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00:00You texted me earlier today and you said the Warriors are in big trouble big trouble. Go ahead and cook
00:06They're in big trouble. You've got your star who's gonna be 37 here and I think three months. I think he's a March birthday
00:13He's 37 and he's got knee tendinitis
00:18Both knees and when you have knee tendinitis that doesn't just go away. You can do cortisone. You can do treatment
00:24You can do whatever you want to do for the knee tendinitis
00:27But that's not something that goes away like a sprained ankle gets better and a broken bone gets better
00:33He's got bad knees now. He's got knee tendinitis at 36
00:38This is gonna be a load management thing all year long Draymond Green's got a calf strain and we don't know
00:44Exactly how bad it is how much time he's going to miss and then you look at the rest of the roster
00:50Andrew Wiggins is
00:52He's having a good year. He's been great
00:55Jonathan Kaminga does not fit and
00:58Brendan Podjemski, he's overrated if you want to like talk about what everybody
01:04Talks about with pods. Oh, he could do everything. He can fill out the box score
01:08He can't shoot and he is a 21 year old player. Who's not yet a real
01:14Rotational piece. So what else do you have on this team besides Draymond and Steph? You've got a bunch of role players
01:20This team's in trouble if Steph Curry can't play 75 games you're in a world of hurt
01:26Did you feel this way before they lost five in a row? I starting to feel that way
01:30Yeah, because when they were 12 and 3 you felt like I didn't hear any of this from you
01:34You could feel it
01:35You can start to see it and when you lose Melton and you start to look at a 13 man rotation and you look at you
01:41Know Kaminga who I like Jonathan Kaminga, but I don't think that he necessarily fits buddy
01:45Heal has come back to earth even through the winning. He's been a guy who was you know, really come back down
01:52Brendan Podjemski, I don't know if it's a sophomore slump, but he's not been great
01:57Certainly scoring the basketball and when you really look at the other teams in the Western Conference
02:02There's a lot of teams that are better than the Golden State Warriors
02:04So yeah, I'm not saying that they're gonna be a 13 seed and they're bound for the lottery
02:09But the whole idea about Oh 10 and 2 championship or bust. I think that that's fool's gold
02:14I tell people how you ended that text when you said the Warriors are in real trouble
02:20Maybe we should start thinking about selling at the deadline for the future instead of buying for now
02:25Well when you get there, do you believe that when you get to February if you are
02:3028 and 34 or whatever the number of games will be at that point probably not that many games
02:35But when you get to that spot, are you really gonna look to load up?
02:39Okay, we're gonna look to sell the future to bring in that one guy to put us over the hump
02:44Why you gotta wait till February you don't all right. So why can't this team like why can't they do something soon?
02:50To change their fortunes like what make a trade, right?
02:54The same thing everyone's been saying that their roster is built to do for the last six months
02:58Do you not buy this Steve Kerr told me and Grandy this yesterday. Do you buy this? We are a really good team
03:04We're fourth in the league in defense
03:06We have not made shots during this stretch, which is seen on the modern NBA often just
03:13The difference between winning and losing who's making threes and who's not and
03:18Right now we're not making threes and and I think in the midst of that we lost a little confidence. We lost a little
03:25defensive edge and
03:27So I think that you know while we're on in the midst of this streak
03:30I still see a really good team with great chemistry great energy guys care about each other and work hard
03:37And I'm confident that we can stay relatively healthy
03:41but you know what you've seen through 20 games is it's who we are which is a 51 team and
03:47You just you know, it's never perfectly linear how you get there
03:51You're gonna have some good stretches and some bad stretches and we've obviously had both
03:56But I really like this team and I think we're gonna be really good. You don't buy it. I don't buy all of it
04:01No, what don't you buy? Well, I'm what do you buy?
04:03Well, I buy that they can be a good defensive team
04:06but I don't buy that they are a team that can really go out there and make shots at a high level because I look
04:13At the roster and I think about who can really make shots. Well staff, of course
04:17He's one of the greatest shot makers in the history of the game and buddy healed
04:20He's very streaky as we've now seen through 20 20 games. He can get hot
04:24He can be really really cold who else on this team can quote make shots
04:30You've got a bunch of players who are Andrew is making shots this year. He's doing great. He's making shots
04:35He's making shots and then you know, they have other people that like when you they're allowed to make shots
04:40You use your line, but I don't believe in this team in terms of them being a good offensive team
04:46I mean Draymond Green is making outside shots this year
04:49Lindy Waters make shots GP 2 is a corner 3 shot maker
04:53I mean now we're getting into the reach Moses Moody can make sure we are. Yeah, we're starting to reach
05:00I mean they can make shots like two shots. Are you looking at a guy who's gonna get you 15 or 18?
05:06I mean, that's why I don't have that dibs are 12 and a they were 10 and 2. Yes
05:12Teams they haven't done great against the good team in Boston. They beat Dallas
05:16They beat Oklahoma City, right and then you've gone out and you've lost a lot of games. They beat the Houston Rockets
05:23in their building Houston now looks to be better than you and
05:27Memphis and they beat them. Like you said, what have they done against the good teams?
05:31I'd argue that in the first three weeks of the season. They had more wins against the first three weeks of the sea
05:36Yeah, they're in a bad streak
05:38Well, you're in a bad streak, but you're dealing with an injured roster and Steph Curry is so why can't they get better?
05:43They can get better
05:44but you're talking about an almost 37 year old star who's got knee tendinitis and I don't like
05:50The forecast for what that means for his season. I don't think that he's gonna play 70 games and if he plays
05:5660 games and Draymond's got a calf strain and now both of them are not gonna be able to play tonight and you're gonna be
06:03Relying on cominga and Wiggins and in pods and the rest. I just don't look at this roster as
06:09Being that formidable and yet do you start was great?
06:13Do you remember something quirky about that win that they had in Houston? Do you remember it?
06:18No, you know something quirky
06:20Yeah, like something that might be relevant for what they're about to do next when they play them tonight
06:26Steph Curry didn't play in that game either. Okay, that was in their building and they built up a 31 point lead
06:30I guess here's my point. Here's my point
06:33What you're saying to me at this point in the season feels defeatist
06:38Like I don't I it's a reality
06:41Walton it's not a reality yet. You're it's from my viewpoint of it
06:44Yeah, that can be your viewpoint, but it is a projection
06:48You're saying I don't like where this is going with Steph Curry, but but we don't know of course
06:53Steve told us yesterday Draymond green. He actually sort of flippantly was like, I don't think this is a long-term issue
06:58I don't think it's a big deal
06:59And if he says that publicly I'm gonna I'm gonna believe him because he has no reason to say that right now
07:05I I can't refute the idea that these guys are getting up there and they're in their mid-30s. I just think that that's a
07:14Just from my perspective. That's a little bit of an overreaction
07:19To a five-game losing streak this early in the season just sort of like switch immediately to
07:26You know, there's no real path for the Warriors and you're breaking down their roster and and even if I bought it
07:33Who says that the roster might change?
07:36We've been talking about it all year, right?
07:38All I'm saying is like I the idea of not being about now has not even crossed my mind yet
07:46I am completely still about now with the Golden State Warriors. Well, of course
07:51I'm just talking about as you get closer to the deadline and as you find yourself being in that middle ground where you don't necessarily
07:59Have a clear path toward getting a player to put you over the top
08:03And I don't think that this roster even if you took three or four guys and you traded him for whoever you want to trade
08:09For I still don't think that that gets you over the top to where you can be a real factor in the Western Conference
08:15I think you're kind of stuck you're stuck with
08:17Steph Curry who's having and you can just say it. I'll say it if you won't say it. He's not having a good year
08:23He's having a down year scoring the basketball
08:26He's averaging twenty two point six and on this team. He needs to average about twenty eight or twenty nine
08:32He's not that player right now, and maybe he's not that player anymore. Well, you watch the end of these games
08:37That's based on Curry's unable to that's based on minutes
08:41Whatever the whatever the minutes are percentages down to the end of shooting 42% Steph Curry's unable to get open and do the things that he
08:49Used to do but I mean in the end of game
08:50Why can't they score in the end of the basketball? I actually argue that he's doing exactly what he's always done
08:56But and in fact the Warriors went out and signed Kevin Durant for this very very reason like Steph Curry is a small star
09:05So he's not Nicola Jokic it is harder for Steph to get an open look
09:10Then it is for Nicola Jokic and when the Warriors have won even most recently in
09:162022 what were they able to do down the stretch? Yes, Steph was fantastic
09:21But they had to use what the Warriors always use which is there to use ball movement. They had to use strength in numbers
09:27They had to have other people step up and there are other people right now are
09:30Are down there are other people right now are down
09:33But I don't think that that means that they're gonna be down for the rest of the year
09:37Some of the guys that we were so excited about two weeks ago
09:40It now sounds to me like you you feel like they they don't even have the ability to find
09:47Themselves again, why can't find them? Why can't he'll get hot again?
09:50Why can't you sure can but if you look at buddy healed in the back of his basketball card?
09:55This is kind of the player. He's always been like really hot and then really cold
09:59He's not a guy who's been consistently great, which is why he's been on five or six different team
10:04Oh, let's hang out till he gets hot again. Maybe they'll win five in a row. Sure
10:08You know what? I mean? Like I possible and how about this like you?
10:11okay, the concept and I know you're saying not right now, but the concept even in February of
10:19Selling rather than buying. Well, what do you mean by that? I mean, are you suggesting trade Steph Curry? No, of course not
10:26What does that mean well, it means maybe position yourself to get draft picks for the future and
10:32No, not tank
10:33but you know
10:34Maybe you sell one of your veteran pieces or maybe you you make a trade to bring in a draft pick or a younger player
10:40Somebody who's gonna help you everyone wants to talk about, you know, make it a trade for a big boy like Brandon Ingram
10:46Let's bring in Brandon Ingram and hope that that sticks or you know
10:50Everybody wanted Laurie marketing in the offseason as did I and everybody wants Paul George and you want to go out there and get?
10:56Giannis and all the rest of it
10:58It might be more sensible to make a smaller move a more incremental move to make you better in the post-staff era
11:06Post-staff era sure, you know, you build this thing going forward
11:11Yes, I'm struggling to even see what a deal like like give me a name who would be on the way out the door
11:17Who's that trade like GP to or somebody who's expiring and you know somebody
11:23Maybe a second-round pick or maybe you trade Andrew Wiggins or you trade somebody there
11:28You know somebody who has value Andrew Wiggins having a great year
11:31Yeah, so and he's got you know, two more years and a player option on there
11:34I I'm just I'll be real is fascinating to me that your mind after a five-game losing streak went that broad
11:41Like I understand the concepts of what you're saying
11:44I understand the the fear around the the the health of Steph and Dre
11:49Certainly, we understand the lack of a consistent number to score
11:54I do not buy at all that Steph Curry's having a bad year
11:57His numbers don't suggest that him averaging 22 a night has much more to do
12:02With him playing in smaller spurts in fewer minutes and the way that they're managing that injury than it does anything else
12:08His percentages are fine
12:10percentages percentages don't matter to me when you look at the end of the game and
12:14You look at the end of these games and he's not able to get open like he used to he's not able to score like
12:19He used to and we've got no other option on the floor and this team
12:23There's a reason why they're blowing all these fourth quarter leads
12:26It's because Steph Curry's more guardable than ever and he has no help out there offensively
12:31I think you're forgetting some of the games like I mean when when they were going good
12:36Was because of what he was doing in the final five minutes of games
12:39What he did against Dallas is one of the most special things I've ever seen him do in a regular season
12:44Yeah, we were there for that. Yeah, like I mean and Oklahoma City when they won that game
12:49I'll grant you that he hasn't been able to turn that on
12:53Immediately in these last five games again. I just to me this feels like a very very broad reaction
12:59To a five-game losing streak. I am in no way off of this year
13:04I am in no way off of Steph and even if that sounds myopic or overly optimistic
13:10I don't even I like I don't even know what the other option would be right now
13:15You know what? I mean? Like you you you still have you got
13:20you've got a lot of pieces on this team and
13:23There there are trade winds blowing and they don't have to wait to February to do that
13:28I I think that that what you're saying to me just kind of lacks
13:34Fight like the Warriors if they got a fight right now, of course
13:38You're in two games last you're in a lot. You're in a losing streak. I think that you're over
13:43estimating and you're over
13:45Analyzing what these pieces are on this roster and I think if you look at at this roster
13:51From a distance and you look at all the players that they have on this roster
13:55There aren't a lot of guys on this roster that many of the teams would actually want
13:59I don't agree with that and I also think the roster might change
14:02So I like I am completely still in on this year