Mike Vrabel as a potential Patriots coaching option? Thoughts?
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00:00Uh, because he did not have much success, they are suggesting when it comes to Tennessee.
00:05Now I think he took that team to the playoffs three of his three of his six years.
00:11How long was he there for?
00:12Uh, yeah, I think it might've been twice, but I could be wrong.
00:17Uh, Tommy Curran, Curtis brought this up at the start of the show.
00:20We've talked about it a lot this morning.
00:22Suggest that Mike Vrabel, he has some sourcing on this would be interested in this job, right?
00:27Curtis.
00:28Yeah.
00:29I couldn't find the audio of it.
00:30So I've gone on the word of a savage on, on, on Twitter and it's been reposted all over
00:35the place.
00:36So Tommy, if you didn't say this, I apologize, but nonetheless, I, it, it is the right person
00:43at the right time and it is unfair to Mayo, but if it truly is the jets who I, according
00:50to all reports out of New York, Mike Vrabel is the number one choice by the jets to replace
00:55Robert Sala and Albrecht who's taken over.
00:57Yeah.
00:59Does Robert Kraft want to sit in his owner's suite for the rest of his time owning the
01:04Patriots competing against Mike Vrabel in his division?
01:08Or does he want to be indelicate, rude, unfair to Gerard Mayo?
01:14Or if you can think it's fair, that's fine.
01:15But does he want to go against his word to Gerard Mayo and move him out and bring Vrabel
01:21in?
01:22It's a tough spot.
01:23Which is a more intriguing opportunity for Mike Vrabel.
01:25If you just look at those two.
01:27I would say intriguing, meaning that what's more, um, desirous, desirable, I would say
01:32that the Patriots, yeah, the jets are a dumpster fire, by the way, complete side note has nothing
01:42to do with what we're talking about right now.
01:45You're both right about the final gift item, uh, when it comes to the 12 days of Christmas
01:51in 10 minutes, Curtis, you've outdone yourself re gifting on this.
01:55I, I mean, you know, I just try to please, I, this is, I wish you ran it by me first
02:02cause I would've kept it.
02:03Uh, so, okay.
02:05It is the number one gift you could give a Boston sports fan this Christmas.
02:10Yeah.
02:11By far.
02:12Yeah.
02:13Hands down.
02:14By far.
02:15Yeah.
02:16So it's sick.
02:17Like you.
02:18Uh, yeah.
02:19So anyway, three years.
02:20Yeah.
02:21Three years.
02:22He took them to the playoffs.
02:23Uh, three years in a row.
02:24He lost the championship, lost in the wild card and then lost in division.
02:27But this is more of a desirable place because I think when you start to look at the NFL,
02:32it is, it is really about the quarterback and it looks like you got it.
02:36You got the right guy.
02:37So if you're a Vrabel, you're probably saying, all right, Aaron Rogers, who might only have
02:42a year left, a year or two, a year or two at the most.
02:46And then Drake may, who's got 10, 12 years left.
02:50Is Chicago that same way though?
02:52Chicago is that same way?
02:53Looks at it.
02:54Yeah.
02:55Chicago is that same way because of the fact that you look at the quarterback situation,
02:59then you look at Vegas, you're going to probably be drafting a young guy.
03:02So do you want to deal with that?
03:04You look at the giants.
03:06Is there some sort of affinity when it comes to Vegas because of Tom Brady and his relationship
03:13with Mike Vrabel?
03:14That's good.
03:15That could, that's a good point because I saw a lot of stuff out there that supposedly
03:20Mark Davis, the owner of the Raiders is like going to tell Tom is basically saying to Tom,
03:26I want a lot of help when it comes to new coach, quarterback, all that stuff.
03:30So maybe Tom has a great relationship with Vrabel.
03:34He knows how he was as a player.
03:35I think he knows how he is as a coach.
03:37What better way to maybe hire a guy that you have confidence in?
03:41Would Vrabel want to work for Tom though?
03:44I don't think Vrabel would be bothered by it because I think Vrabel could have like
03:48real conversations with Tom.
03:50About like, oh, we should do this or we shouldn't do that when it comes to like free agency.
03:55And you said Vrabel was a good teammate.
03:56Like people all seem to like him.
03:58Yeah.
03:59Yeah.
04:00Everybody liked Vrabel.
04:01Vrabel, like he kept it real, you know, he kept it a hundred.
04:02He said what was on his mind.
04:03And I think that's kind of why it's because Tom's got to be looking at it like I'm going
04:10to be well and I'm going to be extremely involved in this kind of like the John Elway.
04:16So if you're Tom, don't you want to make sure your first time out the gate when it
04:22comes to your head coach is a guy that you know, know, right.
04:27And have a relationship, right.
04:29And so I think that if it's not, I heard Jones and keep talking about this yesterday.
04:34If it's not Mike Vrabel and they are making a change, like who else, you know, are you
04:41going to be able to get Ben Johnson?
04:44Like probably.
04:45Oh, you're saying for the Jets?
04:46No, Patriots.
04:47Oh, for the Patriots.
04:48Yeah.
04:49Oh, I don't know.
04:50I mean, I don't think you have.
04:52I would take either.
04:54And I, and as I said, I know that's probably not fair to Mayo, but Wiggy, we know where
04:58you stand on Mayo.
04:59And I think you make a lot of great points about the roster and all the things he inherited.
05:02Right.
05:03If you were Robert Kraft and you had the ability to hire Mike Vrabel this off season, would
05:09you do that and move on from Gerard Mayo?
05:13Oh man, I, it's, it's such a great question.
05:19You're going to get so much crap because you're going to be like really one and done.
05:25I think that obviously Vrabel is the better coach.
05:28Um, so yeah, I probably, if you're putting a gun to my head, I'd probably say, yeah,
05:33I'd go with Vrabel.
05:34Wow.
05:35Yeah.
05:36If you put it right.
05:37But you put yourself in.
05:38He's not, he's not an offensive minded coach and you don't really care about that.
05:43No.
05:44You have Drake May?
05:45No, because I'll just hire it.
05:46Like it's all about the coordinator that you're going to hire.
05:48Right.
05:49So if, if Mike Vrabel hires a good, do you have a chance of getting a better coordinator
05:53with Mike Vrabel as your head coach than you do with Gerard Mayo as your head coach?
05:56I think you do because you have, Vrabel has more of a network when it comes to people
06:01he can reach out to because he's been coaching longer than, than Mayo.
06:06He's been, he's been out and about in that world.
06:09So I would say he probably has more of a network, um, to get instant bump.
06:13I mean, this is the business part of it to be, do you get in a instant bump interest
06:18wise if you're Robert Kraft, when you hire Mike Vrabel, like, Oh, season ticket stuff.
06:22Translate.
06:23I don't think so.
06:24You don't.
06:25If you just get Mike Vrabel and you don't do anything with the actual team.
06:28I think Patriots fans eat that up.
06:30Oh, I don't know.
06:31I told you it was like, it was like, how many people have called saying, Greg, why are you?
06:35You're the only person that really wants Vrabel.
06:37I don't care about Vrabel.
06:38There's been so many people, whether it's on Twitch, text line or calling in saying
06:41that same thing.
06:42I think Vrabel would be great.
06:43I'm not saying that it's time to get rid of Gerard Mayo yet, but it's gotta be the players
06:48that are actually on the field to get Patriots fans back involved.
06:51No, we had this conversation.
06:53Look at the Chargers fans.
06:55Once they hired Hobart and you know, another place, look at the UNC fans.
07:00You don't think that they got a bump from hiring Bill Belichick?
07:02I mean, that is a completely different, did BC get a bump from hiring Billy O'Brien?
07:08Yeah.
07:09Right.
07:10So, so no, because when you're talking college versus the pros, no, no, but I'm talking about
07:13a coach that already has a name.
07:16You don't think it legitimizes the operation?
07:21Here's what I would say.
07:22Let's pick a team out there right now.
07:24Let's say Jacksonville, say Jacksonville hired John Gruden.
07:28Is that your favorite team?
07:30Of course.
07:31Yeah.
07:32You don't think that the Jacksonville would get a bump from fans if they hired John Gruden?
07:36Yeah.
07:38I mean, and Vrabel has that type of cachet.
07:41I agree with you if it's Ben Johnson or if it's Bobby Schlowick, but when it's an established
07:46guy with a name, guys like Hobart, guys like Vrabel, a guy like, um, when Denver hired
07:53Sean Payton, fans got instant bump.
07:56They had a chance, text Subaru of New England text line, had a chance to get Vrabel last
08:01year.
08:02What makes you think that the crafts would change?
08:04I see.
08:05That's why I don't think they don't.
08:06I don't think they even considered Vrabel because they had already promised contractually
08:10the job to Gerard Mayo.
08:11Right.
08:12And that, but that's why I believe that, which was dumb.
08:14It is dumb.
08:15And I don't disagree with you, but they are.
08:17It's almost like you, you've kind of, you, you like, you know, that whole saying you,
08:22you lying in your bed or you made your bed.
08:24Now you got to lie in it.
08:25I almost look at it where they made the mistake by saying it was Mayo.
08:30Now they have to go down this road for at least two years.