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00:00This is a special edition of the book, Who is the Phantom Thief?
00:09In this episode, we will be digging deeper into the books that have changed the world.
00:16Who is the Phantom Thief?
00:18This time, we will be exploring the Chiritei Book Cafe in Komazawa, Tokyo.
00:26It's a very small place.
00:28If you use the cafe, you can read up to 1,500 books.
00:34If you use the cafe?
00:36So the cafe is the main?
00:37Yes, the cafe is the main.
00:39So it's the same system as a Chinese restaurant.
00:42So it's the same system as a Chinese restaurant.
00:44There is a map that this owner drew when he was young.
00:48There is a map that this owner drew when he was young.
00:51What is that?
00:52You drew this yourself?
00:53It's a map that doesn't actually exist.
00:55You drew this on your own?
00:57It's a map of Shizuhama.
00:59It's the capital of Shizuhama.
01:01It's the map that no one can buy in the Shim city.
01:04He must have done it himself.
01:06There is a building here.
01:10Yes, there is.
01:11What is that building on your right?
01:13If this is the centre, then they broadcast their program here.
01:17Wow, television?
01:18This is a television.
01:20Oh, wow.
01:21That's what I'm talking about.
01:22I'm doing wide U from 2 to 3 o'clock.
01:26That won't grow, will it?
01:28When I was in elementary school, I wanted to draw something like that.
01:33I know, I know.
01:34I used to draw a house.
01:37A house?
01:38All of us have a house.
01:40So, on the first floor of the house, there's a picture of a friend.
01:46On the third floor, there's an orange.
01:48So, in front of the orange, there's a picture of a girl.
01:51That's right.
01:52That's a great picture.
01:54That's a great picture.
01:55I'm sure you have a girl you like somewhere.
01:57That's right.
01:58That's interesting.
02:00This week's topic is this.
02:04Intimacy.
02:05I've heard that a lot lately.
02:06I'm not on the side of justice.
02:08I've heard that for the past two or three years.
02:11Four or five years.
02:12I don't know much about it.
02:14Nominated for the 2012 Ryukoku Awards.
02:17Oh, really?
02:18This year's Intimacy Coordinator.
02:21I'm going to talk about the difficulties of the job.
02:26Well, I heard the name.
02:29It's like they're on a wetland.
02:33I think so.
02:36It's possible that you're going to get in trouble.
02:40There's a possibility that you're enemies of us.
02:43If it wasn't for him, I would have been able to see more.
02:45That's true.
02:46He has a pure and erotic heart.
02:52Nice to meet you. My name is Nishiyama.
02:54Nice to meet you.
02:56Are you an Intimacy Coordinator?
02:59Yes, I'm an Intimacy Coordinator.
03:02I got my license in 2020, so it's been about 4 years.
03:08You have a license?
03:09Yes, I do.
03:10I have a license for each organization around the world.
03:13It's not a national license.
03:16Like a vegetable sommelier?
03:18Yes.
03:19Something like that?
03:20Yes.
03:21Aromatherapy?
03:22Yes.
03:23It's probably close.
03:26I started in the world in 2018.
03:30It's a new job overall.
03:33What did you do before you got the license?
03:36I'm still doing it.
03:39I'm a location coordinator specialized in Africa.
03:42What?
03:43Why?
03:44I was looking for a job at Rikunabi Next.
03:47Rikunabi Next?
03:48That's a weird name.
03:49Rikunabi Next?
03:50Yes.
03:51Why don't you be a location coordinator for Africa?
03:53Were you interested in Africa?
03:55I've never been there.
03:56You've never been there?
03:57What's the language of Africa?
03:58Africa has a lot of English and French.
04:02Oh, I see.
04:03I can speak English because I used to live abroad.
04:06I can speak English, so I think I can do it.
04:09You didn't want to be a location coordinator for a long time, did you?
04:13I got tired of being a location coordinator.
04:16You got tired of it?
04:18What kind of tiredness is that?
04:20Even if I say I can't do it, I'm only encouraged to do my best.
04:25You've been encouraged a lot.
04:28I've been doing that for a long time.
04:30I understand.
04:31You're a TV person.
04:33I'm tired of being outside.
04:36When I was tired, I took a taxi.
04:41The taxi driver said,
04:44I've been doing this for decades.
04:48It's over today.
04:49It's the last day.
04:51You're going to retire.
04:52That's right.
04:53When I heard that,
04:54I asked him how he felt about his job.
04:58He said it was a lot of fun.
05:01I've been doing this for decades, but I don't think it's over.
05:05Let's stop being a location coordinator for a while.
05:07Did you think so?
05:09I thought so.
05:11At that time, you were an intimacy coordinator.
05:13You didn't know at all.
05:15You didn't even know the words.
05:17I didn't know.
05:18How did you know that?
05:20I had a Japanese friend who lived in the UK.
05:23He said,
05:24Momo, do you know the job of an intimacy coordinator?
05:26I said, I don't know.
05:28He said he was doing training in Japan.
05:32He said he was training to be an intimacy coordinator.
05:35He said he wasn't interested.
05:37I said, I'm free now.
05:39I thought I could do it.
05:40Were you interested?
05:42I was interested.
05:43When I got this job,
05:45I didn't think it was directly related to my job.
05:48I thought I could do it.
05:50I thought I'd study it once.
05:53How many people accepted it at once?
05:56At that time, there were only two people in Japan.
06:01What is the job of an intimacy coordinator?
06:08As you said earlier,
06:10In Japan, it's called Nureba.
06:13Can I say Nureba?
06:15It's easy to understand.
06:17I'm glad.
06:19We don't say Nureba.
06:23What do you call it?
06:24Sexual description.
06:26Sexual description?
06:27Sex scene.
06:29Can I say sex scene?
06:31It's our image.
06:34It's like someone who goes into a drama or a movie and says,
06:37This sexual description is too much.
06:40It's like someone who's careful about that.
06:44Is that the case?
06:46That's what people think.
06:48Basically, how to improve the work.
06:51I'm sure you'll want it.
06:54We're not an inspector.
06:56I'm a coordinator.
06:58I'm a coordinator.
07:00You don't have to be careful.
07:02No.
07:03When I'm on the phone in the bathroom,
07:06I wonder how far I can see.
07:09I'm talking outside.
07:11I'm washing my body outside.
07:14It's a little different.
07:16So I always pick it up first.
07:20I'll check with the director.
07:23What kind of image is this?
07:25I'm going to listen to the director's image.
07:28I'm going to tell the actors about the director's image.
07:31So you're telling them what the director and the producer are saying.
07:36That's right.
07:38You're connecting it.
07:40I'm just coordinating it.
07:42When the director says it directly,
07:47It's hard to say no.
07:49For example, when the director says,
07:52I really don't like it.
07:54If I say I don't like it, people might think it's not funny.
07:57I might be forced to do my next job.
07:59You're forcing yourself to do it.
08:01You're the one who's tired.
08:03That's right.
08:04In the past, I was the only one who could save me.
08:10It's hard to say directly to the director.
08:13I see.
08:15You have to coordinate it.
08:18For example, when an animal approaches,
08:21I have to stop it.
08:23That's right.
08:24The director will say more and more.
08:26That's right.
08:28You were on our side.
08:31You weren't the enemy.
08:33You're connecting it.
08:35I thought it was the same.
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08:54If there is such a scene in a movie or a drama,
08:57do you have to prepare an intimacy coordinator?
09:01You don't have to,
09:03but the direction of doing it is very wide and fast.
09:08Even if you look at the world,
09:10I think Japan is very fast in spreading.
09:13The speed of spreading is fast.
09:15It was fast.
09:16I'm in a pretty standard ground wave drama.
09:21If there is such a scene, I will contact you once.
09:24I've been able to do that.
09:26Is it the production side or the actor side?
09:30It's basically the production side.
09:32So you're doing it properly.
09:34I'm a producer, so I'm going to make it carefully.
09:39How do you become an intimacy coordinator?
09:43There are so-called qualifications.
09:46There are organizations all over the world that issue qualifications.
09:51What kind of test is it?
09:54For the exam,
09:56if you see harassment like this, who do you tell?
10:00What does the person in this position do?
10:03From that kind of thing,
10:06basically, now,
10:08you have to take a 75-hour seat.
10:11What is the content of the seat?
10:13The content of the seat is about work,
10:16harassment,
10:18gender,
10:20how to communicate,
10:22mental health, etc.
10:24Is it a job you can't do if you don't know that?
10:26If you don't know that,
10:28for example, in a scene like this,
10:30I say,
10:31There's no way this is going to happen.
10:33Isn't it a little unpleasant to describe this?
10:35A word like that
10:37may hurt someone at the time.
10:40There are people who have such qualifications.
10:43That's difficult.
10:45It's called a standard,
10:47but you don't know if it's a standard.
10:50Is that a judgment?
10:52So when I talk to you,
10:54I try to listen in detail.
10:56So if you ask me how I feel about this,
10:59I'll be like,
11:00Oh, it's okay.
11:01Even if you say something unpleasant,
11:03I can't think of it.
11:04What if you say you don't like being touched?
11:08Oh, but I guess I don't like it.
11:12That's about it.
11:13For example,
11:14Is it okay to touch your hair?
11:17How about your ears and neck?
11:20How about this exposure?
11:21If you ask me one by one,
11:23I'm sure I don't like it.
11:24I don't like it when it comes out.
11:25I don't like the neck.
11:27But I try not to ask about it.
11:31How far do you stay at the scene?
11:34Of course, I'll be there.
11:36Do you stay in the changing room?
11:37That's right.
11:38The most important thing is to prepare in advance.
11:41And in the end,
11:42Everyone knows what to do on the day of the show.
11:47Everyone knows how far to take it off.
11:50Even the actor himself.
11:52I won't take it off any more today.
11:54I'll take it off up to here.
11:55With that in mind,
11:57The scene starts.
11:59I'll check the movement with a step-by-step shoot.
12:02And I'll actually put on my clothes.
12:06If I can't see this part as much as I can,
12:08I don't have to show it.
12:11If I can hide this part, I'll hide it.
12:14That's all.
12:15What's your salary like?
12:18Do you make money?
12:19I don't make money at all.
12:20More than when you were a coordinator?
12:22So next year,
12:23I'm going to be a coordinator soon.
12:25What?
12:26Stop it.
12:27What?
12:28Stop it.
12:29These guys are going to do it again.
12:31It's impossible.
12:32It's impossible.
12:33But I can fight.
12:36You've got the intimacy.
12:38I've been fighting all the time.
12:41I'm from Africa,
12:43so there aren't many coordinators in Africa.
12:45So I can do it with a little courage.
12:52I've seen dramas and movies.
12:54Is there a movie that doesn't have an intimacy coordinator?
12:58Yes, there is.
13:00There are a lot.
13:01There are a lot.
13:02How many people are working independently as intimacy coordinators now?
13:08A few people.
13:09That's not a lot.
13:11I think one person is enough.
13:13So you're doing it with about five people?
13:16That's right.
13:17Various drama sites.
13:18But if you're only doing it with five people,
13:20it's a lot of work.
13:24I'm doing more than 15 works at the same time.
13:28At the same time?
13:29At the same time.
13:30That's amazing.
13:31How much is it per work?
13:35How much is it?
13:38As you can see from the entertainment industry in Japan,
13:43there is no budget.
13:45There is always no budget for the second work.
13:48So even if we want to do a new job,
13:52the budget doesn't increase suddenly.
13:54There are people who are willing to do it.
14:00So I usually get paid for one work.
14:04Not for one episode?
14:05Not for one episode.
14:06But in a sense,
14:08there are not always eight episodes.
14:13There are times when there is only one episode.
14:17But I prepare in advance.
14:20I talk to the actors.
14:22I don't know when the schedule will be set.
14:24That's right.
14:25That's why there are a lot of episodes.
14:30I go to the site a lot in a day.
14:33However,
14:35for example,
14:36one episode is about three months.
14:40In a month, it's like New Year's.
14:44It depends on the work.
14:46For example,
14:47in a TV series,
14:48one episode is about 100,000 yen.
14:50It's a reasonable amount.
14:52If not,
14:53it's about 100,000 yen.
14:55For example,
14:56one episode is about four days.
14:58It's hard.
14:59You have to read the script.
15:01Even if there are 10 episodes,
15:04the budget is fixed.
15:06In a month,
15:07it's about 200,000 yen.
15:08It's about 300,000 yen.
15:10In Africa...
15:12I don't want to do it anymore.
15:14I want to do it.
15:16Variety shows are interesting.
15:20What's hard for you?
15:22Intimacy?
15:24Intimacy is
15:26about communication.
15:28It's about getting to know each other.
15:31It's a sensitive story.
15:33I think people's feelings can change.
15:37Even if you think it's good when you receive it,
15:39there are times when you don't like it.
15:43How do you deal with that?
15:45I see.
15:47It's different to do it,
15:49but you have to make it a good work.
15:53It's not a persuasive job.
15:55I don't want to do what I don't like.
15:59I don't want to do it for nothing.
16:01If it's necessary as a work,
16:04I won't deny it.
16:06I'll accept it.
16:08However,
16:09it's like a service cut.
16:12It's the same for men.
16:14It's like putting in a shower scene for men.
16:17Oh, I see.
16:19It's like showing the actor's chest.
16:23I don't know if it's necessary for the essence of the story.
16:27I think so, too.
16:29I wonder if it's necessary.
16:31What kind of drama and movie are you doing now?
16:36Is there anything you can say?
16:38It's a drama in Osaka.
16:40It's a drama in Osaka.
16:42It's Megumi's drama.
16:44She's taking a bath.
16:46I want to be her wife.
16:48Wow.
16:50You'll be a good coordinator.
16:52You'll be a good coordinator.
16:54Are you tired at the scene?
16:56Yes, I'm tired at the scene.
16:58I'm tired at the scene.
17:00In the past,
17:02the director of a pink movie
17:04said,
17:06I don't need an intimacy coordinator.
17:08In this era,
17:10there are a lot of people
17:12who take a lot of pink movies.
17:14They call me.
17:16On the contrary,
17:18in this era,
17:20the number of erotic scenes
17:22is increasing, isn't it?
17:24Yes, it's increasing.
17:26There are dramatic scenes.
17:28It's a late-night scene.
17:30This is my front cover.
17:32This is my front cover.
17:34This is my front cover.
17:36My friend's stylist
17:38sewed it for me every time.
17:40The method is the same,
17:42but it's a one-touch style.
17:44This is good.
17:46This is good.
17:48You should get this.
17:50You should get this.
17:52You have a lot of work to do.
17:54You have a lot of work to do.
17:56You can put it in here.
17:58You can put it in here.
18:00You can put it in here.
18:02Isn't that too much?
18:04No, it's not.
18:06Everyone knows me,
18:08so I don't care much
18:10about it.
18:12And it doesn't bother me
18:14even if I get it.
18:16It doesn't do that.
18:18Even between us.
18:20It cares about us.
18:26This is great.
18:28This is great.
18:30It's a lot of trouble to take this off.
18:32It doesn't change much, but this one is for swimming, so it depends on the water.
18:38That's good.
18:39I have a lot of these.
18:41I like this one.
18:44Can you make a smaller one?
18:46When I do action, I make it in a bag.
18:50I don't bring it, but I put it in a bag.
18:53You put everything in a bag?
18:55Then give me that.
18:56I don't have that.
18:58I've been doing this for over 10 years, but I only have two.
19:00Give me the small one.
19:01The curry is small.
19:03Mr. Intimacy.
19:05Can't we have a conversation now?
19:07It's for two people.
19:13What do you want to convey in this book?
19:16I want to encourage young people.
19:22I don't have a goal or a dream.
19:26Even if I don't have it, I'm here and having fun.
19:30When I came back to Japan, I had a lot of pressure.
19:34I had to do my best.
19:38It was hard.
19:40I had to do it seriously.
19:42But even if I don't do it seriously, I'm living like this.
19:46I feel like I'm fine.
19:49I see.
19:50It's not just about the work of Mr. Intimacy.
19:53You have a lot of life here.
19:55I have a lot of life.
19:56Does that mean you can be more comfortable?
19:58I want people to think that I can live like this.
20:08I've been doing this show for about three years.
20:10I think I've grown the most.
20:13I'm not trying to raise the bar.
20:15This book doesn't contain Mr. Intimacy.
20:18My life is naked.
20:24Yes.
20:25Yes.
20:27Yes.
20:28You've said a lot of good things.
20:30I've said a lot of good things.
20:32But it's a little disgusting.
20:34What did you say?
20:35My life is naked.
20:37What did you say?
20:39You're wrong.
20:40What did you say?
20:42This belt is also a front buckle.
20:45You're lying.
20:46Yes.
20:47No, I'm not.
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