" Agar 27 Win Tarmeem Ke Nateejay Mein Military Courts Bani To Qoum Hamein Maaf Nahi Kere Gi "
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00:00I wanted to share two facts with you.
00:05As Bilal was saying, there was no draft.
00:10There were relevant functionaries of the Law Ministry.
00:14They shared a secret.
00:16They said that when all this was going on,
00:18we had nine drafts.
00:21Nine.
00:22And if this didn't happen, we would do this.
00:24If this didn't happen, we would do this.
00:25If this didn't happen, we would do this.
00:26And if such a detailed discussion had taken place,
00:29do you remember that the Law Ministry gave a clarification?
00:33That if judges were to be appointed,
00:36what would be the seniority of the Constitutional Benches?
00:39So things were happening at great speed.
00:42And more than lawmaking,
00:44it was a game of power.
00:48Do you think it is enough
00:50that there is no public discourse in the Constitutional Amendments
00:54and just four leaders sit down and decide
00:57and forcefully stamp their party?
00:59Then the concept of Parliamentary debate would be over.
01:03When you people agreed to everything last night,
01:06after that, the Constitutional Amendments were passed in hours.
01:09This doesn't happen in the world.
01:11You said that we are not bound.
01:12But there are some traditions in the world.
01:14This doesn't happen, Mr. Kaira.
01:16Look, Malak.
01:17Let me first request my younger brother, Mr. Jagra
01:22that he started giving a good example
01:25that in our country, there is also an example
01:28that in your government,
01:29there were 29 or 30 laws.
01:31How many were there, Malak?
01:32You may remember more.
01:33The ones on the last day.
01:34The ones that were passed in a few minutes.
01:36Yes, there were a few dozen.
01:37There were a lot.
01:38Dozens.
01:39And they were passed in a few minutes.
01:41So, while taunting us,
01:43let's first think about what you have done.
01:45So, on the other hand,
01:46let's leave this aside.
01:47Let me make a little comparison with my brother.
01:49Do you remember, Mr. Kaira,
01:51in Mr. Bilal's party,
01:52Mr. Kaira, the amendment was passed in 11 minutes.
01:55Three readings were done in 11 minutes.
01:57The past is very strange.
01:58Leave it.
01:59I am just talking to the relevant people.
02:01Mr. Jagra,
02:02because he lives in Varas,
02:03so I told him to tell you.
02:05I kept cutting a little.
02:07The second request is that
02:08what you are saying, Mr. Malik,
02:10is absolutely correct.
02:12My view is that
02:14the media will get a news
02:16when it becomes a news.
02:18Or it will continue to be a news.
02:20Now, we didn't have any special news at that time
02:23because there were different communities.
02:25Not a single community had a majority.
02:27You can vote with your own will.
02:29Mr. Muslim, if you want,
02:31you will have to vote for the People's Party.
02:33If the People's Party wants,
02:34you will have to vote for the MKM.
02:36If they vote,
02:37we will not be able to move forward without the Maulana's vote.
02:39So, in such a situation,
02:40you are taking all your allies
02:42with you.
02:44And at different levels,
02:45different people are giving their opinions
02:47that this thing is not acceptable to us in this way.
02:49Some of their own flags are also coming.
02:51For example, the MKM was saying
02:53that Mr. Malik,
02:54include him in the elections of local bodies as well.
02:56I am personally in favor of this.
02:57Yes, it should be there.
02:58That he should also be made mandatory
03:00in the constitution.
03:01But such drafts were going on.
03:03These amendments were going on.
03:05You will remember that
03:06our 18th convention was held in a closed room.
03:11And you were also looking for it.
03:13I was not aware of the information
03:15that was available at that time.
03:16The rest of our friends,
03:17who put their fingers up,
03:18whose job it is to collect secret news,
03:20were also looking for what was happening.
03:22And no one was understanding
03:24what draft was being discussed.
03:26They were on oath and were not telling.
03:28And you are a very far-sighted
03:30ally with us.
03:32But you were also not getting all the news.
03:34Why?
03:35We tried this time as well.
03:36Why?
03:37The question is right
03:38that it should be in public discourse.
03:40There should be an open debate.
03:41But in a society like ours,
03:43this is not the case even in Britain
03:45where there were open debates for 6 months.
03:47There were debates in a closed room
03:49for 9 months.
03:50And only a few people sat down and debated.
03:52The nominees of the Jamaat did it.
03:54And after that,
03:55it was passed in one go.
03:56Here, the leadership of the Jamaat
03:58has given their opinion on it
04:00on the assembly floor.
04:02If there was PTI,
04:03the debate would have been better.
04:05It is the opposition
04:06that always generates debate.
04:07So let us talk.
04:08From the government's side,
04:10if they say that
04:11what our Jamaat said
04:12was asked by the parliamentary party,
04:14then we will agree.
04:15It is not a good way.
04:17But the level at which
04:18your democracy is at,
04:19the level at which
04:20our institutional arrangement is at,
04:22you will go with that.
04:23You are not sitting
04:24in an exemplary democracy.
04:26We will decide
04:27based on the objective conditions.
04:29If these debates are in our view,
04:31when all the doors will open,
04:33then there will be such
04:35lines of debate
04:37that the facts will remain on one side.
04:39And the debate based on lies
04:41and assumptions
04:44will lead to such things
04:46that the mood of the public
04:47will change.
04:48We have not seen this
04:49in our politics.
04:50Therefore, in such circumstances,
04:52the Jamaat does its own
04:53discussion in closed rooms.
04:55The people of the party
04:56were not just two people
04:57discussing.
04:58Mr. Bilawal and Mr. Naveed Kamar
04:59were not there.
05:00There were others with us.
05:02Sir, tell me,
05:03the biggest issue of the 27th
05:05is that maybe
05:07it is being brought for the military courts.
05:10Will you support the military courts?
05:12Sir,
05:13this is a simple request.
05:15In the past,
05:16there was only one request.
05:17Whatever we did,
05:18according to the circumstances,
05:20when the news came to you,
05:22there was a debate on it.
05:23It will continue.
05:24There will be more.
05:25Mistakes will also be pointed out.
05:26The civil society will also do it.
05:27The lawyers will also do it.
05:28The challenge will also be done.
05:29All these processes
05:30keep happening.
05:31Now the second thing,
05:32as far as this issue is concerned,
05:34this doubt.
05:35Mr. Taimoor,
05:36tell me this.
05:37It is a small issue.
05:38Sir.
05:39As far as this doubt is concerned,
05:40the 27th amendment
05:41will be brought
05:42by the military courts.
05:43We are saying
05:44that it will not happen.
05:45We are standing on this point
05:46that we will not amend
05:47this article.
05:48Now,
05:49on this point,
05:50with great difficulty,
05:51we have passed
05:52our amendment
05:53with the permission
05:54of one vote.
05:55If this happens,
05:56will you forgive us?
05:57Will you forgive us
05:58in the rest of the media?
05:59Don't we have to go
06:00in front of people?
06:01Don't we have
06:02our character
06:03in front of you?
06:04Have we
06:05rubber-stamped
06:06the 56th amendment?
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