Madaris Registration Issue - Complete Details in Waseem Badami's Report

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00:00I had another issue with Muneer, and this time, the government of Moulana Fadlur Rehman Sahib,

00:09whose role in the 26th amendment was the most radical, is apparently angry with the government.

00:17And he is so angry that he says, we will come to Islamabad, and if we come to Islamabad,

00:22then we will come in such a way that you will forget everything.

00:25What is this matter? It is a matter related to legislation.

00:29It is a matter related to a bill, which is called the Madaris Registration Bill.

00:33We will discuss the details of this later in the program.

00:39But a few days ago, when we took Kamran Murtaza Sahib, the senior leader of Moulana Fadlur Rehman Sahib's Jamaat,

00:43to our program, we were confused. Why is he so angry? Is something cooking?

00:48We were confused that something is going wrong.

00:50Kamran Murtaza Sahib said in open words that the 26th amendment, which would not have been complete without Moulana Fadlur Rehman Sahib,

00:55because it was a game of numbers, Kamran Murtaza Sahib said that we were lied to, we were deceived,

01:01we were cheated and ditched according to a well-organized plan.

01:04What did Kamran Murtaza Sahib say? Let's see this first.

01:06Moulana Sahib has repeatedly repeated in his speeches that we can also come to Islamabad,

01:11we can also come to Islamabad, if J.U.A. comes, then why will it come?

01:14Or has he just said it in a fit of anger?

01:18The government has deceived us.

01:20The things that were attached to the 26th amendment practice,

01:26after that, they started delaying everything.

01:30We are feeling it and it is all cooking.

01:35Whatever they did to us, they planned it and lied to us, they deceived us.

01:40A bill was passed from both the houses and Bilawal Sareh participated in the matter.

01:47This is how he was complaining in these words.

01:52After that, there was a bit of confusion,

01:55because there was a bill about which the government gave a commitment to Moulana Sahib

02:00that there is a matter of life and death in the 26th amendment, you support us.

02:04Moulana Sahib said that you will support us in this one bill.

02:07He said that it is absolutely fine, we will give it.

02:10You said that there was a meeting at 5 in the morning,

02:13the historic meeting of the 26th amendment.

02:15Some other bills were also approved, this was one of them.

02:18This bill was passed by the National Assembly, this bill was passed by the Senate,

02:21because Moulana Sahib had promised that if you support the 26th amendment, we will do this.

02:24After that, there was a legal requirement that the President of the country sign it.

02:28He did not do it.

02:29Not only did he not do it, but he objected and sent it back.

02:32So now when the President of the country,

02:34he is the President of the country, but he also has a parliamentary relationship with the WPBJ party.

02:38When this happened, questions arose about the character of the President of the country.

02:41Bilawal Bhutto went to Moulana Sahib's house.

02:44What did Bilawal Sahib say?

02:45Did he own it or not?

02:47Absolutely owned.

02:48He said that this bill is not yours, this bill is ours, don't worry, it is our bill.

02:52You see what Kamran Bhutto Sahib is saying.

02:54What does Bilawal Sahib say?

02:56What is the reason for signing a signature?

02:57Something that had already been decided.

02:59He said that we have voted for it, we have decided with you.

03:02Now this bill is not yours, this bill is ours too.

03:06If he is owning it so much, then he should have signed it.

03:10So this is what Bilawal Sahib is saying.

03:12Now, Rana Sanaullah Sahib of Muslim League Noon himself,

03:16three days ago on television, said the same thing that Bilawal Sahib said.

03:20That we are owning it.

03:22That we had given a commitment to this bill.

03:24And we should support Moulana Sahib on this.

03:26If Moulana Sahib is angry, then he is really angry.

03:28What did Rana Sahib say?

03:29Look, the matter is that when the 26th amendment took place,

03:33when the 26th amendment took place,

03:35it was decided that this legislation,

03:38which is now stuck,

03:41that this legislation will also be there.

03:44And when the 26th amendment was voted on,

03:46then this was also voted on.

03:49So I understand that Moulana Fazlur Rehman Sahib's complaint,

03:54or his anger is justified to this extent,

03:57that when he was promised this,

04:00after that he voted in the 26th amendment.

04:03Is he ruling against the promise, or is he publicising it?

04:05And he also gave it in the National Assembly.

04:08This is our commitment to him.

04:10This is a promise to him.

04:12So the promise should be fulfilled.

04:14Now, this is a strange and strange matter.

04:16You saw the position of the government.

04:17You saw the position of Bilawal Sahib.

04:19What happened today?

04:20A strange thing happened today.

04:21Today there was a conference of Ulema-e-Karam.

04:23They have their own variety.

04:24Ulema-e-Karam can have their own opinion.

04:26In that conference, the Minister of Religious Affairs was also present.

04:31That is, the entire government was present.

04:33In that conference, the Minister of Diplomacy was present,

04:35the official spokesperson of the government of Pakistan.

04:37And in that conference, Ulema-e-Karam said that

04:40this bill, in whatever words,

04:42Ulema-e-Karam said that the bill which Moulana Sahib is talking about,

04:45should not be accepted at all.

04:47And the current law-enforcing Ulema should be the same.

04:49The brief story is that Moulana Sahib says,

04:51and we will discuss its details later,

04:53Moulana Sahib says that Madaris should be registered under a new system,

04:56that is, under the Ministry of Education,

05:00or Madaris should be registered under the Ministry of Industry.

05:03So now the issue is that the Ministry of Education,

05:05is registered in the Ministry of Industry.

05:07And the government wants it to be registered in the Ministry of Education.

05:10So today there was a press conference.

05:12Ulema-e-Karam were present.

05:13They said that the government should not be pressurized at all.

05:15And the government should be based on the current system.

05:20Tahir Ashrafi Sahib is a famous name.

05:22He represents Madaris-e-Arabia.

05:24Wazir Sahib was present.

05:26And Tahir Ashrafi Sahib was saying this without taking Moulana Sahib's name.

05:52Tahir Ashrafi Sahib was saying this without taking Moulana Sahib's name.

05:54Tahir Ashrafi Sahib was saying this without taking Moulana Sahib's name.

05:56So he says that it should be kept under the Ministry of Education.

05:58I think I said the opposite, that it should be kept under the Ministry of Education.

06:00Because in 2019, when Khan Sahib was in government,

06:02then it happened that there are Madaris, syllabus,

06:04and issues related to education.

06:06So it should be under the Ministry of Education.

06:08So he says that you keep it here.

06:10Moulana Sahib says that no, this matter should be changed.

06:12So you heard what Tahir Ashrafi Sahib is saying.

06:14In fact, he also said that

06:16he gave a reference that it was decided in 2019

06:18that this Madaris register will be under the Ministry of Education.

06:21Now you are talking about a new one after four years.

06:23Then you will talk about a new one after the next four years.

06:25Again, without taking Moulana Sahib's name,

06:27Tahir Ashrafi Sahib said this.

06:29You said in 2019 that this is the law.

06:32We have accepted the agreement of 2019.

06:34Today you say that we do not accept this.

06:36Bring a new law.

06:38Four years later you will say, bring a new law.

06:40This will become a game.

06:44Next thing, Tahir Ashrafi Sahib was more strict.

06:46Again, without taking Moulana Sahib's name.

06:48But you know, Moulana Sahib has said that

06:50we will come to Islamabad on this.

06:52Tahir Ashrafi Sahib said that if you bring 10,000 people,

06:54then the people sitting here will bring 30,000 people.

06:56Tahir Ashrafi Sahib said that you do politics.

06:58Madrasa, we have no connection with politics,

07:02but you do not bring politics.

07:04You listen to what Tahir Ashrafi Sahib said

07:06in the presence of the government minister.

07:08Without taking Moulana Sahib's name, see what he said.

07:11We do not want to do politics from the platform of Madrasa.

07:13We have a separate platform for politics.

07:16It is possible that in the field of politics,

07:18someone has individual power.

07:20But in the field of Madrasa,

07:22individual power is available to us in hundreds of thousands.

07:26So I think the people sitting here,

07:28their Madrasas in Islamabad are enough

07:30that they will bring 25,000-30,000 people.

07:33We want to keep education as education.

07:35We want to see politics in the field of politics.

07:39Almost the same, a little different opinion passed through my eyes,

07:43which Allama Syed Jawad Naqvi Sahib gave,

07:45who said, in whatever words,

07:49that if the government has decided something,

07:51then why did it decide?

07:53Or should we talk to Moulana and resolve the matter?

07:55Otherwise, the opinion was completely different in that forum.

07:57Jawad Naqvi Sahib said this.

07:59When the law has been made that Madrasas will be registered in the Ministry of Education,

08:03this has been made by the government,

08:05then why has this bill been passed,

08:07which Moulana Sahib has presented?

08:09What was the need to present this bill?

08:12The atmosphere that is being created now,

08:14we do not accept this.

08:16Moulana also did not come in emotions.

08:18If a temporary political need has arisen,

08:20then you have created a big crisis.

08:22It is not the duty of the DGRE to end Moulana Sahib's protest.

08:25It is the job of the government to resolve this issue.

08:28The solution to the problem is to negotiate with Moulana Sahib.

08:32As the matter went on,

08:34Moulana Kareem Sahib, Ufti Kareem Sahib,

08:36who was sitting here,

08:38he took Moulana Sahib's name and addressed Moulana Sahib.

08:41And he said this.

08:42I think this is the first time that the government is not blackmailing Moulana.

08:47And we should stand with them.

08:49Moulana Fazl-ur-Rehman Sahib is not a representative of Madrasas.

08:52He is a political representative.

08:54Itahaat Tanjimat-e-Madars-e-Diniyan,

08:56Moulana Taqi Usmani, Mufti Muneeb-ur-Rehman,

08:58someone has said that he is our representative.

09:00Where is he?

09:01He is not a representative of Madrasas.

09:03So, I think that Moulana Fazl-ur-Rehman Sahib has insulted.

09:06He should apologize.

09:09Now, this is the situation.

09:10Sir, we will talk about this later.

09:11But let me start the discussion from here.

09:13The senior leader of Moulana Sahib's party,

09:15Mr. Rashid Sumro, is with us.

09:17He is the Secretary General of J.U.I.F. Sindh.

09:20Thank you very much for your time.

09:22Mr. Mufti Kareem Sahib is with us.

09:24He is the Chairman of Wifaq-ul-Badair-e-Islam-ul-Rizviya of Pakistan.

09:27Thank you very much.

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