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00:00The government keeps on saying that there are firewalls all over the world and they are in varying degrees.
00:10So if these things have come to Pakistan, what kind of apocalypse is this?
00:13Let me tell you that there are filters everywhere in the name of security.
00:18There is no problem.
00:19You are an activist. When you talk to the people of the government,
00:23how do you justify the way everything is happening?
00:27You must be giving some answers.
00:30What can we say?
00:33We read what is in the mainstream.
00:36They don't believe in dialoguing with anyone.
00:39And secondly, they say contradictory things.
00:41They talk about national security.
00:43There is no problem with national security.
00:45It is a matter of creating obstacles.
00:47They just want us to listen to them.
00:49If they don't listen to us, we will shut you down.
00:51If you want to become a Chinese or a North Korean,
00:55you will see that these are the kinds of firewalls that are not for cyber security.
00:58These are for information control and monitoring.
01:01Where are they?
01:03They were giving us examples of the UK and the US.
01:06I have fact-checked all these things.
01:08I am working with law clinics at the moment.
01:10To see where this happens.
01:12These are completely false things.
01:14We are given false references.
01:16There are also notice and take-down systems in other places.
01:19Court orders are also necessary there.
01:21There are due diligence systems.
01:23There are private platforms.
01:25The state does not do it.
01:27Where the state is doing it, as I told you,
01:29like North Korea and China.
01:31You are on paper democracy.
01:33In reality, we are not a democracy.
01:35You have given the executive the right to complete capture.
01:38Now look at this.
01:40What MS Farah said in the mosque,
01:42that those who capture their city and destroy it,
01:44this is the same government.
01:46This is the same reality on the internet.
01:48You think you have achieved it by shutting it down.
01:51This is the same with national security.
01:53Where are the citizens being protected?
01:55What stops you from shutting it down?
01:57Except that you create obstacles.
01:59These references do not exist in a rule-of-law regime.
02:02This is not a rule-of-law regime here.
02:04And it is not sustainable here.
02:06That it should continue.
02:08Neither for the economy.
02:10They do not care about rights anyway.
02:12Now you see, authority comes to authority.
02:14They are presented with evidence.
02:16It is very important to check their facts.
02:18Because they rely on lies.
02:20Whatever they present to you,
02:22is based on lies.
02:24It is rhetoric.
02:26There is nothing solid in it.
02:28Osama, tell me.
02:30Let's take X for example.
02:32All platforms used to use X.
02:34I understand that if I have tweeted something like this.
02:38Now I don't know what we call the Twitter of X.
02:42I don't know.
02:44Post.
02:46I have posted something like this.
02:48Let them put defamation on me.
02:50Let them arrest me.
02:52Is there any reason to close X?
02:54Is there any logical explanation?
02:56Because the Prime Minister is using it.
02:58The Prime Minister is using it.
03:00The ministers are using it.
03:02The big government officials are using it.
03:04And it seems like they are making fun of us.
03:06We can use it.
03:08You can't.
03:10Tell me from the perspective of national security.
03:12Because I really want that national security should be protected.
03:16And if it is protected,
03:18then tell us if it is wrong or right.
03:20Look, Mr. Mustafa asked a very good question.
03:22What is the definition of national security?
03:24And who defines it?
03:26But we have seen in the past
03:28that the definition keeps changing.
03:30So, the new internal enemies
03:32that have been formed
03:34are internet savvy.
03:36They use X.
03:38When the evidence came on X,
03:40the X was closed on 17th February.
03:42And we see that
03:44the periphery regions
03:46like Balochistan, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
03:48and other areas
03:50make their voices heard.
03:52Okay, I understand X.
03:54I understand X.
03:56Why is it being closed?
03:58What is the point of slowing the internet?
04:00Is it unavoidable
04:02when they put their control
04:04on firewalls and VPNs?
04:06Is it because of that?
04:08What is the point of slowing the internet?
04:10Look, we have noticed
04:12that whenever there is a call
04:14for a protest,
04:16the internet slows down a lot.
04:18On that day,
04:20you cannot send your voice notes,
04:22videos or pictures.
04:24And on the same day,
04:26YouTube, Instagram, TikTok
04:28slows down a lot.
04:30So, we do not have transparency.
04:32So, it has nothing to do with
04:34the web management system
04:36that is being upgraded.
04:38It has nothing to do with
04:40the fact that the firewall is installed
04:42but the bugs are being removed.
04:44So, it is not smooth in China.
04:46So, these are not technical issues.
04:48These are all excuses.
04:50So, technically, there is no reason
04:52for the internet to slow down.
04:54These are all political decisions.
04:56Absolutely.
04:58And I think a deliberate effort
05:00is being made to slow the internet
05:02so that people do not use it effectively.
05:04That's it.