जोधपुर. भारतीय प्रशासनिक सेवा में होने के बाद भी अपने पढ़ने के शौक को पूरा करने के लिए जोधपुर कलक्टर गौरव अग्रवाल कई अर्थशािस्त्रयों के आर्टिकल और उनकी किताबों को पढ़ते रहते हैं। हालांकि उनकी लिखित इंडियन इकोनॉमी किताब को भी वे अपडेट कर रहे हैं। उनका मानना है कि शौक पूरा करने का टाइम नहीं है तो वो काम व्यक्ति की प्राथमिकता में शामिल नहीं है। अग्रवाल ने राजस्थान पत्रिका के साथ अपने जीवन के कई अनछुए पहलुओं को साझा किया। उन्होंने बताया कि वे अपने आपको अपडेट करने के लिए अर्थशास्त्र के आर्टिकल पढ़ते रहते हैं। हाल ही आरबीआई के गवर्नर बने संजय मल्होत्रा का एक आर्टिकल मैंने मैग्जीन में पिछले साल पढ़ा था। तब वे रेवेन्यू सेक्रेटरी थे। वो आर्टिकल पढ़कर मैंने उन्हें बधाई दी तो उन्होंने कहा, नौकरी में आकर आर्टिकल कौन पढ़ता है। तो मैंने उन्हें कहा, आप लिखते हो तो हम पढ़ते हैं। मैं ऐसे रिसर्च पढ़ता रहता हूं।
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00:00You have a lot of routine. You read research papers, articles, books.
00:06What books do you read in your routine?
00:10As I told you, I have written a book.
00:16I have to update it. I don't want to edit it.
00:20For that, I have to do continuous research.
00:23You won't believe this.
00:25RBI Governor Sanjay Malhotra has published an article in Economic and Political Weekly.
00:33Economic and Political Weekly is the most reputable economic journal in our country.
00:41Last year, he published an article in EPW.
00:45He was the Revenue Secretary.
00:48He published an article on whether the tax to GDP ratio is appropriate or not.
00:54I read that article.
00:56After that, I congratulated him.
01:00He was very amazed that who reads this in his job.
01:05I told him that you write, so we will read.
01:10So, I read research papers.
01:15Sometimes, I read World Bank's report.
01:17Sometimes, I read NITI Aayog's report.
01:21Recently, there were many reports on your employment.
01:28RBI's reports were published.
01:30So, I read something or the other.
01:32Are there any particular books that you read?
01:36I read his books.
01:39I read the books of Prof. Amin Pangaria, the Chief of Finance Commission.
01:47I read the books of Prof. Amartya Sen and Prof. Raghuram Rajan.
01:54I read the books of both the sides.
01:58I read the books of both the sides.
02:06This is the age of social media.
02:08Do you share what you read, what you feel on blogs, Facebook or Twitter?
02:15Earlier, I used to write a blog.
02:19The name of my blog used to be Superman Nitans.
02:25After that, my blog broke down in the blink of an eye.
02:31Sometimes, I get an interesting insight.
02:37Sometimes, I use LinkedIn, which is a professional social media platform.
02:44Sometimes, I post on LinkedIn.
02:48I am not active on Facebook or Twitter.
02:51Everyone is active on Twitter.
02:54What about followers?
02:56Earlier, I used to have many followers.
03:00Now, with time, I don't have many followers.
03:06What do you mean by followers on social media?
03:09I have many followers on LinkedIn.
03:12When I was active on Facebook, I used to have many followers.
03:16I used to have thousands of followers.
03:19Sir, what is this distance?
03:22One thing is that we don't realize the importance of social media.
03:28It has a huge impact on our lives.
03:30I told you that people always fight on Twitter.
03:33If you keep fighting, your mindset will change.
03:38Social media is a part of your life.
03:45It is a part of your inner peace.
03:49I used to uninstall all the social media platforms.
03:54I couldn't uninstall WhatsApp.
03:56Because, I have to work on WhatsApp.
03:59I have to work on WhatsApp.
04:02Otherwise, I used to uninstall all the social media platforms.
04:06How do you spend time with your family?
04:08I have two small children in my family.
04:11My wife.
04:12My father lives in Jaipur.
04:14He comes here from time to time.
04:16My father has gone to Ayodhya.
04:18Today is his 21st birthday.
04:20So, he is celebrating his birthday today.
04:22My father also comes here from time to time.
04:24I play with my two children.
04:27Gradually, my children's studies have started getting better.
04:30How do you handle your children?
04:34I definitely have to give them time.
04:39How do you do that?
04:41I wake up early in the morning.
04:44My children are sleeping.
04:46When I come home at night, my children are sleeping.
04:49Sometimes, this happens.
04:52Or, my children go to school early in the morning.
04:55I am sleeping at that time.
04:57When I come home at night, my children are sleeping.
04:59Sometimes, this happens.
05:01It is important that whenever you get time,
05:05you should spend quality time with your children.
05:08You should be involved in your children's studies.
05:11You should explain concepts to your children.
05:14For example, my daughter is studying about square, perimeter, area, etc.
05:23My son is studying about spelling.
05:28I want to teach him how to make words with sound.
05:33Do you play scrabble with your children?
05:35Not scrabble, but sometimes I play carrom, chess.
05:39When you mentioned spelling, I thought you were playing with your children.
05:42I don't have scrabble, but it is a good idea.
05:44I buy scrabble.
05:46It will be very interesting with my children.
05:48Sometimes, I play chess with my children.
05:50I play carrom.
05:52I play outdoor games.
05:54I do some physical activities.
05:56What about your wife?
05:58My wife always complains that I don't give her time.
06:02I think this is common with all of you.
06:06All of you complain that you don't give her time.
06:09In many ways, there is truth.
06:12But, I try to give her time whenever I can.
06:16I try to give proper time to my family.
06:20If your wife is with you and you want to go shopping,
06:25how do you handle that situation?
06:30I had decided this before marriage that I don't want to go shopping.
06:39The biggest issue in going shopping is that
06:42if you go shopping,
06:44you see something, you like it, you buy it.
06:48It's not like you go to 10 places and buy it.
06:51When you are a collector,
06:53and you go shopping with your wife,
06:56people will recognize you.
07:00But, in such situations,
07:02I don't go quietly.
07:05I don't say anything.
07:07Do you change your car at that time?
07:09Yes, I change my car.
07:11As an IITian, what would you like to teach the youth?
07:16Mr. Suraj,
07:18I would like to give one message.
07:22The youth have a lot of anxiety.
07:28They have to choose their career.
07:31They have to make important decisions all their life.
07:36Naturally, they have a lot of anxiety.
07:39They have a lot of ups and downs in their life.
07:43When they grow up, their life becomes more or less settled.
07:47In the beginning, they have a lot of ups and downs.
07:50It happens in everyone's life.
07:52You should have resilience.
07:54You should have courage.
07:57No matter how many ups and downs you have in your life,
08:00you should have courage.
08:03No matter how bad the situation is,
08:06no matter how strong the tsunami is,
08:09it will go back to the sea.
08:12Time never stays the same.
08:14You should have a little sense of satisfaction.
08:17When you have to leave your life,
08:20you should not give up.
08:23You should have faith in yourself.
08:27You should work harder.
08:30You should work hard to prepare yourself for the future.
08:36I have been to IIT, IAS, and other places.
08:43I have always done well.
08:45But I have not always been good.
08:47I have failed in IIT.
08:49I have not even got my degree.
08:51When I was about to leave IIT for Computer Science,
08:54I did not have a job.
08:56I had a lot of problems.
08:58I used to tell my father that I have failed in one course.
09:01I used to fail in two courses.
09:03My father used to get worried that
09:05my father might get shocked.
09:11Basically, this is the kind of ups and downs you have to face.
09:16But you should have courage.
09:18You should work hard.
09:20There is a sort of default construct.
09:23If you get good marks in the 10th grade,
09:26you have to take Science.
09:28These are the default things.
09:30Some people have a specific choice.
09:33But if you have not thought much in life,
09:35and you get good marks in the 10th grade,
09:37you take Science.
09:38If you have a doctor's background,
09:40you take Biology.
09:41If not, you take Maths.
09:42You will become an engineer.
09:43If you are intelligent,
09:45you will get into IIT.
09:47This is the default construct.
09:50There is a popular question about public service.
09:53The environment in which we come from,
09:57in our part of the country,
09:59my grandparents,
10:02my grandparents,
10:03my parents,
10:04they all wanted me to go to IIT when I grew up.
10:08Okay.
10:09This is how the line changed.
10:13I took IIT.
10:15After I took IIT,
10:17I used to give IIT exams.
10:18But as I told you,
10:19I used to fail in IIT.
10:20My degree was extended.
10:22My degree was extended for 6 months.
10:24In such a situation,
10:26I used to think,
10:27where will I study?
10:30If I get a job,
10:32if I get a job,
10:33that was a big thing at that time.
10:35At that time, I was so scared
10:37that I could not give the exam.
10:39Then somehow,
10:40I got an IIM in Lucknow.
10:41I got an IIM in Lucknow.
10:44After that,
10:45I got a job in a city group in Hong Kong.
10:54That is one of the best jobs in the world.
10:56Who will leave him in his right mind?
10:59Right.
11:00IIM.
11:01Then I went there.
11:03I used to do trading there.
11:08I used to trade your currencies,
11:10derivatives,
11:11credit,
11:12equity,
11:13interest rates,
11:14etc.
11:15Central bank's actions
11:17and government policies
11:18were very influential
11:19on the financial markets.
11:21As you have seen,
11:22when Trump won,
11:23Donald Trump said
11:24that he will impose tariffs,
11:26etc.
11:27The market fluctuated.
11:30When you trade markets,
11:32you follow government policies
11:33and central bank's actions
11:34very closely.
11:35While doing that,
11:37gradually,
11:38I thought,
11:39let me get on the other side of the table.
11:41I am also in policy making.
11:44I worked there for 3 years.
11:47After that,
11:48I came to India
11:49and prepared for IAS.
11:50Again?
11:51Then IAS.
11:52In 2011,
11:53I left that job.
11:55Then I started preparing for IAS.
11:57My first attempt was in IPS.
11:59But actually,
12:00I wanted to do IAS.
12:01So,
12:02I gave another attempt.
12:03When was your first attempt in IPS?
12:05In 2013.
12:07And IAS?
12:08In 2014.
12:11In 2011,
12:13you were in Hong Kong.
12:15Yes.
12:16In City Group.