Marcos stirs a divided mess on Instagram after the Miami Dolphins and Odell Beckham Jr. mutually agree to part ways... OBJ is looking for a bigger role elsewhere, Tobin and Leroy quibble about Odell Beckham Jr.'s potential as a Dolphin. Frog boy continues to defend his point that OBJ built his career off one catch.
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00:00You know, um, it's, it is tough because you have an athlete who you enjoy watching so
00:08much over the years and, and, you know, you have this South Florida connection, you know,
00:16but there is so much drama that surrounds him and you never know with the, the social
00:21media stuff and, and, and how it's going to go and the sensitivity to it all.
00:28You know, we're always going to have the great moments, but, you know, I was
00:32really hoping that we could see all of this through and to know that this
00:40breakup seemed inevitable, but now that it's here, it's, uh, it's tough.
00:47And so I can't believe that I have to bring the South Florida sports fan.
00:52The news that Odell Beckham jr.
00:55Is no longer a Miami dolphin.
01:04And Leroy is going to bring you another PSA and that is for
01:11the time still undefeated.
01:15They like, well, what are you guys?
01:17Like I say this all the time.
01:19And for some reason, if you like the guy, you think he go for the time, go miss him.
01:25And if you hate the guy for the time, go get him earlier.
01:28Well, can we talk about this?
01:29But the fact that when I was out one summer, that this guy, one week, this
01:32summer, that frog boys spent an entire week campaigning for this.
01:36Yes.
01:39We wait.
01:41Yeah.
01:42Marcos, did we not fight every day about this?
01:47Hard to say every day.
01:49Every day.
01:50And what I said was, is that I don't care how much it costs.
01:57The third wide receiver with all the guys that you had, keep in
02:00mind, great craft, he had the new guys that you brought, like, what
02:05is that money going to get you?
02:07I don't know.
02:08But, uh, the thing is funny is the first thing that he did was go and
02:12dance on Odell's dolphin grave, right?
02:15No Instagram account, the guy, the guy who wanted him here.
02:20Wow.
02:23It's really tough to say it was a long summer.
02:26No, it wasn't.
02:28If you guys had the clips, I'd be willing to, uh, can I just tell you, you came in
02:35hot, you, you, that was your, that was your signing of the summer, right?
02:44And I can't put a life in me, figure out that the guy who wanted him so bad was
02:53the first guy to go scorched earth on him.
02:56He goes built a career off of one catch SMH in the NFL comments, which he has,
03:03this has gone viral in the comments.
03:05Cause he's got 6,188 likes agreeing with him, but he's also upset
03:12because he's got about 130 people.
03:17Just mad at him for saying such a thing about a, a long time NFL star.
03:24It's it's ridiculous that he said that because that is not, it is ridiculous.
03:32It's not true at all, but here's the key.
03:34How was it not true at all?
03:35Leroy.
03:36It's not, how was it not true?
03:38Look at his numbers.
03:39He legitimately like changed how receivers want to catch.
03:44Like he made that cool.
03:46So, but, but that's not even, that's not even that is that we get to this
03:52point with all athletes who were aging, all of them, he's been aging, but he's
04:02but injuries make that process, you know, a little, you know, makes it more
04:10difficult, but the fact that if we take any of our old athletes, any guy that's
04:19been in the league for a while, we do the same thing and you don't like it.
04:29It's a shame that you, if you play a certain type of football, when you're 25,
04:40for some asinine reason, folks think that you're supposed to play like that till
04:45you're 40, can I just make one counterpoint to all this?
04:49Cause I know everybody's just kind of mad at the dolphins and they're like,
04:51yeah, they're fine with the decision.
04:53Cause Malik Washington seems like he's coming on.
04:55Can I just, I just have a kernel of worry that I just like to throw out
04:59there because I know that all of us got to open up some spaces.
05:02Seems like some guys are coming back, but is there a number one receiver not
05:07playing with a wrist that's dangling by a thread, like, is this the smartest
05:12thing in the world to just get rid of what essentially could be an insurance
05:15policy because he says that he wants a bigger opportunity.
05:18Like if you have a guy, if your star receiver is banged up, shouldn't
05:22you kind of keep on the Odell just in case, but you're here's the, here's
05:28the assumption that you're making.
05:32Okay.
05:34You're making the assumption that if Odell got more opportunities, he would be
05:41better.
05:42No, I'm not assuming anything.
05:44I'm just saying Leroy, hear me out.
05:46I'm just saying, this is my one counter to it.
05:50This is an offense.
05:51That's very hard to learn.
05:52We've seen receivers try and come in here and make grave mistakes.
05:56It's it's ended in disaster.
05:58And Tyree kill has told you all year that he's playing on this thing
06:02that might need surgery.
06:04And so, you know, just, I'm just saying in this sport, one guy, we've
06:07seen this with the quarterback.
06:08One guy gets tripped up.
06:11Should you have let it, like, what do we got a month left in the season?
06:14Like, I don't really see the, I don't see the, the, the, the, the upside of it.
06:18Why not keep them there just in case?
06:21Cause football, because, because even just in case wasn't contributing, even
06:28just in case wasn't good enough, even just in case they thought they had
06:33somebody who could do those things.
06:35That's why the, just in case doesn't matter.
06:38Okay.
06:39I get it.
06:40You want some type of security.
06:42You know, you have a veteran presence in the line, but have you seen
06:46him running routes and catching balls?
06:48He hasn't looked impressive.
06:50Okay.
06:50He hasn't looked at somebody else that's coming on.
06:54I can do that.
06:54You have guys coming back like to, to make this like, man, like here's
07:03what we do with, with older players.
07:05Oh, well he can give us a little bit.
07:08They see him every day.
07:09Maybe he can't.
07:12We've seen him run routes.
07:13We've seen him take a stab at the ball.
07:16That ain't Odell.
07:17That ain't the Odell.
07:18We know what we think we're going to get.
07:20I get it.
07:21He's not the guy that he used to be.
07:22And certainly go ahead and say, wait, here's the thing.
07:28Here's the thing that people say, okay, but 30 or 50% Odell
07:34is better than what we have.
07:37No, I'm saying if we end up with zero of cheetah, who are we going to?
07:42Like, we're going to just, you think, okay.
07:44So if you have zero cheetah, you think if you didn't put Odell Beckham in
07:47there, that that's going to suffice, they're telling you, no.
07:51Okay.
07:52Well, are they telling me no?
07:53Or is he upset because Odell has been a bit of a, you know, a drama
07:57case, his whole career, and he was sick of getting no opportunities.
07:59And he was down on the depth chart.
08:01You've seen him when he goes into games.
08:04What did he do?
08:07He caught that slant one time.
08:09Then there you go.
08:11They get five catches this whole season.
08:14I think he had nine, nine, 55 yards.
08:17Ah, man.
08:20Listen, do you understand what you are saying?
08:27I don't see what the big deal of the keeping.
08:29I don't, I really like, I think that the whole thing is see, like, I feel like
08:34it's kind of one of these things where it feels like they're trying to, I guess
08:38do, I'm sure do right by him in some ways, you know, him, Mike McDaniel sold
08:42them on coming here and all right.
08:44Like, here's what happened.
08:45You have these two-star receivers.
08:46Johnny Smith has turned out to be a sensation.
08:49So you're at best for Malik Washington has come along.
08:52He's, you know, now going to, so now he's fifth.
08:55I'm just saying football happens.
08:57We can go into this week.
08:58And like, what if cheetah ends up having something happen to that
09:02wrist and he's not good to go?
09:04Like you don't, he's still going to be playing the same amount of time.
09:07He's playing based on what he's done.
09:09What are we going to put back out there?
09:11Who worked out for you last time here, you're, you're thinking of the name
09:19they're thinking, and I'm seeing the production, he doesn't look like the
09:27Odell you think you have in your mind.
09:30No, but I, but I, okay.
09:32I'm not expecting the Odell in my mind.
09:33I'm literally talking about an insurance policy.
09:37Like what if he can't play what good is an insurance policy?
09:40But he's also, but Leroy, there's also guys who are just
09:43playing way better than him.
09:43I'm saying, what if you lose one of those guys, one of those guys?
09:47That's my point.
09:48You're making my point for me.
09:50If you have to go all the way down to five or six and you have guys
09:54returning, then what good is that?
09:56You don't have guys returning.
09:58Like this, that's the case.
10:00I'm saying like the, I mean, granted both the last time that he was out there,
10:03he lost a game for the dolphins.
10:06No, that's, that's what, and he's even down the list.
10:11But, but like Chita doesn't seem like he's going to miss him because it's
10:15hard not to feel like this was a subtle jab at him, uh, or he's just a troll.
10:19I don't know, but it was said in the reports that they were looking at,
10:23but you know, Odell and the dolphins mutually parted ways.
10:26Cause Odell wanted a place with more opportunities and sure.
10:30Thereafter, uh, soon thereafter, Tyree killed, tweeted, take
10:34advantage of your opportunity.
10:35Right?
10:36Like, but, but, but it's not here.
10:40You can look at it two ways.
10:42He could have been talking about what he did with the dolphins, or he
10:45could have been talking about, go ahead, player, you know, take advantage of it.
10:49I don't know what he's doing, but, uh, okay.
10:52All right, fine.
10:54But I'm just like, dude, we have to stop doing this.
11:00Like what?
11:03If Odell had to play a whole football game, could he help this team win?
11:11That's the point.
11:13That's the point.
11:15You're looking at what week you're in and you're still saying, I don't know.
11:21Okay.
11:22But like, again, it's just my, my whole point of it is like, you're not getting
11:27anything for him and there's no consequence.
11:29You already, you know, he's not going to hit his incentives.
11:31So I'm just saying if, if God forbid something happens this week and you need
11:36for the last three games, somebody with some experience sums up.
11:40What if John O'smith gets hurt?
11:41What if Tyree kill gets hurt?
11:43This is an offense we've seen.
11:44Like, it's not easy to just pick up on the fly.
11:47What part of it?
11:50I'm confused here.
11:52What part of he might not be able to play that still makes you think he can be
12:00an insurance policy going and play.
12:03Yeah, but he has three guys that are really good in front of him.
12:07So based on what you saw out of Odell Beckham, you're telling me if he had
12:17more reps, he would be better.
12:20That's obviously not.
12:21I don't understand why you think I'm arguing that's all that matters.
12:24It's not like, hold on one second, Leroy, hold on, hold on, dude.
12:32We, we, one of the things that ruined the dolphins this season is they
12:36legitimately didn't have anybody who could run the offense when Tua went down.
12:41Correct.
12:42Okay.
12:43All I'm saying is this cost the dolphins, nothing.
12:46He's already there.
12:48And last year, I don't know if you remember this, they lost both of their
12:52pass rushers and had to sign dudes off the street.
12:55So all I'm saying is the, I agree with you.
12:59He ain't what he is.
13:00He very clearly came into the season, more banged up.
13:03All I'm saying is, wait a minute.
13:05You're just letting him go because he wants more opportunity, but God
13:10forbid something happens to one of your top three guys, and then I'm relying
13:13on who a rookie and a Packers practice water, but you're, you're still
13:20making the assumption he can play.
13:25Above those guys.
13:26No, you still, you're still.
13:29You're you're making an argument that if he got more opportunity, he would be
13:37able to outperform the guys that would have to come in and play.
13:41And I'm telling you father time doesn't work like that.
13:47He might not be able to play.
13:50Okay.
13:50That's why this becomes easier.
13:54Yeah.
13:54And I think also just the Nate, like he wants, he wants more of a chance
13:58you think he's going to get a chance somewhere else.
14:00Oh, for sure.
14:01Someone's going to pick him up.
14:03Okay.
14:03Okay.
14:04And then what if he doesn't then what I don't know, I guess I was wrong, but I
14:08think that somebody will pick him up.
14:09Okay.
14:10All right.
14:12There you go.
14:14I'm telling you, we take, we take great players all the time and when they get
14:20later on in their career, we make the assumption that they can help not be able
14:27to physically play.
14:29Did you see last night though?
14:30What happened with the, uh, the 49ers?
14:32Yeah.
14:32Guy walked off cause he thought, cause he's like, oh, you guys are replacing
14:36with the guy whose job I had all year.
14:38And then that guy got hurt.
14:40And then all of a sudden, oh, now you want me.
14:41And he walked off.
14:42I was crazy.
14:44Yeah.
14:44Who are the most notorious guys to do that?
14:46Vontae Davis and Antonio Brown.
14:48Antonio Brown.
14:49Nobody did like Vontae.
14:51And Vontae retired.
14:52He was done.
14:52Yeah.
14:52Um, Vontae did have time.
14:54Rest in peace.
14:56Um, I would say that Antonio Brown, he was cuckoo for cocoa puffs.
15:06So you don't know where his mind was.
15:09And I don't really know what the mindset of this guy, I like, I don't see.
15:17I, I try to think if there was ever a time that I would do something like that.
15:26And you get caught up, caught up in the game so much that I would always say,
15:33oh, you put, like, I remember one time I gave a perfect example.
15:38It was preseason.
15:41Preseason.
15:41We talking about preseason.
15:43And I had just come off a year where I was, I think, alternate to pro bowl.
15:51And the very next year I got hurt and I limped for the whole year.
15:57I had a partial tear and I just, I didn't get the surgery and I
16:02limped all year I played with a brace.
16:04That following off season, they drafted Tommy Vardell, right?
16:10Old TD, Tommy.
16:11Old TD, Tommy.
16:12So when we go through camp and everything, I'm back or
16:14whatever, I'm back, ready to go.
16:18They play Tommy in the first half.
16:21And then they play me like I'm a rookie.
16:23They're playing the second in the second half.
16:26Now I'm hot.
16:28I'm mad simply because like the rookies play second half.
16:32That's just the way it goes.
16:33But because they drafted Tommy ninth, they moved me back after,
16:39you know, the couple of years I had.
16:40So I'm hot.
16:42I remember running the ball one time.
16:45And Bill looked over at me, say, that's the way to run the ball.
16:50And I may have said some things, but I ain't come out.
16:53I was just mad.
16:54I wanted the football.
16:57Also, but also that's the same year, the very first couple of weeks
17:05of the season, Tommy got hurt.
17:08So then they put me in.
17:10And I ended up going to Pro Bowl that year.
17:13Can we just agree that I'm sorry about this argument?
17:15It's frog boys fault in the first place.
17:17He wanted Odell.
17:19He wanted him here.
17:20And now he dances on his grave for me, for me, this argument has always
17:26been the same with Marcos and with you.
17:32And we have this argument about various players all the time.
17:37And that argument is you get so caught up in the name that you
17:43don't realize that these guys are getting old and it's not the same
17:49person and you expect the same person.
17:52And we have this argument about other players and it's not a knock on the
17:58player, it's just that father time is undefeated and you may see the same
18:04player, you may see the same, but that player has learned how to do it.
18:12Differently to be productive, but when it ends and it ends with everybody,
18:19when it ends, if you let it get to that point, it always ends like Marcos.
18:26Talking about Odell, put another name on the player there.
18:32Everybody does it the same way.
18:35I'll give you another perfect example.
18:37Chris Carter in Miami.
18:39Oh, that's my point.
18:42When you're trying to Chris car, Chris car, it was in year like 15.
18:47What the hell did you think you were going to get?
18:49The hands were in year 15, but that's my point.
18:53What's the difference between Chris Carter and Odell Beckham?
18:58Uh, other than name and fame.
19:00A speed school in Boca, but, but that's when you understand what I'm saying.
19:06You guys do this with players in sports and I'm, and I am the first person
19:11to tell you, because I went through it.
19:13The only thing that I didn't do is I wasn't that guy that was on that team
19:18that got what you guys are with Marcos is given Odell.
19:24I didn't go that route.
19:26I knew how my body felt and I was honest with myself.
19:29So yes, this happens all the time.
19:32You guys see the star, the name, what the guy has been, and that's who you want
19:38playing, but that ain't the guy that's showing up.
19:41Thanks a lot.
19:42Froggy.
19:44I sucked.
19:44Not my fault.
19:45It's your fault.
19:46You wanted to meet him.
19:48You know, he's, you know, he's going to be a hall of famer, right?
19:51What?
19:52No, okay.
19:52This is right with DeMar DeRozan.
19:54I looked at his numbers.
19:55He has less receiving yards in Ted game.
19:58No, he's less receiving yards in my call.
20:00There's no way that's true.
20:01No, I swear to God.
20:02There's no way that's true.
20:03That's no way that I don't believe you.
20:06Let's look up the numbers.