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00:00First of all, I would like to know, on 2nd January, everyone was adamant that there will be a breakthrough.
00:07The PTI had to give written demands to the government.
00:11Those written demands were not met.
00:13What was to be kept in that thing?
00:15Was there no reason that the PTI was not being supported by the government?
00:19And was it not that not meeting was the reason for all this?
00:26Thank you very much, Rekha.
00:28The thing is, I think everything is very clear.
00:32Those of you who are connected to the media and have a deep insight into the circumstances,
00:39you know that our first meeting took place on 23rd December.
00:44And in that meeting, first of all, there was no complete presence of the PTI.
00:49We can understand the reasons for that.
00:52Akbar Janab was there, which he has stated.
00:55But in that meeting, one thing was decided that the PTI will give its demands in a formal manner,
01:02in a written form, in the form of a Charter of Demands,
01:07so that we can consult with each other and react to it.
01:12This was decided.
01:13The first thing we did was to launch a giant communique.
01:16We launched a joint declaration.
01:17This was also written in that.
01:19So there was expectation, as you said in your introduction,
01:22that the matter will move forward on 2nd December.
01:24The Charter of Demands will be in front of us.
01:27And we will start a serious discussion on that.
01:29So practically, our negotiations will enter a new phase.
01:34This did not happen.
01:36They did not bring the Charter in that.
01:38And they gave an interpretation that their leader, Mr. Imran Khan,
01:46needs further consultation and guidance from him.
01:51To which we agreed.
01:52And they said that once again, our entire team should be given a chance to meet.
01:57We facilitated it.
01:59If it does not happen today, it will happen on Monday, God willing.
02:02It will happen.
02:03They also said in the same meeting, in the second meeting,
02:07that we will need a week's time for the next date.
02:11We said, okay, take a week's time.
02:13So we are waiting.
02:14We are waiting for the date.
02:16And we are waiting for the Charter of Demands also.
02:19These two things are now coming from them.
02:22But practically, Anika, where we were standing on 23rd,
02:26today, on 4th January, we are standing there.
02:30We could not move forward.
02:31Because until we get a solid, solid document,
02:36it will be difficult to move forward.
02:38But sir, the problem is that you are all senior leaders.
02:42You know that Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf is Mr. Imran Khan's name.
02:46And until there is no discussion or facilitation
02:50about meeting him without a date,
02:53such hurdles will continue to come from Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.
02:57So will the government provide any special facilitation
03:01to meet him every time?
03:03Or will it be given an overall blanket cover
03:06that you are lying to meet Mr. Imran Khan openly
03:08regarding the negotiations?
03:11Look, we also have a leadership.
03:16Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif is leading our team.
03:21Amir Muhammad Nawaz Sharif.
03:23We also have to take his opinion.
03:25Members of People's Party are also part of our team.
03:28They have their own leadership.
03:30There are people from MKM, BAP.
03:32All of them need consultation.
03:36But it is not that we are constantly bothering PM.
03:41Or telling Nawaz Sharif that we need time.
03:45When a team is formed,
03:48it is given the authority to stay within the limits.
03:53Wherever you think that this work is beyond your limits,
03:56you can come to us.
03:58Now the matter is that what they had decided in the first meeting
04:03that they will bring the Charter of Demand in a written form.
04:07So we thought,
04:09because they had a meeting with Mr. Khan at that time,
04:12that this might have been decided.
04:14But after that, when they came on 2nd,
04:17they said that we need more consultation.
04:19So we will try that
04:21only because the negotiations do not go wrong,
04:25that we did not make them meet.
04:27We will make them meet.
04:29But for a small movement,
04:31for a small thing,
04:33during the negotiations,
04:35during the discussions,
04:37during the talks,
04:39if they feel the need to take guidance from there,
04:42then they may not be able to move forward with full confidence.
04:46And there may be difficulties for the government
04:49as to how to make it practical.
04:51I am sorry, I am cutting you short.
04:53Mr. Senator, I understand,
04:55that you people,
04:57the government side,
04:59will not allow Mr. Imran Khan to meet
05:01whenever, wherever,
05:03the day he wants to meet.
05:05There must be some rules and regulations.
05:07Is that right?
05:09Rules and regulations?
05:11Look, Anika,
05:13I am not talking about rules and regulations.
05:15Rules and regulations are there anyway.
05:17When they go,
05:19they go according to some rules and regulations.
05:21We do not give them any blanket chit.
05:24We contact the Ministry of Internal Affairs
05:27to facilitate them.
05:29They act according to the rules and regulations.
05:31What I mean to say is that
05:33the PTI team should get
05:35so much confidence
05:37from their chief,
05:39from their leader,
05:41that they can move forward with full confidence
05:43in the negotiations.
05:45Yes, when a decision is made
05:47and they have to take guidance from their leaders,
05:50then they must take it.
05:52But despite this,
05:54I am saying that
05:56we will not let the negotiations
05:58get spoiled just because
06:00we did not give them a chance
06:02to meet Mr. Imran Khan.
06:04That will not happen.
06:06We will give them a chance
06:08whenever they ask for it.
06:10We will definitely give them a chance.