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00:00Gandhar Sultan Raya has made a decision on this and he can definitely change his decision.
00:06But the problem is that the commission has made a decision and the Supreme Court has gone over it.
00:13Now, there is no doubt that the Election Commission is acting as an extension of the government.
00:19They have not acted as an independent institution yet.
00:23But it will be difficult for them to review their decision and then go to the Supreme Court and then take it back.
00:35So, two things have become clear.
00:37The first thing is that the number is not there yet.
00:40The second thing is that there is a dependence on the Election Commission that if they give deserved seats, then there should be a constitutional amendment.
00:46The third important thing is that if such an amendment comes, then there is already a big controversy that without the completion of the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Assembly,
00:56how can you make a constitutional amendment in the Senate without the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Assembly.
01:03And if this contradiction comes in front of the Supreme Court, then this amendment will be more clear.
01:09I would like to ask a question.
01:13I would like to ask a question.
01:15I would like to ask a question.
01:17I am not able to understand.
01:21Will the decision of 63A be made by accepting the constitutional amendment or by giving reserved seats?
01:29I am not able to understand what is the position of the PTA.
01:32Sometimes they tell the reason for the decision of 63A.
01:36Sometimes they tell the reason for the decision of 63A.
01:40Stay on one thing.
01:42Hassan, the thing is that every step that is changing the number, those steps are being taken by your friends.
01:52So, whether it is a matter of recounting and giving seats to the non-league,
01:58whether it is a matter of reversal of 63A, or whether it is a matter of giving reserved seats against the decision of the Supreme Court,
02:06the aim is one.
02:07And that is that somehow the number should be completed.
02:10The number is not being completed.
02:11It is complete, sir.
02:12It is complete.
02:13It is complete.
02:14Absolutely right.
02:15Mr. Chaudhary, we will include the rest of the people in our panel.
02:17Mr. Haider Naukri, you have the news from the first day.
02:20You are telling that there is not going to be a long-term amendment.
02:22And maybe apart from the Constitutional Court, there was something else in Article 8, 245.
02:29Why is there no amendment?
02:30It is neither coming out of Karachi nor from outside.
02:33If you have any questions, ask Mr. Chaudhary.
02:36Look, if there is no amendment, how will it come out?
02:39Right.
02:40There is no amendment.
02:41There is no existence of amendment.
02:42And there is no existence from the first day.
02:44The thing that I keep saying again and again, which you go ahead a lot,
02:49but what you said in a great intro, the clip of Mr. Mushtaq, who is from JUI,
02:56he said a very good thing.
02:58And now I think it is time for Pakistan to think about this.
03:01The people of Pakistan, who really want to run with the state,
03:08who want to stay away from the politics of protest, the politics of burning houses,
03:12who want to run the system of the parliament,
03:15who want to run the system of the state, they should come forward.
03:18And you should also put Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf together.
03:21Because it is in the parliament.
03:23You cannot deny this existence.
03:24Absolutely right.
03:25Absolutely right.
03:26Your opinion is correct.
03:27If you are present in the parliament, then sit with them and talk to them.
03:29Whatever constitution you want to make, whatever amendments you want to bring,
03:34talk to them, take them with you.
03:36You can run the country in the same way.
03:38You cannot run the country in this way.
03:40Your point is absolutely right.
03:42The way they tried to do it, that was the problem.
03:45Your opinion is correct.
03:46That is what I am trying to say.
03:47You cannot run the country in this way.
03:49You have to take these steps to give strength to a parliamentary system.
03:55Otherwise, you cannot give strength to a parliamentary system.
03:58Then your parliamentary system can never survive.
04:01It cannot hold its place.
04:02So it is very important that Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf also think about this.
04:05I said this yesterday as well.
04:06That Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf should also think about this.
04:08Your opinion is correct.
04:10Mr. Chaudhary Ghulam Sain, you can also ask Mr. Fauji if you have any comment.
04:17Mr. Fauji, to save the democracy and to run these governments,
04:23you should give some money to the PTI yourself.
04:27You are so hesitant.
04:29You have also put the Supreme Court Chief Justice in embarrassment.
04:33You have also put the Election Commission in embarrassment.
04:35Today, you have said that you will not act on the Supreme Court's decision based on the constitution and law.
04:40Why haven't you acted on the decision we have given you?
04:43So, give them some money.
04:45They are very anxious.
04:47Mr. Chaudhary, the thing is that the constitution, as Haider and Hassan have said,
04:54and as Kamran Muttaza has said,
04:56the whole genesis of the constitution is that everything should be in accordance.
05:01This is not a simple constitution.
05:03This means that everything should be in accordance.
05:05But the problem here is that,
05:07even though Haider Naqvi Sahib is saying that there is no constitution,
05:12but the law minister addressed a convention in the Supreme Court.
05:17In that convention, the group of lawyers,
05:20they presented all these points and the constitution in front of him.
05:24So, to say that there is no constitution and no points,
05:28this is contradictory to the speech of the law minister.
05:33In that, three or four things are completely unacceptable.
05:38Any lawyer and any person who is interested in democracy,
05:43the way the principle of separation is being ended,
05:47that you are saying in 199 that you are practically ending the rate petition,
05:54you are saying to the judges of the High Court that we will send them out of the Supreme Court at will,
05:59we will send them home on the source report,
06:01and you are ending the Supreme Court,
06:04you are saying that there will be a constitutional court,
06:06and you are ending the position of the Chief Justice of Pakistan.
06:08See, these things are very complex.
06:11Like, Mr. Goman was giving an example of the 18th amendment,
06:15there was a discussion on it for more than a year.
06:21And if you think that you are changing the whole system of the judiciary
06:25and ending the principle of separation,
06:27then it cannot be done in days.
06:29And especially if you say that the speech of the law minister was not correct
06:34and there is no constitution yet,
06:36and there is no constitution and all the parliaments are restricted.
06:41Now you know, I also know,
06:43that all the MNAs' names are on the passport control list.
06:47No MNA can travel outside Pakistan at this time.
06:51Basically, everything is safe.
06:53Mr. Chaudhary, you are absolutely right.
06:55You must remember that when this attempt was made on the night of 13-14 September,
06:59we remember that the poor MNAs, MPs, sorry, senators,
07:04when they spoke to some people in the parliament,
07:06they were not allowed to go to the bathroom,
07:08that a person should not go back and forth from the bathroom window.
07:11In this way, their poor people were being monitored,
07:13the number game was being tried to complete.
07:16Anyway,
07:17The government does not have the capability,
07:20the capability is with the media.
07:22It is a matter of lack of capability.
07:25It is a matter of lack of capability.
07:27Viewers, let's move on.
07:28Change the capability.
07:30Change the capability.
07:32If you want to go to that page, you should know that
07:35we do not take the name of any capability.
07:38We are sitting to hear the name.
07:40Viewers, the real matter started
07:42that will the current Chief Justice take his extension.
07:47The matter of 3 years,
07:49that the tenure of the Chief Justice should be made,
07:52his position is decided.
07:55After that, you know, the debates started
07:58that the age will be increased from 65 to 68.
08:02Then it was that no,
08:04whenever the Chief Justice will be appointed,
08:06it will be for 3 years.
08:08These were all the matters.
08:09Then the Constitutional Court,
08:11the judge who will be appointed there,
08:13he can be a retired judge,
08:15his age can be like this.
08:17On this, what Rana Sanawala is saying about Qazi Faizal,
08:21and what Qazi Faizal has said about this in the past,
08:25all the facts will be presented to you.