👉 En Pinamar se ha destapado un escándalo de estafa inmobiliaria. La empresa Pinamar Sociedades Anónimas ofrecía lotes en áreas comunes como propiedades privadas en un barrio residencial que construyeron. Los residentes del barrio, están luchando contra lo que describen cómo el poder omnipresente de la empresa en la ciudad.
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00:00You tell us how this scam starts in one of the most paradisiacal places on our Atlantic coast, there in Pinamar.
00:06What did they promise you? How much money did they put in? And what is the reality today?
00:13Look, Pinamar Sociedad Anónima is a company that insignifies Pinamar because it is the creator of a town,
00:19I would say the Joe family. They have invented what Pinamar is.
00:23It was a forest, and today it is everything you see.
00:26In 2002-2003, they decided to make a private neighborhood that was marketed as the first and only private neighborhood in Pinamar.
00:34And well, it started as a business. In the first years, the sale of the land did not move much.
00:40From 2008-2010, but especially in 2010, the neighborhood started to float.
00:48It started to sell, it started to develop, they started to build houses, it got nice as you can see today.
00:55Almost 20 years have passed since then, since the neighborhood started.
01:00And what did we start to see, particularly in 2020, with the pandemic?
01:06First, I found out that it was not a neighborhood.
01:08And I said, but you are a lawyer, how did you not realize it? How did you not know?
01:12That's why I say that my Scositorto was encouraged so much, because here, this scam,
01:18to sell a neighborhood that was not a neighborhood.
01:20In other words, it was not a closed neighborhood, it was not like an urbanization camp.
01:24It was a place with a business, with barriers, with wire.
01:28But it is a neighborhood, like any neighborhood in the province of Buenos Aires,
01:32because the provincial and municipal legislation of that time prevented the development of a private neighborhood on the coast.
01:39We know that now, obviously.
01:42And these people marketed it like that in the media, on the page of the municipality,
01:47they marketed it as a private neighborhood.
01:49And I could not do it, it is not.
01:52We found out that it was not a neighborhood.
01:55Why did we find out?
01:56Because these people not only sold something that was not, that was a neighborhood that was not,
02:01but in 2020 they communicate to the neighbors the desire of the sports areas,
02:06of what this private neighborhood would be, to sell them.
02:11That is, they wanted to lot them and make more lots than what would be the football field, the tennis court,
02:16the amenities of the neighborhood, taking advantage of the fact that obviously there was no more land to sell,
02:21that the neighborhood was all developed, that obviously the value of the land was not the same as that of 2020,
02:26the same as that of 2002.
02:28They came up with the idea of commercializing it and selling it.
02:31That's where I got the news that this was happening and that I had a neighborhood,
02:35and that they had swindled us all.
02:37And recently I said, why did my exhibitor get so excited?
02:40Because here they made it documented.
02:42Here they made a contract with all the formalities of the contract.
02:46In that contract they said that this is a private neighborhood.
02:50We who buy, buy and write the lots on our behalf, as it corresponds.
02:56But the public writing says that it is a neighborhood, it refers to an internal regulation,
03:01it refers to everything the same as any private neighborhood in Argentina.
03:05Therefore, why doubt that this is a private neighborhood, if apart you saw it there,
03:09neighborhood 20 years ago.
03:11Now, knowing that this is not a neighborhood,
03:14you start looking and you are going to look at the municipal licenses that do not exist,
03:18the provincial approvals that do not exist,
03:21and those brothers of justice,
03:23you find that they tell you, no, look, we in the sports area always think about retail.
03:28And you say, how do you always say that?
03:30You didn't sell it to me, you told me you were going to sell it to someone else.
03:32Now, excuse me, Diego, what you bought, does that exist and belong to you?
03:38Yes, yes, yes.
03:39My house is mine, the one of all our neighbors, because we write the lot.
03:44But we write that lot like any lot in the province of Buenos Aires.
03:48Yes, but they come with amenities.
03:50Without belonging to a neighborhood.
03:51The problem is the amenities.
03:53Entering the page now of the project, already developed, it says,
03:57iconic neighborhood with four lakes that adorn the landscape,
04:00polo courts, epic center, club.
04:03All this is now being looted or part of this?
04:06No, it is not being looted because we, Mercedes,
04:09precisely, letters, documents and legal action, we prevent them.
04:13What is it that they are now advancing?
04:15They want to evict us, the neighbors of the sports areas,
04:19that we have been maintaining, like in any neighborhood,
04:21for both pensions.
04:22And they say they want to evict us from all public spaces.
04:26Give you an idea of this.
04:27Look, for people it is easier, the one who lives in a department,
04:30in the capital, to sell it.
04:32Someone comes and makes a building.
04:34When you make the building, you sell the functional units to the people
04:38and then, when they finish selling the functional units,
04:41you have the elevator, you have the stairs, you have the hall,
04:44you have a terrace, you will have a grill if you are lucky,
04:48you will have a tennis court in the complex.
04:51All these common areas, like any, in this case it is a faithful permit,
04:55when they finish selling the units,
04:57all that goes to the hands of the neighborhood association,
05:00the consortium, which is the one who manages it,
05:03because that cannot be sold, it has no commercial value.
05:06Well, these people grabbed the elevator and said,
05:08I'll sell it to you now.
05:09The tennis court is no longer a tennis court,
05:11I'm going to make another apartment there.
05:12Doctor, sorry, two very interesting facts arise here.
05:15The first is, they were so lucky that no owner in 20 years
05:19realized that the facilities in the municipality
05:23were not as they should be.
05:26No, what happens is that when you go to buy,
05:29first you sign a ticket, then you write,
05:32and you look at the writing and everything is in order.
05:34Everything that says is in order.
05:36You are not going to look for the contract of the faithful permit
05:38that they registered in an office or in the province.
05:41When 15 years later they tell you,
05:44I'm going to lot the football field,
05:46you say, how am I going to lot?
05:48Yes, because it's mine.
05:49And that's where the art begins.
05:51And the private side, the public side,
05:53nobody in the municipality realized
05:55that there was a private neighborhood
05:58and that it came as a private neighborhood.
06:00It had never been authorized as a private neighborhood
06:03by the municipality.
06:05Worse, worse.
06:06The municipality, the official page of the municipality
06:09promoted this.
06:11The municipality and the deliberative council of Pinamar
06:13in 2002, 2003, 2005, 2010, 2011.
06:17And why do I tell you this date?
06:19Because we have them certified by the private court
06:21and presented in the criminal cause.
06:23The municipality promoted this as a private neighborhood.
06:27Pinamar has been a political disaster.
06:30Remember the time when there were no tenants?
06:34Ten years, a year, a month, a day.
06:38And these are the owners of Pinamar.
06:40Diego, these common spaces, this sports area,
06:43how was the use of you?
06:45Were you as partners?
06:46Were the expenses included?
06:48Or did they charge you because you rented the field
06:51or was it a rental?
06:52Because you saw that there are different styles
06:53also in Barrio Cerrado.
06:54No, no.
06:55You know that all the spaces,
06:57because we were talking, look at the madness of this.
06:59They set up the neighborhood,
07:01set up the rules,
07:03set up the writings,
07:04set up the legal documentation, everything.
07:06They set up a neighbor association
07:08because when this started there were no neighbors.
07:10They set it up and the neighbors
07:12were taking over little by little.
07:13In the first years there were 10, 15 neighbors
07:16and today there are 300.
07:17Yes.
07:18They set up all that.
07:19And the neighbor association became administrative.
07:22How did they manage it?
07:23They collected expenses, we paid them all.
07:25And with what is collected,
07:26the maintenance of those places is paid
07:28as in any neighborhood.
07:30Nothing different.
07:31The difference is that they tell me
07:33that land, that property is ours
07:36and we do what we want
07:37as much as you manage it.
07:39In addition, I take out the administration
07:41and I don't want to sell it.
07:42In some way, about that,
07:43the romance is what they want and intend to do.
07:46Now...
07:47What did we do?
07:48Yes.
07:53Diego, let's see,
07:54because the people,
07:56this Pinamar Sociedad Anónima that I understand
07:58has names and surnames.
07:59They are educated people
08:01with a recognition at the real estate level.
08:04What did they think?
08:05That this was not going to come to light?
08:18This is a feud.
08:19If you don't develop yourself commercially,
08:22real estate-wise,
08:23or build in Pinamar,
08:24yes, you are wrong about Pinamar.
08:26You are the owners of the land.
08:27Go and try to make a business in Pinamar
08:29fought with Pinamar.
08:30It's impossible.
08:32They handled it like a feud, always.
08:34They never thought
08:35they were going to have a problem with this
08:37because they said,
08:38the plots are ours,
08:39we do what we want
08:40because it always worked.
08:42That is to say,
08:43this that is happening to us,
08:45that they have announced it,
08:47because they are swindlers,
08:50because this is a scam,
08:51is something they never imagined
08:52was going to happen.
08:53In Pinamar,
08:54no one gets along with Pinamar.
08:56Let's say,
08:57the municipalities,
08:59the tenants are going through
09:01a disaster.
09:02There was never a tenant.
09:03Until the last two sessions
09:05when there was an alternation of tenants,
09:08they handled it like a feud.
09:10But they handled it that way.
09:12It gives the feeling that
09:13now they have several people on their hands
09:16and they are not going to stand still.
09:18And you know what happens?
09:19The neighborhood is no more than that.
09:20We are 625.
09:21The neighborhood of lawyers, accountants,
09:23businessmen, promoters.
09:25Pinamar S.A. says,
09:26founder of the city of Pinamar.
09:28The company.
09:29That is,
09:30the company is above
09:32what the city itself is,
09:34the authorities,
09:35or everything that makes up
09:37the elected authorities,
09:40police,
09:41jury,
09:42they put themselves above
09:43as founders
09:45celebrating 80 years of urbanism.
09:47We are imagining that
09:48the fight is here
09:49directly against the power
09:51of Pinamar itself,
09:52or not?
09:53Do not doubt it.
09:54Do not doubt that it is so.
09:55The tenants go through,
09:56the police chiefs go through,
09:58the fire department goes through,
09:59but they are always there.
10:00And they were,
10:01they are,
10:02and they will continue to be.
10:03Because every tree we have in Pinamar,
10:05every piece of land you see
10:07that is not built is theirs.
10:08Sure.
10:09And it will only be built
10:10the day they want to sell
10:11that piece of land.
10:13I do not criticize that
10:14the owners and inventors
10:15have been those,
10:16but it is over.
10:18Yes, but wait, wait.
10:19One thing is that,
10:21respect the ancient
10:22of the family,
10:23and another thing,
10:24that they screw you.
10:25Exactly.
10:26No?
10:27Exactly.
10:28That's why we made the decision,
10:29the neighbors of the neighborhood,
10:30that as you know,
10:31it is no longer
10:32about this neighborhood.
10:33The neighborhood is
10:34of all of us who are there.
10:35There are 100 families
10:36who live there.
10:37There is another problem,
10:38look,
10:39I didn't mention it to you.
10:40We found out
10:41very recently
10:42that the streets
10:43of the neighborhood
10:44are public.
10:45What does it mean
10:46that they are public?
10:47We are maintaining the streets.
10:48We pay expenses
10:49because they are streets
10:50of land and sand.
10:51Internal.
10:52Yes.
10:53It is a permanent maintenance.
10:54It is not a private neighborhood.
10:55We maintain them
10:56and they are public streets.
10:57Sure.
10:58They are municipal.
10:59Anyone can walk around there
11:00and they didn't sell us that.
11:01We pay for a private neighborhood.
11:02And now, Diego,
11:03I say, right?
11:04There is a diagonal
11:05that exists
11:06between what you ask
11:07and what they believe
11:08they are
11:09and the rights.
11:10Or is it,
11:11or did I return the money,
11:12you deceived me,
11:13give me the field,
11:14give me the amenities
11:15or nothing,
11:16I go to justice
11:17until I don't know,
11:18until they go to jail.
11:19I don't know.
11:20Look,
11:21you know what I think,
11:22because this question
11:23we ask ourselves first
11:24the lawyers
11:25who are in charge
11:26of this.
11:27How does this end?
11:28The reality is that
11:29we don't understand
11:30how they have dared
11:31to do this
11:32if it is not
11:33to think
11:34that they are
11:35the ones
11:36who are going to
11:37go to jail.
11:38If it is not
11:39to think
11:40that it is an idea
11:41of absolute impunity
11:42that they have
11:43because legally
11:44they have no possibility
11:45that they will go well.
11:46They are right.
11:47The documents are there.
11:48That's why
11:49I go back to my
11:50exposition
11:51of the animals.
11:52They did it documentally.
11:53The contracts
11:54that say
11:55they are not right.
11:56Justice grabs it,
11:57reads it,
11:58denounces it,
11:59looks at it
12:00and we are not
12:01saying something
12:02that is a sacrifice.
12:03It occurred to us
12:04because no,
12:05it is undocumented.
12:06I don't see
12:07any possibility
12:08that they can
12:09carry forward
12:10what they want to do
12:11but obviously
12:12violate the law.
12:13And Diego,
12:14you are talking
12:15about this neighborhood
12:16where you are part of.
12:17Are there others
12:18who started to tell you
12:19hey look,
12:20the same thing happened to me,
12:21I have a similar situation.
12:22And look,
12:23this was the first
12:24neighborhood in Pinamar.
12:25That's how they sold it
12:26and in fact
12:27that's how it was
12:28until three or four years ago
12:29they made a very small neighborhood
12:30next door
12:31called Pioneros
12:32that they sold everything.
12:33And there are other
12:34much bigger
12:35neighborhoods
12:36in Pinamar
12:37that we call
12:38Bosques
12:39that are exactly
12:40the same.
12:41The legal regime
12:42is the same
12:43because they haven't
12:44changed it.
12:45I am not part
12:46of those neighborhoods.
12:47What I know
12:48from neighbors
12:49who have bought
12:50lots is that
12:51the legal system
12:52is not only the same,
12:53that is,
12:54nothing is the same,
12:55but there they have
12:56signed
12:57huge contracts
12:58demanding responsibility
12:59to Pinamar,
13:00that you can't
13:01judge them,
13:02that you can't
13:03deny that you know
13:04what's going on.
13:05I see that
13:06they saw
13:07what happened
13:08in Larradura,
13:09they saw what
13:10we are legally
13:11claiming
13:12and there they want
13:13to take care of it
13:14supposedly making
13:15mention that
13:16people can't
13:17ignore that
13:18that neighborhood
13:19that they are living
13:20in is not a neighborhood.
13:21They are implicitly
13:22recognizing that
13:23we are being scammed.
13:24Because even there
13:25they are made to sign
13:26a clause
13:27that whoever
13:28buys a lot
13:29in that neighborhood
13:30gives up
13:31making actions
13:32for any claim
13:33to be made.
13:34Instead of
13:35fixing things
13:36as they should,
13:37they have dedicated
13:38themselves to doing
13:39this kind of
13:40strange things.
13:41Diego,
13:42we promise to continue
13:43with the topic
13:44and at your disposal
13:45all the victims.
13:46Thank you very much
13:47to everyone
13:48and well,
13:49we are here
13:50to inform
13:51what is going to happen.