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00:00What was your first reaction when you saw the press release?
00:31The second part of the press release is about PTI.
00:36You have said that we will see the evidence in the press release.
00:43It will be very critical because Fawad is a political party.
00:47You will have to make sure that the evidence is incontrovertible.
00:56All the cases that have been filed against Imran Khan and PTI,
01:04it is clear that the evidence is incontrovertible.
01:07The issue now is that Pakistan's politics is in turmoil.
01:14You and I cannot decide whether we want to normalize Pakistan's politics.
01:26The people in power will make the first decision.
01:31You and I cannot decide.
01:33What did you see in the last year?
01:37Look at what happened in the last two years.
01:40There were a lot of criticism in Pakistan.
01:42But Imran Khan…
01:44But if you look at what has been evident in the last two years,
01:50it is that we cannot talk to Imran Khan.
01:52Imran Khan has always been where he is.
01:56In all this time, Mian Nawaz Sharif has left Pakistan.
02:00People's leaders have left.
02:02This is the problem.
02:03He has come out of slippers.
02:04The issue is that to bring down Imran Khan,
02:08or to bring him down,
02:10or to end his political position,
02:13PTI was terminated.
02:15To terminate PTI, People's Party and Noon were terminated.
02:19Because they terminated their politics.
02:22Secondly, you had to terminate Judiciary.
02:27You started with anti-terrorism courts,
02:29then went to the High Court,
02:30then you terminated the Supreme Court in the 26th Amendment.
02:33In Pakistan, political, administrative and judicial
02:37is not such a big crisis in Pakistan's 76 years of history.
02:41I am sure that the people who are ruling,
02:45I and you have the advantage,
02:48we have been watching the governments for many years.
02:50This is what is said there, sir.
02:52Everything is fine.
02:54Even now, I think, the situation will be,
02:56I am guessing,
02:58that we have terminated Imran Khan's street power.
03:01He has no status left.
03:03People don't come out.
03:04People don't come out.
03:05They say that they are left alone.
03:06The party is fighting.
03:07So, the vote is there.
03:09We have not come from the vote.
03:10We have not come from the vote before.
03:11We will see when it comes.
03:13For now, we will wait and see.
03:16To give human rights.
03:18To give human rights.
03:19This is what is going on.
03:20But there is a problem in this.
03:22The problem is that,
03:24I will tell you this in PTI as well.
03:27Pakistan has a big loss in terminating the Noon League and People's Party politics.
03:32Three party system is a good system.
03:34Good system.
03:35It was a system of checks and balances.
03:36And what is its advantage?
03:38People's Party, Noon League and PTI,
03:40their advantage is that they are not militant.
03:42They don't have guns.
03:44They talk about the federation.
03:46They talk about Pakistan.
03:47They have powerhouses in their provinces.
03:49But they are Pakistan's party.
03:51Now, the problem is that,
03:53when you tried to bring down Imran Khan,
03:56and ended PTI.
03:58Now, you have handed over Punjab to religious extremists.
04:01The vacuum that will be created here,
04:03the religious extremists are gunmen.
04:05You have handed over KP and Balochistan to ultra-nationalists.
04:08They are also gunmen.
04:10KP is with the Tariq-e-Insaf.
04:12No.
04:13If it comes out of them, then...
04:14When you will come out,
04:15the alternate that you are creating,
04:16they will be gunmen.
04:18The ones who are in front of you.
04:21But PTI is also,
04:22I don't think it is a gun party.
04:23No.
04:24The TTP there,
04:25174 people were martyred in a month.
04:28And the ones who are now...
04:30But it's not a political force.
04:32It's a militant force.
04:33But ultimately, they will be a political force.
04:34Reason?
04:35Look,
04:36me,
04:37or the people of PTI,
04:39or even the people of PTI in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,
04:42look,
04:43they are not gunmen.
04:44They can't carry guns.
04:46But the problem is that,
04:48when you take people like us out of politics,
04:51then,
04:52it's not that there won't be opposition.
04:54Then your opposition will be like you,
04:56gunmen.
04:57You...
04:58I think the opposition will be those
05:00who can tolerate.
05:01No,
05:02those who can compete.
05:03Compete,
05:04those who can tolerate.
05:05Those who can tolerate.
05:06Then it will be tough.
05:07Because politics,
05:08look,
05:09I am a politician.
05:10If I get space,
05:11I will be able to do politics.
05:12If I don't get it,
05:13I won't be able to do it.
05:14We can't climb mountains.
05:15We can't carry guns.
05:16But when you eliminate us,
05:18then you will have that kind of opposition.
05:20Now,
05:21the problem here is that,
05:23this narrative,
05:24which is being told that,
05:26the economy has improved a lot.
05:28Macroeconomic indicators.
05:30Macroeconomic.
05:31And someone told me,
05:32I was very happy
05:33when someone said that,
05:34inflation has increased by 4%.
05:36So,
05:37I was very happy.
05:38I said,
05:39thank God,
05:40inflation has decreased.
05:41So,
05:42he said,
05:43inflation has not decreased.
05:44It's increasing.
05:45The thing that was increasing
05:46at a rate of 20%,
05:47two years ago,
05:48its price is the same today.
05:49Look,
05:50it will increase by 4% or 4.5%
05:51at this rate.
05:52It will increase.
05:53Inflation will increase at this rate.
05:54That's what it is.
05:55No,
05:56and that too,
05:57since last year.
05:58Because last year,
05:59inflation was very high.
06:00It was at 23%.
06:01So,
06:02he said,
06:03it will be at 4%.
06:04Now,
06:05see,
06:06the issue in Pakistan,
06:07is prevailing that,
06:08in Pakistan,
06:09inflation will increase.
06:10But,
06:11do you think,
06:12looking at this press release,
06:13I understand their position also.
06:15If they have evidence,
06:18this is,
06:19obviously,
06:209th May.
06:21And,
06:22besides that,
06:23they are talking about some Thus,
06:24I am asking again and again.