
10:11one is Diego Valenzuela,
10:12and the other is Leonardo Nardini,
10:14of Malvinas Argentinas,
10:16Union por la Patria.
10:18What do I mean?
10:19When one...
10:20Who is the last one?
10:22We just named him.
10:23On the other side,
10:24Gustavo Menendez de Merlo,
10:26with, I'm not going to say the...
10:28The percentage.
10:29The percentage.
10:30But I mean,
10:31someone who is not from the stick of Peronism,
10:34with one of Union por la Patria,
10:35are the two that head to head,
10:36are with a positive image of almost 40%
10:39in their district.
10:40They have a lot to do.
10:41It can be,
10:42it can be or it can not be managed.
10:43Yes, of course.
10:44I put the example,
10:45we who live in the city of Buenos Aires,
10:47there are no more pickets
10:50than it was a political decision
10:53to take the bull by the horns
10:55and fight all the flanks.
10:58The managers of poverty,
11:00those who were going to cut the streets,
11:05get this extortion that they did to him,
11:07if you don't come, you don't charge the plan.
11:08What I say is,
11:09Diego, dear,
11:10you can or you can't manage a municipality.
11:12Because we are counting here,
11:14not to mention La Matanza, right?
11:15Which is like no one's land.
11:18No one's land.
11:19There is no decision.
11:20Don't politicians realize
11:22that on the other side there are people
11:23who are going to support them
11:24if they solve the problems they have?
11:27Yes, yes,
11:28because as you solve the problems,
11:30you empathize with the people,
11:32you put resources in the important,
11:34that correlates with the vote.
11:36That's why the images,
11:38it's not casual,
11:39it's management, it's labor.
11:41And those who have a worse image, too.
11:43And that should be seen later,
11:45in an election,
11:46with prizes and punishments
11:47regarding how each one acts.
11:49I was thinking about what you were asking
11:50and what you were saying.
11:51The guy who gets up at five in the morning,
11:53who in winter,
11:54or most of the year,
11:55is at night,
11:56who has to pray
11:57so that nothing happens to him,
11:58takes a bus,
11:59then arrives in the center
12:00of the city of Buenos Aires,
12:02the buses, the transports,
12:04they don't have a subsidy,
12:06or very little.
12:07And then he has to take another vehicle
12:09to get to a job
12:10at the other end of the city.
12:12That person,
12:13it depends a lot
12:14on getting security,
12:15because if not,
12:16how am I going to work?
12:18You're paying,
12:19because you pay VAT,
12:20because you pay gross income,
12:22and because you pay municipal rate.
12:24So it's very important
12:25that when it comes to demanding,
12:27and when it comes to voting,
12:28we put values.
12:29Diego, well,
12:30I said,
12:31he's one of the men of the day,
12:32or the man of the day
12:33in politics.
12:34Why,
12:35why does freedom advance, Diego?
12:38Well,
12:39I have the shirt of change.
12:41Today,
12:42some asked me
12:43why the pass?
12:44I don't consider it to be a pass,
12:45because it seems to me
12:46that this government
12:47is the expression
12:48of this time of change.
12:49That was also the support
12:51of Juntos por el Cambio
12:52in the ballot box.
12:53That is the presence
12:54of Patricia and Petri
12:55in the government,
12:56and of many others,
12:57because here,
12:58let's not forget
12:59that there is Sturzenegger,
13:00Caputo,
13:01all the people
13:02who worked in the pro.
13:03So it seems to me
13:04that we are
13:05making a decision
13:06to contribute,
13:07to build,
13:08from the place
13:09of the change
13:10that the Argentines
13:11voted for.
13:12That is above
13:13the parties
13:14and the people.
13:15Secondly,
13:16I think
13:17we have to plug
13:18the province of Buenos Aires
13:19to the national change.
13:20I feel that this is the place
13:21where I can contribute,
13:22and that this is the space
13:23from which we can
13:24achieve better results
13:25to put an alternative
13:26to Kicillof.
13:27And the other thing
13:28is that because I know
13:29the president,
13:30because we studied
13:31together,
13:32because I trust
13:33his capacity.
13:34Did you go to school
13:35together?
13:36No,
13:37to the University of Belgrano.
13:38We studied economics.
13:39I have known him
13:40for more than 30 years.
13:41We had hours of study,
13:42hours of economics
13:43talks.
13:44We recently retook it,
13:45and I think he is
13:46putting a lot of effort
13:47to improve the economy,
13:48and that is something
13:49to support.
13:50There is the
13:51welcome tweet,
13:52in the X network.
13:53Welcome,
13:54Diego Valenzuela,
13:55to freedom.
13:56He advances to continue
13:57going to the bottom
13:58with the ideas of freedom.
13:59And we also have
14:00a typical photo
14:01with thumbs up
14:02of President Milley.
14:03And we also have
14:04a historical photo
14:05to show.
14:06Let's see.
14:07Let's see,
14:08there it is.
14:09There they are,
14:10in the faculty.
14:11Let's see,
14:12explain to us a little.
14:13How are the other three
14:14that we are sending
14:15to the front?
14:16The one on the left
14:17is Mariano Selvaggi,
14:18economist,
14:19Cecilia,
14:20the one in the middle,
14:21and the other,
14:22Ramiro,
14:23a great friend
14:24who is also an accountant.
14:25We were classmates
14:26in the faculty.
14:27There is Javier,
14:28he came to the surprise
14:29graduation party
14:30that my mom did for me
14:31in Santos Lugares
14:32and Javier came.
14:33Look at you,
14:34this is a story.
14:35This relationship
14:36is that lately
14:37I talk a lot with him,
14:38I bring him ideas
14:39of the province,
14:40of the microeconomy,
14:41which is what I see,
14:42of the things
14:43that can be improved.
14:44And one day I told him,
14:45I support as an ally.
14:46What happens if I work
14:47more directly with you,
14:48with Karina?
14:49Because I feel
14:50that in the province
14:51there is a lot to do.
14:52He said to me,
14:53the idea seems good to me,
14:54let's work more
14:55together.
14:56Diego,
14:57I would also like
14:58to ask you,
14:59because you come
15:00from another pole
15:01of politics,
15:02you are a pragmatic person,
15:03you have been
15:04in other spaces.
15:05This brutal adjustment
15:06that has been lived
15:07for a year,
15:08that some say,
15:09or the majority
15:10that it was necessary,
15:11does not need
15:12a little of the presence
15:13of the State?
15:14I say,
15:15at one point
15:16don't you think
15:17that the State
15:18should be present?
15:19Yes,
15:20the State
15:21has to be present
15:22in certain things.
15:23What I mean
15:24is,
15:25the State
15:26has to be present
15:27in certain things.
15:28What we can discuss
15:29as a society is
15:30in which,
15:31in which yes,
15:32in which no.
15:33Because as we increase
15:34the presence of the State,
15:35we also have to increase
15:36the taxes.
15:37And that complicates
15:38the investment,
15:39the work,
15:40the possibilities
15:41of entrepreneurs,
15:42of SMEs.
15:43If you take,
15:44to do many things
15:45with public spending,
15:46the taxes to the extreme,
15:47you drown out
15:48the ability
15:49of investment
15:50and work
15:51of society.
15:52Obviously,
15:53there comes the discussion.
15:54There are things
15:55that yes,
15:56the State
15:57has to do,
15:58but the provinces
15:59have to do them
16:00and not the nation.
16:01Education,
16:02health,
16:03and security.
16:04Things we were
16:05talking about before.
16:06Those things.
16:07We are confused.
16:08The nation
16:09doesn't have to do them.
16:10The nation
16:11doesn't manage
16:12schools or hospitals,
16:13for example.
16:14Security,
16:15the federal is national,
16:16but the provincial,
16:17the everyday
16:18is provincial.
16:19The national State
16:20does macroeconomics,
16:21defense,
16:22justice.
16:23We have to reflect
16:24on what the State
16:25does at each level
16:26and what taxes
16:27we have to collect
16:28while maintaining
16:29a fiscal balance
16:30so there is no emission
16:31and no inflation.
16:32That is the sign
16:33of the time.
16:34Diego,
16:35what future
16:36do you see for PRO?
16:37How do you think
16:38the party
16:39that was founded
16:40more than 20 years ago
16:41in the city
16:42of Buenos Aires
16:43is going to stay
16:44in the next years?
16:45Well,
16:46as I said before,
16:47for me,
16:48change transcends
16:49people
16:50or parties.
16:51So,
16:52for that reason,
16:53I think that
16:54in the order of priorities
16:55one does not think
16:56first about a party.
16:57A party
16:58is an instrument,
16:59it is not an end
17:00in itself.
17:01But,
17:02taking the question,
17:03first of all,
17:04I am grateful
17:05to PRO.
17:06It is an identity
17:07that I will carry
17:08forever.
17:09I don't want to
17:10leave it.
17:11Although,
17:12today I have
17:13a political decision
17:14of where
17:15I can contribute
17:16more,
17:17better,
17:18and transform,
17:19in my case,
17:20I think that
17:21PRO is part
17:22of change.
17:23PRO is synonymous
17:24with change.
17:25It cannot be
17:26outside of change.
17:27Because,
17:28outside of change,
17:29there is Kirchnerism.
17:30So,
17:31it seems to me
17:32that,
17:33in one way,
17:34like ours,
17:35or another,
17:36we have to look
17:37for a way
17:38to reach agreements
17:39to unite
17:40those two
17:41speeds of change
17:42that are not
17:43so different
17:44in the end,
17:45since many
17:46of the things
17:47that my law
17:48is doing
17:49in Venezuela
17:50with us,
17:51the political man
17:52of the day.